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Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.15 22:51:00 - [1] Any word from CCP staffers as to how many accounts have been canceled in the last 2 days? I know I streamlined my accounts a bit. "Arte et Marte"
Xailz Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.10.15 22:56:00 - [2] Doubt the effect will be immediate as people paying by card wont be effected by this change (as they run the accounts all the time) so will be a little while before we see the impact of this imo Xailz
Dmian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.15 22:58:00 - [3] Originally by: Xailz so will be a little while before we see the impact of this imo You mean less lag? Whohoo! \/ ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.10.15 22:58:00 - [4] to be honest I doubt they will lose much money over this anyway or even accounts, they are more likely to lose accounts due tot he fact they increased game time cards and the fact more people are being more careful with there spending Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Estel Arador Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:01:00 - [5] I activated my account today
Gonada Priory Of The Lemon	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:03:00 - [6] hey OP, i dont think yuo streamlined enough. quit allready you cheapskate whiner. getting something for free has changed , live with it. Please, jump into traffic
Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:03:00 - [7] Originally by: Xailz Doubt the effect will be immediate as people paying by card wont be effected by this change (as they run the accounts all the time) so will be a little while before we see the impact of this imo Xailz I payed all my accounts by Credit Card, was easy as pie to cancel a few, and even filled in the why are you canceling box as to the reason. So CCP has a good grasp of how many accounts they have lost due to recent changes, and I will bet you the numbers are updated hourly for a select few staff members. "Arte et Marte"
Dmian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Mordrake ...and I will bet you the numbers are updated hourly for a select few staff members. And you believe they are going to share that data with everybody? ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
Xailz Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:05:00 - [9] Originally by: sableye to be honest I doubt they will lose much money over this anyway or even accounts, they are more likely to lose accounts due tot he fact they increased game time cards and the fact more people are being more careful with there spending Do you not feel this causes a knock on effect to this ? people are watching their spending so one month they activate one account and inactive another training a lonnngg skill then reactivate it when they have the spare funds When 60 day GTCs were first released this caused a big problem for using this method as now you had two months to find short skills to train instead of just one (so effectively your paying for twice as many months) imo this was enough to encourage people to stop using this method so... without ghost training many people will look at this previously used method (I've used it before) and say well whats the point if im gonna lose out on it? and sell/inactive the account Xailz
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:06:00 - [10] i doubt it many we havnt seen the fish tank go for sale yet when that happens eve is going with it !!!! The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ

Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Gonada hey OP, i dont think yuo streamlined enough. quit allready you cheapskate whiner. getting something for free has changed , live with it. Simple fact is when I go fight for my country I have no access to the ability to change skill training, the removed feature was a big selling point to justification of multiple accounts. in language that may be easier for you to understand: NO, U!!oneeleven "Arte et Marte"
Caiman Graystock Comrades in Construction Anarchy.	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:08:00 - [12] It's probably about 15. A lot of lying trolls on these forums.
Xailz Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Gonada hey OP, i dont think yuo streamlined enough. quit allready you cheapskate whiner. getting something for free has changed , live with it. Way to be constructive Originally by: Mordrake Originally by: Xailz Doubt the effect will be immediate as people paying by card wont be effected by this change (as they run the accounts all the time) so will be a little while before we see the impact of this imo Xailz I payed all my accounts by Credit Card, was easy as pie to cancel a few, and even filled in the why are you canceling box as to the reason. So CCP has a good grasp of how many accounts they have lost due to recent changes, and I will bet you the numbers are updated hourly for a select few staff members. Understood but more people are paying by ETC then Credit Card is my point so it will be time before they realize how many more inactive accounts are added to the list people aren't just going to waste game time they have paid for and cancel before the time is up Xailz
Mashie Saldana Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Mordrake Simple fact is when I go fight for my country I have no access to the ability to change skill training, the removed feature was a big selling point to justification of multiple accounts. And exactly how is it easier to change skills on inactive accounts compared to active accounts when you are away?
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:13:00 - [15] i think this post is just for the op to see ( as he moves with the hurd) to find out how many people are leaving to justify weather he should himself leave or ask for peoples stuffs >_> ( can never go and earn it yourselves always give give give ) The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ
Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Caiman Graystock It's probably about 15. A lot of lying trolls on these forums. Hope you are correct, love this game despite frequent and varied foopas by staffers in community relations, is why I would like to know the info up front and honest. "Arte et Marte"
Xailz Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Mordrake Simple fact is when I go fight for my country I have no access to the ability to change skill training, the removed feature was a big selling point to justification of multiple accounts. And exactly how is it easier to change skills on inactive accounts compared to active accounts when you are away? because he doesn't? did you read? he can set a long skill in training which means less time is lost while he cant access the game Xailz
Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Mordrake Simple fact is when I go fight for my country I have no access to the ability to change skill training, the removed feature was a big selling point to justification of multiple accounts. And exactly how is it easier to change skills on inactive accounts compared to active accounts when you are away? Step 1: I will be gone for 6 to 8 months Step 2: Cancel TV, all extra non-critical services which I will not use while away from home (EVE Online) Step 2: Ensure will and all paperwork up to date, give power of attorney to relative Step 4: Don't get killed Step 5: On reactivation enjoy a brand new Level 5 skill Comprende Amigo? "Arte et Marte"
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:20:00 - [19] Edited by: Armoured C on 15/10/2008 23:20:36 ZOMG this has turned into a secret underground lair of the ghost training whinage halp get me out of here and moredrake please dont get killed watch your back out there i have a uncle who gone out.. i worry alot The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:23:00 - [20] Edited by: Zeba on 15/10/2008 23:23:34 Originally by: Mordrake Originally by: Caiman Graystock It's probably about 15. A lot of lying trolls on these forums. Hope you are correct, love this game despite frequent and varied foopas by staffers in community relations, is why I would like to know the info up front and honest. Pro-tip: If you want to enjoy Eve to the fullest and always have a happy day in it (sans getting your untanked t1 hauler filled with all your evely posessions blown up at a camp) then *Never Ever* read the forums. Eve will feel so much moar dynamic and exciting then.* *unless of course your a forum warrior type and enjoy the extension of pvp and mind games onto the boards then by all means poast away! inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan

Dmian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Xailz he can set a long skill in training which means less time is lost while he cant access the game Well, I can't play Eve at work, and I don't cancel my account at 9:00am and resubscribe at 6:00pm. That's none of CCP's business. Either you have an active account and play/train skills/whatever or you're not playing/training/whatever and cancel your account, in which case your playing state "freezes" until you resume your gaming. ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:25:00 - [22] I don't think any one thing is going to make a huge dent in the EVE subscriberbase. However, within the last couple months they have crippled GTCs, many people are angry over the nano changes, and now ghost accounts... Those three things in such a short timespan may not kill eve, but they will hurt a lot. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't mater to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Zeba *unless of course your a forum warrior type and enjoy the extension of pvp and mind games onto the boards then by all means poast away![/i] grabs sword and shield The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ
Dmian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:29:00 - [24] Edited by: Dmian on 15/10/2008 23:29:55 Originally by: Mordrake ...Step 2: Cancel TV, all extra non-critical services which I will not use while away from home (EVE Online)... ...Step 5: On reactivation enjoy a brand new Level 5 skill... Yeah, but you can't record the TV when you cancel it and enjoy the new season of "My name is Earl" when you return... Sorry Mordrake, no mean to offend you. I know you're serving your country and hope you return home safe (take care there!), but understand that CCP is a company, and they make their living selling this service, and it's totally understandable that they want people to pay for it if they are getting something out of it. ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
ISpam OHHAYGUYS	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:30:00 - [25] Getting something for free isnt what its about
Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:30:00 - [26] Originally by: Zeba *unless of course your a forum warrior type and enjoy the extension of pvp and mind games onto the boards then by all means poast away! The extent of my forum PVP is the occasional anti BOB poetry... look it up if you don't believe me! But thanks for the tip ; ] "Arte et Marte"
Dmian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:32:00 - [27] Originally by: ISpam Getting something for free isnt what its about What? You don't make mistakes? A company can't change their minds about a mistake that probable is embarrasing for them? Pffff! Grow up. ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
TYCONDEROGA Amarr EMPERIAL ARMOR	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:33:00 - [28] Originally by: Gonada hey OP, i dont think yuo streamlined enough. quit allready you cheapskate whiner. getting something for free has changed , live with it. /thread He who defends Everything, Defends Nothing!
Mordrake Orbital Anvil Technologies	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Dmian Edited by: Dmian on 15/10/2008 23:29:55 Originally by: Mordrake ...Step 2: Cancel TV, all extra non-critical services which I will not use while away from home (EVE Online)... ...Step 5: On reactivation enjoy a brand new Level 5 skill... Yeah, but you can't record the TV when you cancel it and enjoy the new season of "My name is Earl" when you return... Sorry Mordrake, no mean to offend you. I know you're serving your country and hope you return home safe (take care there!), but understand that CCP is a company, and they make their living selling this service, and it's totally understandable that they want people to pay for it if they are getting something out of it. 2 words "Re-runs" and "PVR" But I see the reasoning behind the move CCP has made, I just do not agree with it due to my personal choices in this incarnation. "Arte et Marte"
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.15 23:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Xailz Do you not feel this causes a knock on effect to this ? people are watching their spending so one month they activate one account and inactive another training a lonnngg skill then reactivate it when they have the spare funds Cancelling ghost training would reduce the number of active accounts for such a person by exactly nil. It would have no effect at all. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."



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