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Gamesguy
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.29 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: CALUGARU who said that carebears don't go to 0.0? in 0.0 are the MOST carebears. when 300 people are in an alliance online, 200 are npcing. anyway.
go ccp! get em' all into low sec! this is eveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
The difference is the carebears in 0.0 dont have an aneurysm everytime they die the way empire carebears do.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.29 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sebea
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Mission runners, can't do with macro, too much variables, need to think or pop(especially in later levels). Market "runner", can't do with macro, need to think MORE then a gatecamper. From a numeral, accounting, etc point of view.
actually, there are tons of guys using market macros, seriously, watch the clockwork efficiency that certain sell orders change, and well, as far as mission macros go, its not really that hard, i mean, the guy probably needs to be semi at the cpu, to jump the acceleration gates, but once in, a macro could probably easily deal with the rats therein.
Anything can be done with macro, even PVP when pushed.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.29 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: HENODE PRAVIA
Originally by: Mostly Amazing Go play WoW. That's the game you are looking for.
EVE Online is a spaceshipbattlegame.
You sit in 5 stations with 5 accounts checking markets all day and comparing them with eachother. You don't need an MMO for that.
Perhaps someday CCP will make a bear version of EVE that you can play offline.
You need to mature... I've saw a lot much carebears in 0.0 than in hisec, where are also the alts of that "hardcore forums PvP's" farming lvls 4....
Real PvP'rs in any MMO don't have any concerns about carebears. it's simply the freedom of choice playstile & respect
I farm level 4s with my main 
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.29 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Esmenet
Sure just ask ccp to make a PVE server.
lol, they do that, then all the PVP'ers will complain that they can't afford ships any more as they lost too many ways to make isk to buy stuff. Man goes to the doc, with a strawberry growing out of his head. Doc says "I'll give you some cream to put on it." |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.29 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Mostly Amazing You can keep "quoting official quotes", but my definition of a carebear still stands.
I invite any carebear to prove me wrong by telling me how they are not following my definition.
Mission runners, can't do with macro, too much variables, need to think or pop(especially in later levels). Market "runner", can't do with macro, need to think MORE then a gatecamper. From a numeral, accounting, etc point of view.
Just as an example.
Still haven't answered anything i said, for example;
What do YOU do? And who's your daddy?
I will disagree with the mission runner bit. too many missions put out too much loldps
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Leto Atraities
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Posted - 2008.10.29 18:55:00 -
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i don't get it!
everyone here "PAYS" to play this game the way we all see fit sice after all we are.....ummmmm......"PAYING" for it! as long as we all play within the dynamics of this game ( yes CCP did make a carebare kingdom as well as gettin your yaaarrrr on down in low sec ) then how can either side be grippin on each other? can't fault each other for playing the way ya wanna play for witch ( yes i'm gonna say it again ) we all "PAY" for.
so i say "hey! your paying for it! so be happy with it!"
now can't we all just get along? 
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Sarabearrah
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.29 18:56:00 -
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I have been playing for a little over 3 months, mostly mining, so I guess that makes me a "carebear". Just a few days ago I finally got enough isk saved to get a hulk where I mine in 0.6~0.7 in person, not a macro. I don't bother anyone, most of the ore I mine is for manufacture and to add more ships and items to make the game more enjoyable. Maybe, in time, when my skills are more advanced I may want to move into PvP...who knows.
The game has blossomed into many things for me, mining, missions, manufacture, trade and even a little exploration. I don't feel any pressure from anyone to be or do anything I don't want, heck I don't even mind being called a "carebear" if that is what I am. I dont understand why people feel the need to put down another persons likes or dislikes.......what real purpose does that serve?
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.10.29 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: KISOGOKU on 29/10/2008 19:43:58 Forum wh***ing ,we have some forum warriors competing each others to have most post per day or total psot count instead playing game they spend their time at forums . I could not decide which one is worse Akita or Malkanis?
Originally by: Sarabearrah
I dont understand why people feel the need to put down another persons likes or dislikes.......what real purpose does that serve?
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THISISNT NAM
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Posted - 2008.10.29 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Norrin Ellis
Originally by: THISISNT NAM
I hate that guy
Is your name taken from The Big Lebowski?
"This isn't 'Nam, Walter! There are rules!"
Very good - you're only the second guy in Eve to get that.
~the Dude abides.
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Chubbins McChub
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Posted - 2008.10.29 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mostly Amazing
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
I would be oke with that if they didn't bother the real EVE playerbase:
1. But thanks to all the bears the server is heavily loaded with these kinds of bearish activities decreasing performance for us.
2. Petitions are full of "ohno my shuttle bpc has dissappeared, can u return it please?".
3. Whines on the forum.
4. Their own expansion.
1. REAL players vs fake players. Have you been drinking the same Kool-aid Palin drank from when talking about "real America"?
2. You better hope and pray that all the carebears' blueprints stay nice and safe, or you will have nothing to fly.
3. PvP'ers whine more than any other demographic, across all games and genres.
4. Oh noes, one expansion out of ten that does something for industrialists! Heaven forbid.
Bottom line: Carebears make the world go 'round. No carebears = no industry or mining = no ships, mods, ammo, fuel, or tech 2 anything = no PvP for the rest of us.
I'm not a carebear, but I love them all to death. They keep my costs low and the economy humming.
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Tellnan Matkiel
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.29 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Yeah...because some guy sitting in a highsec belt in his Hulk, perfectly safe, and mining Veldspar all day helps make EVE a better game and enriches the community. 
Mmm, you do realise you have almost perfectly just described Chribba right? OK, he does it in a high-sec dreadnought, which means in even greater safety than a guy in a Hulk, but the point is the same.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.29 20:04:00 -
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Can't we all agree that like it or not, we're all stuck together. Carebears want more protection from ebil pirates and other internets jerks. PvPers want to be able to shoot more carebears and steal their delicious loots.
Both are important - who wants to guess how many ships per day would be lost and rebought in PvE EVE? How many ships would be built per day in PvP EVE? You need each other, man! _____________________
The unofficial faceless Achura alt of EVE Online
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Siberys
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.10.29 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Siberys on 29/10/2008 20:11:25 I haz perfect image:
http://fc12.deviantart.com/fs34/f/2008/303/0/e/IMG_Recruitment_Poster_by_BloodwyrmExtremist.jpg __________________________________________ This be my sig.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.29 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: KISOGOKU Edited by: KISOGOKU on 29/10/2008 19:43:58 Forum wh***ing ,we have some forum warriors competing each others to have most post per day or total psot count instead playing game they spend their time at forums . I could not decide which one is worse Akita or Malkanis?
Originally by: Sarabearrah
I dont understand why people feel the need to put down another persons likes or dislikes.......what real purpose does that serve?
IIRC, Akita is provably worse.
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Julius Rigel
House Rigel
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Posted - 2008.10.29 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar I say lets give all carebears free carebeer (0.0% alcohol of course).
I'll take one of those! No wait... I don't drink. 
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Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.10.29 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: Gamer4liff on 29/10/2008 22:48:42 Finally, I get the perfect chance to post this:
Not that I agree with it mind, I'm an industrialist myself.
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Takon Orlani
Caldari Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.10.29 22:48:00 -
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Nobody's forcing you. We just want to make more money than you do playing it safe.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.29 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mostly Amazing You can say all you want, my definition still stands.
I would rather have a world filled with chinese ISK farmers, because at least they put themselves into risky situation ratting in 0.0 and no matter how bad their english is, at least they attempt to make conversation with you in local.
yeah, that's all it is - YOUR definition.
doesn't make it worth anything to anyone else.
at all.
man, your name is just SO far off base... ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
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ramification
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Posted - 2008.10.30 01:18:00 -
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On the most basic, fundamental level, Eve's economy would not work without PvE. Bounties from PvE and mission rewards is the only way new currency is injected into Eve's economy. Mining and manufacture, and even ratting only produce goods, not the means to buy them. Isk is constantly leaving the Eve economy via the sales and transaction taxes, and it has to be replaced.
Without PvE the value of the isk go up rapidly, and it would become impractical to spend money on goods and services. The value of the faction goodies PvPers sell would plummet, and the reduction in the amount of free isk in the system would make it difficult to sell anything for a profit. Even if CCP removed all taxes to prevent isk from leaving the system, the absence of a source of new currency would end with what would be to all intents and purposes a medieval economy, as the wealthiest would soon wind up owning a larger and larger proportion of the overall economy as the neutral revenue stream facilitating competition with them would have disappeared.
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