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Demonic Sentiment Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:22:00 - [61] Originally by: KhaniKirai It is silly when a BC performs better then a BS. So the BS has no role left anymore :/ i guees a raven can still hit a carrier... mabey : P
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:25:00 - [62] Um...no. My Nighthawk is at least as good as it ever was. My CNR is a bit gimped but there's an obvious solution to that. Golem is probably unchanged. So the only problems I see are for those pilots that are incapable or unwilling to change. Welcome to Eve. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Demonic Sentiment Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:29:00 - [63] Edited by: Demonic Sentiment on 12/11/2008 22:28:43 Originally by: Andrue Um...no. My Nighthawk is at least as good as it ever was. My CNR is a bit gimped but there's an obvious solution to that. Golem is probably unchanged. So the only problems I see are for those pilots that are incapable or unwilling to change. Welcome to Eve. guess u missed the post were the guy hit for 30 dmg with his golem
Lone Hitman	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:30:00 - [64] Originally by: Andrue Um...no. My Nighthawk is at least as good as it ever was. My CNR is a bit gimped but there's an obvious solution to that. Golem is probably unchanged. Golems have changed I'm afraid... for the worse. So badly, that I'm considering selling mine.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:35:00 - [65] Mission Impossible 4: Tom Cruise-Missile launcher ahahahahaha see wut I did thar? uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
0vermind	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:38:00 - [66] enjoy the nanonerf
Tom Perrish Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:38:00 - [67] Originally by: Malcanis THE SKY IS FALLING! Hint: I'm ratting in my cerb right now and it's fine. QFT, doing the same in my cerb
Ghostwarden	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:43:00 - [68] Hell, I never liked the Raven anyway....always thought it was a piece of sh*t (Even went back and shored up a bunch of skills and retried it). Been using a Nighthawk for almost a year now and I will not look back. Ghost
KhaniKirai	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:47:00 - [69] Originally by: Tom Perrish Originally by: Malcanis THE SKY IS FALLING! Hint: I'm ratting in my cerb right now and it's fine. QFT, doing the same in my cerb Exactly, thats the problem now. Raven has no more use, its cheaper to use hac or bc and use t2 heavy assault or heavy missiles to rat with. Why spent extra isk for a bigger target with less resist, with bonusses on weapon systems, that are no good against their own size and 1 size smaller? I dont see the use of a raven anymore. People say fit a target painter. Last time i checked these t2 things have like 30km optimal with 60km fall off or something. Bit silly if you were sniping with a raven before.
Mara Rinn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:48:00 - [70] I had a ball of a time last night running level 4s with my Drake. I had a friend along in a Hyperion blaster boat. No complaints from me!

Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:56:00 - [71] damnit, i JUST bought a pvp cnr before the patch, fool on me tbh :(
Terror Rising Death Of Fallen Angels	Posted - 2008.11.12 22:57:00 - [72] My alt's 7bn isk fitted Golem is fine after the patch... what are you all whining about anyway?
kworld modro	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:06:00 - [73] Edited by: kworld on 12/11/2008 23:07:02 Originally by: Ultrakorne Originally by: Nekopyat Originally by: Ultrakorne i have a 20 day character on a caracal... i cannot do mission anymore.. from easy to impossible... i tryed a quest for 6 hours... its a bug, obviously. i ll wait until they fix, i cannot do missions now.. this is not a nerf, this is unplayable. Go back to L1 missions till you have more SP? Try hybrid turrets instead? Maybe the erra of the 4 week character in a raven sleeping through L4s is finally coming to an end. the problem is i need 12-14 light missile to kill a frigate... and L1 quests are full.. yes of course i can go back to an ibis and redo the tutorial, why not? yes the solution is using hybrit turrets.. but this is what we are talking about. missile are useless and if u say to use turrets to do L1-2 missions you get the point Me thinks the chinese are ****ed right now and you other people who happily macro rat in 0.0.... finally all the races are pretty much getting even.
Davik Rendar Open All Hours	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:06:00 - [74] Originally by: Ultrakorne full of frigate rats :) i dont know if cruise do more damage to small targets, i can tell for sure that light missiles and even rockets(they suppose to be intended for small targets) do 1/4 damage they should (i think because of the explosion velocity) rockets have 80m/s explosion velocity frigate rats 400~ I have no idea what your whining about, I had no problems bbq'ing some frigs with my rocket fitted Vengeance earlier today
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:08:00 - [75] I'm liking it actually. I can hit frigates for useful amounts of damage, even when they're zooming around. Not _ownage_ levels of damage, but no longer is an inty immune to heavy missiles. I like this. -- 249km locking?
Gorefacer Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:23:00 - [76] Originally by: rofflesausage Originally by: Gorefacer Originally by: Framerunner Since the new patch the Caldari is a **ing crashed race... My raven Speed is now only 100 m/s, Missile damage is gone down too.... Drones are shooting like kids... Blatant exaggeration and lies. To be fair to the guy, it's not lies. Exaggeration? not really either - standard Raven speed now hovers around 100m/s depending on skill. Drones and missiles are considerably nerfed. .... Caldari isn't a "crashed" race. There's one lie right there. Ok maybe he's just ignorant and believes the garbage he says. I'll give him that much benefit of the doubt. You left out the other half of his quote as well, mostly where my comment was targeted. Originally by:** Framerunner Caldari is no longer useful... No PVP no Missions... "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:28:00 - [77] Originally by: Bren Kasir Nighthawk FTW tbh imo, Drop a target painter on it and utter pwnage awaits :-) I love the pun! :) - -
Gorefacer Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:31:00 - [78] Originally by: Demonic Sentiment STFU with the anti-whining bull****... they really hit the caldari hard with this nerf.. so everyone says use a target painter... a mid slot.. caldari shield tank remember? Sorry as an only Caldari specced pilot and having tried my Raven post nerf I have no sympathy for fellow Caldari pilots. I apologize I interrupted your complaining though - I'll leave you to it in peace. My Raven works just fine for me. And even if it didn't I have Cerb/Falcon/Onyx/Basilisk/Kitsune/etc. to fall back on. "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
Demonic Sentiment Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:35:00 - [79] Originally by: Gorefacer Originally by: Demonic Sentiment STFU with the anti-whining bull****... they really hit the caldari hard with this nerf.. so everyone says use a target painter... a mid slot.. caldari shield tank remember? Sorry as an only Caldari specced pilot and having tried my Raven post nerf I have no sympathy for fellow Caldari pilots. I apologize I interrupted your complaining though - I'll leave you to it in peace. My Raven works just fine for me. And even if it didn't I have Cerb/Falcon/Onyx/Basilisk/Kitsune/etc. to fall back on. mind shareing your setup : P have u fitted a target painter ?
Zi'a Baptism oF Fire	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:39:00 - [80] meh, drop a bit of tank on bs's for that target painter .. you just have to be active in your missions now and like all others my cerb is still fun

Demonic Sentiment Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:41:00 - [81] Originally by: Zi'a meh, drop a bit of tank on bs's for that target painter .. you just have to be active in your missions now and like all others my cerb is still fun i guys droping a shield amp isnt gonna hurt to bad lol : P
Tobin Shalim Vulcan Foundry OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:42:00 - [82] Originally by: KhaniKirai It is silly when a BC performs better then a BS. So the BS has no role left anymore :/ quotin' dis for truth ----- Originally by: Haakkon I feel a great deal of patriotism at being a part of Goonswarm. We've accomplished great things... we're just mainly jerks about it
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:46:00 - [83] Edited by: Zeba on 12/11/2008 23:46:49 Originally by: rValdez5987 I just used a scorpion geddon combo in a mission last night. It was BETTER then before overall. Then again im using full T2 gear with high sp so meh. And this is where the whinging is coming from: People who tossed off a few missile skills and hopped in a level 2 raven to run missions are now feeling how turret users have had it for ages. Got sp? inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Killer Kelly The Social Club	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:49:00 - [84] Originally by: Meister75th Originally by: Framerunner Since the new patch the Caldari is a **ing crashed race... My raven Speed is now only 100 m/s, Missile damage is gone down too.... Drones are shooting like kids... Caldari is no longer useful... No PVP no Missions... One more reason to quit from eve online.... so gtfo outta the raven and fly a drake like I do... the drake now most definately has the better tank.. and more consistant dps.. and probably as much as the raven... plus it can only use light drones so no worries about drones that cant hit everything! well looky here the BC is now better than the BS.. so whaddya do? Get in the mother***** BC... if not please send all your isk to me ;) OOH OOH DOES THE DRAKE STILL WORK?! I just finished Battlecruisers V and IT BETTER BE WORTH SOMETHING GODDAMMIT
Blastil	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:49:00 - [85] My Ewar Blackbird that I skilled up for still jams a BS, so I'm pretty damn happy.
Demonic Sentiment Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:53:00 - [86] Originally by: Blastil My Ewar Blackbird that I skilled up for still jams a BS, so I'm pretty damn happy. so umm.. when nobody flies bs's anymore? what was the point : P
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:55:00 - [87] Originally by: Demonic Sentiment Originally by: Blastil My Ewar Blackbird that I skilled up for still jams a BS, so I'm pretty damn happy. so umm.. when nobody flies bs's anymore? what was the point : P Why won't people fly bs anymore? inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Demonic Sentiment Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:56:00 - [88] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Demonic Sentiment Originally by: Blastil My Ewar Blackbird that I skilled up for still jams a BS, so I'm pretty damn happy. so umm.. when nobody flies bs's anymore? what was the point : P Why won't people fly bs anymore? cause they are slow as ****...
Discrodia Gallente Independent Miners Guild	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:56:00 - [89] QUITCH YO WHINING. You choose the bad race, now deal with it. _______________ I mine rocks. Big rocks. :D
NightmareX D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.12 23:58:00 - [90] Originally by: Demonic Sentiment Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Demonic Sentiment Originally by: Blastil My Ewar Blackbird that I skilled up for still jams a BS, so I'm pretty damn happy. so umm.. when nobody flies bs's anymore? what was the point : P Why won't people fly bs anymore? cause they are slow as ****... LOL you fail EVE hard, and i mean SERIOUSLY hard. Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike'



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