EVE Search - Disabling ghost training

All Channels

EVE Information Portal

Disabling ghost training - the blog edition

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 200 .. 208 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 6 post(s)
Hun Jakuza Naughty By Nature	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:31:00 - [2311] "Ghost Training was an unintended feature where unpaid accounts of EVE Online were able to continue training skills. " LOL. I think i saw 5 years ago for CCP own hype because they said, this is the best feature of game. Why they did this ? Because they want some money, like as mmo competitors. /patetic I want more skills with 24x time training and maybe i will get one skill under three months for $50.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:32:00 - [2312] Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 14/10/2008 18:32:42 Originally by: Spawn06 Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 14/10/2008 18:25:07 Originally by: Spawn06 Edited by: Spawn06 on 14/10/2008 18:19:12 I dont see why CCP feel the need to apologise for this......if you need the reasoning explained then perhaps you should ask your mothers... Because if they behave like *****s while doing this - and many do understand the real reason behind this, they lose even more money on account of customers being ed off. If they have the right to be **ed off or not is not doesn't matter, they still give their answer with their CC. It's called good PR, and CCP looks like is lacking it. Perhaps your mommy should explain you that. PS: Never used this 'feature', if you are wondering. first - your a lame attempt at paul atreides second - your attempt to flame is laughable at best. You fail to see the point - if you go to the shop and you ask them to lend you some milk, what they gonna say lil fella....and if you do it the way you seem to here...well you would prolly end up behind bars cause your a bit touched... pay your account = char training grow up peeps and just hurry up and go if your gonna...or i will go thru every thread and quote every time you have threatened the same lol!!! I didn't name this char, i bought it 2 yrs ago, talk with the guy who made it in 2003 ... i didn't and it's name is actually spelled wrong. It wasn't an attempt to flame. You need to find a better analogy, i simply do not see your point. I have payed my accounts - 5 of them now, and never ghost trained. I'm gonna continue paying for them, but i also know some ppl who have chosen a different path. --- I smack just for myself. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
James Marshalll Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:32:00 - [2313] Originally by: Brigsby5987 if you dont pay, you dont play. period. No one cares if your poor, or your gonna take your alts and cancel your account. Either STFU or leave. Hopefully CCP understands that sometimes a general **** off attitude is good when dealing with the playerbase, as most of you complaining about them removing ghost training are being asshats about it. if this is the case, then why are there still inactive accounts that can A) have market orders, B) Hold offices / pay for offices C) hold corps D) Have lab slots People weren't "playing" the game ghost training, but the people who are doing the above listed sure were. Ghost training will not "hurt" balance in eve, in the last 4-5 years of it being active it never "hurt" anyone. While we are at it, since CCP likes to say this is a "Database" issue... then fine, delete all characters, and their assets that are offline for more then 6 months with out an active sub. I mean why not make this fail train complete.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:32:00 - [2314] Originally by: Wrathraker Since beta and the days of Castor being able to train was touted by CCP as a feature and not a liability like it is now. This is what was said and quoted by CCP in the beginning that set your game apart from other games that were out there at the time. Touted as a feature... where? "Said and quoted by CCP" that this set the game apart... where? Got links?
IR Scoutar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:32:00 - [2315] Originally by: Brigsby5987 if you dont pay, you dont play. period. No one cares if your poor, or your gonna take your alts and cancel your account. Either STFU or leave. Hopefully CCP understands that sometimes a general **** off attitude is good when dealing with the playerbase, as most of you complaining about them removing ghost training are being asshats about it. by that logic most people cheering for the removal are asshats aswell seeing as there are about 10 people cheering and the rest u probably count to this section just dont give a damn im gona count 10 people (btw 90% of statistics are indeed made up) that tells me that 1 of them isnt an asshat and because im rounding up its 2 and you clearly fall into the category of the other 8 who are asshats ty for your time
Annaphera Minmatar Super Green Industries	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:33:00 - [2316] Originally by: St Claus Originally by: Annaphera Originally by: St Claus Originally by: Annaphera "Rights"? What "rights"? Probaply not right word, but removing features and thus making game more expensive != good thing. And you really cant expect your customers to like it. Well, if you can make assumptions about intent, so can I - this was never intended as a way for you to save money on your account, it was unintended and left in to act as a consolation for people who go on vacation or something and miss resubbing. Whatever word you use, you are speaking of it as if you are entitled to it. You aren't, and CCP never promised you you would have it. Sorry, missed the part in training guide where it said that i can only use that "bug"/feature if i am on vacation. And I missed the part where common sense tells me that I should be able to be rewarded for not paying for something. The highest levels of skill training are supposed to be something you have to wait for while working your way up in other aspects of the game, not something to shortcut to. People were taking advantage of an unintended loophole that CCP left in for other reasons, and thus ruined it for everyone. Originally by: St Claus Originally by: Annaphera Originally by: St Claus Originally by: Annaphera So look at your argument. You say it would have been okay if it had been like that from the start. By that rationale, they can remove 60% of the ships in game, and not a soul should complain...titans certainly weren't there "from the start". Also, the game wouldn't be half of what it is now, because many of the first features have been replaced by new and (arguably in some cases) improved versions, or scrapped all together as no longer workable. Features change in an MMO, any MMO. Get used to it, or stop playing MMO's. I know my english is bad, but i dont belive it's that bad. I didn't say that it would be ok if they had placed that feature 2 years ago and now removing it. Also, removing titans don't make this game more expensive, if you have multiple accounts. But you were using duration the feature was in as justification for saying it can't be removed. How long it's been there, and since when, is absolutely meaningless. If you made the assumption that it would never change, that's your bad assumption, not CCP lying. No i did not. I said that you can in good faith to expect to receive this service for free, becouse it is the way it used to be. And if changed, CCP cant expect us to be happy and believe "it was a bug"-BS. Didn't say that CCP is lying becouse they change something. I did say that the reason they gave us is a lie. Wow - "you can in good faith to expect to recieve this servoce for free, because that is the way it used to be"... That is just bad. I could put a bowl of candy on my desk, and let anyone take one; by your logic, if I for some reason decided to stop filling the bowl, everyone who had come to expect it would have the right to get ***ed and yell at me until I put the candy out again. That goes against all common sense, especially when we are talking about a paid subscription service*!
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:33:00 - [2317] Originally by: Kuolematon Year ago CCP said that this is CHINESE server "function" and will NEVER hit TQ. Where did they say that?
Elo69007	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:33:00 - [2318] Originally by: Brigsby5987 if you dont pay, you dont play. period. No one cares if your poor, or your gonna take your alts and cancel your account. Either STFU or leave. Hopefully CCP understands that sometimes a general ** off attitude is good when dealing with the playerbase, as most of you complaining about them removing ghost training are being asshats about it. Business 101 Idiot, the customer is always right. CCP is doing this because they want moar money. If majority of players - as noted in this thread - are unhappy with changes, and may even quit because of it, DONT DO IT. If ccp wants to run a succesfull business, they will realize the importance of happy customers - And hopefully not listen to bags like you, u ing **ed **
Edmar Ship Depot	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:34:00 - [2319] I find it odd that anyone would leave EVE over this action. Was you seriously closing down accounts to take advantage of it that much? Or is the fotm now declaring how many accounts you will close in response to every game change. I can kind of see how someone could feel it takes something away from them under certain cirumstances, such as having to go on military leave etc. So I think this action would be better received after a true skill queuing system was in place, since those people could opt to keep paying and getting skill training done. Also, people have mentioned that they sometimes give their buddys access to their accounts instead of closing account (which is bad because said buddy can strip it of assets etc) so a skill queue system could curb that some.
Spawn06	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:35:00 - [2320] Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 14/10/2008 18:32:42 Originally by: Spawn06 Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 14/10/2008 18:25:07 Originally by: Spawn06 Edited by: Spawn06 on 14/10/2008 18:19:12 I dont see why CCP feel the need to apologise for this......if you need the reasoning explained then perhaps you should ask your mothers... Because if they behave like *****s while doing this - and many do understand the real reason behind this, they lose even more money on account of customers being ed off. If they have the right to be **ed off or not is not doesn't matter, they still give their answer with their CC. It's called good PR, and CCP looks like is lacking it. Perhaps your mommy should explain you that. PS: Never used this 'feature', if you are wondering. first - your a lame attempt at paul atreides second - your attempt to flame is laughable at best. You fail to see the point - if you go to the shop and you ask them to lend you some milk, what they gonna say lil fella....and if you do it the way you seem to here...well you would prolly end up behind bars cause your a bit touched... pay your account = char training grow up peeps and just hurry up and go if your gonna...or i will go thru every thread and quote every time you have threatened the same lol!!! I didn't name this char, i bought it 2 yrs ago, talk with the guy who made it in 2003 ... i didn't and it's name is actually spelled wrong. It wasn't an attempt to flame. You need to find a better analogy, i simply do not see your point. I have payed my accounts - 5 of them now, and never ghost trained. I'm gonna continue paying for them, but i also know some ppl who have chosen a different path. I do too - boo them - if i have to endure the grind then let CCP force everyone else too - if your alt does not like it then... can i have your stuff?
LadyMaverick	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:35:00 - [2321] Originally by: Alt Alt lol at this, conspiracy theory alert: so i think ccp secretly just bought stock in the makers of jumpgate evolution and warhammer. realizing their own game was on the slow road to nowhere, CCP enforces a rule which will surely drive much of their own consumer base to warhammer and jumpgate. everyone check out warhammer's subscription numbers tommorrow morning, I know that is where the 45$ a month i spent on eve is going soon. I hope not! Looking forward to JGE but not under these tards
ISIAM	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:35:00 - [2322] Originally by: Jocho Quote: I just feel sorry for the CCP workers who are going to be layed off in the coming month because of this sh***y decision. I give it a year and the whole thing will be done.
Soldur Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:36:00 - [2323] ELO time to consolidated accounts
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:37:00 - [2324] Originally by: Spawn06 Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 14/10/2008 18:32:42 Originally by: Spawn06 Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 14/10/2008 18:25:07 Originally by: Spawn06 Edited by: Spawn06 on 14/10/2008 18:19:12 I dont see why CCP feel the need to apologise for this......if you need the reasoning explained then perhaps you should ask your mothers... Because if they behave like *****s while doing this - and many do understand the real reason behind this, they lose even more money on account of customers being ed off. If they have the right to be **ed off or not is not doesn't matter, they still give their answer with their CC. It's called good PR, and CCP looks like is lacking it. Perhaps your mommy should explain you that. PS: Never used this 'feature', if you are wondering. first - your a lame attempt at paul atreides second - your attempt to flame is laughable at best. You fail to see the point - if you go to the shop and you ask them to lend you some milk, what they gonna say lil fella....and if you do it the way you seem to here...well you would prolly end up behind bars cause your a bit touched... pay your account = char training grow up peeps and just hurry up and go if your gonna...or i will go thru every thread and quote every time you have threatened the same lol!!! I didn't name this char, i bought it 2 yrs ago, talk with the guy who made it in 2003 ... i didn't and it's name is actually spelled wrong. It wasn't an attempt to flame. You need to find a better analogy, i simply do not see your point. I have payed my accounts - 5 of them now, and never ghost trained. I'm gonna continue paying for them, but i also know some ppl who have chosen a different path. I do too - boo them - if i have to endure the grind then let CCP force everyone else too - if your alt does not like it then... can i have your stuff? Are you trying to flame me ? It might be better to go more forward, the round-about way you are using now is not working. --- I smack just for myself. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Kaesarr	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:38:00 - [2325] remember ccp i cancel mi 2 ac****s = -30e
Lag	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:38:00 - [2326] Edited by: Lag on 14/10/2008 18:42:29 Quote: This change is complete crap. Why should I pay for a months time that my character will not be able to do anything? I say that because I previously sold my 5 yr old character to make a "perfect" character capable of learning skills quicker. Any competent player knows that the learning skills come first. Yes, I could go do level 1 missions with my uber 900k skillpoints. That's about as productive and worth-while as pickin my nose for an hour. If you like to do that, then good for you. I'm not re-activating my account so I can pay for my character to sit while he trains the essential learning skills. I'm not re-activating my account so I can train other skills and actually do something in-game, while defeating my purpose of starting a new character. Edit: To CCP, You should have fixed this shit 5 years ago if you didn't want it to happen. Surely it would have been something that "experienced" game developers knew would happen.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:39:00 - [2327] Originally by: Elo69007 Business 101 Idiot, the customer is always right. If you really believe that silly slogan is a blanket statement of fact then you've clearly never actually taken Biz 101. (To say nothing of actually running a business.)
lenophie	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:39:00 - [2328] Number of account : -1
Stenhuggare Persson	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:39:00 - [2329] This change doesn't affect me directly, but I know it will prove to be a big mistake in the long run. EvE had a great competative edge towards most other MMOs in the fact that you could leave the game for a few months, come back and have your character not as you left it, but better. This is the sole reason why alot of players always come back to EvE in the end, even if there are hundreds of other possible candidates to steal their gaming time. The game is boring when you leave it because there's nothing interesting to do, but when you come back you can fly a new ship. If you have to pay for all these weeks or months waiting for that one skill, it is simply not worth the wait. I have four real-life friends who agree, and they will never play Eve again. You will see a short-term increase in subscriptions. In the long run you will lose a great many subscriptions. The MMO industry is hugely competative, and you just lost an edge in that competition. The way you put out the news was well done, saying it was for the loyal, paying customers that you did it. I am one of those loyal customers (at the moment), so I do not object from a personal standpoint. But for your own sake I strongly suggest you reconsider. If you don't understand my argument now, you will later.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:40:00 - [2330] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Kuolematon Year ago CCP said that this is CHINESE server "function" and will NEVER hit TQ. Where did they say that? I'm trying to find it but eve-search is being ****ed. Gimme a second. "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"**
Sal Alo Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:41:00 - [2331] Originally by: Kuolematon Year ago CCP said that this is CHINESE server "function" and will NEVER hit TQ. They lied!! LIEDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 That's the truth. You sux CCP, ghost training =/= playing so now we have 60days skills that cost 30Ç to be learnt. itemshop, anyone? ps: Quoted from the Player guide Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g615.asp
Spawn06	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:42:00 - [2332] This is soooo funneh...lolol... Soooo cause you train bs5 you cant "do anything" so you would prefer to not have to pay for your account cause like...its training and that is boring...and like you cant do missions or pew in low sec or like anything when ur training like bs5...so like why pay for that yeh...what rubbish anything you say beyond this point to the contrary is rubbish cause spawny said it - seriously GOOOOOOO stop saying it cancel right NOW!!! sif your gonna !@#@@!
BIind	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:43:00 - [2333] Originally by: Shigsy Originally by: Kuolematon Year ago CCP said that this is CHINESE server "function" and will NEVER hit TQ. They lied!! LIEDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 omg yeah forgot about that. Someone dig up that thread now this, this, this. Nothing about it never being changed ever tho.
Erimisha Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:44:00 - [2334] Originally by: Edmar I find it odd that anyone would leave EVE over this action. Was you seriously closing down accounts to take advantage of it that much? Or is the fotm now declaring how many accounts you will close in response to every game change. I don't find it odd. MMO fans are pretty loyal and some of the most hardcore fanboys around. This whole thing isn't so much that a simple game mechanic being changed. It is more about how CCP told us, their reasonings (database lag, unfair advantages it created, it is a 'bug', etc) and then their complete and utter refusal to acknowlege the playerbase's anger over the above. Instead of actually acknowleging our anger they are seemingly intent on hiding it. Multiple locked threads with a dev redirect to anther locked thread which redirects to another locked thread, a thread that simply 'disappeared' (When was the last time that ever happened?) and now a 3rd thread on the matter.. Combine that with the SAME EXACT treatment during the 'other' fiasco and even the most loyal customers will start to feel betrayed. And when a loyal fan feels betrayed they usually take the same level of energy that they poured into their game/favorite publisher and turn it against their game/favorite publisher.
Derdre Esme	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:45:00 - [2335] and does something similar is planned for "ghost trading" ?
Spawn06	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:46:00 - [2336] cookie anyone? emo hug?
TheG2 Gallente Dirty Rotten Scoundrels	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:47:00 - [2337] Originally by: BIind this, this, this. Nothing about it never being changed ever tho. No mention of this ever being a bug either though. It's an obvious money grab attempt at CCP that is utterly destroying player confidence and respect for the company. I've canceled and alt account, and unless CCP gets back on track and does something worthwhile before my current subscription expires, I'll be leaving EVE for another MMO.
Soldur Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:47:00 - [2338] Edited by: Soldur on 14/10/2008 18:49:22 Originally by: CCP Jiekon Hi folks. I just want to let you know that skill training WILL continue while the account is inactive. I had picked this up wrong when i was speaking to Wrangler before and i mistakenly told him that skills stop training when accounts go inactive, this is why it was included in the patch notes and it's entirely my fault. This was a mistake on my part and the patch notes will be changed and that line removed as soon as possible. Apologies for the misunderstandings. Posted - 2006.12.26 19:37:00
Amarr Hyena	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:48:00 - [2339] Im sure its been said a hundred times, but, fix the rediculous skill training times then you wouldent be having this problem to begin with! and...because im a scavenger...sigh...can I have your stuff? ------- ghost training Threadnaught V. Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive.
Spawn06	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:48:00 - [2340] Originally by: TheG2 Originally by: BIind this, this, this. Nothing about it never being changed ever tho. No mention of this ever being a bug either though. It's an obvious money grab attempt at CCP that is utterly destroying player confidence and respect for the company. I've canceled and alt account, and unless CCP gets back on track and does something worthwhile before my current subscription expires, I'll be leaving EVE for another MMO. ciao bella

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 200 .. 208 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.