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Aliedora	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:26:00 - [1] Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument.
Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:27:00 - [2] Edited by: Letouk Mernel on 16/10/2008 14:28:08 As a PVP'er you get to hunt Orcas and pad your killboard scores with "capital ship kills", what more can you ask for?
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:28:00 - [3] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Ill pay you 2 isk for your pvp tears. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Confuzer Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:28:00 - [4] Sure, so, what did the previous patches do for carebears? Didn't you read the logs, about the patch being for industrialists, traders, etc this time? Can you understand that we (or at least, my alts) want features too? ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved.
fivetide humidyear Gallente EXCESS10N	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:32:00 - [5] Edited by: fivetide humidyear on 16/10/2008 14:32:51 everyone has to do logistics to fight this patch should make it easier to get stuff therefore less time (and ISK) spent on procuring and moving ships therefore more time to pew pew (and new stuff to explode) therefore all good (except nano stuffs) rabble rabble EDIT - please let one freighter / industrial move rigged ships. please
Zhenga Black Thorn Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:33:00 - [6] IBTL
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:34:00 - [7] One single expansion for industrialists and the wannabe pvp'ers are all crying...
Karl Mattar Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Yeah, it's just you. I'm looking forward to the expansion. And no, not a carebear.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. you might be right, but out of all the EVE expansions to date, how many have NOT been PvP oriented? how many have been geared towards industrialists or carebears? seriously, grow up. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
CharlieMurphy Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:39:00 - [10] Quote: "We are very proud to be delivering this expansion, both in terms of features and the sheer performance increases made possible by deep refactoring of selected portions of our network and server code, complimented with the finest hardware we could find," says Torfi Frans +lafsson, Senior Producer of EVE Online. "I can't imagine a better game where you can engage hundreds of people simultaneously in highly immersive tactical combat or simply sit back and make millions off of the conflict via research, manufacturing or logistics. You choose your destiny; that's the beauty of it." What more could any pvper ask for? they are going ot fix the lag... honest... no really the lag will be fixed
Margot Fortain Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:41:00 - [11] You do realise that pretty much everything you fly and blow up is built by Industrialists yes? Would it kill you to begrudgingly acknowledge that an occational new feature for them will not ruin your EVE experience. Perhaps you are too accustomed to being spoilt by regular free expansions aimed at you that you have forgotten how to share? I understand, I realy do, my children often have to readust after visiting thier grandparents, takes some time for them to remember the planet does not revolve around them
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.16 14:41:00 - [12] CCP's already mentioned that some upcoming patches will give some love for the industry types. Fine by me, as others have said they've got **** all for attention in the last bunch of patches. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:19:00 - [13] Did someone actually think an "industrial expansion" would bring more pew to the party? And weapon stacking is certainly pewpew. Or pew. Or pe. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Margot Fortain You do realise that pretty much everything you fly and blow up is built by Industrialists yes? Would it kill you to begrudgingly acknowledge that an occational new feature for them will not ruin your EVE experience. You're asking a lot from someone who can't even distinguish between industrialists and "carebears".
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Catherine Frasier You're asking a lot from someone who can't even distinguish between industrialists and "carebears". I was going to post something about OP crying on the forums about him being a noob and needing to shoot at carebears or whatever and then I read Catherine Frasier's comment and lolled. The truth is so cruel Farjung is my God You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Confuzer Sure, so, what did the previous patches do for carebears? Didn't you read the logs, about the patch being for industrialists, traders, etc this time? Can you understand that we (or at least, my alts) want features too? Yeah but it's hard for people like him to understand. If he realised that other people have feelings and wasn't so selfish he probably wouldn't be such a hard nut in the first place. You can't expect much more than me-me-me-me from people like that. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Alex Salas BROTHERHOOD OF SPARTA Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Catherine Frasier You're asking a lot from someone who can't even distinguish between industrialists and "carebears". In certain player circles carebears is a derogatory term for anyone engaged in activities outside PVP. Unfair? Maybe but it is what it is. ___ EVE lies...rotating FTL!!! http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=99 On the Serenity server, skills no longer train when the owning account is deactivated. Tranqu
Melangell	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:45:00 - [18] reads announcement reads OP So the lag reduction is only for the carebears? Makes sense. I guess they are going to implement a special lag flag if you don't run missions in highsec while crying.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Alex Salas In certain player circles carebears is a derogatory term for anyone engaged in activities outside PVP. Yep, and expecting one of them to "begrudgingly acknowledge that an occational new feature for industrialists will not ruin your EVE experience" is asking a lot. It's not impossible, like asking one of them to close their mouth while they breathe, but still, it's asking a lot.
Banana Torres Look Ma I did a Test	Posted - 2008.10.16 15:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Aliedora is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Yep, just you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Xori Ruscuv The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:06:00 - [21] I am a PVPer, and I approve this expansion. Bleh, seriously, who cares. Everyone needs to 'get theirs'. Long needed content, imo.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Alex Salas Originally by: Catherine Frasier You're asking a lot from someone who can't even distinguish between industrialists and "carebears". In certain player circles carebears is a derogatory term for anyone engaged in activities outside PVP. Unfair? Maybe but it is what it is. agreed, but given that even industry/trading in EVE is PvP-based (and i don't mean PvP-dependent, i mean that there are struggles between players in virtually all areas of EVE, not just in traditional pewpew) then doesn't that comment still apply? to me a carebear is someone that ONLY runs missions and never leaves Empire and who would, literally or metaphorically, cry upon losing a ship to another player. that's not, by any stretch of the imagination, necessarily a true or reasonable description for an industrialist. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Last expansion where for PvPers when Empyrean Age where launched. And before that we have had many other very PvP related expansions. So I am more then sure you will survive an expansions for industrialists. Because you see, EVE is not just a PvP game! it is a sandbox game! And in such a game you can do everything! Including shooting people, but also building stuff! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. it is just me, but are all the previous expansions 90% useless to those who carebear? --------- I JUST FOUND THE GAME!
Nathair Nimheil Gaidhlig Technology	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:18:00 - [25] Originally by: Aliedora weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Says you! I've been ~~whining~~ asking for that for years.
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Letouk Mernel Edited by: Letouk Mernel on 16/10/2008 14:28:08 As a PVP'er you get to hunt Orcas and pad your killboard scores with "capital ship kills", what more can you ask for? Call me Ishmael, Orca-hunter.
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Aliedora Announcing EVE Online: Carebear Rise is it just me, but is this exansion completely useless for everyone who is NOT a carebear? weapon grouping doesn't count, it's too small of a feature to consider a serious argument. Relax, it's just yet another "biggest expansion ever" with a handful of shiny new things, 50 new bugs and otherwise nothing worthwhile, but with bombastic marketing and a cool promo vid. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:28:00 - [28] Originally by: Pan Crastus Relax, it's just yet another "biggest expansion ever" with a handful of shiny new things, 50 new bugs and otherwise nothing worthwhile, but with bombastic marketing and a cool promo vid. Yeah, I hope the new Tech 2 Cynicism implants come out in this expansion too!
Malcanis RuffRyders	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Xori Ruscuv I am a PVPer, and I approve this expansion. Bleh, seriously, who cares. Everyone needs to 'get theirs'. Long needed content, imo. This.
Challis Caldari Omega Sector	Posted - 2008.10.16 16:48:00 - [30] If there wherent any carebears in eve, wed all have to go play WOW. This would be in everyones disadvantage :)

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