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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.10.22 22:53:00 -
[91]
Trolled hard.
In the event that this is not a troll, although I am 99.9% certain it is:
1. Prepare to get ****d.
2. Get the **** out.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.10.23 05:59:00 -
[92]
Finally someone will do something about griefers! I hate those people! They are the lowest of the lowest!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Prof Patpending
Bodgit and Scarper Industrial
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Posted - 2008.10.23 06:16:00 -
[93]
 Originally by: Celora Venustas
(and yes... this was intended to sound like something out of an epic movie =P)
Keep up the practice there buddy.
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Elienee
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Posted - 2008.10.23 08:01:00 -
[94]
Hehehe...
Those hardcore players who call them PVP and the rest carebears, does not like that we carebeasr have a name on them: Griefers! Suck it up PVP boys, that is your negative nickname. Its about time you get on as well  |
Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.23 12:59:00 -
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I just grief griefers on the forums with my trusty alt.
I think I'm developing my own griefer fan base. And the hate evemails I get makes it all the more worthwhile  .
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Eschiava Q
Minmatar
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.23 13:30:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Elienee
Hehehe...
Those hardcore players who call them PVP and the rest carebears, does not like that we carebeasr have a name on them: Griefers! Suck it up PVP boys, that is your negative nickname. Its about time you get on as well
Griefer? You called me griefer? Ugh! That just cuts so deep, the pain, oh, the pain!
One thing I'll say about carebears though, they are great with talk. I just hope this goes beyond talk 'cause it'll be one of the best things to happen to pirates in a long time!
I can hardly wait for th time we'll be able to wardec a large percentaage of carebears with a single wardec. Unless you dec us first, of course. 
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Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.23 13:47:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Elienee
Those hardcore players who call them PVP and the rest carebears, does not like that we carebeasr have a name on them: Griefers! Suck it up PVP boys, that is your negative nickname. Its about time you get on as well
I wish I could post with my other character, but he was banned from the forums.
If he could post he would write:
I love being called a Griefer in local. It means I am doing my job.
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Demitria Fernir
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.23 15:15:00 -
[98]
if only OP was serious... |
Celora Venustas
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Posted - 2008.10.23 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Celora Venustas on 23/10/2008 16:31:15
this community is truly unique.... if u step into any other MMO.. like WoW for example... you people are like level 70s killing level 20s in WoW.. if you do that sort of thing you get slandered hardcore.
a real gamer goes to war with someone of similar or greater status. someone with a challenge.
killing new/young players is pathetic. (exceptions apply - smack talkers and ****heads)
if you can't understand the fact that this thread is purely about that.. then you seriously misunderstood the original post.
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Jenny Parker
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Posted - 2008.10.23 16:42:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Jenny Parker on 23/10/2008 16:42:25
I'm gonna grief you |
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Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:56:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Traidor Disloyal on 23/10/2008 17:59:11
Originally by: Celora Venustas
A Griefer in my book is one that picks ONLY on players much weaker than himself, and without any justifiable reason.
Well, that is just crap in my book. Here I thought my other character (the forum banned one) was a griefer but he isn't due to:
1. The 5 man corp he belongs to has war decced Space Weaponry And Trade, An alliance. A carebear one but still an alliance. An alliance who does not post their losses (shame on them ).
2. He helps kill mission runners in high sec who are more then capable of defending themselves.
3. He does kill others who are weaker then himself but he also has a reason for doing it. It's all about the explosions. The pretty pretty explosions.
And the reason the 5 man corp war decced SWAT was because they kicked us out for "griefing" in High Sec. Well aint that the ****s?
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Celora Venustas
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:16:00 -
[102]
perhaps i still wasn't clear enough... post edited.
Griefers Beware... The End is Near! |
Stele Toque
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:37:00 -
[103]
If I risk my neck for you, will I get a chance to kill Englishmen? |
soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Trinity Council
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:06:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Demitria Fernir
if only OP was serious...
this would be a good show
fixd
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Killian Bekker
Caldari
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.23 21:19:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Celora Venustas
this community is truly unique....
if u step into any other MMO. like WoW for example
This isn't any other MMO, it's EVE... It's most definitely NOT WoW and it would be great if people stopped trying to make it that way.
Now, back to the topic at hand. I'm an equal opportunist when it comes to being a Pirate. I steal cans/wrecks, break your missions in an effort for the fight that sometimes ensues. I want your loot, I want your ship and I want that ransom. How I get it isn't important, it's just that I get it.
Extortion, Camping and the plethora of tools at my disposal (allowed my CCP mind you) are simply game mechanics. I don't care if your new, old or simply ignorant. You are a source of income. If smacking you gets you to fight back (the end goal anyway) or simply hounding you until you pay me works, then that's simply hunting my target until I get what I want.
I applaud your effort to praise Pirates and Mercs while despising "griefers", but all too often the simple tools of our trade is being referred to as "griefing". There is NO line that makes that distinction. One man's grief is another man's understanding that the game simply allows that to occur.
Yes, I agree that there is a point where it's excessive, but being a newbie doesn't exempt you from the game either. The rules don't say I cannot attack player X because his age is Y, which is Z younger than me. Being new isn't an excuse to not know how the game is played.
If that player cannot handle that, when why continue to play EVE at all? I undock my ship every day and deal with the consequences of doing so. I engage in hostile acts and deal with the consequences. Why should any other pilot be any different? They choose to mine, but they don't have to engage me simply because I'm flashy red. That Mission Runner knows that this mission may blow his ship to scrap, so why is it different when I roll in flashy red? That Mission Runner can simply not engage and go about his business. Lose the mission, get a new one. If you really want me to go away, then DON'T play into my game.
You respond, you pique my interest. You've stood out. Now you will be hunted until I get what I want. Usually ISK or your ship in a slightly less assembled form. So, where's the line drawn? I'm a Pirate, but considered a "griefer" or "n00b" for what I do? What I'm allowed to do because the game was designed that way?
No. I'm not a "griefer", but I do cause grief. I do ruin your mission, your ratting experience or hours of mining. I do wardec those that don't pay up. I do hunt players that smack me. I do hunt those that don't give up their ship or their ISK. I am a hunter and I hunt bears... carebears.
I PvP with those that choose to engage. Those that wish to do harm upon my ship and my capsule. Those that seek to avenge their comrades, corp or ship. I am hunted by the new, the old and the ignorant alike. This is the consequences of my actions, but I do not complain. This is how the game is played.
This is our MMO and if someone can't handle it, then play all these other MMOs in which they find so much more merit that they must try and impose THAT game onto THIS one. This my friends, this is EVE and not the faint of hearts MMO! It's time some people learned to accept that. Life isn't fair. I pay to play EVE, not WoW or any other MMO. So the choice really is yours.
Undock? Are you sure? The cancel button is there for a reason. Yes? Then come and get a lesson in life. Nothing is free. Earn your keep and defend it well. Pay to live, or fight to live. A "griefer" isn't going to go away with your silly alliance. Their target list might shrink, but they will still be out there. Have you made yourself worth the effort? Do they want to die by your hand or through your money of another? Have you paid your respects? Again I ask. Undock? Are you sure?
If you can't answer this without a doubt in your mind. Then maybe EVE isn't for you. Undock? Are you sure? |
Eschiava Q
Minmatar
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.23 21:47:00 -
[106]
/me heartily applauds Killian
Very well siad! |
Celora Venustas
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Posted - 2008.10.24 11:20:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Celora Venustas on 24/10/2008 11:23:30
dude... you're completely right... but what has that got to do with this thread?
this thread isn't a complaint about griefer.... it's a thread about a war that is coming. and it's to generate interest from potential recruits.
Griefers are merely the target of this campaign and I only go into so much detail about them to raise the emotions people have felt towards them. It's advertising, persuasion....
Griefers Beware... The End is Near! |
PenisTugger
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Posted - 2008.10.24 12:06:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Stele Toque
If I risk my neck for you, will I get a chance to kill Englishmen?
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Would you give your lives for one chance, JUST one chance to say no, YOU CANNOT CAREBEAR
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.24 12:30:00 -
[109]
Carebears Aren't Players.
You want to revenge for griefers? call mercs.
You don't want to scratch that wonderfull CNR of yours now, do you? |
Lando Paladin
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Posted - 2008.10.24 13:22:00 -
[110]
The best thing they could do is simply stop people playing the entire game in NPC corps.
The biggest smacktards (both carebears and griefers) are permenant residents in NPC corps knowing full well they can use the aggression mechanics to dodge consequences for their griefing/smack.
Every player corp member knows whatever actions they take not only has consequences for them but their entire corp including empire. The ability to hide behind concord and a NPC corp free of a wardec is what allows the hardcore lone griefers/carebear smackers to operate and both groups are bad as each other.
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Stig Caldar
Exodus Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.10.24 16:27:00 -
[111]
This thread has fail written all over it.
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Killian Bekker
Caldari
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.24 21:26:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Celora Venustas
Griefers are merely the target of this campaign and I only go into so much detail about them to raise the emotions people have felt towards them. It's advertising, persuasion....
I understand completely. My post was directed at 2 types of people. First, the ones that think an alliance will deter, reduce or eliminate griefers is missing the fact that they won't go away and may be inspired to be worse. That's my opinion, but based off of observation of how griefers (in any game) seem to operate.
The second type are the ones that just grate my nerves. To be honest, most of my post was directed at them. Just easier to get the point across for the OP.
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Malka Badi'a
Suffoco Noctis
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Posted - 2008.10.25 16:48:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 25/10/2008 16:49:39
Originally by: Celora Venustas
This post was originally posted in a alliances/wars summit thread... why a GM moved the post to Crime & Punishment?? I don't know.
Because you're speaking about punishing random groups of pirating individuals. Punishing. Quote:
This isn't a thread complaining about griefers... it's a statement that a war is coming! I go into many details discussing why this war has begun.
Huh? You don't want to complain about griefers but you want an entire thread to declare war? That's like saying you don't like dirty floors, but don't want to complain about it, and then begin broadcasting on public television a cross-country event that involves Mr. Clean as your mascot. Quote:
Griefers are the worst kind of people in the Eve Community - Always picking on newbies or miners/industrialists and harassing them; Smack talking, deliberately trying to make corporations fall apart. TheyÆve even made people quit the game! All for enjoyment, or for racking up numbers on a killboard, either way, itÆs pathetic. TheyÆre cowards!
Cowards? I think your silly acts of taking smaller numbers and inferior fighters against a larger force isn't courageous, but absolutely ridiculous. A knight in shining armor against a group of a thousand is going to get his shiny ass handed to him. Story tales of heroics are nothing more than that, story tales. The good guy doesn't always win. Charging blindly into an oncoming horde isn't always a miracle victory. You despise us for our methods, yet you're the one unhappy at the end of the day. Quote:
The time has come for change.
Your methods are that of a amateur dreamer. Your tactics revolve around sheer emotion and hope. It's a perfect fitting if you were writing a novel. Unfortunately the only thing you'll be writing is a petition to CCP for the astonishing amount of lost ships. |
K1RTH G3RS3N
Hanzai Soshiki
BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.10.25 17:47:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Elienee
Hehehe...
Those hardcore players who call them PVP and the rest carebears, does not like that we carebeasr have a name on them: Griefers! Suck it up PVP boys, that is your negative nickname. Its about time you get on as well
griefers sounds better then carebear...
carebear - soft plushy re-animated toy bear with homosexual posterior
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Killian Bekker
Caldari
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.25 18:12:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Killian Bekker on 25/10/2008 18:12:58
Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N
griefers sounds better then carebear...
Lol, indeed. When's the last time a Pirate caused warm and fuzzy emotions when we plied our trade? |
Ulaanbator Tiki
The Yaar Offices of Pointe Webb and Podemall
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Posted - 2008.10.25 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Ulaanbator Tiki on 25/10/2008 18:57:16
Originally by: Kiki Arnolds
Glad you are on the scene, I'm a bantam pilot, and these big mean hulks keep stealing all the asteroids. THEY ARE GRIEFING ME!! Please come kill them... Also they litter the asteroid fields with old secure containers, it makes things really ugly, which is GRIEFING right? Please help me get rid of them all..
It sounds to me like you've witnessed several violations of the CONCORD Asteroid Protection Act, specifically Article 3, Sections B, C and F.
As one of the charter members of the Placid Asteroid Conservation Group, the Yaar Offices of Pointe, Webb and Podemall are very interested in bringing justice to all people who pollute our asteroid belts.
Please contact us at 1-800-LUV-ROID!
[I Brake 4 Roids]
[Save A Roid, Kill a Miner] |
wdwjhdw
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Posted - 2008.10.25 22:01:00 -
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Wardecs are getting changed anyway, as CCP regard them as pay-to grief in their current form, and have labeled them as "high priority"
You abuse a game mechanic, it gets nerfed.
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