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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:07:00 -
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Pay with real money please? They aren't going to basically slash the value of their product to cater to an audience of a few hundred, several thousand at the most, even if it is the nation where they currently are headquartered.
The Krona is going anywhere but up for a long, long time. I'm afraid you're just going to have to deal with it.
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Na'Thuul
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:10:00 -
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Iceland should start talking to the Norwegian government about coming back home. Most Icelanders are of Norwegian descent anyways =)
We has oil and monies! ---
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Quanteeri
Salty Seaman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Quanteeri on 14/10/2008 18:12:47 Icelanders should be able to pay at the CCP office. You should stage a protest in front of their building.
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Somal Thunder
Intergalactic Peace Organization
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 14/10/2008 18:09:48
Originally by: Somal Thunder The currency they pay in can't be used to pay for company expenses. 1500 kr=nur actually means something here, while 20 rubels or whatever can't be used to purchase any product here.
Yeah, but 15 euro is 15 euro no matter how you put it. So just pay the guys 15 euro like everybody else in the EU economic area regardless of their national coin. Oh, like, say, Romanians ?
Hey, look, you COULD have joined the EU already, but you didn't. You COULD have adopted the Euro, but you didn't.
CCP could charge you in ISK instead of EUR, but it won't.
End of story.
Joining the EU would have been much worse (and we were denied to adopt the euro without doing such) Also, we still wouldn't have the euro, had we adopted it.
By joining the EU we would have to surrender all our fish. If we can't export fish, the country can no longer import products, causing dramatic inflation. We would be worse set off (although GTC's would be peanuts for us)
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Somal Thunder
Intergalactic Peace Organization
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Thuul Iceland should start talking to the Norwegian government about coming back home. Most Icelanders are of Norwegian descent anyways =)
We has oil and monies!
Don't forget the Irish monks!!
No but seriously, you guys should've helped us when we sent out our economical "S.O.S." This must prove that Russians are better than Norwegians in some way.
Originally by: Quanteeri Icelanders should be able to pay at the CCP office.
Agreed!
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Na'Thuul
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Na''Thuul on 14/10/2008 18:19:42 Edited by: Na''Thuul on 14/10/2008 18:18:43
Originally by: Somal Thunder
Originally by: Na'Thuul Iceland should start talking to the Norwegian government about coming back home. Most Icelanders are of Norwegian descent anyways =)
We has oil and monies!
Don't forget the Irish monks!!
No but seriously, you guys should've helped us when we sent out our economical "S.O.S." This must prove that Russians are better than Norwegians in some way.
Originally by: Quanteeri Icelanders should be able to pay at the CCP office.
Agreed!
Actually it just shows Russia has a hidden agenda. Don't think for a second Putin helps anyone out of charity. Anyways, we ARE helping. Your central bank just got 200 million euros from us, with the option to get another 300 million at any time if needed ---
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Somal Thunder
Intergalactic Peace Organization
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Thuul Edited by: Na''Thuul on 14/10/2008 18:19:42 Edited by: Na''Thuul on 14/10/2008 18:18:43
Originally by: Somal Thunder
Originally by: Na'Thuul Iceland should start talking to the Norwegian government about coming back home. Most Icelanders are of Norwegian descent anyways =)
We has oil and monies!
Don't forget the Irish monks!!
No but seriously, you guys should've helped us when we sent out our economical "S.O.S." This must prove that Russians are better than Norwegians in some way.
Originally by: Quanteeri Icelanders should be able to pay at the CCP office.
Agreed!
Actually it just shows Russia has a hidden agenda. Don't think for a second Putin helps anyone out of charity. Anyways, we ARE helping. Your central bank just got 200 million euros from us, with the option to get another 300 million at any time if needed
Yes, that's true, you are helping, but it definately took it's time and your leaders were reluctant to do so. Personally, I'm in gratitude and I know that Putin will probably extort our underground oil jurisdcitions from us, but there is nothing we can do about that, we need all the currency we can get so that our kr=na doesn't crumble like a biscuit in hot water.
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Brigsby5987
Caldari 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:29:00 -
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Quote: No, we do note blame CCP for anything, except not charging us in the local currency. How would you Americans like it if all car rentals only let you rent your cars with euros, and your dollar collapsed? You'd probably be pretty ****ed.
Not to burst your bubble but our dollar is at risk of collapse due to the euro/yen.
Currently gas is purchased with the dollar, but if they decide to switch to the Euro or Yen, our value will crash.
Will it suck? Yes. Will playing eve be one of the main things on my mind? No. Get your priorities straight and look at leaving iceland before it gets worse, rather then worrying about how you will play eve.
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Na'Thuul
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:33:00 -
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Well, just to clarify, our government said from they start they were more than happy to help, but only if the Icelandic government asked for it.
To quote "Iceland has to define what they need, and talk to us. I do not believe it will do any good if we were to come barging in with money telling the Icelanders what to do." ---
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Somal Thunder
Intergalactic Peace Organization
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Brigsby5987
Quote: No, we do note blame CCP for anything, except not charging us in the local currency. How would you Americans like it if all car rentals only let you rent your cars with euros, and your dollar collapsed? You'd probably be pretty ****ed.
Not to burst your bubble but our dollar is at risk of collapse due to the euro/yen.
Currently gas is purchased with the dollar, but if they decide to switch to the Euro or Yen, our value will crash.
Will it suck? Yes. Will playing eve be one of the main things on my mind? No. Get your priorities straight and look at leaving iceland before it gets worse, rather then worrying about how you will play eve.
If I could leave, I would, but I'm learning economics here (ironic, isn't it?) and I have nowhere to go. But don't worry, I can always start over, I don't have any loans.
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Meistari Hanagalsins
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Posted - 2008.10.15 00:35:00 -
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Icelandic: MTr finnst ¦etta algj÷r vitleysa. CCP ber enga ßbyrg= ß kr=nufallinu, ¦vert ß m=ti; CCP er ·tflutningsfyrirtµki og hefur ¦annig styrkt kr=nuna ß undanf÷rnum ßrum. ¦ar sem game card er ekki nau=synjavara ber CCP enga meirihßttar samfTlagslega ßbyrg= umfram skatta. A= spila EvE er ¦rßtt fyrir hµkkunina ekki d²r skemmtun, ¦a= tekur mann f lßglaunavinnu n· um 4 tfma a= vinna fyrir game cardi f sta=inn fyrir 2.
English: This is total nonsense. CCP can't be held responsible for the kr=na collapse, on the contrary; being an exporting corporation it has only strengthened the kr=na in recent years. In spite of the heightened price, playing EvE is still not expensive for Icelanders, it costs about 4 working hours (for someone with low wages) now instead of 2. And because game cards can only be considered a luxury CCP doesn't have the social responsibility of providing it with a discount or for free in harsh times.
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Col Carter
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Posted - 2008.10.15 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Somal Thunder
By joining the EU we would have to surrender all our fish. If we can't export fish, the country can no longer import products, causing dramatic inflation. We would be worse set off (although GTC's would be peanuts for us)
Completely incorrect. Have a look at Denmark's membership agreements, while on a base level there are a lot of things which cannot be deviated from as an EU member, there is a multitude of options available for countries to be a member and retain control over vital aspects of their society or economics. A briefing was provided to your cabinet on these matters two days ago, by now I would have thought some smart politicians and entrepreneurs to recognise the potential of EU membership without having to, err, give up the fish.
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Max Torps
Gallente DawnWatchers
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Posted - 2008.10.15 00:58:00 -
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If anyone took the time to listen to some of the Icelanders when they visit fanfest they will know that Icelanders generally are fiercely independent and although have close ties to Norway both historically and genetically, they would rather remain politically independent.
As for special dispensation to make a game time card available at the game shop in Reykjavik and therefore purchasable in RL Isk then that's a decision that CCP can make and frankly I wouldn't blame them for doing so. Especially as their first game success was home grown.
But then everyone's an armchair economist these days.
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Col Carter
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Posted - 2008.10.15 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Max Torps As for special dispensation to make a game time card available at the game shop in Reykjavik and therefore purchasable in RL Isk then that's a decision that CCP can make and frankly I wouldn't blame them for doing so. Especially as their first game success was home grown.
Economy is cheap these days
It would be a commendable action, but an unlikely one. It is corporate world.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.15 01:09:00 -
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This is one of those things that I'm sure CCP is well aware of and it probably pains them not to offer GTC in ISK but they are facing alot of tough decisions lately I'm sure with the economic crash.
However, killing a good amount of the profit from a company is never a good practice, and neither is going into panic mode. (See airlines after 9/11, Wallstreet the last month.) They can't change business practice because of a crises, that will only make things worse.
I feel sorry for you guys btw, I hope the upturn the last 2-3 days helps you out some.
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Fresh Prince
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.10.15 08:50:00 -
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Sty= ¦etta.
Endilega halda ¦essu ß -slensku. ¦essir Bresku hundar hafa ekkert a= segja um mßli=, skilja ¦a= ekki og eina sem ¦etta gefur ¦eim er bensfn ß bßli= sem ¦eir eru a= reyna a= brenna okkur ß! ¦eir myndu kannski sn÷kkta a=eins aumingjarnir ef a= kr=nan kosta=i 250kr ß m=ti pundinu og ¦eir ¦yrftu a= borga f ¦eirri rusl mynt. Sem stendur erum vi= a= borga ß milli 2300-3000kr ß mßnu=i (mismunandi gengi ß milli stofnana) sem er pfnu geggjun ¦egar um er a= rµ=a allt a= ¦rjß a=ganga.
CCP...taki= ykkur saman f andlitinu og s²ni= a= ykkur sT a= minnsta kosti ÷rlfti= annt um ¦ß sem a= byrju=u ß a= sty=ja ykkur.
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Kendar
Gallente Disney inc
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Posted - 2008.10.15 09:04:00 -
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would this not be a great time for people from iceland to quit eve? makes it a lot easyer to quit something when you have to choose either food for a week or paying for a game!
I wish I was that poor so I could quit this evil game that have its hands in my pockets (and its not doing anytinthg good in that pocket ) but here in norway we can pay a month with 30min at work
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Dikanal
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Posted - 2008.10.15 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dikanal on 15/10/2008 09:08:32 You have to feel sympathy for the people in Iceland if the price of EVE for them has tripled I doubt many other people would consider paying triple the price they currently pay while the general cost of living is going through the roof as well.
CCP could easily do something even if its a simple thing like printing off some time codes and putting them in sealed envelopes and getting a local shop to sell them for a modest fee.
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Tiger313
313th Squadron
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Posted - 2008.10.15 09:11:00 -
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I can sort of see where these Icelandic dudes are coming from, but you have to understand that if CCP now decides to give Icelandic people cheaper GTC's, those GTC's might actually end up being sold on for profit? You only need one rotten apple trying to take advantage, you see? So I can sort of see where CCP is coming from too. |
Carthas Kei
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Posted - 2008.10.15 09:14:00 -
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CCP does not even respond to topics like this.
Which only proves a point. |
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.15 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Somal Thunder but I'm learning economics here (ironic, isn't it?)
It certainly is ironic, since you apparently have no idea why CCP wouldn't want your ISK even if your following statement were true:
Originally by: Somal Thunder They pay for a big part of their expenses in ISK anyways.
Of course you've figured out it isn't true from the way I phrased my previous sentence. You seem to ignore CCP's employees in the U.S., U.K., and elsewhere as well as all the expenses for the cluster such as the hardware and the energy bill.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.15 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Hey, look, you COULD have joined the EU already, but you didn't. You COULD have adopted the Euro, but you didn't.
CCP could charge you in ISK instead of EUR, but it won't.
End of story.
Quoting an epic slam. As I recall, the Icelandic opinion was 'lol our economy is so awesome, we don't need the EU'
I'd bet good money that the Icelandic attitude towards the EU has changed drastically recently. Fail fail fail. --
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Wragdis
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Posted - 2008.10.15 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Brigsby5987
Quote:
Will it suck? Yes. Will playing eve be one of the main things on my mind? No. Get your priorities straight and look at leaving iceland before it gets worse, rather then worrying about how you will play eve.
This is the stupidest post anyone has made. I find Brigsby's attitude disgusting. The OP makes a fair comment and The moron says leave your country.
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Flash Bombardo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:20:00 -
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I agree with the OP, sort yourselves out CCP and charge them in the local currency !
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Flash Bombardo I agree with the OP, sort yourselves out CCP and charge them in the local currency !
If I can't pay in pounds - a major global currency which is hugely stronger than the Krona - because the servers are located in London, then what chance do the Icelanders have of paying in ISK - an unknown currency used by 300,000 people on an island in the middle of nowhere - because CCP's HQ is located in Iceland?
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Jagadai Bator
Amarr Veyr
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Jagadai Bator on 15/10/2008 11:41:55 Gah! you claim to be studying economics? I should move to a better college or actually go to a few lectures mate
You want a company to lower its costs so you can continue to use its products. Fail. What are the origins of the current Icelandic economic plight? - leverage. Institutions buying assets with credit which left them cronically over-extended come the crunch.
You are asking to do the same thing. If you cant afford to pay your subscription, stop playing and save your money for essentials rather than frittering it away on luxuries. What ever happened to living within your means?
Why, when I were a lad and I wanted a new stick or pet dead rat, I had to feckin' save up my monthly penny until I could afford it....
Edit: sausage finger typing
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Banana Torres
Look Ma I did a Test
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:45:00 -
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How much would I get for 1500 kr=nur?
Would it get me a fair go with an Icelanderish hoor when I am at the fanfest?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres How much would I get for 1500 kr=nur? Would it get me a fair go with an Icelanderish hoor when I am at the fanfest?
9 bucks ? Under 7 euro ? You'd be lucky if it gets you a couple of beers Or maybe a pack of ciggies
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Inara Dex
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Inara Dex on 15/10/2008 11:55:54 ehh?
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Mr Manjuice
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Posted - 2008.10.15 11:57:00 -
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If Korona gets devalued any more, maybe isk will become you new currency.
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