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Padanemi	Posted - 2008.10.17 12:23:00 - [1] EVE must be the ONLY MMO game that does not support parallel training of all accounts. Since the training model is designed based on real time passing, and thus has HUGE training time for advanced skills, and incorporates offline skill training to counterbalance the length of the time needed to pass for these skills, we should be given the ability to have ALL THREE of the characters that each account can have under it be trainable at the same time (in parallel). This proposal will: a) Might stop the deletion of alt accounts under the withdrawal of the ghost-training feature. b) Generate immediate income from the character transfers. c) Rectify a long-existing grievance against multi-character players.
Che Biko Polytechnique Gallenteenne	Posted - 2008.10.17 12:42:00 - [2] Edited by: Che Biko on 17/10/2008 12:42:21 Actually, without this, I'll probably keep 2 empty character slots until my first one is finished training, which will take about....forever. I'd love to build a new character, but not if it slows the progress of this one. What's the point of having 2 extra slots if you can only develop one character at a time? And my communist attitude prohibits me from taking another account, just to 'enable skill training'. I will not take another account until I've filled all my character slots, but seeing as that will take forever... Fully supported!
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes	Posted - 2008.10.17 15:38:00 - [3] It still comes down to fixing a side effect of the skillsystem, if you take this idea a bit further to allow you to dictate where your training resources go it may help the new players as well. With that I mean with that: 1. allow 3 characters to be trained on a single account at normal speed 2. allow 1 character to be trained at 3 times the speed (this to accomedate players like me who like to operate from a single identity instead of detaching your ingame self even more by having mulitple characters to enjoy all content). - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
Tempest Inferno Davy Jones Locker Einherjar Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.17 15:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Che Biko Edited by: Che Biko on 17/10/2008 12:42:21 Actually, without this, I'll probably keep 2 empty character slots until my first one is finished training, which will take about....forever. I'd love to build a new character, but not if it slows the progress of this one. What's the point of having 2 extra slots if you can only develop one character at a time? And my communist attitude prohibits me from taking another account, just to 'enable skill training'. I will not take another account until I've filled all my character slots, but seeing as that will take forever... Fully supported! I believe minimum time for all skills Lvl 5 is between 22 and 25 years. I can understand somewhat how this would make it easier for the character farmers to operate but at the same time it hinders us casual players. We can't log in both characters at the same time so please let us train them at the same time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes	Posted - 2008.10.17 15:43:00 - [5] - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
Rezerwowy Pies Sadistic Influence	Posted - 2008.10.17 15:45:00 - [6]
procurement specialist	Posted - 2008.10.17 16:16:00 - [7] why not?
Mynxee Hellcats Doom Armada	Posted - 2008.10.17 20:05:00 - [8] Makes sense to allow all three to train at once. After all, you can't PLAY them all at once, so what's the problem? If people do things ingame that require two characters to be logged in at once, they'll have two accounts either way. I don't see how CCP would lose much by doing this. It might possibly dilute the value of characters sold via the forums...but that affects only players. Big deal. Life in Low Sec \| Hellcats
Odetta Harpy	Posted - 2008.10.17 21:51:00 - [9]
ian666 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN	Posted - 2008.10.17 22:04:00 - [10]
Ess Erbe GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.17 23:46:00 - [11] Supporting this. As it has been said, we cannot play two (or three) characters on the same account at once, so for dualboxing (or more) you'd still need other accounts. Giving a person the ability to train all characters on their account at once is long overdue.
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.18 01:03:00 - [12] Then I will basically need to create two more characters and constantly log in to micromanage THEIR skillset. If I don't then I'm going to be at a huge disadvantage, because someone else is going to be able to do everything under the sun in EVE and/or sell his characters off for extra ISK. No. Specialization is good. Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Wentau	Posted - 2008.10.18 01:13:00 - [13]
SickSeven	Posted - 2008.10.18 01:25:00 - [14] supported.
Phony v2 Heavens Gate Consortium	Posted - 2008.10.18 04:54:00 - [15] I agree, honestly I think it's absurd that all 3 characters can't train at the same time. It makes the other two chars useless except for use as scouting alts. Please make this idea a reality. ______________________________________________ Save a flame, post with your main!
procurement specialist	Posted - 2008.10.18 04:56:00 - [16] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Then I will basically need to create two more characters and constantly log in to micromanage THEIR skillset. If I don't then I'm going to be at a huge disadvantage, because someone else is going to be able to do everything under the sun in EVE and/or sell his characters off for extra ISK. No. Specialization is good. i doubt it. you would have everyone a production and market alt most likely. you still have to pay for skills books. the guys who currently do production for making isk to support their pvp habits can close the other account. this really only works for things where you want both people at the same time. if you had a mining character and a separate pvp character you aren't hurt anymore than having to buy all the skills books for two accounts.
Kerfira	Posted - 2008.10.18 07:35:00 - [17] Edited by: Kerfira on 18/10/2008 07:37:07 This has been suggested numerous times in the past, and the answer from CCP has always been a VERY firm 'No!'. The reason is that this would hugely increase character farming, and make training much easier for ISK farmers. If character trading was removed, I can see them reconsidering, but not otherwise. It would also further inflate the number of capital pilots, something I think most agree is not needed. So all in all, bad idea! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Dariah Stardweller	Posted - 2008.10.18 11:27:00 - [18] Since CCP is hell bent on making multi accounting more expensive for us (upping the price on GTC's, removal of options of GTC's and killing off ghosttraining) I now see no other way but too fully support this topic. I would not have done so if the changes mentioned above had not taken place.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.10.19 15:32:00 - [19] Sure, I am voting YES, just to see this idea shut down and killed by CCP in about 15 Seconds. Don't get me wrong, I think it is sensible thing to ask, I am certain, however, that CCP will Veto this w/o any discussion from CSM. So, yes, just to see CCP exercises their veto power. And, unless they will pull the "sorry it will disrupt our database" shtick... he he he... ::::Click The Signature For the Blog::::
Gone'Postal Rage of Inferno	Posted - 2008.10.19 15:46:00 - [20] Aye. Boost SISI VOTE NOW!
Davina Braben	Posted - 2008.10.19 16:04:00 - [21] Vote
Tommy Blue	Posted - 2008.10.19 16:12:00 - [22] Even if CCP gets a boost of income now, it will result in a loss of income in the long term. Assuming each player has 3 accounts (made up #), after CCP gets their "bonus" they get 1/3 of their previous income.
Dirk Culliford H A V O C Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.19 16:15:00 - [23] No. Firstly, no other MMO does allow parallel training as you have suggested, you need to log off one character to log the other on and train, thus you can only train one character at once.....just like EVE! It will also promote character farming, which I don't really agree with either
Fearless Kill Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.10.19 18:35:00 - [24] I dont support this as it will only crash the char market. Let this one lie.... i understand the mob is out with torch and pitchforks from ghost training.... im with you on that problem. But the fact is 1 char 1 training time, infact i would like them to fix the ability to set a toon to train a long skill, transfer that char to another account and then let that char train simultanously as the other char that was training already on the account
eliminator2 Black Legion Command Black Legion.	Posted - 2008.10.19 19:02:00 - [25] i agree with this since the beginning of year CCP have made bad choices for the gamers getting rid of 90 day GTC and 30 Day GTC wich majer increase in sales for 60 day GTC and the ghosting is a good idea but has its bad ideas and then nano nerf same again good and bad (which i dnt think is taking place) and other things that have stopped us from having fun and making us isk farme all the time this is needed for people to come back or stay in the game
TimMc Gallente The Motley Crew	Posted - 2008.10.19 19:35:00 - [26] Originally by: Dirk Culliford No. Firstly, no other MMO does allow parallel training as you have suggested, you need to log off one character to log the other on and train, thus you can only train one character at once.....just like EVE! It will also promote character farming, which I don't really agree with either This. Everyone who is supporting this is obviously not engaging their brains.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.10.19 20:36:00 - [27] This is a terrible idea. And not only is it a terrible idea, but the rationale used to support it is terrible too - it would do the exact opposite of a), b) would seem to be exactly the sort of cash grab players owuld thoroughly despise, and I really couldn't care less about the type of envious whiners you're holding up in c). On the bright side, I can safely assume it'll never happen. ------------------ Herschel's Lottery #2 - Win a Golem!
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.19 21:43:00 - [28] Quote: i doubt it. you would have everyone a production and market alt most likely. you still have to pay for skills books. the guys who currently do production for making isk to support their pvp habits can close the other account. this really only works for things where you want both people at the same time. if you had a mining character and a separate pvp character you aren't hurt anymore than having to buy all the skills books for two accounts. Bolded the reason why it's a shitty idea. Also, the cost of skillbooks for most things is trivial Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Xailz Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.19 23:10:00 - [29] Sorry to say but this is a really bad idea in some MMO's this may work but not eve whats to stop me creating an industrial alt that can fly hulks jump freighters rorquals etc etc and all you gotta do once you've trained a character is transfer it to a new account and you've got a character that you basically haven't paid for i think CCP would sooner bring back Ghosting tbh maybe a split training (an equal % to each slot with a skill running) but not this not signed Xailz Furthermore, this is actually apart of my signature ------
Jason Edwards	Posted - 2008.10.19 23:40:00 - [30] bad idea. They made it this way for a reason. It's not going to change. ------------------------ "There was this bright flash of light - and now this egg shaped thing is on my screen - did I level up?"

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