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Thorkell
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:08:00 -
[91]
Sammßla, I Agree!
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Eshezo
Old Buggers
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:21:00 -
[92]
OK, if CCP did what your asking you would have GTC available on the web in Icelandic currency, Hmmmm lets think about that for a minute.
I buy a GTC in US dollars at the moment and suddenly I find I could buy it in Krona with my credit card and then when I get the bill it would be the reverse and my GTC would be alot cheaper than if I had bought in Dollars.
As many people have said , it's unfortunate that the exchange rate is not in your favour at the moment but it's not CCP's fault and they could possibly do it.
Not to say I'm not sympathetic to your situation but I think it's unrealstic.
rgds Eshezo
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:46:00 -
[93]
While it wouldnt be FAIR to let islµndinge (people from iceland) pay in their devalued kroner, i would say GO for it. show support to iceland, even though its their own fault that they are where they are!
You should never have left us, see where you are now.....
And lastly dont forget to check out the link in my signature..
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royal killer
Amarr
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.17 18:13:00 -
[94]
¦etta er or=i= bara allt of fßrßnlegt og ¦a= ÷murlega er a= ¦a= er ekkert miki= vi= ¦essu a= gera 
English: We're screwed.
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Sydonis
Caldari
Freelance Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2008.10.17 19:21:00 -
[95]
Speaking as a Brit here...
/signed
If CCP are paying wages in (RL) ISK, they could just as well charge the locals in the same... even if they just ask you to drop by and pay in cash once a month - they could use that cash to pay for the usual consumables like coffee, milk etc that an office uses... (Not sure how big Iceland is, so not sure how feasable that is, but I'm thinking that CCP will want to avoid using an Icelandic bank for a while, could be wrong though). Supporting the locals *could* be good PR for CCP though...
I'm still disappointed in the Icelandic bank's decision to freeze the UK accounts (not least the charities who can't access their money) and the subsequent (and typically bully-boy) behaviour from Brown. I know he was looking to safeguard UK citizens, but using anti-terror legislation scares me - especially now they're asking for permission to monitor ALL internet traffic... they just proved me that they can't be trusted ffs.
Don't worry guys, not all of use hate the Icelanders... I think I hate Brown far more... I, personally, don't recognise him as our leader until he's faced an election as a potential PM... he just backstabbed Blair (who I respected a bit) until he got power.
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Walter Model
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.10.18 00:51:00 -
[96]
Please CCP. Can we Icelanders pay our accounts and Fanfest ticket with Icelandic Krona?
It¦s getting out of control.
I used to pay my two accounts for 2000 kr. Now it¦s 4000 kr.
Fan fest ticket was 5500 kr year ago. Now it¦s 8500 kr.
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"If the tanks succeed, then victory follows.", Guderian, 1937.
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Xavier Zedicus
Zardoz Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.10.18 01:29:00 -
[97]
how awesome would it be if ccp did this and as a direct result the Icelandic currency righted itself.
All thanks to CCP.
awesome.
p.s.
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Ragon
Minmatar
Depleted Uranium
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Posted - 2008.10.18 10:27:00 -
[98]
 Originally by: Walter Model
Please CCP. Can we Icelanders pay our accounts and Fanfest ticket with Icelandic Krona?
It¦s getting out of control.
I used to pay my two accounts for 2000 kr. Now it¦s 4000 kr.
Fan fest ticket was 5500 kr year ago. Now it¦s 8500 kr.
It would be nice if we could buy the Fan Fest ticket with KR, the price is too high in $ atm.
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Tappits
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.18 11:08:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Somal Thunder
No, we do note blame CCP for anything, except not charging us in the local currency. How would you Americans like it if all car rentals only let you rent your cars with euros, and your dollar collapsed? You'd probably be pretty ****ed.
Just to let you in on something... people from the uk (me) have to pay for eve in $$$ (GTC) or euros (With CC) we cannot pay with úúú pounds (the uk money) and in the past year it now costs more because Pounds(ú) are worthless and euros cost more than thay did.
do you see us people from the UK posting topics about this? no why? because theres no point, we know the uk sucks and we just get on with it, so why dont you?
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Kur'Dekaija
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.18 13:09:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Tappits
Originally by: Somal Thunder
No, we do note blame CCP for anything, except not charging us in the local currency. How would you Americans like it if all car rentals only let you rent your cars with euros, and your dollar collapsed? You'd probably be pretty ****ed.
Just to let you in on something... people from the uk (me) have to pay for eve in $$$ (GTC) or euros (With CC) we cannot pay with úúú pounds (the uk money) and in the past year it now costs more because Pounds(ú) are worthless and euros cost more than thay did.
do you see us people from the UK posting topics about this? no why? because theres no point, we know the uk sucks and we just get on with it, so why dont you?
cuz we can throw eggs at CCP HQ.... allow me to pay in KR or Ill do it!!!!!!!!! I warn you, I got old eggs in my fridge!!
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j0rt
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.21 18:27:00 -
[101]
This thread is ridiculous.
The only person in the entire thread who isn't acting like a brainless ****posting 12 year old is the OP.
CCP is based in Iceland and therefore some of their expenses are in Icelandic Kr=na.
Now the local currency in Iceland has plummeted and CCP are almost untouched by it because their income is in foreign currency.
Us Icelandic Eve players are paying ridiculous amounts of money for playing Eve, just because this Icelandic MMO company is charging Icelandic players in an incredibly expensive foreign currency.
Surely there is reason to implement some way for Iceland residents to pay for gametime in the local currency, so our wallets aren't being slaughtered just by having a few Eve accounts.
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Karille
Gallente
Lordless
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Posted - 2008.11.21 18:56:00 -
[102]
I'm going to go out on a limb and say SITFU. |
Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.21 19:08:00 -
[103]
better ask why usa players pays cheaper than europeans. |
Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.11.21 19:14:00 -
[104]
Originally by: j0rt
This thread is ridiculous.
The only person in the entire thread who isn't acting like a brainless ****posting 12 year old is the OP.
CCP is based in Iceland and therefore some of their expenses are in Icelandic Kr=na.
Now the local currency in Iceland has plummeted and CCP are almost untouched by it because their income is in foreign currency.
Us Icelandic Eve players are paying ridiculous amounts of money for playing Eve, just because this Icelandic MMO company is charging Icelandic players in an incredibly expensive foreign currency.
Surely there is reason to implement some way for Iceland residents to pay for gametime in the local currency, so our wallets aren't being slaughtered just by having a few Eve accounts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you just have one or more years of cheap EVE thanks to a weak dollar vs a strong krona?
Where were the threads of "we want to support CCP, let us pay in krona!" at that time? |
oilio
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.21 20:15:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Somal Thunder
We, the Icelandic EVE-Online players, have decided to take this as a sign that CCP is effectively giving us the (middle) finger...
...price we are being charge is equivalent to a blow in the nuts towards our wallets.
CCP giving their customers the middle finger? Surely not! I mean... CCP NEVER give the middle finger to their playerbase...
...well, except for the T20 business...
...and the 60 day GTC thing...
...and the removal of the "Ghost Training" "Bug/exploit"...
...and the boot.ini business...
Asking CCP not to rip you off is like asking a skunk not to stink.
IT'S WHAT THEY DO!
Anyway, signing in support of the OP - for what good that will do. |
Adamant Stehl
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.11.21 20:21:00 -
[106]
/ signed!!
CCP support your home-base!!!
Before all else, be armed. Niccolo Machiavelli
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.11.21 20:49:00 -
[107]
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 21/11/2008 20:54:46
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 21/11/2008 20:52:34
Originally by: Somal Thunder
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
CCP is a global company, they charge in euros or usd just like other global companies. Just because they originated in iceland doesn't mean they are a local company. Their wanting people to pay in euros is not outrageous or unreasonable.
Most global companies actually charge their product based on where it is manufactured or where the service is provided. Hertz in America will charge you in dollars, Hertz in Germany will charge you in euros. Seeing as CCP does most of the actual developing in Iceland, I think it's only fair that they show the home team some support and let people pay for the game in the currency they use in most of their expenses.
The last sentence is where your logic unfortunately falls apart. The vast majority of CCP's expenses are in USD and EUR, not ISK.
Normally I only comment on software related issues on the forums, but this is local stuff so I'm going to make an exception.
Tranquility is in London, UK, and operating a big, internetworked computer cluster is really expensive. We have offices in Atlanta, USA, and Shanghai, China. We outsource a lot of our projects to companies all over the world, such as Germany, the Czech Republic and China. We buy a lot of the technology we use from companies all over the world, such as Australia, Canada and the USA.
Most of our expenses are not in ISK, and we really can't take the blame for the financial situation in Iceland or the devaluation of the kr=na. As CCP's CEO pointed out in his recent devblog, then CCP is fortunate enough to be well isolated from the current banking crisis.
To the OP: I feel your pain, I live here too. |
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Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2008.11.21 21:16:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Sydonis
Speaking as a Brit here...
/signed
If CCP are paying wages in (RL) ISK, they could just as well charge the locals in the same... even if they just ask you to drop by and pay in cash once a month - they could use that cash to pay for the usual consumables like coffee, milk etc that an office uses... (Not sure how big Iceland is, so not sure how feasable that is, but I'm thinking that CCP will want to avoid using an Icelandic bank for a while, could be wrong though). Supporting the locals *could* be good PR for CCP though...
I'm still disappointed in the Icelandic bank's decision to freeze the UK accounts (not least the charities who can't access their money) and the subsequent (and typically bully-boy) behaviour from Brown. I know he was looking to safeguard UK citizens, but using anti-terror legislation scares me - especially now they're asking for permission to monitor ALL internet traffic... they just proved me that they can't be trusted ffs.
Don't worry guys, not all of use hate the Icelanders... I think I hate Brown far more... I, personally, don't recognise him as our leader until he's faced an election as a potential PM... he just backstabbed Blair (who I respected a bit) until he got power.
Awesome, I personally would love to have to deal with 3000+ people constantly coming into the CCP headquarters to renew their gametime if I were an CCP employee. That wouldn't be a nightmare at all. |
Guth
Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.21 21:27:00 -
[109]
Please charge the userbase for time codes in ISK. For us elsewhere, that just means our monthly costs just get cheaper and cheaper!
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.11.21 21:56:00 -
[110]
Originally by: oilio
Asking CCP not to rip you off is like asking a skunk not to stink.
If you feel CCP doesn't give you value for money with EVE, why are you still subscribed?
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Skidd Chung
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2008.11.21 22:43:00 -
[111]
Sorry to hear the real ISK has lost it's value. I'm gonna be the devil here and ask if the EVE isk is worth more to you now?
Unfortunately asking CCP to lower the GTC price to the exact value of ISK before the economy crashed is just not logical. By doing so they are changing course to head down with the economy.
Again sorry to hear the economy of your country crashed, happen to mine before and took years to recover, but stronger now and will probably ride this one out without capitulating. |
Kuranta
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.11.21 23:08:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Akita T
Oh, hey, yeah, listen, I'm from Whereverthehellistan, and our national coin also suffered a big nosedive. We ALSO demand that CCP starts chargin us in OUR local currency at the prices we used to pay a year ago. Thank you for understanding.
This tbh. The situation in Iceland (and the whole world for that matter) is unfortunate
But even when living in Iceland, you are not special.
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oilio
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.21 23:35:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: oilio
Asking CCP not to rip you off is like asking a skunk not to stink.
If you feel CCP doesn't give you value for money with EVE, why are you still subscribed?
Cancelled
Will be suspended 27/12/2008
Just waiting for sub to run out  |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.11.21 23:38:00 -
[114]
Originally by: oilio
Cancelled
Will be suspended 27/12/2008
Just waiting for sub to run out
Can I have a christmas present of all your stuff?  |
Troye
Gallente
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.11.21 23:43:00 -
[115]
Originally by: oilio
Originally by: Elaron
Cancelled
Will be suspended 27/12/2008
Just waiting for sub to run out
Grats, good luck finding a game that lets you paye in Krona... |
Troye
Gallente
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.11.21 23:51:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Sydonis
I'm still disappointed in the Icelandic bank's decision to freeze the UK accounts (not least the charities who can't access their money).
Not to mention my my University (Aberystwyth) which is down 4 million pounds this year thanks to Iceland freezing UK accounts, Brown did what any Icelander would have done for Iceland, people just scream at the injustice of it because the UKs a richer country, even though right now its as ****ed as the rest of the world.
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oilio
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.22 01:14:00 -
[117]
No, you can't have my stuff, Chaos 
Maybe CCP's overall service and approach will improve - in which case I might come back.
I am not looking for a company that allows me to pay in Krona, I won't be playing any other MMORPG until jumpgate comes out. The only other MMORPG I would play is eve, but I'm not prepared to pay CCP as they are now. I'll just play stuff like Team Fortress and America's Army - stuff that doesn't require a regular subscription. |
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.22 01:45:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 22/11/2008 01:46:56
I'd rather buy gametime with Kronenbourg.
Linkage
Fetchez la vache !
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Karasuma Akane
Dirty Sexy Pilots
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Posted - 2008.11.22 03:35:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Mhaerdirne Solveig
they should offer the krona rate only to those who show up in person at the office to pay for the account and have icelandic addresses :)
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
I'd rather buy gametime with Kronenbourg. Linkage
I'm sure that if Icelanders showed up at the CCP offices to pay for their accounts with alcohol, some sort of deal could be worked out.
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"annoyed trit bars can deliver quite an income"
Originally by: Richard Phallus
Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
damn spies.
Damn counter intelligence officers.
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Zaptwig
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Posted - 2008.11.22 04:33:00 -
[120]
Explorer speaks the truth.
If the going rate for one month of game time is $15 USD, its $15 USD. If your country's currency has devalued, bad luck.
Asking for the price to be 'fair' shows a serious misunderstanding of global economics. If you want to pay for your gametime in Kroner, CCP will STILL charge you the equivalent of $15 USD (at current exchange rates approx. 2,916.20 ISK). Either way, YOU ARE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT!
Look at it from CCP's perspective: if they charge you 1500 ISK like you're asking, they're effectively charging you $7.72 for the same service the rest of us pay $15 for. I live in Australia: what you're asking for is the equivalent of me saying 'I should be able to pay $15 AUD/month to play', when $15 AUD = $9.25 USD.
Would it be awesome for me to get cheap EVE? Of course.
Is it fair to charge people by their national currency? That's irrelevant.
Does it make any kind of business sense to charge me, or the OP, less than other customers?
You work it out.
tl;dr: global financial crises suck. Deal with it.
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