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joxter Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:27:00 - [1] I am a carebear and am proud! Sign up below if you are a carebear and want CCP to stop trying to force us into losec or 0.0! We are the miners and producers and traders that make PvP possible, give us a good living in Empire with Decent protection from Concord and let the Pirates and anti-pirates play outside empire. United we stand, divided we fall. Lets hear from all the carebears out there! Flamers will be ignored and ridiculed as the piratical losers they are (unless they have a fat wallet and want to buy lots of gear!)
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:28:00 - [2] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 29/10/2008 08:28:11 Yes, stop forcing(are they?) carebears into lowsec/0.0 and give them reason to go to lowsec/0.0 Or should i say us...i dont' know if i'm a carebear My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:32:00 - [3] May I be eaten by bees tomorrow if CCP has ever done anything in like the past forever that has made Low Sec more appealing to anyone.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:34:00 - [4] I say lets give all carebears free carebeer (0.0% alcohol of course). sǝʎǝ ɹn ƃuıuınɹ `sɯnɹoɟ ɹn uı zı
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:34:00 - [5] Go play WoW. That's the game you are looking for. EVE Online is a spaceshipbattlegame. You sit in 5 stations with 5 accounts checking markets all day and comparing them with eachother. You don't need an MMO for that. Perhaps someday CCP will make a bear version of EVE that you can play offline. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Go play WoW. That's the game you are looking for. EVE Online is a spaceshipbattlegame. You sit in 5 stations with 5 accounts checking markets all day and comparing them with eachother. You don't need an MMO for that. Perhaps someday CCP will make a bear version of EVE that you can play offline. But you're sadly mistaken. Be sad. Like this EVE is what you want it to be. If you don't want spaceshipcombat, you don't have to do spaceshipcombat. If you want marketchecking and numbercrunching, you can d"Ok let's do this! LEEEEEEROOOOOY JEEEEEENKINBLARARGG!!!" Did he just warp in? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Mostly Amazing Go play WoW. That's the game you are looking for. EVE Online is a spaceshipbattlegame. You sit in 5 stations with 5 accounts checking markets all day and comparing them with eachother. You don't need an MMO for that. Perhaps someday CCP will make a bear version of EVE that you can play offline. But you're sadly mistaken. Be sad. Like this EVE is what you want it to be. If you don't want spaceshipcombat, you don't have to do spaceshipcombat. If you want marketchecking and numbercrunching, you can d"Ok let's do this! LEEEEEEROOOOOY JEEEEEENKINBLARARGG!!!" Did he just warp in? I would be oke with that if they didn't bother the real EVE playerbase: 1. But thanks to all the bears the server is heavily loaded with these kinds of bearish activities decreasing performance for us. 2. Petitions are full of "ohno my shuttle bpc has dissappeared, can u return it please?". 3. Whines on the forum. 4. Their own expansion. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
joxter Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Go play WoW. That's the game you are looking for. EVE Online is a spaceshipbattlegame. You sit in 5 stations with 5 accounts checking markets all day and comparing them with eachother. You don't need an MMO for that. Perhaps someday CCP will make a bear version of EVE that you can play offline. WoW sucks, now if they had a Sci-Fi version of wow... I have only 1 account, sure others have additional accounts but that is what they like to do so more power to them for having fun, I enjoy mining and mission running, flying against other players is not fun in any way and I avoid it at ALL costs, that is my fun and my choice. Until there is a Sci-Fi based game that does better than EVE I will be playing EVE.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:45:00 - [9] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 29/10/2008 08:45:37 Originally by: Mostly Amazing I would be oke with that if they didn't bother the real EVE playerbase: 1. But thanks to all the bears the server is heavily loaded with these kinds of bearish activities decreasing performance for us. 2. Petitions are full of "ohno my shuttle bpc has dissappeared, can u return it please?". 3. Whines on the forum. 4. Their own expansion. "Real" EVE player base? You're no more real then me, Chribba, the guy who plays around with markets all day or the guy who logs in to chat about football. If you play EVE, you're a real player and this is for all people, not just those who like to shoot stuff. I guess, "CS is that way --->" should be used as a fair point then? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Lord Windu Imperiosus Tutela	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Mostly Amazing I would be oke with that if they didn't bother the real EVE playerbase: You are sooo retarded. What makes you think that you are a "real" eve player and maybe myself or others aren't? Do we all pay the same subscription? Do we all play eve for leisure? Do you look so dumb right now that people are praying for more **ed up wisdom to be posted by you just so they can flame you to hell? Yeah I think so. P.S. Just so we get a good laugh out of this epic fail, what do you define a "real" eve player as being? Sig coming Soon&trade**
Esmenet	Posted - 2008.10.29 08:57:00 - [11] Originally by: joxter I am a carebear and am proud! Sign up below if you are a carebear and want CCP to stop trying to force us into losec or 0.0! We are the miners and producers and traders that make PvP possible, give us a good living in Empire with Decent protection from Concord and let the Pirates and anti-pirates play outside empire. United we stand, divided we fall. Lets hear from all the carebears out there! Flamers will be ignored and ridiculed as the piratical losers they are (unless they have a fat wallet and want to buy lots of gear!) Sure just ask ccp to make a PVE server.
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:01:00 - [12] Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 29/10/2008 09:03:41 Originally by: Esmenet Originally by: joxter I am a carebear and am proud! Sign up below if you are a carebear and want CCP to stop trying to force us into losec or 0.0! We are the miners and producers and traders that make PvP possible, give us a good living in Empire with Decent protection from Concord and let the Pirates and anti-pirates play outside empire. United we stand, divided we fall. Lets hear from all the carebears out there! Flamers will be ignored and ridiculed as the piratical losers they are (unless they have a fat wallet and want to buy lots of gear!) Sure just ask ccp to make a PVE server. ok, i'll bite on this fail thread. -OP, who says CCP is trying to force you into lowsec/empire?? -Esmenet, why would he ask CCP for a PVE server when he's just asking for the current status quo?? for added class you should have finished the OP with "this is our chance to carebear SHINE!" edit to add: anyone that uses the term "REAL playerbase" regarding this pretend world designed to do whatever you feel like from maximum risk to minimum, is more fail than this failthread. If you have a subscription thats as real as you get. You wont be any more real/important than a guy that only logs in to change his skills & spin.
joxter Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Originally by: Esmenet Originally by: joxter I am a carebear and am proud! Sign up below if you are a carebear and want CCP to stop trying to force us into losec or 0.0! We are the miners and producers and traders that make PvP possible, give us a good living in Empire with Decent protection from Concord and let the Pirates and anti-pirates play outside empire. United we stand, divided we fall. Lets hear from all the carebears out there! Flamers will be ignored and ridiculed as the piratical losers they are (unless they have a fat wallet and want to buy lots of gear!) Sure just ask ccp to make a PVE server. ok, i'll bite on this fail thread. -OP, who says CCP is trying to force you into lowsec/empire?? -Esmenet, why would he ask CCP for a PVE server when he's just asking for the current status quo?? for added class you should have finished the OP with "this is our chance to carebear SHINE!" I am mainly concerned with the rumors of Agents for lv4 missions being moved to losec, such a precedent would be very bad for carebears like myself who would be stuck doing lv3 missions (no way in HECK am I going into losec!!) I'm not too into the carebear SHINE thing but plenty of hugs for everyone!
Jane Retail	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Mostly Amazing I would be oke with that if they didn't bother the real EVE playerbase: 1. But thanks to all the bears the server is heavily loaded with these kinds of bearish activities decreasing performance for us. 2. Petitions are full of "ohno my shuttle bpc has dissappeared, can u return it please?". 3. Whines on the forum. 4. Their own expansion. You are angry, aren't you ?
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:14:00 - [15] Originally by: Mostly Amazing EVE Online is a spaceshipbattlegame. Actually it's not, read the header on the site but for reference it's a Quote: EVE Online - a massive multiplayer online roleplaying space game - MMORPG Now i'm no empire carebear, in fact i get more nervous in empire than I do in 0.0, but the beauty of this game is the ability but to be just about anything you want... PvP is sustainable for us that like it because of the so called empire carebears that sit doing there spreadsheets, and complex calcs on the best way to make a buck or 2. What CCP get right on occassion is balancing the game so it is attractive to many different gameplay styles and long may it continue. So if there is an imbalance in high sec empire and enough people have an issue with it then let them gripe and hope something is done about it.
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:18:00 - [16] Just because you pay your subscription, doesn't mean you are a real EVE player. Definition of a carebear: "A person who's activities in EVE can be completely substituted by a macro since they require no player interaction or creative thinking in any way" -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:24:00 - [17] Originally by: joxter I am mainly concerned with the rumors of Agents for lv4 missions being moved to losec, such a precedent would be very bad for carebears like myself who would be stuck doing lv3 missions (no way in HECK am I going into losec!!) As far as I understood, they just want to add more agents so people spread out more, to stop people cluttering the few specific mission hubs. I don't think they'll be so stupid as to remove the level 4 missions in highsec alltogether. Forcing people into lowsec is not going to work. There should be more rewards for those that DO go there though. --- CSM Campaign Thread
Sam Browne MYTHIC Developments Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:27:00 - [18] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Just because you pay your subscription, doesn't mean you are a real EVE player. Definition of a carebear: "A person who's activities in EVE can be completely substituted by a macro since they require no player interaction or creative thinking in any way" You having a nice time fishing? Plenty of bait on your hook..... but nothing really worth a bite. Bye. Swimming against the tide since 2003
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Just because you pay your subscription, doesn't mean you are a real EVE player. Definition of a carebear: "A person who's activities in EVE can be completely substituted by a macro since they require no player interaction or creative thinking in any way" So, a gatecamper by your definition is a carebear? 0.0 ratter/miner? While a market fiddler etc can't be a carebear. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
IR Scoutar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Mostly Amazing ..trolling.. I hear there is an exelent mmo out there that caters to your trolling needs by actualy letting you play one!
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:37:00 - [21] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Mostly Amazing Just because you pay your subscription, doesn't mean you are a real EVE player. Definition of a carebear: "A person who's activities in EVE can be completely substituted by a macro since they require no player interaction or creative thinking in any way" So, a gatecamper by your definition is a carebear? 0.0 ratter/miner? While a market fiddler etc can't be a carebear. You can say all you want, my definition still stands. I would rather have a world filled with chinese ISK farmers, because at least they put themselves into risky situation ratting in 0.0 and no matter how bad their english is, at least they attempt to make conversation with you in local. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Mostly Amazing You can say all you want, my definition still stands. I would rather have a world filled with chinese ISK farmers, because at least they put themselves into risky situation ratting in 0.0 and no matter how bad their english is, at least they attempt to make conversation with you in local. Yes, so you're a carebear and as such, need to leave by your definition. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
CALUGARU Repo Industries Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:45:00 - [23] who said that carebears don't go to 0.0? in 0.0 are the MOST carebears. when 300 people are in an alliance online, 200 are npcing. anyway. go ccp! get em' all into low sec! this is eveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ______________________ I like pie. No really, i do.
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:53:00 - [24] Or perhaps all the bears could play a text version of EVE! Bear 1 creates 5 units of Gallente Shuttle. Bear 2 creates 6 units of Gallente Shuttle. Bear 1 posts on the EVE-O forums about how it's unfair. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
CALUGARU Repo Industries Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:54:00 - [25] lol Furthermore, i do not think that this kind of behavior is accepted in any society or group. The nerve some people demostrate - is beyond comprehension! Why do people have signatures like this?!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:55:00 - [26] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Or perhaps all the bears could play a text version of EVE! Bear 1 creates 5 units of Gallente Shuttle. Bear 2 creates 6 units of Gallente Shuttle. Bear 1 posts on the EVE-O forums about how it's unfair. And what is it exactly, so "interaction and creative thinking" requiring, that you do in EVE? What makes you a REAL EVE player? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
HENODE PRAVIA Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.29 09:59:00 - [27] Originally by: Mostly Amazing Go play WoW. That's the game you are looking for. EVE Online is a spaceshipbattlegame. You sit in 5 stations with 5 accounts checking markets all day and comparing them with eachother. You don't need an MMO for that. Perhaps someday CCP will make a bear version of EVE that you can play offline. You need to mature... I've saw a lot much carebears in 0.0 than in hisec, where are also the alts of that "hardcore forums PvP's" farming lvls 4.... Real PvP'rs in any MMO don't have any concerns about carebears. it's simply the freedom of choice playstile & respect Xenos, Malleus,....Hereticus!!!
CALUGARU Repo Industries Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.10.29 10:06:00 - [28] Originally by: HENODE PRAVIA Originally by: Mostly Amazing it's simply the freedom of choice playstile & respect no it's not. i kill and grief them as much as i can Furthermore, i do not think that this kind of behavior is accepted in any society or group. The nerve some people demostrate - is beyond comprehension! Why do people have signatures like this?!
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.29 10:19:00 - [29] A. Eve is a sandbox; you make it what you want! B. Nobody should ever be 100% safe! C. You should not expect anyone else's play style to work with yours! D. E. Profit! If a player wants to play an Industrial/Marketer, who are any of us to have exception with that! Just the same goes for a Lowsec Pirate or a 0.0 Alliance member. Every player in Eve has their own play style and ideas, sometimes they overlap and someone gets ganked/blown up etc, etc. This shouldn't be looked at as a bad thing for it is a necessary risk (Agreed, Lowsec needs more incentive). As to CCP trying to force people into Lowsec/0.0, that's just rubbish. You have a choice on how you want to play and you don't have to go anywhere you don't want too! Saying that there are rewards for going out (Lowsec problem again!) but there are risks involved! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.10.29 10:26:00 - [30] We should fear the bear playstyle. Because the more bears are born the more CCP will focus their activities around them. Soon every expansion will be a bearspansion. -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing

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