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Draco Mortis Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:50:00 - [1081] They say Iceland Bankrupted. So maybe CCP living bad days too. They need mooneeeyyy.
Balrokenx Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:50:00 - [1082] Another stupid decision made by CCP.
Cosy Ceaon Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:51:00 - [1083] Subscription Status:Active Expires:17.10.2008 20:30:53 no renew bye bye mofo is a bug is a bug a buuuuuuuuuuuuug
Flinchey	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:51:00 - [1084] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Gregorius Decimus Calling that ex-feature "a bug" is the most craziest thing, that I've ever heard in EvE... You've deployed that feature form the begining.. Not exactly true. As pointed out previously in this very thread this "feature" was discovered, not intended. Yes it has remained unaddressed for a long time but that doesn't make it any less of an accident. are you stupid? its IN THE SKILL TRAINING GUIDE ON THIS VERY WEBSITE linked toover and over.
Jogvan coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:51:00 - [1085] Cant be arsed to write a tl;dr post. This change sucks and with the reactions you see from the players you will probably end up getting less money to pay your salaries, server upgrades etc.
Carsidava Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:53:00 - [1086] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Gregorius Decimus Calling that ex-feature "a bug" is the most craziest thing, that I've ever heard in EvE... You've deployed that feature form the begining.. Not exactly true. As pointed out previously in this very thread this "feature" was discovered, not intended. Yes it has remained unaddressed for a long time but that doesn't make it any less of an accident. I'm curious, before today's devblog, where was it stated that ghost training was a bug?
Elisa Day Shade.	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:53:00 - [1087] What the hell is wrong with you people? Complaining about not being able to play the game while not paying? THE HORROR. I always considered dark training a bit iffy, personally, and I definitely will NOT be canceling any accounts I wasn't paying for in the first place! I proudly support CCP 100% in this course of action! There does need to be a RL e-mail reminder when your GTC time is about to expire, though.
dan drorgar Minmatar Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:53:00 - [1088] Originally by: Jogvan Cant be arsed to write a tl;dr post. This change sucks and with the reactions you see from the players you will probably end up getting less money to pay your salaries, server upgrades etc. This just in: It's their latest idea to fix the lag, internal project name is PlayerlessMMO ...
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:54:00 - [1089] Originally by: Triksterism C'mon Cat, be real. If they really thought bad of this from day 1, then they would not or at least should not have promoted it as a feature. Plain 'ol bullshit tbh. I don't think they thought this was bad from day 1, or at least not bad enough to worry about. (Of course, I also don't ever remember seeing them promote it as a feature.) What I think is that it was an accident, didn't really seem to present much of a problem, and so they let it slide. Now that it it starting to be a pain in the butt (or once somebody noticed just how much it's being exploited) they are fixing it.
Cosy Ceaon Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:55:00 - [1090] Originally by: Flinchey Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Gregorius Decimus Calling that ex-feature "a bug" is the most craziest thing, that I've ever heard in EvE... You've deployed that feature form the begining.. Not exactly true. As pointed out previously in this very thread this "feature" was discovered, not intended. Yes it has remained unaddressed for a long time but that doesn't make it any less of an accident. are you stupid? its IN THE SKILL TRAINING GUIDE ON THIS VERY WEBSITE linked toover and over. is not stupid is a dev alt is a bug is a bug a buuuuuuuuuuuuug
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:55:00 - [1091] Originally by: Elisa Day What the hell is wrong with you people? Complaining about not being able to play the game while not paying? . Gaining SP is not connected to playing in EVE and never was. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
ultima miner	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:56:00 - [1092] Edited by: ultima miner on 14/10/2008 06:58:58 well palyers wil fall behind isk wil be lost acounts wil never get on duel acounts wil be gone ccp best adverticement thing wil leave what else can do do more wrong if the needed some more cash then scarrying the people of from eve asnwer me that .................................................................................................................................... ITS SO WRONG DAMMIT/ can we dragg them to court for fruad for this?
Triksterism Gallente Frozen Corpse Inspection Services United Federation of Capsuleers	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:56:00 - [1093] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Triksterism C'mon Cat, be real. If they really thought bad of this from day 1, then they would not or at least should not have promoted it as a feature. Plain 'ol bullshit tbh. I don't think they thought this was bad from day 1, or at least not bad enough to worry about. (Of course, I also don't ever remember seeing them promote it as a feature.) What I think is that it was an accident, didn't really seem to present much of a problem, and so they let it slide. Now that it it starting to be a pain in the butt (or once somebody noticed just how much it's being exploited) they are fixing it. That is a bit BS. They didn't give a rat's ass until Iceland got all debt'ed up. Originally by: Elisa Day What the hell is wrong with you people? Complaining about not being able to play the game while not paying? THE HORROR. I always considered dark training a bit iffy, personally, and I definitely will NOT be canceling any accounts I wasn't paying for in the first place! I proudly support CCP 100% in this course of action! There does need to be a RL e-mail reminder when your GTC time is about to expire, though. Playing while not playing? Hardly. More like letting the clock tick while you're away from home doing other things. - Ghost Train & Snowflake
Terail Zoqial Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:57:00 - [1094] It's about freaking time, hell, it's bad enough without the macro's that we have a bunch of free loaders using bandwidth we pay for. Hope the whining carebears leave tbh.
Triksterism Gallente Frozen Corpse Inspection Services United Federation of Capsuleers	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:58:00 - [1095] Edited by: Triksterism on 14/10/2008 06:59:04 Edited by: Triksterism on 14/10/2008 06:58:17 Originally by: Terail Zoqial It's about freaking time, hell, it's bad enough without the macro's that we have a bunch of free loaders using bandwidth we pay for. Hope the whining carebears leave tbh. So, the bandwidth isn't paid for by the $ from carebears and macros as well? I guess their money goes to a special place. QQ, I feel unspecial! Also, people ghost training doesn't use bandwidth FYI. - Ghost Train & Snowflake
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:58:00 - [1096] Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended 12/31/2008 Total Number Of Payments: 14 Expires: 12/31/2008 3:54:05 PM Remaining Playtime: 78d:9h:2m End of this year, CCP. You have till then of me. Also, LOL at making it hard for me to access my own account details and preventing me from properly cancelling my account. -
INF Wonderwoman	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:59:00 - [1097] Originally by: Terail Zoqial It's about freaking time, hell, it's bad enough without the macro's that we have a bunch of free loaders using bandwidth we pay for. Hope the whining carebears leave tbh. Ghost Training takes no bandwidth.... the account is inactive. All it takes is space on the server to record the skill that is being trained, the time it will take to finish, and the time it was started.
SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:59:00 - [1098] Edited by: SSgt Sniper on 14/10/2008 06:59:30 Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Triksterism C'mon Cat, be real. If they really thought bad of this from day 1, then they would not or at least should not have promoted it as a feature. Plain 'ol bullshit tbh. I don't think they thought this was bad from day 1, or at least not bad enough to worry about. (Of course, I also don't ever remember seeing them promote it as a feature.) What I think is that it was an accident, didn't really seem to present much of a problem, and so they let it slide. Now that it it starting to be a pain in the butt (or once somebody noticed just how much it's being exploited) they are fixing it. 1. Click player guide to your left. 2. Click number six, Guides. 3. go down to the bottom half of the last grouping, Skills. 4. Go to the third paragraph, under How to train skills, below two blue boxes. 5. Read the first line. 6. Realize it's been there for something like four years. 7. tell me with a straight face it's a bug. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
Furnak Tye Caldari Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:59:00 - [1099] Edited by: Furnak Tye on 14/10/2008 07:00:05 1. There was a way to progress a character in EVE without an active subscription So it took you 5 years to change this? Flimsy excuse you're peddling here. *2. CCP noticed a surge in the trend and decided to fix the leak* Oh rly! show us some proof, This just smacks of being a downright lie at the moment. *3. Players now have to pay a subscription for characters to have them progress* Here we have the real reason, money, money, money. ------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:59:00 - [1100] Edited by: Seth Ruin on 14/10/2008 07:00:11 Originally by: Terail Zoqial It's about freaking time, hell, it's bad enough without the macro's that we have a bunch of free loaders using bandwidth we pay for. Hope the whining carebears leave tbh. As has been stated before: An inactive account uses zero bandwidth (no information is sent to/from CCP servers to/from an outside source), and due to the way skill training works, checking for inactive accounts will actually add workload to the servers. Edit: And I was beaten like a redheaded stepchild to the punch. -- (CCP Inconsistency)
Sergil	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:59:00 - [1101] I intended to print a lot of words, but in a 35-page thread with 5 posting per minute all the words are already have been said. So just a little. CCP you systematically change EVE from the 'game for the serious man' to the 'game for teenage masturbators'. I don't like it. CCP you haven't trained 'Calculator' skill yet. To realize 'Ghost training' i need to pay for at least 4 60-day GTC ($139.80) per year. Two 6-months subscriptions will cost $143.40. Damn! Tell me your PayPal account, CCP, and I send you that bloody $3.60 for the right to have a little relaxation from time to time. And finally, CCP you should write on the wall the number of currently payed accounts. I don't think that you even get close to this figure during the 2008 and 2009 years.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:59:00 - [1102] Originally by: Flinchey Originally by: Catherine Frasier As pointed out previously in this very thread this "feature" was discovered, not intended. are you stupid? its IN THE SKILL TRAINING GUIDE ON THIS VERY WEBSITE linked toover and over. Yes. The guide describes the way things are. It does not say anything about whether or not that was an accident.
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:01:00 - [1103] With the economic collapse in Iceland I feel folks are being kinda harsh. Skill training is part of the game. No other game allows you to train while not paying a subscription. The fact EVE allowed it so long was because it most likely wasn't hurting their bottom line. Now things are different in Iceland. They gotta look at where they can cut and trim so that they can remain in business and keep giving us the game we've all enjoyed for so long. I had to give up my other account in 2007 because I had personal financial problems. So I understand how folks feel, in fact I"m not sure my card will be renewed this December so I'm not sure how I'll pay for EVE next year if they don't renew it. I know others have hit hard times too. Still I don't rail against CCP for doing what they can to trim cost and keep themselves in business. Meci Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Sharingla	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:02:00 - [1104] Originally by: Horny Scientist All you complainers!!!! Jesus!! blah blah blah blah 1. It's obvious CCP's decision is final, whining till the cows come home will do no good. At least not for now. 2. Yes, CCP is doing a disservice to players who subscribe on and off due to rl demands. Without ghost training they fall further behind. Well thats a small percentage of ppl who take advantage of ghost training. Too bad. See the forum full of toon sellers? Complain to those hundreds of abusers who buy 30d gtcs just to train toons to SELL! Hey they ruined it. Good thing they removed 30d gtcs too. 3. A small percentage of players will complain like hell. Empty barrels make the most noise. Too bad. But the end result? The EXTRA number of subscriptions (by hardcore EVE obsessed fans) just to keep toons training will cover the subscriptions lost. The is the exact prediction CCP's marketing dept has I'm sure. 4. So complain all you like now, life goes on. However, if half the eve population quits because of this, I'm sure they'll bring ghost training back. But, hey, hell will freeze over too if that happened. 5. Oh and iceland's going bankrupt! Give them a break!!!! I'm not mad because they are killing ghost training I'm mad because they can't stop lying to our faces!
doofydoo	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:02:00 - [1105] im almost tempted to take a note of each character posting cancellation details in here, adding them to my address book and seeing how many log on after their cancellation date. this was gonna be disabled a couple of years ago, CCP decided against it, it was always in the works i dont know why people are so shocked and angry now. its not a life changer people...
speedek Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:03:00 - [1106] Bravo bravo... Shitty walking in stations you notice 2years before it's even in making and such thing u notice 2 days before patch, bravo really..
Anshin Wataru Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:03:00 - [1107] So you're telling me I won't be suckered back into given CCP more $$$ by the knowledge that I don't have a skill training anymore? Thats great, and here I thought I'd never be able to get rid of this game!
Elisa Day Shade.	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:03:00 - [1108] I don't remember this outrage the last time they said they were fixing this, what's changed now? I'm also noticing that most people in this thread are 1. people with no tickers or 2. Goonswarm. What's up?
SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:04:00 - [1109] Originally by: Mecinia Lua With the economic collapse in Iceland I feel folks are being kinda harsh. Skill training is part of the game. No other game allows you to train while not paying a subscription. The fact EVE allowed it so long was because it most likely wasn't hurting their bottom line. Now things are different in Iceland. They gotta look at where they can cut and trim so that they can remain in business and keep giving us the game we've all enjoyed for so long. I had to give up my other account in 2007 because I had personal financial problems. So I understand how folks feel, in fact I"m not sure my card will be renewed this December so I'm not sure how I'll pay for EVE next year if they don't renew it. I know others have hit hard times too. Still I don't rail against CCP for doing what they can to trim cost and keep themselves in business. Meci That's absolutely fine with 90% of the people here if they would TELL US THE TRUTH instead of making something that was always bragged about by TomB and Ovuer back in the day suddenly a bug. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
James Marshalll Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.14 07:04:00 - [1110] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Flinchey Originally by: Catherine Frasier As pointed out previously in this very thread this "feature" was discovered, not intended. are you stupid? its IN THE SKILL TRAINING GUIDE ON THIS VERY WEBSITE linked toover and over. Yes. The guide describes the way things are. It does not say anything about whether or not that was an accident. let me give you a little hint about software development, and more importantly let me give you a clue about game security. IF YOU HAVE A FREAKING FEATURE THAT IS A BUG AND YOU DONT WANT PEOPLE TO USE IT THE LAST THING YOU DO IS DOCUMENT IT IN YOUR PLAYER GUIDE. Please fanboi, (or girl) move on. We get it, you are either a GM alt, in love with CCP or can't see past your own nose.

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