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Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.18 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Stuff&trade about WoW
You missed the fact that WoW had musical instruments that you can play. Until we can sit in a fleet in our musical bard ship pumping out tunes, Eve will always be inferior.
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Challis
Caldari Omega Sector
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Posted - 2008.10.18 11:31:00 -
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Well ive done my good deed of the day o7
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 18/10/2008 12:41:15
Originally by: Great Artista
Originally by: Sheriff Jones RP: WoW hads down.
And thats when I realized you're just trollin'. 
Nope.
In EVE you need a RP corporation to RP effectively, in WoW you can do it solo o an RP server.
They atleast enforce RP rules, they have RP fluff, etc.
It's not a roll, it's an opinion based on 0 fanboi'ism as it should.
Compared via the complete MMORPG scale, from features to UIs etc etc...WoW is better.
EVE might be a favorite, it is better in it's own areas, but as a MMORPG, WoW wins. Not to mention WoW tends to have more "fun".
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:58:00 -
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It's good to see EVE in second place. I know where I voted.
I am surprised to see LOTR behind that pile of shit AoC. Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |

Feriluce
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.18 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain It's good to see EVE in second place. I know where I voted.
I am surprised to see LOTR behind that pile of shit AoC.
Its the boobs.
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sg3s
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.18 14:01:00 -
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Voted Hello Kitty Online.... This is Hello Kitty Online forums rite? 
Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
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Kvaell
Minmatar Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.10.19 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 18/10/2008 12:41:15
Originally by: Great Artista
Originally by: Sheriff Jones RP: WoW hads down.
And thats when I realized you're just trollin'. 
In EVE you need a RP corporation to RP effectively, in WoW you can do it solo o an RP server.
They atleast enforce RP rules, they have RP fluff, etc.
How can you solo roleplay in WoW The Aldor-Scryer and Centaur races in Desolace is the only real roleplay the game itself offer iirc. I guess you can play you're saving a damsel in distress in a Gnoll cave or something, unless you consider the Horde-Alliance roleplay. Maybe I just don't get roleplay __________________________________________________
Terra Incognita, mare nostrum
Originally by: Dark Voynix
What are you? Just a half-failed BPC copy of an unresearched troll BPO ?
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IR Scoutar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.19 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
It's not a roll, it's an opinion based on 0 fanboi'ism as it should.
i love you and want to have your babies even thou your playing wow >_<
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.10.19 06:32:00 -
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Damn, I was going to post this.
The question is... did you hear about it the same way I did?
vote[EVE]++; __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.10.19 06:46:00 -
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Anyone catch the typo in the results panel? Rather funny one at that. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Gojyu
Ever Flow Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.19 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: Gojyu on 19/10/2008 08:18:51 Voted for WoW also, for many of the reasons sheriff already stated. I'm done with WoW, chances are I'll never play it again, but it doesn't mean the game isn't good. Eve is more complicated than wow, eve pvp is more risk based than wow, eve's end game is more open ended than wow, but to suggest those three qualities somehow make eve superior to blizzard's magnum opus is laughable. Eve is a niche game that has a rabid fanbase, but it never really changed anything. World of warcraft single handedly redesigned the mmo industry, and ensured that the mmorpg is now the genre of choice for the casual gamer, a feat that aided every single mmorpg out there, including eve.
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.10.19 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: "VE3D Poll" Pirates of the Burning Pea - 13
WTF 
Voted for EVE, but severely tempted to vote for burning some peas.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.10.19 09:51:00 -
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I rather vote with my wallet.
Got 4 EVE-accounts. One in WoW, one in WAR, none in Hello Kitty. There was a few games where I had two accounts, like Everquest, MU and Diablo II (doubt those two counts as a mmo tbh), but most of them was one. Lineage, SWG, RO etc.. the only game I had more than two accounts in, like in EVE, was an asian game that's now dead since long.
Unless I can put 4 votes on EVE in that vote I will just stay away, else it reflects poorly on the greatness of internet spaceships and lz0rz. 
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/10/2008 11:21:35
Originally by: Kvaell How can you solo roleplay in WoW The Aldor-Scryer and Centaur races in Desolace is the only real roleplay the game itself offer iirc. I guess you can play you're saving a damsel in distress in a Gnoll cave or something, unless you consider the Horde-Alliance roleplay. Maybe I just don't get roleplay
On a RP server in WoW, you RP all the time as it's enforced(slightly) that everything you talk should be in character. Only exception is guild/trade channel.
You are, in effect, playing a role all the time and with plenty of tools to do so. Want to host a beer kegger? Can do. For example.
In EVE, you roleplay in chat, and even then, you need a roleplaying chat. And RP events are pretty much dead, which was only a step down from a zombie state.
Also yes, doing 700+ different quests without single repeat(unless you fail) adds to the roleplay as you're not saving the same damsel, from same cave, for the same guy, for the n-teenth time.
In short; in EVE i'm me flying around in future space, while everyones brain is for some cosmic reason stuck in the 2nd millenium, in WoW i'm a shaman hunting evil horde and trying to protect a fantasy land.
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Akelorian
Caldari DOOMSDAY. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:27:00 -
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It was a tough choice tbh, Hello Kitty or Eve Online... why people are voting for warhammer online is beyond me, that game sucks, the graphics are horrible, it lags more than an eve blobfest and it has really no storyline. Tabula Rasa is ok even though its like playing Contra on the old nintendo. I <3 Eve, even if sometimes I suck at it :)
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Countess Vanya
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Countess Vanya on 19/10/2008 11:31:20
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/10/2008 11:21:35
Also yes, doing 700+ different quests without single repeat(unless you fail) adds to the roleplay as you're not saving the same damsel, from same cave, for the same guy, for the n-teenth time.
In short; in EVE i'm me flying around in future space, while everyones brain is for some cosmic reason stuck in the 2nd millenium, in WoW i'm a shaman hunting evil horde and trying to protect a fantasy land.
I played WoW a couple of years back and I do recall that I roleplayed myself right through 1/3 the ogre population of Azeroth, 1/4 of all trolls and god knows what else on my quests. At that point I rather came to the conclusion I must have become the greatest hero in the history of anything. But then so was everyone else. The math just didn't add up and all seemed rather rediculous. Personally the only thing that stood WoW out for me was the expansion of a storyline I had enjoyed when I played Warcraft II.
I personally think that comparisons of EVE and WoW are a tad unfair as they are entirely different in concept, other than being MMPORGs, might as well compare a car racing game and a flight sim.
*Quick Edit*
Oh and WoW SUXORS! I said it, so it must be true.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:38:00 -
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True enough Countess, but that's true in every MMO. Even EVE, you're just part of a legion of heroes 
Aye, comparing EVE and WoW doesn't work, but when voting for the best MMORPG, it has to swing that way. |

Hooded Person
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu Edited by: Gojyu on 19/10/2008 08:18:51 Voted for WoW also, for many of the reasons sheriff already stated. I'm done with WoW, chances are I'll never play it again, but it doesn't mean the game isn't good. Eve is more complicated than wow, eve pvp is more risk based than wow, eve's end game is more open ended than wow, but to suggest those three qualities somehow make eve superior to blizzard's magnum opus is laughable. Eve is a niche game that has a rabid fanbase, but it never really changed anything. World of warcraft single handedly redesigned the mmo industry, and ensured that the mmorpg is now the genre of choice for the casual gamer, a feat that aided every single mmorpg out there, including eve.
Cool, so we have WOW to blame for all the 12 year old whiney ****tards who are ruining the essence of EVE by crying on the forums until they get highsec completely 100% safe? The only other market that WOW uniquely appeals to are technophobes who don't want to actually have to deal with any of the complexity of other MMOs, and they obviously won't be playing EVE.
Also, when people suggest that the WOW community is better than EVE's, maybe you should actually try talking to the hordes of 12 year olds who play only so that they can be like "OMG I'M L337 WITH EP1C ITEMZZZ!!!!" and be free from any actual risk (other than a small repair bill if they die, and a walk back to their corpse).
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Countess Vanya
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones True enough Countess, but that's true in every MMO. Even EVE, you're just part of a legion of heroes 
Aye, comparing EVE and WoW doesn't work, but when voting for the best MMORPG, it has to swing that way.
Everyone has a different basis for their criteria for what is best and how this compares.
For me the construction and marketing aspects of a game are massively weighted. This means EVE wins utterly for me. No other game comes even close. Burning Peas ( ) failed miserably despite a valiant effort.
for other folk PVP is important and they want to immerse themselves in killing others.
Some folk like mining (Lord knows why, but glad they do).
it seems for you RP plays a major element. I know I am not gonna sway your opinion, however there is more to RP in EVE than you might think. RP in EVE does not necessarily require running around shouting in character to all and sundry. Being part of a sand box game, most every action you take is building or tearing down the world of eve and affecting other players. The role you choose the moment you enter shapes the world around you. I am a casual RPer and the joy of EVE is that I can feel like I am contributing without trying vainly to put on some affectation to make me sound erm... this character is Khanid i think too many accounts.
My point being that from the moment I log in, I feel I am RPing and the joy of that, is I haven't had to make a concerted mental effort to do so. Maybe I should rephrase to lazy RPer.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/10/2008 11:55:14
Originally by: Hooded Person Cool, so we have WOW to blame for all the 12 year old whiney ****tards who are ruining the essence of EVE by crying on the forums until they get highsec completely 100% safe? The only other market that WOW uniquely appeals to are technophobes who don't want to actually have to deal with any of the complexity of other MMOs, and they obviously won't be playing EVE.
Actually, it's people like you who drag EVE down.
Anyone outside the precious EVE circle is bad, nothing else can be, and if you dare say anything bad, you're a...like you so nicely put it..."special person". Right?...wrong.
When EVE community acts more mature, i'll start sying it's more mature.
Countess;
Nah, it's not just the RP, it's all other aspects. Just all counted, better from a non-biased point of view.
Personally i think EVE is better, but i don't think it's better as a MMORPG 
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Countess Vanya
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Posted - 2008.10.19 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/10/2008 11:55:14
Personally i think EVE is better, but i don't think it's better as a MMORPG 
Now I am confused, but I will nod my head in understanding to make myself look clever.
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Talen Kross
T Miners
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Posted - 2008.10.19 12:07:00 -
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Voted Hello Kitty.
Originally by: "Desi"
Originally by: "spiralJunkie" if Vegeta is going, only I can beat him
You will need to spend atleast 6 episodes powering up before you do that.
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.10.19 12:18:00 -
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Voted for Hello Kitty Online, because it's Pedobears Dreamland, and we owe him so much.
The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch.. |

Hooded Person
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.19 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/10/2008 11:55:14 Actually, it's people like you who drag EVE down.
Anyone outside the precious EVE circle is bad, nothing else can be, and if you dare say anything bad, you're a...like you so nicely put it..."special person". Right?...wrong.
When EVE community acts more mature, i'll start sying it's more mature.
Countess;
Nah, it's not just the RP, it's all other aspects. Just all counted, better from a non-biased point of view.
Personally i think EVE is better, but i don't think it's better as a MMORPG 
Sorry if I came across a bit overzealous initially (I've only just woken up), but the point I'm trying to make is that EVE is a niche game, and that's what makes it great. WOW is better in some respects, but for me it could never be fun. I don't care about killing NPCs or pretending to be a character in the game. I play games for the social interaction and the ability to actually affect other people in game, either by working towards a common goal as part of a corp, or by blowing them up. Yes you can help each other in WOW, but unless you're on a PvP server, you can't actually hinder anyone. Scamming is banned, PvP is meaningless even on a PvP server, and corporate espionage just doesn't exist. Without the risk and reward involved in interacting with people, the social aspect of the game is meaningless, and little more than a costly version of IRC chat.
Anyway, I'm happy to welcome new people into EVE, just as long as they don't expect the game to change just because it isn't what they initially expected. EVE is great because of what it is, and while small change is beneficial, a significant portion of people who play WOW would require the whole essence of the game to be reworked if they were to enjoy it.
The two games, while sharing the same genre, are completely different, both in their design and their main audience.
And yes, I am still a bit bitter that currently the main method of getting changes made to the game is to come crying on the forums and spamming until it is changed.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.19 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/10/2008 12:31:32
Originally by: Countess Vanya
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/10/2008 11:55:14
Personally i think EVE is better, but i don't think it's better as a MMORPG 
Now I am confused, but I will nod my head in understanding to make myself look clever.
I think EVE is personally better, the "one i'd choose to play if only one was alive", but from a non-biased MMORPG view, WoW wins.
Oh and Hooded, it's cool, we're all like that in the morning 
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Drolic
Caldari The Dirt Dogs
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Posted - 2008.10.19 15:34:00 -
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Wasn't hard at all LOTRO by many many AU. Eve never would've taken first even before this latest pr fiasco. The lack of free movement was a huge points killer for me in Eve. LOTRO however has everything WOW has + much more (the playable insturments and player made music system takes that cake!). Wow's latest patch included achievments, guess witch game they got that from (lotro!) lol.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.19 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Drolic guess witch game they got that from (lotro!) lol.
Well, considering what Sir Lotro took from Herr WoW... 
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wdwjhdw
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Posted - 2008.10.19 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Maturity: Tie. Really, a tie. I'm suprised but, EVE has as much whine and dine, l33t and shiiit as WoW. Age may be more, but acting your age isn't.
Got to agree with this. It seems to be common on other game forums to bash WOW as being full of 12 year olds, but my experience there was very different. I'd say the "average" player is in his/her 20's. If you want to find something which tends to divide the kid vs adult population, a bigger factor would be whether the game is free to play. Pay to play games tend to have less idiots in them, or possibly less "12 year olds".
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.19 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 19/10/2008 18:05:02
Originally by: Sheriff Jones EVE might be a favorite, it is better in it's own areas, but as a MMORPG, WoW wins. Not to mention WoW tends to have more "fun".
Actually I consider WoW to be more of a online-game rather than MMO. EVE is one of the only "true" MMO's.. since it's closer to a real virtual world and single sharded.. WoW is to linear, too small, to static and not enough people to be considered a "real mmo" from my point of view..
edit: and when I say "real mmo" I mean a real (virtual) world, living economy, sandbox, freedom to do what you want, large world.. etc..
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2008.10.19 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu World of warcraft single handedly redesigned the mmo industry, and ensured that the mmorpg is now the genre of choice for the casual gamer, a feat that aided every single mmorpg out there, including eve.
Wow single handedly turned most mmorpgs into boring singleplayer games.
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