I can comment on it because this isn't my first character. I also played from 2006-2010, and I can say that damage wasn't quite this ridiculous back then. Active tanking didn't get nerfed, damage got buffed. That's why it's falling behind. I mean 1400 DPS on a battlecruiser? That's just stupid to me. I have always despised buffer nano fits and I was glad when CCP changed speed. Now it appears to be coming back just because damage has increased so much.

After shield explosive and armor EM resistances were lowered a bit I thought damage was fine for all turrets. Now I hear that projectiles and hybrids were buffed, a tech 3 cruiser was released that's extremely expensive but is a very powerful ship, and now a tier 3 battlecruiser was introduced that's the size of a cruiser capable of more firepower than a battleship. You say this is a sandbox, but now I cannot do what I want to do which is actively armor tank effectively. It's not even including the fact that so many ships are using neuts as well.

Oh, I have also always despised FotM ships as well just because they're good and easy. It appears that the drake and hurricane is WAY overused. I'm not going to get into a high DPS talos, nanoed, and shield buffer fit just because it's popular and good. I'll be flying ships that counter it. The same goes for that gank brutix.

I really hope you're trolling...

I don't fly anything because it's popular or good, I fly what I like- hey, I'm a pure Gallente pilot and won't fly anything else :D I fly (or try, I'm not yet used to that kind of speed) the Talos because it's ******* sexy!

I'm not even troliing :)))) Please show me that a Domi can pvp. I would love to see that.

why does one expect armor and shield being the same? Those are 2 different things for a reason.
As others stated, shields != armor!!

Why would you think domi cant pvp?

Low tank, low dps, slow, drone bonus is useless.

6/10 You almost got me there ;)

I'm not even troliing :)))) Please show me that a Domi can pvp. I would love to see that.

What is this I don't even?

I trust you're a student, not a teacher, in IVY?

No one is expecting them to be the same. The point that this thread is trying to make is that one is somewhat inferior to the other. Specifically, what I'm trying to say is that, while both types have repair modules, the armor repairer is very inefficient while the shield booster is.

No one is expecting them to be the same. The point that this thread is trying to make is that one is somewhat inferior to the other. Specifically, what I'm trying to say is that, while both types have repair modules, the armor repairer is very inefficient while the shield booster is.

OMG how can i say this?? I'm not trolling :))

Please show me otherwise, the Domi can't pvp !! It's for missioning :))

Armor tankers get bonuses from ship modifications (remote reppers), drugs, implants that are not available to shield reppers.

Go here, scroll down to 'Kessah' and enjoy. I am not sure which one features his dual rep domi, but watching them all cant hurt.

In fact, here is a version of the fit from an excellent pvper, blobbed and killed by EUNI, no less.

And I'm EUNI, class of '07. ;)

Go here, scroll down to 'Kessah' and enjoy. I am not sure which one features his dual rep domi, but watching them all cant hurt.

In fact, here is a version of the fit from an excellent pvper, blobbed and killed by EUNI, no less.

And I'm EUNI, class of '07. ;)

Now here's another question: Do Minmatar ships have flaws? Because I can only name its strengths

1.Projectile turrets don't need cap
2.Turrets can range from close-range to med-range without loosing DPS because of high falloff
3.Good tank
4.High dps
5.Fast

1.Projectile turrets don't need capt

2.Turrets can range from close-range to med-range without loosing DPS because of high fallofft

3.Good tankt

4.High dpst

5.Fast

BC speeds:

Tier 3

1. Tornado 281 m/s | 6.27 s
2. Talos 275 m/s | 6.06 s
3. Oracle 250 m/s | 6.56 s
4. Naga 244 ms/s | 6.81 s

Tier 1 & 2

1. Hurricane / Cyclone 206 m/s | 8.23 s
2. Brutix 194 m/s | 8.29 s
3. Prophecy / Harbinger 188 m/s | 8.89 s
4. Myrmidon 181 m/s | 8.73 s
5. Ferox 175 m/s | 7.82 s
6. Drake 175 m/s | 8.23 s


So slow, omg.

Not everybody flies minmatar and you cannot compare an event like the alliance tournament with pvp on tranquility. Minmatar often fight at optimal + half falloff. This HALVES their EFT DPS.

Half is quite a bit actually! Try flying minmatar ships and then come back and share your experiences.

Edit for terrible spelling