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Phony v2
Caldari Heavens Gate Consortium
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Posted - 2008.11.12 23:58:00 -
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wrong, Im very happy with this patch finally my nighthawk is not the only option for missions out of ships i fly. Now I can use my absolution which is actually fun to fly.
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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Blastil My Ewar Blackbird that I skilled up for still jams a BS, so I'm pretty damn happy.
so umm.. when nobody flies bs's anymore? what was the point : P Why won't people fly bs anymore?
cause they are slow as ****...
LOL you fail EVE hard, and i mean SERIOUSLY hard .
thxs : )
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Blastil
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Sentiment
Originally by: Blastil My Ewar Blackbird that I skilled up for still jams a BS, so I'm pretty damn happy.
so umm.. when nobody flies bs's anymore? what was the point : P
The point is that not only can it jam a BS, but it can jam HAC's, Cruisers, frigates, AF, Ceptors, barges, Indies, logistics, BC, Cov ops, Recons, stealth bombers, And your mum.
But since the BS/Caldari/Nano nerf is OBVIOUSLY the end of the ****ing world, cue the drama:
OH NOES!!!11!ELEVENTYONE!!! ALL CALDARI SHIPS ARE USELESS AND THE 15 DAYS IT TOOK TO CROSSTRAIN ARE WASTED! BAAAAAAAWWWW!
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:07:00 -
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CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF?
SKUNK
Originally by: CCP Navigator
People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
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Lone Hitman
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Blastil OH NOES!!!11!ELEVENTYONE!!! ALL CALDARI SHIPS ARE USELESS AND THE 15 DAYS IT TOOK TO CROSSTRAIN ARE WASTED! BAAAAAAAWWWW!
More like 15 months to get good missile & Marauder skills wasted.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lone Hitman
Originally by: Blastil OH NOES!!!11!ELEVENTYONE!!! ALL CALDARI SHIPS ARE USELESS AND THE 15 DAYS IT TOOK TO CROSSTRAIN ARE WASTED! BAAAAAAAWWWW!
More like 15 months to get good missile & Marauder skills wasted.
[dev]Golem was totally overpowered and is now in line with the other Marauders.[/dev] *except for the Vaygur, it still sucks exceptional arse*
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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lone Hitman
Originally by: Blastil OH NOES!!!11!ELEVENTYONE!!! ALL CALDARI SHIPS ARE USELESS AND THE 15 DAYS IT TOOK TO CROSSTRAIN ARE WASTED! BAAAAAAAWWWW!
More like 15 months to get good missile & Marauder skills wasted.
havent even been playing 15mths lol.. and no maurader here.. but for the fact i have put nearly a year of my ingame time into training things that are now completely useless... is abit.. well bulls.H.i.T
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Anig Browl
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Sentiment
mind shareing your setup : P have u fitted a target painter ?
Fit 2; unlike a BCS they don't have stacking penalties. I am still rearranging my fits and trying to decide how to optimize with a smaller tank.
Against some targets I am performing much better with 2 x TP + 1 x BCS than with the usual 3 x BCS. Maybe I fill low slots with more cap relays and run more active boosting, or armor repper or something, don't know yet.
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Nexus Kinnon
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:15:00 -
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just quit already
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Renee Alexis
Luminous Love Brewery
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Blastil OH NOES!!!11!ELEVENTYONE!!! ALL CALDARI SHIPS ARE USELESS! BAAAAAAAWWWW!
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StainLessStealRat
Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: StainLessStealRat on 13/11/2008 00:24:34 A high slot exposion velocity MOD would be nice to help balance the differance in missiles not having a tracking Mod or a larger drone bay (not higher bandwith) so a combination of painting and web and combat drones could be stored.
As it is other races BS all have a larger drone bay and have a tracking mod and from what i see traget painter has no where near the affect that a tracking computer does with hybrids.
And to the you still have a falcon crowd ,the falcons ECM range is about to be very hard hit making it useless in anything but ganking gangs and falcons are useless in a ganking gang.
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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Anig Browl
Originally by: Demonic Sentiment
mind shareing your setup : P have u fitted a target painter ?
Fit 2; unlike a BCS they don't have stacking penalties. I am still rearranging my fits and trying to decide how to optimize with a smaller tank.
Against some targets I am performing much better with 2 x TP + 1 x BCS than with the usual 3 x BCS. Maybe I fill low slots with more cap relays and run more active boosting, or armor repper or something, don't know yet.
ok cool... mabey judt fill lows with pdu2s? will increase the shield recharge and cap regen so longer active tank and stronger passive.. mabey that will make up for the dual amps
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Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Hyveres on 13/11/2008 00:24:17 Its very very playable , remember most gunnery and ship skills depend on Perception & Willpower.
As caldari you will train them faster than the other races :)
And tbh with the exception of angel & merc missions I have yet to notice real damagereduction from cruisers & battleships.
But then I do have decent TP skills , running a lazy tank setup with 1 TP, 4 hardeners a shield booster and 4 BCU.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Hyveres Edited by: Hyveres on 13/11/2008 00:24:17 Its very very playable , remember most gunnery and ship skills depend on Perception & Willpower.
As caldari you will train them faster than the other races :)
And tbh with the exception of angel & merc missions I have yet to notice real damagereduction from cruisers & battleships.
But then I do have decent TP skills , running a lazy tank setup with 1 TP, 4 hardeners a shield booster and 4 BCU.
But you don't permarun a XL deadspace booster with 5 hardeners! How can you possibly do missions with that?!?
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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:52:00 -
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redoing the bcu bonuses is the answer lol.. lower dmg bonus and include some kind of explosion velocity bonus... nothing so large that u are single shotting frigs.. but enough that u are hitting other bs's and doing some what better against cruisers... not a bad idea.. opinions?
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Turin
Caldari Eternity INC.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 00:53:00 -
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I get the nerf. I dont really have an issue with it. But the balancing IS bad.
Someone else made the point. And I have yet to see a valid argument against it.
when a BC can do more dmg to a BS than another BS, doesnt it seem like there is something wrong there? Honestly?
the DPS in my Drake is better than my DPS in my raven, against another battleship. That is clearly inequitable.
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Delta Kiri
Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:07:00 -
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Caldari players whine about nano-gangs in Faction Warfare. Nano-gangs nerfed with the side-effect of uber missle spewing Ravens being brought back to the effectiveness of every other PvE battleship. I see no problem here.
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Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Delta Kiri Caldari players whine about nano-gangs in Faction Warfare. Nano-gangs nerfed with the side-effect of uber missle spewing Ravens being brought back to the effectiveness of every other PvE battleship. I see no problem here.
Then why does the Tempest Fleet issue do close to twice the damage a cnr can put out?.
Why does domi's easily outDPS ravens.
Its not brought back in line , its made weaker than the ships it was once comparable with.
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Caiman Graystock
Comrades in Construction Anarchy.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:39:00 -
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WTF, these are the worst trolls ever. At worst, my missiles are doing a few less HP damage per hit, it's certainly not unplayable nor a massive increase in time. Skill the **** up and shut up.
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente Biotronics Inc. Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:10:00 -
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Hint: You're doing it wrong.
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Colonel Bloodtide
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:39:00 -
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As i said yesterday in a thread which got locked... Let The Whining Commence!!
Seriously its like everyone whos moaning has been living in a box for 2 months. I pay vague attention at best to the forums and updates and even i knew that people who played on the test server reported this damage reduction to missiles ages ago. Where have you all been??
However as an amarr pilot who abhors missiles i am very happy thank you muchly 
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KingOzar
Caldari Thorn Executor THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:44:00 -
[112]
Lol, now you Caldari can be like every other race and use drones to kill frigs in missions. Stop complaining.
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Mutabae
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:52:00 -
[113]
Am I too late to laugh at the unimaginative caldari whiners? No? Good!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Your easy mode is dead. Good riddance to bad game design. Adapt or go play something else.
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Minny Sky
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:01:00 -
[114]
buhahaahahahaa
lololooloololl
Want to cry about nano again?? That is what you get.
Go play wow now.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:11:00 -
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The cycle is complete, we are back to where we were before the HP buff. Have faith Caldari brethren, if things hold true; the Gallente should get the next buff....and then its us!!!! its only 60 or so days to cross-train amarr (bs and t2 cruisers with t2 med guns) for any char over about 10mil sp so might as well try out laz0rs while you wait for Caldari uberness to cycle!  --
Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donęt forget the reach-around.
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Malleer
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Sentiment
Originally by: Lone Hitman
More like 15 months to get good missile & Marauder skills wasted.
havent even been playing 15mths lol.. and no maurader here.. but for the fact i have put nearly a year of my ingame time into training things that are now completely useless... is abit.. well bulls.H.i.T
Your the only useless one here. There is missile ships and fittings that will allow you to do lvl4's just fine. Try to adjust your fittings and experiment or STFU and just quit already, whiner.
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Celeritas 5k
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.11.13 04:07:00 -
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missiles aren't that bad
stfu
gtfo
adapt or die
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Product Number 3
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Posted - 2008.11.13 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Celeritas 5k missiles aren't that bad
stfu
gtfo
adapt or die
and so on
Ignorant troll is ignorant. Balance is one thing, but these things are completely broken. I shouldn't have to use target painters just to hit my own ship class.
It's okay, I think you are just scared that CCP knows we're right, and will fix it.
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Julius Rigel
House Rigel
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Posted - 2008.11.13 04:19:00 -
[119]
Your stuff please!
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Jim Hazard
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Posted - 2008.11.13 04:21:00 -
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Its not the ships which are useless its the pilot flying them.....
get back to the mmos you came from and stop the whining already....
yes i know ccp will lose money if you quit, but well... ccp survived when they had like 2,5k players online on sunday evenings and they will still survive if a few simple minded people just leave and hopefully never come back..
Reading all the crap after the patch just makes me feel sad that eve ever became that popular, things were much better b4 all the idiots started playing eve. AND DAMN EVE IS SO MUCH EASIER THAN IT USED TO BE BACK IN 2003. You should be happy about the way eve is today. If you would have started back in the days where I started you would have quit the game after 2 days because you would have to mine your ass off for weeks to get the ISK and skills for a cruiser...
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