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PVH8 CFO Synd-Tech	Posted - 2008.10.19 06:43:00 - [1] Trudging through the killboards of corps and alliances from "the armpit" region of eve for lol-fit ship losses I noticed a certain blob battle in the PC9 system. It appears that The Red Skull Alliance and Thorn Alliance are attempting to cram themselves into the pocket much like circus clowns would cram themselves into a small clockwork car, (looking back through the KB stats of 3 or 4 alliances involved there). Are these the beginings of a "Bruce 2" style blob-alliance? Only time will tell, although in this pod pilots humble opinion, judging from current killboard statistics, its definatly on the cards. Could anyone from any involved alliance verify this? -Watching eagerly from my secret volcano lair in the pvh8 system.
supakilla Gallente Caldari Deep Space Ventures Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.19 06:46:00 - [2] Watching eagerly for the lock!
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.19 07:11:00 - [3] No we're just stopping by Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter. http://www.eve-trs.com
Sekundar Burnes Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.19 07:12:00 - [4] As long as I get to drive the clown car I'm in!!!
Sage Eveo Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.19 07:18:00 - [5] Our Circus makes for a great show - tickets on sale all week.
Xorth Adimus Caldari Zero Divide The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.19 08:13:00 - [6] Ah Syndicate 'the armpit region' the only really good thing about it is the pvp! Guess what we are here for! TRS have had allot of fun fighting against the odds the last few weeks in lower Syndicate, holding our own solo against a number of larger coalitions which would always use larger fleets and always use caps and then stillcall for help and shockingly still fail on more then a few occasions. This weekend one of our many old friends couldn't wait to drop by and join us to share in the fun and cap kills! So who loses to clowns, clown shoes perhaps? Maybe you should post with your main and tell us? Thanks for all the targets and making our visit so much more fun then we expected, it's been so good we extended it!
cnx7	Posted - 2008.10.19 08:41:00 - [7]
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2008.10.19 08:46:00 - [8] The lol-fits are mostly the product of a certain alliance in Syndicate, do not take them as an indicator of the quality of the Syndicate pew pew'ers.
Kyguard Forged from Fire	Posted - 2008.10.19 09:00:00 - [9] TRS, Thorn, Ocularis Inferno vs HF, EXM, Tygris And we just go everywhere and shoot everyone Fun for everyone, otherwise I have no idea wtf you're talking about. -
Ilany BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.19 10:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Xorth Adimus TRS have had allot of fun fighting against the odds the last few weeks in lower Syndicate, holding our own solo against a number of larger coalitions which would always use larger fleets and always use caps and then stillcall for help... Is this what they call "irony"? Or did you forget the punch line. ------
Xornicon Altair Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.19 20:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Ilany Is this what they call "irony"? Or did you forget the punch line. The punch line is coming. Just wait for it. The Red Skull: http://www.eve-syndicate.com/index.php
GusHobbleton Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.10.19 20:20:00 - [12] It's funny how Pandemic Legion controls the only real resource in Syndicate - a single dyspro moon. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cmndr Griff Opinicus Operations	Posted - 2008.10.19 20:27:00 - [13] Originally by: GusHobbleton It's funny how Pandemic Legion controls the only real resource in Syndicate - a single dyspro moon. Subtle if it's true. Where do ideas like these come from? Monkeys in hats?
Arimus Darkhart Caldari Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2008.10.19 21:54:00 - [14] Not sure if it is or isn't the only Dys moon in Syndicate but PL do have on the Dys moon we're talking about ;) -- Users are like a virus - each causing a thousand tiny crises until the host finally dies.
IronGoldenEagle Destroyers Of the Freeworld THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.19 22:40:00 - [15] Pvp was fun, syndicate has always been good for it. Former BRUCIE speaking here, this is not Bruce 2 lol because our leaders aren't Friedrich Psitalon
Namelesz Viscosity	Posted - 2008.10.19 23:18:00 - [16] There are no fights in Syndicate...it's all just an illusion seeing as its the armpit of eve....and lets be honest, who could fight in an armpit? what with all the dampness and the deodorant smell n such....
Wusti The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.19 23:24:00 - [17] NIce to see Red Skull's local smack also now extends to CAOD. HUZZAH is more than happy to let the KB speak for itself. Oh and while you are at it - you might want to check those alliance numbers too - plenty of fail here, and it aint hard to find. _______________________ Welcome to The New Era
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.19 23:50:00 - [18] Originally by: Wusti NIce to see Red Skull's local smack also now extends to CAOD. HUZZAH is more than happy to let the KB speak for itself. Oh and while you are at it - you might want to check those alliance numbers too - plenty of fail here, and it aint hard to find. Wusti, you never cease to amaze me. The dread we kill is supposedly desynched(which wouldnt matter it was as good as dead as soon as it was bumped..lol). When we kill you its a login trap(I really laughed when you told me that). You swear you post everything automatically by an API, yet you have the only API mod that I know that is set on a 2-3 day timer..lol Your guys smack all to hell all day long.. and yes we do respond sometimes. We like confusing you :P Then on top of it one of your guys makes this post with an alt(basically repeating what they said in local that night) and we extended something to the CAOD?? If nothing else Huzzah is a great source of entertainment to anyone who fights them. We just want to pew man, dont want all the drama. At the end of the day though we are having fun.. lots of pew and alot of good times. Lets keep it that way!! Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter. http://www.eve-trs.com
Wusti The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 02:31:00 - [19] Dunno wtf your are talking about with the alt business Guru - but as for RESPONDING to our smack? Get real - we all know what the real story is and no need for us to spin it: you know it, we know it. As for API and killboards - you guys need to review your own as you still miss a few kills on us - but a much larger number of losses are missing at your end - I suggest you look in your own backyard before trying to have a crack at us on that score. As for the comments re: blobbing made further above (to which I was referring), thats pretty funny considering the numbers you have brought, and then had to add a number of additional alliances, and still can't get a positive efficiency. Less smack, less drama and more pew is a good call - I wonder if your Peons can do it though? _______________________ Welcome to The New Era
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.20 02:54:00 - [20] Originally by: Wusti Edited by: Wusti on 20/10/2008 02:43:25 Less smack, less drama and more pew is a good call - I wonder if your Peons can do it though? And your still posting why?? lol See you out there!! Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter. http://www.eve-trs.com
Rajere Vicious Inc	Posted - 2008.10.20 03:24:00 - [21] blobbers calling other people blobbers is funny. "They brought more than us! Quick, to the forums!" then again everyone is a blobber by that definition. Whether it's our 3 guys ganking 1 guy ratting in a belt or your 60 vs their 100 or whatever. A better definition for blobbers is someone who will not engage in pvp until they have an overwhelming force (either in ship quality, numbers, or usually both). and lol 1 dyspro moon, there's atleast 5-6 afaik. How to Fail at Eve
the plague Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 07:45:00 - [22] PL has all the dyspro moons in syndicate fyi, syndicate is a fun place to live we all love it our here, and if there wasnt a big gang bang going on out here it wouldnt be as fun would it? so let all hold hands and sing ring a ring a roses... oh 1 question why did a redskull pilot eject from his providence yesterday? thanks for that :). proof or stfu you say? lucky for you eve-files is down and im a noob and dont know any others!
Olex Grant Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 08:00:00 - [23] Sigh. Okay, a couple of points I would like to make if I may. i. Red Skull's killboard is missing both kills and losses vs Huzzah. I spent a couple of hours last week doing a comparitive analysis of both boards and mailed them to JVR JVR, who (at the time) was the most vocal critic of our board in PC9 local. The conclusion I arrived at was that TRS systematically fail to post mails, period. There were significant discrepancies on both sides of the equation. I also invited TRS to let me know if they found any Huzzah losses missing, adding that I would post them. Needless to say, I have received no such communications from them, nor even the courtesy of a reply, just observed the continuation of their wild claims both here and in local chat. I would point out (again) that TRS bolster their stats by including alliances we aren't even blue with (SWAT) and an alt corp. ii. Smack - in all my years of playing Eve, I don't believe I've ever seen smack on the level I have seen from these people. It is true that members of Huzzah have responded in local on occasion out of frustration and I suspect that this is TRS's intention. Huzzah has an anti-smack policy and I, among others, endeavour to calm people down and keep local free of anything other than "GF". iii. Numbers - why we are still having this discussion ? The numbers are the numbers. If you really are concerned about this, go here ; http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp?SortType=Members&Conq=&Sov=OFF, take out a calculator (if you need one), add up the numbers in Thorn Alliance, The Covenant Alliance, Ocularis Inferno, Controlled Chaos and The Red Skull then deduct the numbers in Huzzah Federation, EXM, Tygris and Omega Factor. Those are the maxiumum numbers involved. ______________________________________________ "Smite the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered."
Johnny Gurkha Death Cult Covenant	Posted - 2008.10.20 08:03:00 - [24] Originally by: the plague PL has all the dyspro moons in syndicate fyi Never knew my old corps moon in MHC was taken, when was this?
Nytemaster The Perfect Storm The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:00:00 - [25] Edited by: Nytemaster on 20/10/2008 11:01:44 First of all, there are smacktards in both alliances, Huzzah and Red Skull. To say either alliances are innocent is flat out not telling the truth. Usually the smack comes when one side outnumbers the other in a ridiculous attempt to chest-beat. So if the policy is not to smack, you're failing at that. Might I remind those here that this is Syndicate. Chest beating over this space is comparable to being proud of beating up an elementary kid.
Nytemaster The Perfect Storm The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:08:00 - [26] As far as the killmails are concerned, we have API imports and all kills/losses are supposed to be automatically posted. I just checked my last loss and it has not posted so there may be something wrong with the API due to some recent changes in the killboard. Can't fault us for not manually posting when it's suppose to do it automatically now can you? As far as the killboard accuracy, you worry about your own before smacking about someone elses. That goes for everyone who has something to say here.
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Nytemaster Edited by: Nytemaster on 20/10/2008 11:01:44 First of all, there are smacktards in both alliances, Huzzah and Red Skull. To say either alliances are innocent is flat out not telling the truth. Usually the smack comes when one side outnumbers the other in a ridiculous attempt to chest-beat. So if the policy is not to smack, you're failing at that. Might I remind those here that this is Syndicate. Chest beating over this space is comparable to being proud of beating up an elementary kid. <3 Allo love, long time no see... Piece of advice in fighting Huzzah....... Don't!! If you really really want to upset them.........Go open up a plex in one of their systems or do a bit of npc warrioring.. Then you will really see them cry.........Pants around ankles kind of waaaaaaa Once you hit them where it hurts.........Their isky farming abilities... The drama starts to unfold and the gloves come off... ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Thimerion shadow and flame Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:24:00 - [28] With regards to killboard accuracy, we all know people are more than ready to post there kills as soon as they get the opportunity but not so much there losses, so the solution is simple. If both sides are posting kills but neither is posting losses simply link the KB's using the feed syndication mod. Kills will become losses on the appropriate killboards. Simple, takes 2 mins to set up and then someone just needs to log on as and admin to the kb one a day and hit import.
the plague Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:47:00 - [29] wheres your freighter gone? wheres your freighter gone? troll troll troll boring... undock allready....
El Covah LOCKDOWN. HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Nytemaster I just checked my last loss and it has not posted so there may be something wrong with the API due to some recent changes in the killboard. Can't fault us for not manually posting when it's suppose to do it automatically now can you? I find it absolutely funny that everytime ppl come and start fighting us, from BRUCE over UNNAT (which became good friends later) etc. etc. and now TRS+friends it comes to a discussion about our killboard accuracy, be it on SHL or here - or ppl accusing us creating lag like it happened last week. Nytemaster, please make your ppl aware of it so they stop writing our alliance leadership silly Mails. Anyhow I must admit reading those is fun. Olex wrote it down with the best words nobody else from us can find.
Sacul Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:03:00 - [31] Originally by: El Covah over UNNAT (which became good friends later) etc. etc. ... or ppl accusing us creating lag like it happened last week. Thats why we became friends in the first place, we wanted the lag generator technology. Damn you for guarding it so closely!! /me shakes fist Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
the plague Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:12:00 - [32] we will never give up the lag generator... myself and chribba are the only owners in eve.........
Olex Grant Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:30:00 - [33] Originally by: Nytemaster As far as the killmails are concerned, we have API imports and all kills/losses are supposed to be automatically posted. I just checked my last loss and it has not posted so there may be something wrong with the API due to some recent changes in the killboard. Can't fault us for not manually posting when it's suppose to do it automatically now can you? As far as the killboard accuracy, you worry about your own before smacking about someone elses. That goes for everyone who has something to say here. Thanks for your posts Nyte - good points in both. The API key is not fool proof, the Huzzah KB also utilises this mod for all corps (Statecorp may not be on this yet, could be wrong there though). I have noticed the GSY one (running through my own API) missing kills and losses which I can see in the corporation window and have had to manually post them. At the end of the day, there is no real substitute to fostering an atmosphere of integrity within an alliance such that people always post their mails, whether kills or losses. ______________________________________________ "Smite the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered."
Mauddib77 Zero Divide The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.20 14:36:00 - [34] Where did this one go? http://www.eve-trs.com/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11176
Olex Grant Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 16:07:00 - [35] Originally by: Mauddib77 Where did this one go? Kill Mail Link Someone keeps deleting that loss. Kill has been reposted. If you have any missing kills/losses please contact me or Adril direct rather than on here. ______________________________________________ "Smite the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered."
IronGoldenEagle Destroyers Of the Freeworld THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.20 17:17:00 - [36] It has been extremely fun to fight Huzzah again. I'm hoping for more as I seem to miss all the battles and get in on the ops where there is no battle . But I realy had forgotten how fun the small gan warfare was out here. Huzzah are not cowards and thats why I respect them as an enemy, and a couple as friends. They will jump into you even if you are superior in numbers. And they pull off wins from. I admire the allainces willing to throw themselves at bigger fleets (not saying either side is blobbing, cuz they not really). Huzzah please keep the fights coming and thank you for not stationing up 23/7. Remember guys, its a KILLboard, you dont post LOSSES on a KILLboard. GAH!
Ilany BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.20 18:55:00 - [37] The dreadnought has been returned and is in one of our corp hangars, as is a freighter that we captured (!) when one of your pilots ejected from it in Niarja last night. As a show of good faith we will not delete the dreadnought killmail from our board, nor will we fabricate a killmail for the freighter. Rest assured, our killboard is about as accurate as it gets. As Wusti said, we know that, you know that. Thank you to those who accept this and thank you Isira Aljazaki for the free Providence, Hulk and rigged Tristan. ------
Mortecai Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2008.10.20 19:02:00 - [38] /facepalm Is this what I am coming back to? Page 2 on a whining thread about killmails not being posted? How lame can you get? Just ST*U and shoot each other, will ya? cya in space.
Xorth Adimus Caldari Zero Divide The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.20 19:12:00 - [39] Originally by: Xorth Adimus Ah Syndicate 'the armpit region' the only really good thing about it is the pvp! Guess what we are here for! TRS have had allot of fun fighting against the odds the last few weeks in lower Syndicate, holding our own solo against a number of larger coalitions which would always use larger fleets and always use caps and then stillcall for help and shockingly still fail on more then a few occasions. This weekend one of our many old friends couldn't wait to drop by and join us to share in the fun and cap kills! So who loses to clowns, clown shoes perhaps? Maybe you should post with your main and tell us? Thanks for all the targets and making our visit so much more fun then we expected, it's been so good we extended it! I was replying to some dirty alt posting c**p, not to huzzah? I laugh at the idea of TRS 'blobbing' and 'smacking' when that is pretty much the opposite of how we play. I certainly wasn't directing anything at Huzzah or any other alliance so I am puzzled by the response. There have always been a number of large coalitions that roam through Syndicate and like to try and play the numbers game, say they own the place ('own' npc space !) and still tragicly fail against TRS. I am sure you know what I mean and take great fun in killing them too. I love you guys its all good fun, and the killboard shows it with an pretty even split! Good hunting.
Khales Minmatar Cataclysm Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.20 23:38:00 - [40] I love you guys its all good fun, and the killboard shows it with an pretty even split! Good hunting. right: HUZZAH VS TRS kills 842 - 275 hope we can keep that even split.
Wusti The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.21 00:06:00 - [41] Originally by: Khales I love you guys its all good fun, and the killboard shows it with an pretty even split! Good hunting. right: HUZZAH VS TRS kills 842 - 275 hope we can keep that even split. Khales - this quote is just completely inaccurate - pls do you proper research before making posts of this type. Current count HF on TRS is actually, according to our KB 632 (HF) v 268 (TRS) with HF holding a 53% or thereabouts efficiency (not including loaded freighter capture ) The figures quoted by Khales includes stats for Red Skull, THORN, Covenant, Controlled Chaos and Ocularis Inferno. Huzzah apologises for any inconvenience caused. BTW @ Yendaj - don't worry darling I still wuv you! _______________________ Welcome to The New Era
Echo VI White Wolves Syndicate THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.21 02:02:00 - [42] The circus may be starting in PC9, but it'll hit the road real soon. Stay tuned and you may get to see the fat bearded lady sing while we expertly juggle knives.
Gorefacer Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.10.21 02:15:00 - [43] Originally by: Olex Grant ii. Smack - in all my years of playing Eve, I don't believe I've ever seen smack on the level I have seen from these people. Haha. Guess people don't change. A few are real cool though. "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
Nytemaster The Perfect Storm The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.21 03:35:00 - [44] Originally by: El Covah Nytemaster, please make your ppl aware of it so they stop writing our alliance leadership silly Mails. Anyhow I must admit reading those is fun. Please send alliance leadership a copy of those mails so they can be properly dealt with. I am not an alliance leader.
Kyguard Forged from Fire	Posted - 2008.10.21 04:08:00 - [45] The HF killboard could use an updated isk value for ships especially t2. For example a rhea is only 1.5b on it, should be more 3-4 I believe. Otherwise I've never seen a loss from us missing and I can say the same thing about red skull. -
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.10.21 06:39:00 - [46] Edited by: Mistress Suffering on 21/10/2008 06:53:36 removed Found the item in question.
Rajere Vicious Inc	Posted - 2008.10.21 08:51:00 - [47] Hi! Kyguard, brosef, kill you last ok? wtb more than 2 color options for negative standings, can't tell any of you apart :( Quote: As a show of good faith we will not delete the dreadnought killmail from our board, nor will we fabricate a killmail for the freighter. Rule of thumb we use is, "if the mail has the potential to appear on an enemy kb (meaning it has another player listed on it), then you must post the loss, regardless of the outcome of any petitions for reimbursement due to in game bugs/etc." In my experience HF killboard is fairly accurate, I can't recall any issues in the past. However it seems your policy has been to remove lossmails that were reimbursed, so I can't say it's as accurate as it could be (such as ours.) How to Fail at Eve
ChalSto LOCKDOWN.	Posted - 2008.10.21 17:51:00 - [48] Originally by: the plague we will never give up the lag generator... myself and chribba are the only owners in eve......... U wish Originally by: Agmar ----------------------------------------------- "The North is so ghey that even the NPCs fly ravens."
Rajere Vicious Inc	Posted - 2008.10.21 22:52:00 - [49] Quote: PL has all the dyspro moons in syndicate fyi, No, they don't. How to Fail at Eve
Kyguard Forged from Fire	Posted - 2008.10.21 23:46:00 - [50] Shit Raj, lets nap ;O -
Tiberious Marz Minmatar Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2008.10.22 00:29:00 - [51] Originally by: Xorth Adimus I was replying to some dirty alt posting c**p, not to huzzah? I laugh at the idea of TRS 'blobbing' and 'smacking' when that is pretty much the opposite of how we play. I certainly wasn't directing anything at Huzzah or any other alliance so I am puzzled by the response. There have always been a number of large coalitions that roam through Syndicate and like to try and play the numbers game, say they own the place ('own' npc space !) and still tragicly fail against TRS. I am sure you know what I mean and take great fun in killing them too. I love you guys its all good fun, and the killboard shows it with an pretty even split! Good hunting. Not Blobbing? lol and it is all good fun!!
SajuurCor Free Collective Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.10.22 01:34:00 - [52] Kybear I'm gonna come get you. ________________
Rajere Vicious Inc	Posted - 2008.10.22 05:54:00 - [53] Sorry no naps, no blues. "kill you last" is the best I can do ^_^ How to Fail at Eve
Kyguard Forged from Fire	Posted - 2008.10.22 08:47:00 - [54] Originally by: SajuurCor Kybear I'm gonna come get you. I always knew deep down you loved me -
Trellish Ten Ton Hammer The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.23 07:36:00 - [55] TBH, I don't really care about values on killboards. Granted HF uses quite low values for their kills while TRS has tried to be a bit closer to market value (though with still some missing values).... tbh though, it's an absolute nightmare trying to stay on top of that kind of thing and who really wants to spend their game time making sure those values are updated? I know we've killed some faction fit ships with mods that went through at a couple hundred k value.... Really though, who gives a flying flip? As long as the killboard is consistent... not valuing kills of a ship higher than losses of the same ship, and any changes made to values affect both sides, then it's all good. It's not like Killboards are ever really accurate in the first place. There's too much ability to juggle numbers... For example, Huzzahs 91% efficiency ratio on their war dec campaign posted at the top of their killboard, made by limiting the systems and dates from which kills are pulled. The real ratio for those dates where all systems are included, per the details on their killboard is 48% versus thorn and 43% versus TRS as of the time of this writing. Don't misunderstand me... I'm not criticizing them posting 91% efficiency based off that data... It's a legit efficiency based off the criteria they set. It only shows how possible it is to make stats say just about anything. I'm sure HF could point to ways in which TRS has done similar things of which I'm unaware. My point is though, that all of us are (or should be) aware of how valuable stats from killboards actually are. Mostly, they are just records of participation and have very little other value. There've been calls on both sides accusing of not posting kills. Let's just drop it. We're both API'ed in... it's gonna mostly be there. Yes API's arent perfect. I know TRS had a day or so where our API was down due to some web work, during which we were accused of not posting stuff... I'm sure there's been similar situations for HF. I'm signing off and going back to pew pew... I suggest you do the same. YARRR!
Adril Alatar Minmatar Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.23 11:40:00 - [56] Originally by: Trellish For example, Huzzahs 91% efficiency ratio on their war dec campaign posted at the top of their killboard, made by limiting the systems and dates from which kills are pulled. The real ratio for those dates where all systems are included, per the details on their killboard is 48% versus thorn and 43% versus TRS as of the time of this writing. This campaigns only measures the performance of the empire wars against TRS and Thorn. So the campaign is accurate in what it should show => all kills in empire. And you cant take single alliances from the other campaign and single out there efficiency in this campaign. You can only take the efficiency of the campaign, which is at 61% right now. The 43% and 48% is because we have losses were both alliances are on the killmail. That boosts the efficiency of both alliances but all together its only 1 loss for us, not 2 ;-) The API (and the feed syndication mod) are only a tool to see if people dont post there losses (and kills). Our standing order is that everyone has to post every kill and loss (excluding losses to NPCs only ). API isnt fool proof as there are sometimes losses not in the api although they happened. And losses reimbursed are in the API like the dread Yojimbow lost. But overall its a very very good tool, i remember back in our Catch days when i had to check all hostile and friendly killboards to find missing kills and losses and cross post them manually... that was a real pain in the ass ;-) And to give a small update on the situation: We have declared war on thorn alliance. It started on Tuesday evening and i heard the first few hours were a lot of fun. Thorn learned there lesson and last evening was very quiet. Still some skirmishes in 0.0, hopefully there will be more action on the weekend. The most important part: I have fun, lots of it. Thanks to TRS and Thorn for this ;-)
Olex Grant Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.23 12:11:00 - [57] Edited by: Olex Grant on 23/10/2008 12:15:20 Edited by: Olex Grant on 23/10/2008 12:11:44 Banging on about killboards is tiresome and I'm sure everyone reading this thread is rolling their eyes over it's continual appearance. However, at the risk of boring everyone even more, and because our foes keep bringing it up, I'd like to make a point or two. i. The killboard that we, Thorn and TRS use excludes module values in calculating efficiency. ii. Faction Ships - someone mentioned our killboard undervaluing them, I assume you're referring to the Lockdown Tempest Fleet Issue kill you made, to which our KB attributed a value of 340m (net of fittings and insurance payout remember). At the time I checked this value to contracts in Jita and found an average of value of 385.4M which makes our killboardÆs valuation, net of insurance payout, somewhat high if anything. Also remember that values are reflected on both kills and losses, meaning the net effect, efficiency-wise is probably negligible. All this getting hung up on killboards is ridiculous, although (at the risk of getting flamed) my personal opinion is that some Red Skull members in particular (and the ones most vocal on the subject) have a fundamental lack of understanding of how the KBs work and how the stats they calculate are arrived at and what they mean (for example looking at Huzzah on their KB and thinking that the efficiency shown was theirs not ours). In short, there is no attempt on our part to intentionally manipulate KB stats at all and if anyone has any problems with them, as I've previously stated, please contaact Adril or me directly in game rather than attempt to drag the issue into CAOD like so much dirty laundry to wave at us and the rest of Eve erroneously. Can we move on now ? ______________________________________________ "Smite the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered."
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:14:00 - [58] What a terrible thread. Imagine actually being in one of these deadbeat alliances! /wrists
Mortecai Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:43:00 - [59] Edited by: Mortecai on 23/10/2008 13:43:13 Please, can you guys stop the kb whining. You guys really make yourself look like stat whoring carebears. It used to be that you guys actually wrote about interesting stuff and and not meta-gaming killboard "my stats are bigger than yours oh no they are not cause our ISK kills are bigger that yours cause we keep the prices correct" chestbeating. Find that old "you" again, it's hard to respect pilots that live in "killboard" mode, allies or not. Edit: Olex in his last post mentioned all this already, but I think he was to subtle.
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:31:00 - [60] Originally by: Mortecai Edited by: Mortecai on 23/10/2008 13:43:13 Please, can you guys stop the kb whining. You guys really make yourself look like stat whoring carebears. It used to be that you guys actually wrote about interesting stuff and and not meta-gaming killboard "my stats are bigger than yours oh no they are not cause our ISK kills are bigger that yours cause we keep the prices correct" chestbeating. Find that old "you" again, it's hard to respect pilots that live in "killboard" mode, allies or not. Edit: Olex in his last post mentioned all this already, but I think he was to subtle. lol very true.. I could care less about a kb tbh personally.. In fact I think a kb is a tactical disadvantage.. but thats another debate... More pew.. less talk. Some good random skirmishes over the last few days.
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.23 19:22:00 - [61] Edited by: Rajere on 23/10/2008 19:25:30 You guys squabble over your respective kb stats here on CAOD, accuse one another of not posting losses, of "cherry picking" statistics to use for campaigns, etc and so forth, for what is ultimately a "who fails less" award. HF boards shows they have 52.9% efficiency (10.2bil destroyed) vs TRS's 47.1% (9.1bil destroyed). TRS's kb claims HF has a 54.9% efficiency (15.7bil destroyed) vs TRS's 45.1% (12.9bil destroyed). Both of your campaigns began on the same day and have run for 43 days so far. You're obviously using different values, HF's is for isk loss after insurance, TRS is using jita market cost. Not that it really matters, cus both of your efficiencies are just god awful, you guys are fighting over not being last place in the special olympics race tbh. While not precisely the same, the ship values between NOTR and HF's kbs are close enough that we can make general comparisions between the two of you and NOTR: This #@#$ is B A N A N A S Campaign represents our corps activity since we began reforming No Trademark and reunited in y9g on 10/19/08. We've killed 75% as much isk as HF has killed of TRS since the start of the campaign, and we've killed 83% as much ISK as TRS has killed of HF since the start of the campaign. Both Campaigns are stats over the last 43 days. Except we did it in our first 3 1/2 days. You are 300+ and 550+ man alliances respectively, and each part of 1k+ man nap-fest coalitions. We are 12 guys, with 15 characters total so far. At the time of this writing, we have a ~93.68% efficiency, and that includes doing things like suiciding t1 cruisers to fighter bomb CNR's in the middle of a 30man battleship fleets which are sieging someone else's POS, warping geddons in to hostile deathstars to tackle dreadnaught's, scouting with plated/trimarked battleships, tackling with falcons, and other such hilarious antics which aren't really advisable, yet we're somehow capable of winging on the fly, as we're completely disorganized collection of smack talking pirates and never plan further than the next kill. We kill everyone, and have no blues. There. If you're going to smack each other over killboards, atleast have something worth smacking about.
Anja Lind Nation of Muppets	Posted - 2008.10.23 19:39:00 - [62] Edited by: Anja Lind on 23/10/2008 19:38:42 whoops wrong thread
Khamal Kahn No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.23 20:02:00 - [63] swat is the best pvp outfit in syndicate c/d?
The Dribber Amarr Black Screen of Death HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.23 21:55:00 - [64] Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 23/10/2008 19:25:30 While not precisely the same, the ship values between NOTR and HF's kbs are close enough that we can make general comparisions between the two of you and NOTR: This #@#$ is B A N A N A S Campaign represents our corps activity since we began reforming No Trademark and reunited in y9g on 10/19/08. We've killed 75% as much isk as HF has killed of TRS since the start of the campaign, and we've killed 83% as much ISK as TRS has killed of HF since the start of the campaign. Both Campaigns are stats over the last 43 days. Except we did it in our first 3 1/2 days. You are 300+ and 550+ man alliances respectively, and each part of 1k+ man nap-fest coalitions. We are 12 guys, with 15 characters total so far. At the time of this writing, we have a ~93.68% efficiency, and that includes doing things like suiciding t1 cruisers to fighter bomb CNR's in the middle of a 30man battleship fleets which are sieging someone else's POS, warping geddons in to hostile deathstars to tackle dreadnaught's, scouting with plated/trimarked battleships, tackling with falcons, and other such hilarious antics which aren't really advisable, yet we're somehow capable of winging on the fly, as we're completely disorganized collection of smack talking pirates and never plan further than the next kill. We kill everyone, and have no blues. There. If you're going to smack each other over killboards, atleast have something worth smacking about. I believe its easier to keep efficiency high with a small group of pvpers that go out in-gang specifically to pvp together than a large alliance of "do what you will during the day, but we will get a gang together at x 'o clock" players. ;) Also, with just the 12 of you, your more likely to be able to cherry pick your fights. But, 3 well earned cap kills i guess ;)
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.23 22:30:00 - [65] Quote: We are 12 guys, with 15 characters total so far This is why your efficiency is so high. Simple rules of math and logic there. Its much much easier to keep a better efficieny with less numbers.. either way.. good job though it is a good efficiency. Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter. http://www.eve-trs.com
Mauddib77 Zero Divide The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:20:00 - [66] /me gives Raijre a cookie
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.24 14:52:00 - [67] Originally by: Mauddib77 /me gives Raijre a cookie careful, showing favoritism might cause them to failcascade again. -- Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
brain damaged No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:46:00 - [68] Originally by: Faife Originally by: Mauddib77 /me gives Raijre a cookie careful, showing favoritism might cause them to failcascade again. failcascade? we left syndicate because of all the pos warfare.... yes its fun to kills caps and all but it get to a point were its boring. same crap different day. and besides, like we have mentioned before we were planning on leaving syndicate WAYYYYYY before any of the pos warfare started. the only reason we stuck around was because we had a dyspro moon and that held us in TA for an extra few months til we lost it....
Otto Phalanx No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:19:00 - [69] Originally by: brain damaged Originally by: Faife Originally by: Mauddib77 /me gives Raijre a cookie careful, showing favoritism might cause them to failcascade again. failcascade? we left syndicate because of all the pos warfare.... yes its fun to kills caps and all but it get to a point were its boring. same crap different day. and besides, like we have mentioned before we were planning on leaving syndicate WAYYYYYY before any of the pos warfare started. the only reason we stuck around was because we had a dyspro moon and that held us in TA for an extra few months til we lost it.... you didnt want that moon anyway amirite?
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.24 20:42:00 - [70] Quote: I believe its easier to keep efficiency high with a small group of pvpers that go out in-gang specifically to pvp together than a large alliance of "do what you will during the day, but we will get a gang together at x 'o clock" players. ;) Also, with just the 12 of you, your more likely to be able to cherry pick your fights. But, 3 well earned cap kills i guess ;) If by cherry picking fights you mean "engaging anything that's not docked/cloaked regardless of how suicidal it appears to be, going out of our way to scour space surrounding our constellation looking for anything and everything to kill, extreme smack talking the 35 people docked in our constellation to grow a pair and undock against our 5 man gang, til they either fight us or leave our space (they chose to move out)," then yes, we certainly have been cherry picking our fights.
IronGoldenEagle Destroyers Of the Freeworld THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.25 06:53:00 - [71] Good fight today Huzzah! We brought it and yall won fair and square. WOOT WOOT Syndicate pwns at pvp
the plague Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.25 11:01:00 - [72] Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Good fight today Huzzah! We brought it and yall won fair and square. WOOT WOOT Syndicate pwns at pvp Was indeed a great slug fest and proud to be part of it.. props for bringing it 3 times in a row :) happy pew pew
boobookittywhat Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2008.10.25 11:23:00 - [73] I dont often post here but last nights battle <3 To RS and allies SWEET fight mad props for the 2nd and 3rd rounds keep it up EXM
Nova Z Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.25 11:28:00 - [74] Originally by: boobookittywhat I dont often post here but last nights battle <3 To RS and allies SWEET fight mad props for the 2nd and 3rd rounds keep it up EXM Seconded - last night made me remember why I play Eve More pls? . DECO RECRUITING NOW
El Covah LOCKDOWN. HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.25 18:19:00 - [75] The fights last night where marvelous and fun. Not very much lag (thx CCP!). Total kills on both sides must be roughly 150-200. TRS and Friends finally brought it and showed balls after loosing the first two rounds to come out for a third round. My respect for that. I hope we get more of that.
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.25 22:30:00 - [76] If I could make a humble request, could I get a general overview of the parties in play here? Nothing detailed or specific of course, just what you'd give to an outsider curious about the goings ons in syndicate? Ya know, basic who's who, a vague estimate of where they live, and who's team they're pitching for? I assume the two teams are The Red Skull and Huzzah Federation, or is there three teams? bruce (well ex) being a third party? they've said they'd side with Huzzah over TRS if it came down to it, or something to that effect. What about PURE? and SWAT? they both seem to be living in Solitude? Thanks in advance for the helpful information that's sure to follow this request -------------------------- NOTR How to Fail at Eve
The Dribber Amarr Black Screen of Death HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.26 06:18:00 - [77] Edited by: The Dribber on 26/10/2008 06:20:05 Originally by: Rajere If I could make a humble request, could I get a general overview of the parties in play here? Nothing detailed or specific of course, just what you'd give to an outsider curious about the goings ons in syndicate? Ya know, basic who's who, a vague estimate of where they live, and who's team they're pitching for? I assume the two teams are The Red Skull and Huzzah Federation, or is there three teams? bruce (well ex) being a third party? they've said they'd side with Huzzah over TRS if it came down to it, or something to that effect. What about PURE? and SWAT? they both seem to be living in Solitude? Thanks in advance for the helpful information that's sure to follow this request Its Huzzah, The Red Skull and Thorn Alliance, all living in PC9. Hence, i assume, the OP's "cluster****" description. ....iz naize! but ofc, there are peeps from other corps and alliances on both sides getting in on the pew pew too.
El Covah LOCKDOWN. HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.26 08:08:00 - [78] In the blue corner we have Huzzah (originaly living in PC9 cluster) + EXM (friends of us living in Syndicate too) + Tygris (friends of us living in Y9G cluster) In the red corner we have The Red Skull (coming to PC9 when we where absent on our S-U "roadtrip") + Thorn Alliance (moved in later) + Ocularis Inferno (do not see them much) + Controlled Chaos + The Convenant Alliance Featuring some guest appearences by SWAT (neutral to both) On a sidenote: Thank you all for yesterdays evening again. Was a total blast!
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.26 08:29:00 - [79] I havent seen covenant in over a month.. might want to remove them. We need to add another corner though.. there are more!! lol (dead parrots, forged, etc). Signature removed. File size is larger than the allowed limit of 24000 bytes and content is in no way related to EVE Online. Navigator Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter. http://www.eve-trs.com
the plague Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.26 09:32:00 - [80] Once again another massive fight in pc9 last night and once again props to all involved!! you gotto love syndicate :)
staaavish No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.26 18:45:00 - [81] Originally by: El Covah In the blue corner we have Huzzah (originaly living in PC9 cluster) + EXM (friends of us living in Syndicate too) + Tygris (friends of us living in Y9G cluster) Lets be honest here. Do you really think Tygris live in Y9G Cluster? I log in ANY time and all Tygris RAN for the hills with ZERO fight. The only people in the TA Constellation are some fails in AZ that wont fight either, they try to ninja rat their existance. Thank you. Have a nice day.
Wayne Dibbly	Posted - 2008.10.26 20:01:00 - [82] Edited by: Wayne Dibbly on 26/10/2008 20:03:24
Bartfast BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.26 20:03:00 - [83] Edited by: Bartfast on 26/10/2008 20:05:29 Having gone 1-0 down to an early own goal in pc9 (moros) Huzzah have played a blinder just before half time with a great long ball into empire and captured a Redskull freighter ... Half time has seen a few changes in personnel with the arrival of thorn alliance who have enjoyed a lot of possession but have not really made it count ... Last night saw thorn and Redskull launch an attack but huzzah hit back with a classic counter attack going 2-1 up with a moros kill then 3-1 up taking a thanatos down shortly afterwards plus support Skirmish warfare continues with Huzzah holding the upper ground Only time will if late into the second half thorn and RedSkull will fight back ...
Barnaby Jones Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.27 00:54:00 - [84] Originally by: El Covah In the blue corner we have Huzzah (originaly living in PC9 cluster) + EXM (friends of us living in Syndicate too) + Tygris (friends of us living in Y9G cluster) Let's not forget the support from Fire Mandrill and cap support from 0mega Factor who came to help Huzzah. The last few battles were some serious carnage. Props to all who participated, it was fun.
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.27 02:37:00 - [85] NOTR came back home to TA-A7V on 10/19. Tygris moved out of TA-A7V the next day. They live in PVH now. -------------------------- NOTR How to Fail at Eve
Corresto	Posted - 2008.10.27 08:43:00 - [86] Edited by: Corresto on 27/10/2008 08:44:18 nothing to see here... move along
Adril Alatar Minmatar Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.27 08:46:00 - [87] Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 27/10/2008 08:19:24 Quote: In the blue corner we have Huzzah (originaly living in PC9 cluster) + EXM (friends of us living in Syndicate too) + Tygris (friends of us living in Y9G cluster) In the red corner we have The Red Skull (coming to PC9 when we where absent on our S-U "roadtrip") + Thorn Alliance (moved in later) + Ocularis Inferno (do not see them much) + Controlled Chaos + The Convenant Alliance Featuring some guest appearences by SWAT (neutral to both) NOTR came back home to TA-A7V on 10/19. Tygris moved out of TA-A7V the next day. They live in PVH now. SWAT was living next door in Pertnineere (solitude), they have moved as well to an unknown location. I take it 0mega factor are also in the Huzzah camp? Also Phoenix Rising, they in the Red Skull camp? JQV seems to be inhabited by ex-bruce, The Dead Parrot Shoppe and Shade. corps. The last thing I heard about syndicate before we moved back was that Huzzah was moving out of JQV back into PC9, and that SWAT lived in JQV. I assumed bruce booted SWAT out, and then tygris reset swat or something? I thought SWAT and Tygris were blue with each other, even though huzzah and SWAT had reset each other? Or did tygris and huzzah reset SWAT at the same time? I can't speak for anyone else in my corp, and NOTR officially does not care about politics or blues so I cannot speak for my corp as a whole, but when we first got back I personally favored Red Skull over Huzzah, but now I have no preference, red skull are just as blobby as the rest. Fire Mandrill and Omega Factor are blue to us. Phoenix Rising are not in any camp i believe. We got a few kills on them in Reb and 6-C. None of them came ever into PC9 pocket. Covenant moved out of PC9 pocket late september i guys... thats what our killboard suggests... maybe some of them 24/7 docked up in zn0 or t22 :D
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.27 09:08:00 - [88] Edited by: Rajere on 27/10/2008 09:09:34 I'm pretty sure Phoenix Rising Alliance are in the Red Skull camp, as they were camping one of our gangs into t22 along with Red Skull and others, and not shooting one another. In our trips into pc9, I've not seen ocularis or covenant. Setting orange standings for Redskull/Thorn cleared local up of neutrals, until Phoenix Rising showed up, and setting them orange as well once again cleared local of neutrals. Now if we could just have about 5 more colors for hostiles then we could color code everybody and leave Neutral for truly unknown targets. We even debated using light blue to color code the bruce faction, but it would end up causing too many problems with people not adjusting their overviews to take them into account or getting out of the mindset that light blue = friendly.
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.27 13:18:00 - [89] Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 27/10/2008 09:09:34 I'm pretty sure Phoenix Rising Alliance are in the Red Skull camp, as they were camping one of our gangs into t22 along with Red Skull and others, and not shooting one another. In our trips into pc9, I've not seen ocularis or covenant. Setting orange standings for Redskull/Thorn cleared local up of neutrals, until Phoenix Rising showed up, and setting them orange as well once again cleared local of neutrals. Now if we could just have about 5 more colors for hostiles then we could color code everybody and leave Neutral for truly unknown targets. We even debated using light blue to color code the bruce faction, but it would end up causing too many problems with people not adjusting their overviews to take them into account or getting out of the mindset that light blue = friendly. Having additional colors would be a very good feature... I have been *****ing about it with my alliance and corp for a long time. In a place like Syndicate with the ever changing scenery you really need it. Maybe one day..
Namelesz Viscosity Ocularis Inferno	Posted - 2008.10.27 20:21:00 - [90] I'll send out the apologies for the Ocularis non-sightings...basically our timezone conflict with when targets wish to fly around...c'est la vie!
GS Armada Caldari Omega Enterprises 0mega Factor	Posted - 2008.10.27 20:51:00 - [91] Edited by: GS Armada on 27/10/2008 20:52:27 Originally by: El Covah In the blue corner we have Huzzah (originaly living in PC9 cluster) + EXM (friends of us living in Syndicate too) + Tygris (friends of us living in Y9G cluster) In the red corner we have The Red Skull (coming to PC9 when we where absent on our S-U "roadtrip") you forgot one for in the blue corner thank you:P + Thorn Alliance (moved in later) + Ocularis Inferno (do not see them much) + Controlled Chaos + The Convenant Alliance Featuring some guest appearences by SWAT (neutral to both) On a sidenote: Thank you all for yesterdays evening again. Was a total blast! you forgot one thank you very much:P
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.27 23:12:00 - [92] Edited by: Rajere on 27/10/2008 23:14:16 There's now 2 more titans that will die soon in or around the syndicate area? There's a 3rd we've been watching getting ready to surprise sex shortly. forum intel is the best intel. Be seeing you soon. -------------------------- NOTR How to Fail at Eve
Moridin Bashere The Hull Miners Union The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.27 23:45:00 - [93] Originally by: GS Armada Edited by: GS Armada on 27/10/2008 21:58:22 red skulls think about this for a while before you make any rash comments http://www.eve-trs.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=3664 That night rocked after coming back from sushi and beer, drunk as hell to get our small fleet hotdropped by 2 titans. btw what comment do you consider rash so I can see them again? Co-Ceo The Hull Miners Union [ONION] Hull Miners is Recruiting!!
Guru Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2008.10.28 00:23:00 - [94] Originally by: GS Armada Edited by: GS Armada on 27/10/2008 21:58:22 red skulls think about this for a while before you make any rash comments http://www.eve-trs.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=3664 you have put the fear into us.. im not sure what we will do now.. Mind Over Matter: If I dont mind it dont matter. http://www.eve-trs.com
ChalSto LOCKDOWN.	Posted - 2008.10.28 00:31:00 - [95] Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 27/10/2008 23:14:16 There's now 2 more titans that will die soon in or around the syndicate area? There's a 3rd we've been watching getting ready to surprise sex shortly. forum intel is the best intel. Be seeing you soon. U cant count
El Covah LOCKDOWN. HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.28 13:44:00 - [96] Originally by: ChalSto Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 27/10/2008 23:14:16 There's now 2 more titans that will die soon in or around the syndicate area? There's a 3rd we've been watching getting ready to surprise sex shortly. forum intel is the best intel. Be seeing you soon. U cant count No he can't
brain damaged No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.28 15:20:00 - [97] i would like to apologize for raj's nonsense. he tends to forget to take his meds and just starts to ramble. we (notr) look forward to some pew pew back in syndicate :-).... u'll know where we'll be :-)
Otto Phalanx No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.28 15:22:00 - [98] what brain said tbfh ^^ B A N A N A S
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2008.10.29 02:18:00 - [99] sorry I fail at maths :/ 0mega Factor has confirmed to us that they have relocated from TA-A7V to Verge Vendor, low sec empire space. Sorry Huzzah, I know it looks like we're picking on your brosefs, but that's just cus they were in the way. We'll start shooting redskull guys more to even things out a bit. -------------------------- NOTR How to Fail at Eve
Ceratin Amarr Omega Enterprises 0mega Factor	Posted - 2008.10.29 05:54:00 - [100] Originally by: Rajere sorry I fail at maths :/ 0mega Factor has confirmed to us that they have relocated from TA-A7V to Verge Vendor, low sec empire space. Sorry Huzzah, I know it looks like we're picking on your brosefs, but that's just cus they were in the way. We'll start shooting redskull guys more to even things out a bit. Damnit.. No-one told me we'd moved ------------

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