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Celora Venustas	Posted - 2008.10.21 12:46:00 - [1] What are yours and your corp's thoughts on griefers and pirates? Been harassed by some in the past? Received threats? War decÆd? EveryoneÆs had an experience involving griefers. Many of us are at war with them right now! Griefers are the worst kind of people in the Eve Community - Always picking on newbies or miners/industrialists and harassing them; Smack talking, deliberately trying to make corporations fall apart. TheyÆve even made people quit the game! All for enjoyment, or for racking up numbers on a killboard, either way, itÆs pathetic. TheyÆre cowards! One particular griefer, these guys are really sad, they killed an alt in a noob ship 10 times in a row and posted it on their killboard to raise their kill ratio. Everyone has been affected by these despicable people, whether itÆs a bunch of industrialists, a newbie corp, young players from any corp. If not you personally, certainly your friends or corpmates have been affected. The time has come for change. The good people of the Eve Community have HAD ENOUGH! ItÆs time to stand up and fight! Time for payback! Time to fight for what is right! Fight for JUSTICE! Time to put an end to the terror (grief)! Time to unite the clans (corps)! Join me and help me to forge the greatest highsec alliance the Eve Galaxy has ever seen! Join the uprising! Join us, and together weÆll sweep across the empire space bringing death and destruction to the offenders! Punishing them for their crimes! Are you excited? ItÆs time to get psyched! Put end the terror (grief)! (and yes... this was intended to sound like something out of an epic movie =P) Griefers Beware... The End is Near!
Celora Venustas	Posted - 2008.10.21 12:48:00 - [2] Edited by: Celora Venustas on 21/10/2008 12:48:46 There are many corps and alliances out there that hate these griefer corps. They consist of all kinds of people, from miners/industrialists to mission runners. A lot of these corps are rather young, some are older. Some have experienced players, some have noobs, most are a mix. Most of these corps are anti-piracy, anti griefers, anti smack talkers. A lot of them are democratically run, designed to be as fair as possible to their members. A lot are designed for helping players, a lot are just a place for people to call home where they are all independent and just fly under the same tag. There are so many good corps/alliances out there, all are very similar in many ways. Their biggest problems are numbers, a lot of them are recruiting, but struggle to find any. ItÆs time for them all to unite! A consortium of corporations and alliances all in the one alliance. No mandatory ops or any annoying things such as taxes. Just a bunch of organizations who all have similar values and agree on certain rules. An alliance where corporations can still be entirely independent if they choose. Just they work together to destroy enemies and to wipe the galaxy clean of the griefer filth that infests it. An alliance that will make the very foundations of high sec space tremble. There will be talks as the fleets fly through space. Griefer corps will panic. Every time they log on theyÆll see red stars in their local chat. The griefers will have to watch their backs everywhere they go. Their members wonÆt be able to take it anymore. They will fall apart. Finally the pilots of Eve Empire space will be free again! Griefers Beware... The End is Near!
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.10.21 12:49:00 - [3] ((in-character ♪♫on-lyyyy♫♪)) - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Vharl Ochre Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:17:00 - [4] Is it now that I get to ask for your stuff?
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:24:00 - [5] Does this mean you're going to bring a bunch of people to lowsec? I know of loads of places where nasty people hang out who would love to meet you and your "alliance" Just give it a month or so until RLÖ allows me back in game then contact me and we can arrange a meeting. A Pirates Perspective
Wobbly Hog	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:26:00 - [6] Er....ummmm....wouldnt this make YOU griefers??
Beth Dei Gallente 242nd Front	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:27:00 - [7] Edited by: Beth Dei on 21/10/2008 13:29:55 Originally by: Celora Venustas Every time they log on theyÆll see red stars in their local chat. So it'll be like the good old Privateer alliance in reverse? A bunch of people who have up to this point done nothing but fail and whine about it, using game mechanics to allow themselves to be engaged anywhere? Sign me up! Also: Originally by: Celora Venustas Most of these corps are anti-piracy, anti griefers, anti smack talkers. Carebears are the biggest smacktards in the game. I've never met antipirates that weren't douches in some respect.
Celora Venustas	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Wobbly Hog Er....ummmm....wouldnt this make YOU griefers?? umm no. It's punishing the griefers for their wrong doing. It's giving the Highsec community their freedom back! These "griefers" aren't your ordinary corps war dec'ing over disputes or asteroids etc.. they're People who deliberately want to ruin the game for others. Nothing wrong with mercs, and pirates if that's what you're doing as a role. Griefers Beware... The End is Near!
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:36:00 - [9] Quote: It's giving the Highsec community their freedom back! Shit, so you're not bringing everyone to lowsec :( A Pirates Perspective
ScaR97731	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:39:00 - [10] Good idea, but what happens after all the griefers of EVE have been eliminated? Does this huge, collection of corps, and alliances disband, or does it in time slowly degenerate into an orgy of corruption, greed, and violence against its own self, and other large, super alliances? Such is the historical pattern of the very stupid, human race.

ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:48:00 - [11] Way to paint a huge target on your chests once you create this alliance. Please keep us updated on your progress so we know when you're worth deccing.
Celora Venustas	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:52:00 - [12] Originally by: ScaR97731 Good idea, but what happens after all the griefers of EVE have been eliminated? Does this huge, collection of corps, and alliances disband, or does it in time slowly degenerate into an orgy of corruption, greed, and violence against its own self, and other large, super alliances? Such is the historical pattern of the very stupid, human race. Not too sure what will happen once the despicable griefers have become extinct, perhaps have a crack at 0.0? Punish other wrong doings? There will be very basic rules that must never be broken. Players/Corps will likely be voted to be expelled or punished etc. Griefers Beware... The End is Near!
Mitamonehjsd	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Celora Venustas Nothing wrong with mercs, and pirates if that's what you're doing as a role. Rawwwwwr I'm a rp pirates and I act accordingly. So when I'm at sea I avoid the navy and target only the merchant navy. If, bad pure bad luck, I have a letter of marque against a corporation that field only wealthy merchant navy against me then I consider it's my duty to continue the roleplaying. Wow, I'm confused now... the definition of griefers, pirates, anti-pirates are so blurry. Quick, quick we need the eve-wiki to be able to put labels!! Or we can ask to have "jobs certificate" so we can know who's who. I'll be a thief, hmmm no I'll be a warrior, hmmm princess? Oh yeah, I'll be a princess...
Golden Helmet Caldari The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:54:00 - [14] Can't... stop.... laughing.... Come to Avenod, silly little carebears. I'll show ya how Eve works The Python Cartel is recruiting low sec pirates!
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2008.10.21 13:57:00 - [15] Quote: Not too sure what will happen once the despicable griefers have become extinct, Hate to bring you down from LaLa land but you do know this will never happen. A Pirates Perspective
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:03:00 - [16] Originally by: ScaR97731 orgy of corruption Posting in thread with a great phrase =D +1 On that note, all this is doing is painting a huge target on the back of your ship. A good griefer will pay attention and catch you at your most vulnerable; they would probably revel in the amount of loot that your barges, exhumers, industrials, and occasional freighters will drop.
Celora Venustas	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:07:00 - [17] did u read the whole post? there are a lot of players who have been effected by griefers. there are a lot of corps and alliances all are very much the same as eachother. this is just a matter of bringing them together. How the hell do you think GoonSwarm started? They mass recruited noobs and all grew together. I'm not surprised that this thread is getting a lot of negative replies. This is a game forum full of negative forum trolls. 90% of the forums is all negative replies and arguments.. Nevertheless, I thank you for your interest and your replies to increase pubicity =) Griefers Beware... The End is Near!
Kirra Liu Gemini Industries Inc	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Celora Venustas Griefer corps will panic. Every time they log on theyÆll see red stars in their local chat. So your plan is to give these "griefers" free war's and constant targets. I think you will be well liked indeed. Also, you say that you will have rules set etc, but what happens when you see a corp that you just don't like, no reason apart from the fact that you just never really got along, probably war dec them, then some other random people. Finally you will become the griefer in the Op and will say things like "Yarr" and "OMG DIE NOOB" in local.
Eschiava Q Minmatar Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:09:00 - [19] Originally by: Celora Venustas Edited by: Celora Venustas on 21/10/2008 12:48:46 ... Griefer corps will panic. Every time they log on theyÆll see red stars in their local chat. Hey, we live for red stars in our local chat! It's why we pay for wardecs every week. If you guys are willing to take on that expense then I fully support this idea!
Mithos Victus Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:11:00 - [20] While it's a nice thought... in some respects, I don't think you realize the monumental logistics required behind such a move. Furthermore, without the approval of most critical Alliances in the game, this is never going to fly. Lastly, you have to ask yourself, what is the reason 50% of the player base hugs Empire to begin with? They do not want to fight.

Kirra Liu Gemini Industries Inc	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Celora Venustas How the hell do you think GoonSwarm started? They mass recruited noobs and all grew together. I'm not surprised that this thread is getting a lot of negative replies. This is a game forum full of negative forum trolls. 1- So you want to be the next GoonSwarm? 2- You will probably find that this forums section is giving you lots of negative replys because this is where all the cool griefers and pirates hang out, along with a few lame carebears like myself So duh! Note to self, get a sig made with Duh! on it.
Varus Riaz Gallente Sarissa Defense Group	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:17:00 - [22] Edited by: Varus Riaz on 21/10/2008 14:17:12 Having a giant alliance full of carebear corps isn't the best idea to deter griefers. All this is going to do is get them to swarm all over you due to the large number of targets presented by a single dec. If your goal is to continue to run missions and mine in high-sec, this will backfire.
JOSEPHx Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:17:00 - [23] Sounds like a brilliant idea, i wish you lots of luck and hope you can gather as many righteous players to your cause as possible. What's the name of the alliance and where do you hang out? I'll get a vote on. -
Celora Venustas	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:30:00 - [24] Originally by: Kirra Liu Originally by: Celora Venustas Griefer corps will panic. Every time they log on theyÆll see red stars in their local chat. So your plan is to give these "griefers" free war's and constant targets. I think you will be well liked indeed. Also, you say that you will have rules set etc, but what happens when you see a corp that you just don't like, no reason apart from the fact that you just never really got along, probably war dec them, then some other random people. Finally you will become the griefer in the Op and will say things like "Yarr" and "OMG DIE NOOB" in local. perhaps if i was an idiot but no... one of the rules is no smack talking Griefers Beware... The End is Near!
Traidor Disloyal Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.10.21 14:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Celora Venustas there are a lot of players who have been effected by griefers. there are a lot of corps and alliances all are very much the same as each other. this is just a matter of bringing them together. Never going to happen with the people in High Sec. They will not band together for the Greater Good. They will run to Momma CCP to moan and groan that the Bad People are giving them grief. They will never do anything for themselves. Some of them are so screwed up that a 5 man corp can cause trouble for an alliance like Space Weaponry and Trade due to the carebears in the alliance not knowing how to work together. --------------------------------------------- I'd post with my main but he was banned.
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.21 15:03:00 - [26] There's always the band of CAS guys who gather up every now and then to go into 0.0 to kill "pirates". Of course, they always die in the end, but I find it pretty neat when carebears in noob corps grow teeth and will actually try to work together.
the Entity Fah King Corp	Posted - 2008.10.21 15:13:00 - [27] Edited by: the Entity on 21/10/2008 15:13:56 what a place to post this anti-naughtiness thread GD is that way ----> your preaching to the devils here my fluffy friend, and i for one enjoy the tears i can picture as u typed all that in a vent of frustration etc.. please post here more often edit-im not a griefer,but makes me want to be now!! _______________________ is this my sig? no this is :P
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War Exalted.	Posted - 2008.10.21 15:21:00 - [28] PLEASE do this, much easier to dec one alliance than xxxx nub corps :P Im sure you'll find that you're being griefed much more than before you formed your alliance-for-the-shitty-and-weak.
UrsaeMajoris	Posted - 2008.10.21 15:21:00 - [29] Edited by: UrsaeMajoris on 21/10/2008 15:21:33 And just how do you define when an individual/corp/alliance meets your criteria of being griefers? For example, if a guy was to can flip you - would you immediately dismiss this as griefing? Said can-flipper may just be looking for a fun fight or to ransom you as a source of isk income or he may really be a griefer. Point I'm trying to convey here is that true griefing isn't such an easy distinction to make and whatever it is in EVE that falls under the definition of "griefing" is always subjective. Just because a corp decs a bunch of industrialists doesn't mean their intentions are to grief - for most players, making tears usually takes a backseat to making ISK.
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.21 15:36:00 - [30] Edited by: DubanFP on 21/10/2008 15:51:02 Pirate/griefer here. Sorry but anti-pirates tend to be the biggest smacktards you'll ever meet. Most of these "griefers" are just out for fun and know how to take being beaten themselves because they've been on both sides. A carebear however will spend half an hour going into explicit detail on your death. Next time you find a "Griefer" Open a conversation with him and state something like "ahh, good job you got me" and chances are you'll see they're just out for fun and have a good conversation. P.S. Hate to burst your "hero" bubble here but Goonswarm are the guys that make your average "griefer" look like a saint. Members commonly even used the promise of recruitment to steal people's stuff and the leaders allow it. It's gotten to the point where scamming people of their stuff with promise of recruitment is almost synonymous with them. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't matter to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"



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