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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:39:00 -
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LancashireUK,
what should happen in the following situation: you jump into a system and see a wreck on scanner. You get closer and it's still full of goodies. You empty the wreck, dock up and sell the stuff, get some good money for it and just have enough to buy you that ship you've been waiting for plus insurance.
Two days later.... you're wallet is negative because it turned out, the mods you took were due to a 'faulty' crash and CCP took back all the money that you gathered thanks to those mods.
Now, you never were present when the original ship blew up, you didn't experience these problems. Should you be punished for this?
For that reason, CCP does not reimburse the stuff that survives. It's simple. You can hate that policy but that's the one which is being used.
It works for 99.9 percent of the people. It doesn't for you apparently but you can be sure, they won't change it.
It is very likely that someone else looted your wreck which means they can't reimburse those modules. If you would have picked up the loot in the wreck and waited for the petition, you would have had 0 loss.
If you need a reimbursement, YOU have to do some actions. One of them is to create a petition, the other one is to pick up the stuff that survived. You're not complaining here that you had to create a petition so why complain about the second part?
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LancashireUK
Caldari Paradigm Rise Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: LancashireUK on 31/10/2008 14:46:40
Originally by: Agor Dirdonen LancashireUK,
what should happen in the following situation: you jump into a system and see a wreck on scanner. You get closer and it's still full of goodies. You empty the wreck, dock up and sell the stuff, get some good money for it and just have enough to buy you that ship you've been waiting for plus insurance.
Two days later.... you're wallet is negative because it turned out, the mods you took were due to a 'faulty' crash and CCP took back all the money that you gathered thanks to those mods.
Now, you never were present when the original ship blew up, you didn't experience these problems. Should you be punished for this?
For that reason, CCP does not reimburse the stuff that survives. It's simple. You can hate that policy but that's the one which is being used.
It works for 99.9 percent of the people. It doesn't for you apparently but you can be sure, they won't change it.
It is very likely that someone else looted your wreck which means they can't reimburse those modules. If you would have picked up the loot in the wreck and waited for the petition, you would have had 0 loss.
If you need a reimbursement, YOU have to do some actions. One of them is to create a petition, the other one is to pick up the stuff that survived. You're not complaining here that you had to create a petition so why complain about the second part?
I did the petition because that's how i'd get my itmes back. Collecting the can should not be my responsibility as it was a CCP error, and certainly not when CCP were having serious server issues which caused me to lose the ship in the first place. To be honest, being able to loot the wreck would have been a challenge due to these issues.
As for the other person, well CCP can do what they please can't they, it seems. Perhaps they shouldn't have stolen it in the first place....
Anyhow, some good comments, i'm still sticking to my original thought. ------ Killboard Hosting - www.eveonlinekb.com North West UK EVE Group - www.eve-nw.com |
CALUGARU
Repo Industries Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:52:00 -
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dude, seriously. stfu. you died bcause of a SERVER issue and got reimbursed. when i got podded with my hg slave, the whole game was so bugged i couldn't click on anything at all and just saw myself go boom and i got scrat back. so be grateful and stfu already with the whining. thank you. ______________
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LancashireUK
Caldari Paradigm Rise Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: CALUGARU dude, seriously. stfu. you died bcause of a SERVER issue and got reimbursed. when i got podded with my hg slave, the whole game was so bugged i couldn't click on anything at all and just saw myself go boom and i got scrat back. so be grateful and stfu already with the whining. thank you.
I started a thread about a logical issue, if you don't like this thead you can either a. Ignore it or b. Report it.
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CALUGARU
Repo Industries Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:56:00 -
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not all of ccp's decisions are logical. you should know better. you should have looted your wreck, they wouldn't have denied reimbursment if you took the stuff (else leave it there and wait for someone else to grab it). the only failed logic i see here is in your decision... ______________
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: LancashireUK I started a thread about a logical issue,
You don't think it's logical that you only get back what was actually destroyed?
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LancashireUK
Caldari Paradigm Rise Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: CALUGARU not all of ccp's decisions are logical. you should know better. you should have looted your wreck, they wouldn't have denied reimbursment if you took the stuff (else leave it there and wait for someone else to grab it). the only failed logic i see here is in your decision...
Now, that's a lot better than this post:
Originally by: CALUGARU dude, seriously. stfu. you died bcause of a SERVER issue and got reimbursed. when i got podded with my hg slave, the whole game was so bugged i couldn't click on anything at all and just saw myself go boom and i got scrat back. so be grateful and stfu already with the whining. thank you.
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Stolen6901
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: CALUGARU not all of ccp's decisions are logical. you should know better. you should have looted your wreck, they wouldn't have denied reimbursment if you took the stuff (else leave it there and wait for someone else to grab it). the only failed logic i see here is in your decision...
bet you have logic to 5
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CALUGARU
Repo Industries Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.10.31 14:59:00 -
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sorry really, but it's anoying to whine even though you got reimbursed... especially if people that lost almost 2 bil due to more serious bugs didn't get reimbursed... ______________
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LancashireUK
Caldari Paradigm Rise Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.10.31 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: CALUGARU sorry really, but it's anoying to whine even though you got reimbursed... especially if people that lost almost 2 bil due to more serious bugs didn't get reimbursed...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.10.31 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 31/10/2008 15:09:27
It's quite simple, really : CCP reimburses things that you lost due to a fault on their end, provided you had no possibility of avoiding that loss (no matter how slim), and provided they have absolutely no doubts that the problem WAS actually on their end. If they have any reasons to doubt the problem was on their end, or if you could have done something to prevent the loss, it's no longer their problem.
In your particular case, it seems they agree the loss of the ship was their fault, and they reimbursed that (plus the destroyed mods). Still, the loss of modules left undestroyed in the wreck could have been prevented by you (nobody says it would have been easy though), so you're not getting reimbursed for that.
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CALUGARU
Repo Industries Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.10.31 15:09:00 -
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i couldn't have done anything. maybe not uncloak but that's not the problem. i don't care that my ship blew up, i care that after it did, nothing was clickable and even max zoomed out, right click on any part of the screen would bring up the pod menu. so meh..."ze logs..they show nothing!"... ______________
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Originally by: CCP Navigator ooopss
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.10.31 15:14:00 -
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Please note that the Reimbursement policy specifically states "NOTE: Items looted from a wreck following the destruction of a ship cannot be replaced. Should your ship be destroyed, we advise you to seek out and collect your belongings as quickly as possible."
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