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Brigsby5987 Caldari 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.10.17 02:10:00 - [61] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Shitty Troll. Please DIAF. kthx _______________________________________ Sig? where. There's no sig here.
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2008.10.17 02:20:00 - [62] Replying in this thread just for the title "Carebear Rise" The removal of "Ghost Training"
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.10.17 02:22:00 - [63] For realz! there hasn't been an extremely PVP focused expansion in like........oh wait! -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Vasili vonHolst Minmatar Gargamel's Lair	Posted - 2008.10.17 04:37:00 - [64] op gets a cookie... The Title loled me --->Movie: + Trillion damage to CareBear community--->M1tn4L?
CHAOS100 Black Plague.	Posted - 2008.10.17 05:08:00 - [65] I don't really care about new pvp 'features'. I just want new (pvp) ships that are worth flying. Normally CCP implements some change that adds more months to skill training. --------------
C4LYP50 HeXstoof	Posted - 2008.10.17 06:41:00 - [66] Originally by: Lando Paladin Originally by: Piper Halliwell stuff ok, let me get this straight. you "welcome the speed nerf because freighters in high sec will be easier of targets". yes, those cheeky nano freighters. a hundred million ton flying brick literally CANING IT along so fast at a mind boggling 100m/s your bullets just can't catch up!!! I mean us indy pilots are literally THROWING OUR RATTLES OUT OF THE PRAM at the future inability to nano-fit the badger. /Off Topic: Just wanted to say thanks for this. Funniest zinger I've read all day, brought tears to my eyes. Truth articulated with humour. /On Topic: I think industrialists sorely needed this lovin'. While I don't do it myself, I'd certainly not begrudge an expansion that makes the game more enjoyable for those who work hard so I can mission / pew pew. Good onya, CCP. Brunette By Birth...........Blonde By Nature. ------------------------------------------------ "Your suffering will be legendary, even in Hell." "No tears, please; it's a waste of good suffering."
Maglorre	Posted - 2008.10.17 06:57:00 - [67] Originally by: Margot Fortain Perhaps you are too accustomed to being spoilt by regular free expansions aimed at you that you have forgotten how to share? I understand, I realy do, my children often have to readust after visiting thier grandparents, takes some time for them to remember the planet does not revolve around them Madam, That is just an awesome response. As the father of twin boys myself with a Grandmother that spoils them rotten this statement just rings so true it's scary and funny all at the same time. Reminds me of an incident last night where an alliance member entered local and asked if anyone was ratting. 2 people replied in the affirmative (system has 16 or so belts), one of them being me, he then exclaimed about not being able to find a system that wasn't "reserved". This struck me as quite odd and I replied to the effect that "reserving" a system for yourself to rat in was for the people that never learned to play nice and share with the other children when they were younger. Anyway, thanks for the laugh Cheers
Maglorre	Posted - 2008.10.17 07:03:00 - [68] Originally by: Eran Laude Call me Ishmael, Orca-hunter. HAHA !! Someone email Lisento Slaven to tell him that SPACE WHALES are being added to the game at last !!!
DjLowballer Amarr FLASHTROOPER CORP	Posted - 2008.10.17 07:08:00 - [69] Ummm I still don¦t understand why I am a carebear. I mine in 0.0 and haul stuff to empire. Thats game enough in itself. How is escaping people shooting at you worse than shooting at people who are afk and can¦t shoot back at you? Furthermore, why is carebear a dirty word? Carebears work hard to make the world a better place for everyone. I mean read this: Originally by: wikipedia Friend Bear is a kind and friendly bear who shows what it means to be a good friend. She is orange with two intertwined smiling flowers on her tummy. Showing what it means to be a good friend? Smiling tummy flowers? I for one would love to have them come down from their big happy cloud fortress more often.
MrChook Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.17 07:11:00 - [70] I don't like the word "carebear". I much prefer to be called a Womble.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2008.10.17 07:54:00 - [71] Originally by: CHAOS100 I don't really care about new pvp 'features'. I just want new (pvp) ships that are worth flying. Normally CCP implements some change that adds more months to skill training. Eff that, fix the ones already in the game first. Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today!!!
ThaDollaGenerale The Priory	Posted - 2008.10.17 08:12:00 - [72] I'm a pvper but without the indie pukes we wouldn't have anything to pvp with. Sometimes PvP needs to take a backseat.
Darken Two Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.10.17 08:27:00 - [73] Originally by: Piper Halliwell Originally by: Makhan Edited by: Makhan on 16/10/2008 16:56:06 Bugger off, PvP has accounted for 90% of the previous expansions, it's more than time we had industry improvements. Of those 90% "expansions" included hundreds of nerfs to protect you carebears in your little sandbox. I for one welcome the speed nerf so you lazy Industrialist that autopilot your freighters in high sec will be that much easier of targets!! Yes it is still possible to kill you lazy **s. I think it is funny that all the carebear tears end up coming back to haunt them. The very thing they whine for ends up biting them in the ing as....can you guys say gate guns. Do you actually play eve? Your post makes no sense........Nano Freighters??? Originally by:** Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Aliedora	Posted - 2008.10.17 08:31:00 - [74] BLUUUUUBIEEEEES!
Metal Monster	Posted - 2008.10.17 08:32:00 - [75] Omg..... One expansion for pve and you cry.... With no pve... there is no pvp, get it ? If you dont i cant help you.
Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.10.17 08:37:00 - [76] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Those ships and modules you fly with don't come under a Christmas tree in stockings, industry is a major part of the game because without industry you have nothing to fly. The "carebear" side of EVE has been long neglected and has needed a major spice up. I got nothing out of FW but there are indirect benefits of an expansion. EVE expansions are largely just content upgrades, there is typically not a whole lot of content in them and even though they are free, I'd rather pay to have a good deal of content added rather than paying nothing but getting very little.
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.17 08:57:00 - [77] Couple of things i'd like to say here: 1. To all the carebears in this thread that keep saying industry is PvP as well: it's not. By PvP people in eve mean combat. It's only with the recent burst of more bears joining EVE that they have started twisting this word to fit their own actions. In the future instead of saying PvP, please say tradecombat or industrialwars. Before this first point gets smacked: I'm not saying the concept PvP isn't industry, im saying in eve people mean combat, eg shooting ships. Otherwise you can claim everything in eve is pvp. Like jumping your shuttle into Jita is PvP, cus you're basically generating more lag preventing people from fighting efficiently bla bla. 2. I'm not against an industrial patch. They deserve some love as well. What i am against is the fact that it is mostly a bearpatch meaning it contains hardly any stuff that's gonna drive industrialists to venture into more dangerous space or actions. All this patch is gonna do is make high sec bearing more appealing with brighter newer features. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:07:00 - [78] Originally by: Mostly Amazing 1. To all the carebears in this thread that keep saying industry is PvP as well: it's not. By PvP people in eve mean combat. This is incorrect. In ≡v≡ PvP means player versus player, and can be done in a number of ways. Quote: Otherwise you can claim everything in eve is pvp. Guess what? Everything in ≡v≡ is PvP (except maybe missions, but they have some PvP elements thrown in too). That's what makes ≡v≡ a full-PvP game.
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:10:00 - [79] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Mostly Amazing 1. To all the carebears in this thread that keep saying industry is PvP as well: it's not. By PvP people in eve mean combat. This is incorrect. In ≡v≡ PvP means player versus player, and can be done in a number of ways. Quote: Otherwise you can claim everything in eve is pvp. Guess what? Everything in ≡v≡ is PvP (except maybe missions, but they have some PvP elements thrown in too). That's what makes ≡v≡ a full-PvP game. This.
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:13:00 - [80] <3 these threads every 6 months. __________________
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:15:00 - [81] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Mostly Amazing 1. To all the carebears in this thread that keep saying industry is PvP as well: it's not. By PvP people in eve mean combat. This is incorrect. In ≡v≡ PvP means player versus player, and can be done in a number of ways. Quote: Otherwise you can claim everything in eve is pvp. Guess what? Everything in ≡v≡ is PvP (except maybe missions, but they have some PvP elements thrown in too). That's what makes ≡v≡ a full-PvP game. Reread my post.I didn't say industry isn't PvP. I'm saying it is, because you can consider nearly every action in EVE as PvP since it will have an effect on other players. But in EVE when people talk about PvP, they mean combat. This is the case in pretty much every mmo. Bears are using the term pvp everywhere now to justify their career as being pvp as well. When people say they are "going to pvp a bit", most people assume combat, and not docking in a station and changing your buy orders. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:17:00 - [82] Originally by: Kappas. <3 these threads every 6 months. They are truely amazing indeed. Remember when CCP rolled our Emperyan age? "OHNOES IT'S A CAREBEAR EXPANSION"
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:27:00 - [83] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Reread my post.I didn't say industry isn't PvP. Ehm… lessehere: Originally by: Mostly Amazing To all the carebears in this thread that keep saying industry is PvP as well: it's not. …yes you did. Quote: But in EVE when people talk about PvP, they mean combat. This is the case in pretty much every mmo. It may be the case in pretty much every MMO, but not in ≡v≡. That's what makes it different.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:38:00 - [84] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Originally by: Tippia ... Reread my post.I didn't say industry isn't PvP. I'm saying it is, because you can consider nearly every action in EVE as PvP since it will have an effect on other players. But in EVE when people talk about PvP, they mean combat. This is the case in pretty much every mmo. Bears are using the term pvp everywhere now to justify their career as being pvp as well. When people say they are "going to pvp a bit", most people assume combat, and not docking in a station and changing your buy orders. So "bears" are not "people"? Right, somebody call the loony bin for this one. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:39:00 - [85] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Mostly Amazing To all the carebears in this thread that keep saying industry is PvP as well: it's not. àyes you did. It's called reading an entire post. If you look at the paragraph below it you'll see I am talking about the 'word' PvP as it's used in EVE and not the concept. Learn to read or stop posting. Originally by: Tippia Quote: But in EVE when people talk about PvP, they mean combat. This is the case in pretty much every mmo. It may be the case in pretty much every MMO, but not in ≡v≡. That's what makes it different. It's exactly the same in EVE. You bears are just trying to call your own career PvP to justify it as 'combat', which its not, because all you do is mine roids, dock, and make sell orders with hardly any interaction with the rest of EVE eating up precious bandwidth causing lag :) Again, learn to read or stop posting. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:43:00 - [86] Risin' up, back in the space Did my time, took my chances Went the distance, now I'm back in my ship Just a bear and his will to survive So many times, it happens too fast You loose your ship without glory Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past You must grind just to keep them alive
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.17 09:48:00 - [87] Originally by: Mostly Amazing It's exactly the same in EVE. You bears are just trying to call your own career PvP to justify it as 'combat', which its not, because all you do is mine roids, dock, and make sell orders with hardly any interaction with the rest of EVE eating up precious bandwidth causing lag :) Again, learn to read or stop posting. Do you know, i don't think i've ever had lag mining or trading. On the otherhand, i experience lots of it pvping. If anything it's the pvpers who should leave, as they clearly cause the most lag
Kransthow The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.17 10:42:00 - [88] Edited by: Kransthow on 17/10/2008 10:44:34 Carebear: AHHH PVP IS EVIL MAKE IT GO AWAY. Industrialist: War is good for business, and business is good. Pvper: Killing you is a good enough reason for killing you. Remember the difference and you are guranteed to never make a post as fail as the op. Terms and conditions apply, consult your doctor beforehand
Sidus Isaacs	Posted - 2008.10.17 10:44:00 - [89] Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 17/10/2008 10:44:14 Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. lol PvP tears. PvP is dependant of carebears, or rhater, industrialists. And most folk actually do both. So go whine in you corner now :P
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.17 10:58:00 - [90] Originally by: Mostly Amazing It's called reading an entire post. If you look at the paragraph below it you'll see I am talking about the 'word' PvP as it's used in EVE and not the concept. You see, I did, and it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. PvP in ≡v≡ extends to more than blowing stuff up, even in every-day, non-conceptual, "just as a word" use. Quote: It's exactly the same in EVE. You bears are just trying to call your own career PvP to justify it as 'combat', which its not …and you would know this if you actually played the game and looked at the conversations going on (which, incidentally, would allow you to avoid making as uninformed statemens as the in that last quote). No, the bears do not justify their careers as combat. Neither do the industrialists or the traders. The latter two, however, do call their activities PvP (which is not the same thing as combat). So I think I'll fall back on a good old tu quoque: how about if you play the game, or otherwise STFU and stop posting.

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