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Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2008.10.14 16:48:00 - [1] - fslensku: Vi= -slendingar erum or=nir nokku= f·lir ß ßstandinu eins og stendur. ¦a= er a= ver=a erfi=ara og erfi=ara a= kaupa sTr ßskrift f EVE og einnig d²rara. Vi=, fslensku EVE-Online spilararnir, h÷ldum ¦vf fram a= CCP sT a= gefa okkur puttann, og gefum vi= ¦vf CCP puttann beint ß m=ti ef ekkert ver=ur gert til a= lei=rTtta ¦etta. ¦= svo a= ¦a= sT hµgt a= kaupa tfmak==a f BT eru ¦eir =·tsk²ranlega d²rir, og ¦a= vµri µskilegt ef vi= gµtum keypt tfmann okkar ß netinu og borga= me= fslenskum kr=num. 1500 kr=nur er alveg nokku= sanngjarnt ver= fyrir mßnu=, ver=i= eins og ¦a= er f dag getur ekki talist sem neitt anna= en spark f okkar fjßrhagslega pung. --- In English: We, the Icelandic EVE-Online players are growing to become quite tired of the situation that has struck us. It is becoming increasingly expensive and difficult to purchase EVE game time. We, the Icelandic EVE-Online players, have decided to take this as a sign that CCP is effectively giving us the (middle) finger, and we will respond in an identical manner if nothing shall be done to come to terms with us. Although that purchasing time codes in a store such as BT is possible (they don't even list the item in their online catalog), it is expensive at an alarming level. We wish to be able to purchase game time over the internet and pay in Icelandic currency, the Icelandic Krona. 1500 kr=nur is a pretty fair and decent price, but as the situation is as it is today, the price we are being charge is equivalent to a blow in the nuts towards our wallets. The Icelandic people have spoken. --- Ef ¦i= eru= sammßla, setji= eftirfarandi f svar ykkar vi= ¦essum ¦rµ=i: If you agree, please place the following image into your reply: Quote: [img]http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9639/1daysupport2ti8.jpg[/img] Preview:
hundurinn Pagan Belief	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:08:00 - [2] I support this man.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:10:00 - [3] i don't mean this to sound like the typical "why don't you just pay with a credit card post" but why don't you just pay with a credit card? ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
Cpt Hound Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:12:00 - [4] Edited by: Cpt Hound on 14/10/2008 17:14:20 Originally by: Pesky LaRue i don't mean this to sound like the typical "why don't you just pay with a credit card post" but why don't you just pay with a credit card? But we do. We pay in euros, and when we receive the credit card bill it's in Icelandic Krona. Icelandic krona collapses, euro goes up, we pay more. And depending on the current exchange rate, the cost has doubled or tripled.
Dizeezer Velar Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Cpt Hound Originally by: Pesky LaRue i don't mean this to sound like the typical "why don't you just pay with a credit card post" but why don't you just pay with a credit card? But we do. We pay in euros, and when we receive the credit card bill it's in Icelandic Krona. Icelandic krona collapses, euro goes up, we pay more. So you are blaming CCP for the collapse of the Krona??? LOL
Sprawdzacz	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:15:00 - [6] LOL most of young ppl in my country have to work 1 day ( 8 hours ) for 30d gtc ;] In USA its only how many? 2 hours ( if you work in mcdonald;d )?! And you are complaining because of what? That GTC dont cost like can of coke for you ?:D cry me a river lol
Cpt Hound Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:16:00 - [7] Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Originally by: Cpt Hound Originally by: Pesky LaRue i don't mean this to sound like the typical "why don't you just pay with a credit card post" but why don't you just pay with a credit card? But we do. We pay in euros, and when we receive the credit card bill it's in Icelandic Krona. Icelandic krona collapses, euro goes up, we pay more. So you are blaming CCP for the collapse of the Krona??? LOL How on earth did you get that impression, I only said: Quote: Icelandic krona collapses
Gaurina Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:16:00 - [8] +g sty= ¦etta heilshugar! And to answer the credicard question: Not everyone has a credit card, I got my first 2 years ago only because I was traveling to a country that didn't take my debet card everywhere. Up until that point I paid for my subscription with cash by buying GTC in the store.
Dizeezer Velar Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:17:00 - [9] Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 14/10/2008 17:18:02 Originally by: Cpt Hound Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Originally by: Cpt Hound Originally by: Pesky LaRue i don't mean this to sound like the typical "why don't you just pay with a credit card post" but why don't you just pay with a credit card? But we do. We pay in euros, and when we receive the credit card bill it's in Icelandic Krona. Icelandic krona collapses, euro goes up, we pay more. So you are blaming CCP for the collapse of the Krona??? LOL How on earth did you get that impression, I only said: Quote: Icelandic krona collapses Yea exactly. CCP hasn't raised it's price. Your Krona's value has changed, making eve more expensive because of your devalued currency. That is something that CCP has no control over, so I'm not sure what you expect them to do.
Sexiest Beast Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:31:00 - [10] What exactly is it you are asking ? Do you want CCP to single-handedly fix the icelandic economy or do you propose the CCP offer the option to pay in local currency ?
Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:32:00 - [11] Originally by: Pesky LaRue i don't mean this to sound like the typical "why don't you just pay with a credit card post" but why don't you just pay with a credit card? Let's do some maths to explain how much we have to pay if we pay with credit cards: Please note that ISK in this picture reffers to Icelandic Kr=na. Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Originally by: Cpt Hound Originally by: Pesky LaRue i don't mean this to sound like the typical "why don't you just pay with a credit card post" but why don't you just pay with a credit card? But we do. We pay in euros, and when we receive the credit card bill it's in Icelandic Krona. Icelandic krona collapses, euro goes up, we pay more. So you are blaming CCP for the collapse of the Krona??? LOL No, we do note blame CCP for anything, except not charging us in the local currency. How would you Americans like it if all car rentals only let you rent your cars with euros, and your dollar collapsed? You'd probably be pretty **ed. Originally by:** Sprawdzacz LOL most of young ppl in my country have to work 1 day ( 8 hours ) for 30d gtc ;] In USA its only how many? 2 hours ( if you work in mcdonald;d )?! And you are complaining because of what? That GTC dont cost like can of coke for you ?:D cry me a river lol Although you make a good point, you are comparing two very unlike situations. But I'll be honest with you, the average teenager gets about 800 ISK (kr=na) an hour, that's still 6 hours and 33 minutes. Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Yea exactly. CCP hasn't raised it's price. Your Krona's value has changed, making eve more expensive because of your devalued currency. That is something that CCP has no control over, so I'm not sure what you expect them to do. CCP may not have any control of the krona, but by not accepting our Icelandic currency by forcing us to purchase euros, they are weakening our currency and there is something they can do about it, and that is sell the game time in Icelandic Kr=na.
Mikal Drey Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:32:00 - [12] hey hey I remember paying for my account in ISK unfortunatly CCP milked that cashcow already :''''(
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:34:00 - [13] Oh, hey, yeah, listen, I'm from Whereverthehellistan, and our national coin also suffered a big nosedive. We ALSO demand that CCP starts chargin us in OUR local currency at the prices we used to pay a year ago. Thank you for understanding. _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Asuka SoryuLangley	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:37:00 - [14] Edited by: Asuka SoryuLangley on 14/10/2008 17:37:43 First: Speak english FFS! Second: i'm european and wish to pay in dollars, make me happy!
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:37:00 - [15] Edited by: Euriti on 14/10/2008 17:37:58 I'll simplify this for the people who can't grasp it. The islandic currency (Krone) has collapsed and lots most of it's value. Icelandic people have to pay for EVE in euro but get paid in kroner, which means that their cost for playing eve has doubled or tripled compared to before. Enabling them to pay in their own currency will mean that they, relatively to their salary, pay the same as before. Also to the people saying that they want to pay in their currency too, there's a difference, CCP are from iceland and, afaik, pay people in ISK.
Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Akita T Oh, hey, yeah, listen, I'm from Whereverthehellistan, and our national coin also suffered a big nosedive. We ALSO demand that CCP starts chargin us in OUR local currency at the prices we used to pay a year ago. Thank you for understanding. Why would they use your currency when CCP is not located in the country that uses it? CCP is located in the country that uses the Icelandic Kr=na. Just like your slave-trade sneaker factories are located in your country, and that's why somebody pays your currency for it, even though we might have to pay whatever currency we trade in at the end of the line.
Dizeezer Velar Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:39:00 - [17] CCP is a global company, they charge in euros or usd just like other global companies. Just because they originated in iceland doesn't mean they are a local company. Their wanting people to pay in euros is not outrageous or unreasonable. That being said, I feel for you though, hope your economy rights itself soon.
Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:39:00 - [18] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley Edited by: Asuka SoryuLangley on 14/10/2008 17:37:43 First: Speak english FFS! Second: i'm european and wish to pay in dollars, make me happy! I see you've edited your post, because you've probably realized that I have explained why we want to pay in "kr=nur". Also, if you want to pay in dollars, purchase your game time off www.shatteredcrystal.com which sells time codes in American Dollars.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:42:00 - [19] Edited by: Akita T on 14/10/2008 17:44:50 Originally by: Somal Thunder Why would they use your currency when CCP is not located in the country that uses it? Why would they use the ISK instead of USD/EUR just because they have the head office over there in Iceland ? P.S. Just for the record, I live in Romania, which is technically part of the EU already, even if we still have a different currency than the Euro. Pretty much every IT&telecom company charges in RON equivalent of fixed EUR prices, and before we were part of the EU they used to charge in RON equivalent of fixed USD prices. _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:47:00 - [20] Edited by: Somal Thunder on 14/10/2008 17:49:39 Originally by: Dizeezer Velar CCP is a global company, they charge in euros or usd just like other global companies. Just because they originated in iceland doesn't mean they are a local company. Their wanting people to pay in euros is not outrageous or unreasonable. That being said, I feel for you though, hope your economy rights itself soon. Most global companies actually charge their product based on where it is manufactured or where the service is provided. Hertz in America will charge you in dollars, Hertz in Germany will charge you in euros. Seeing as CCP does most of the actual developing in Iceland, I think it's only fair that they show the home team some support and let people pay for the game in the currency they use in most of their expenses. Granted that there are a lot of overseas operations, the Icelandic population is simply not big enough to have a big effect on the company's finances just because the company charges Icelanders in Icelandic Kr=na, all I ask is that until the inlation things here has risen in an equivalent manner as to how much the price of EVE time has been risen, they should try and keep the price fair. If no prices were to change except for milk which would suddenly rise to $20 a gallon, would you keep buying the milk just because it's charged for in a different currency, or would you drink something else instead? Edit: ADD: Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 14/10/2008 17:44:50 Why would they use the ISK instead of USD/EUR just because they have the head office over there in Iceland ? They pay for a big part of their expenses in ISK anyways.
Cpt Hound Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:50:00 - [21] Edited by: Cpt Hound on 14/10/2008 17:51:59 Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 14/10/2008 17:44:50 Originally by: Somal Thunder Why would they use your currency when CCP is not located in the country that uses it? Why would they use the ISK instead of USD/EUR just because they have the head office over there in Iceland ? P.S. Just for the record, I live in Romania, which is technically part of the EU already, even if we still have a different currency than the Euro. Pretty much every IT&telecom company charges in RON equivalent of fixed EUR prices, and before we were part of the EU they used to charge in RON equivalent of fixed USD prices. All I'm asking is this. It would by kind of CCP to charge us in krona for the time being, because of the situation here in Iceland. CCP employees are suffering just as much as the Icelandic players. It would be great if they would charge us in krona instead of euros until the economy of Iceland has recovered.
Dizeezer Velar Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:52:00 - [22] Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 14/10/2008 17:53:07 Originally by: Cpt Hound Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 14/10/2008 17:44:50 Originally by: Somal Thunder Why would they use your currency when CCP is not located in the country that uses it? Why would they use the ISK instead of USD/EUR just because they have the head office over there in Iceland ? P.S. Just for the record, I live in Romania, which is technically part of the EU already, even if we still have a different currency than the Euro. Pretty much every IT&telecom company charges in RON equivalent of fixed EUR prices, and before we were part of the EU they used to charge in RON equivalent of fixed USD prices. All I'm asking is this. It would by kind of CCP to charge us in krona for the time being, because of the situation here in Iceland. CCP employees are suffering just as much as the players. It would be great if they would charge us in krona instead of euros until the economy of Iceland has balanced again. This is reasonable, given the extreme circumstances of your economy and that CCP originated in Iceland. Would be a kind thing to do.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:52:00 - [23] Edited by: Akita T on 14/10/2008 17:52:55 Originally by: Somal Thunder Granted that there are a lot of overseas operations, the Icelandic population is simply not big enough to have a big effect on the company's finances just because the company charges Icelanders in Icelandic Kr=na, all I ask is that until the inlation things here has risen in an equivalent manner as to how much the price of EVE time has been risen, they should try and keep the price fair. Originally by: Cpt Hound All I'm asking is this. It would by kind of CCP to charge us in krona for the time being, because of the situation here in Iceland. CCP employees are suffering just as much as the Icelandic players. It would be great if they would charge us in krona instead of euros until the economy of Iceland has recovered. A lot of thigs lately (the GTC change, the ghost training thing, to name but the two most notable recent changes) were made to INCREASE the revenue. You might as well ask for free accounts for people in Iceland out of "patriotism" or somesuch. _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Sexiest Beast Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Cpt Hound All I'm asking is this. It would by kind of CCP to charge us in krona for the time being, because of the situation here in Iceland. CCP employees are suffering just as much as the players. It would be great if they would charge us in krona instead of euros until the economy of Iceland has balanced again. TINFOIL HAT
Cpt Hound Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Somal Thunder Granted that there are a lot of overseas operations, the Icelandic population is simply not big enough to have a big effect on the company's finances just because the company charges Icelanders in Icelandic Kr=na, all I ask is that until the inlation things here has risen in an equivalent manner as to how much the price of EVE time has been risen, they should try and keep the price fair. A lot of thigs lately (the GTC change, the ghost training thing, to name but the two most notable recent changes) were made to INCREASE the revenue. You might as well ask for free accounts for people in Iceland out of "patriotism" or somesuch. Akita, look at my answer above.
Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:55:00 - [26] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 14/10/2008 17:52:55 A lot of thigs lately (the GTC change, the ghost training thing, to name but the two most notable recent changes) were made to INCREASE the revenue. You might as well ask for free accounts for people in Iceland out of "patriotism" or somesuch. It's always to increase revenue, but exploiting an entire nation of EVE-Players hardly seems fair!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Cpt Hound Akita, look at my answer above. Same answer. WHY should they care ? CCP is a company. And as recent events have shown, an increasingly profit-oriented company. The recent trend was "more money for us". Are you expecting a sudden burst of charity because of one of their location (even if it's the "main" location) ? _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 17:57:00 - [28] Originally by: Somal Thunder Exploiting an entire nation of EVE-Players hardly seems fair! What about OTHER nations that had their coin tank with regards to the USD/EUR ? Aren't they "exploited" too ? How come you're not asking for simpathy for them ? _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:02:00 - [29] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Somal Thunder Exploiting an entire nation of EVE-Players hardly seems fair! What about OTHER nations that had their coin tank with regards to the USD/EUR ? Aren't they "exploited" too ? How come you're not asking for simpathy for them ? The currency they pay in can't be used to pay for company expenses. 1500 kr=nur actually means something here, while 20 rubels or whatever can't be used to purchase any product here.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:07:00 - [30] Originally by: Somal Thunder The currency they pay in can't be used to pay for company expenses. 1500 kr=nur actually means something here, while 20 rubels or whatever can't be used to purchase any product here. Yeah, but 15 euro is 15 euro no matter how you put it. So just pay the guys 15 euro like everybody else in the EU economic area regardless of their national coin. Oh, hey, look, you COULD have joined the EU already, but you didn't. You COULD have adopted the Euro, but you didn't. CCP could charge you in ISK instead of EUR, but it won't. End of story. _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix

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