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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:14:00 -
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2008.11.13 00:54
Victim: Infinite Force
Corp: Hammer Of Light
Alliance: Libertas Fidelitas
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Golem
System: hidden
Security: 0.0
Damage Taken: 583690
Involved parties:
Name: Thor Torpedo I / Sansha's Nation (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 583690
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This seem alittle out of wack?
and no, i could not bring a carrier in, its gated
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Mikal Tylar
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:19:00 -
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Well, that sucks.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:22:00 -
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Yeah, wow... petition?
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Sidus Isaacs
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:24:00 -
[4]
Petition. That has got to be wrong somehow.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:25:00 -
[5]
Actually, no thats correct. It doesnt take into account resistances or signature radius. Only pure HP. To tank that battle station (that the citadel torp is fired from) my old corp and i used a Broadsword with two basilisks as support.
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Ishtar1
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:26:00 -
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yeah they are known to do this you need the primary resist to be like 95-98% so a racial command ship is needed
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Sexy Shopper
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:26:00 -
[7]
Hahahahaha PWND you nub!
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:28:00 -
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Thats just proof they got to nerf missiles even further. :)
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Horza Otho
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:32:00 -
[9]
_ROFL_
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Crucifier
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:38:00 -
[10]
owned.
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Haleuth
Amarr
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:39:00 -
[11]
 Originally by: ShadowandLight
Edited by: ShadowandLight on 13/11/2008 01:33:35
2008.11.13 00:54
Victim: Infinite Force
Corp: Hammer Of Light
Alliance: Libertas Fidelitas
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Golem
System: hidden
Security: 0.0
Damage Taken: 583690
Involved parties:
Name: Thor Torpedo I / Sansha's Nation (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 583690
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This seem alittle out of wack?
and no, i could not bring a carrier in, its gated
yea know, that just doesnt make sense
players spend all that time and money and time to get into t2 battleships
for the sole purpose of missions / plex
then u make a torpedo that a t2 golem with almost max resistance and 2 shield logistic ships cannont tank....
and i didnt have the brains to use 2 defender missiles
F*cking thank you very much CCP for making a game where i gotta think
petitioned...
fixed that for you
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tarin adur
Gallente
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:44:00 -
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Smartbomb would be 10x better then 2 defenders, and i agree with horza 
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Talon Calais
Gallente
Diplomatic Disruption
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:49:00 -
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AF + AB
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:52:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Talon Calais
AF + AB
while this MIGHT work, if the 30 frigates in the pocket dont eat you up
why am i spending x number of 100's of millions on a ship that i cant use in these plexs?
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Lady Aja
Caldari
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
Originally by: Talon Calais
AF + AB
while this MIGHT work, if the 30 frigates in the pocket dont eat you up
why am i spending x number of 100's of millions on a ship that i cant use in these plexs?
cross posting is bad mmmkay!!!!!!
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RedeyeAce
Caldari
Demogorgon's Army
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:51:00 -
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shadow, sorry for the loss dude,
but if thats the Guri 10/10 im thinking it is, then that citadel torp is well known :(
doubt you'll get anywhere on the petition and yeh like others have said racial command or af+ab
You'll get the isk back in a while. Just an unfortunate lesson
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: RedeyeAce
shadow, sorry for the loss dude,
but if thats the Guri 10/10 im thinking it is, then that citadel torp is well known :(
doubt you'll get anywhere on the petition and yeh like others have said racial command or af+ab
You'll get the isk back in a while. Just an unfortunate lesson
thanks for the kind words, ill keep at it and make the ISK back
im not sure how "id" know about it though, seeing i never ran the plex before, and of course, there isnt a warning about "hey this is gonna insta pop any BS's u bring in here"
also, really, did CCP REALLY make plexs for BS's, then say, well u cant possible TANK this, so speed tank it with a AF?
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Commander Thrawn
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
Originally by: RedeyeAce
shadow, sorry for the loss dude,
but if thats the Guri 10/10 im thinking it is, then that citadel torp is well known :(
doubt you'll get anywhere on the petition and yeh like others have said racial command or af+ab
You'll get the isk back in a while. Just an unfortunate lesson
thanks for the kind words, ill keep at it and make the ISK back
im not sure how "id" know about it though, seeing i never ran the plex before, and of course, there isnt a warning about "hey this is gonna insta pop any BS's u bring in here"
also, really, did CCP REALLY make plexs for BS's, then say, well u cant possible TANK this, so speed tank it with a AF?
man's got a point
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.11.13 02:58:00 -
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i dunno about anyone else but... 583690 is enough to insta pop a carrier, or come pretty close anyways.
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Cmndr Griff
Opinicus Operations
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:02:00 -
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Yeah Command Ships do ok as they aren't as sig-heavy, though an Assault frig does the job nicely if you can keep out of the friggies way. I remember reading a HAC can also survice but I haven't tested it myself.
Its a nasty complex that should get some sort of warning though definitely, I mean come on you get a warning on level 1s with Inties. A 500k dps missile spewing tower of death does warrant a little hint...
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Commander Thrawn
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Last Wolf
i dunno about anyone else but... 583690 is enough to insta pop a carrier, or come pretty close anyways.
I think this is on top of resistance. but ya
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IceAero
Amarr
Shadow Company
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: IceAero on 13/11/2008 03:35:40
Ok i did this in an absolution with about 4 BSs and a guardian...
I'm not sure what my resistances were, but I saved this from my bio:
22:58:10 Combat Thor Torpedo I belonging to Guristas Pirates hits you, doing 10712.0 damage.
We calculated that the torp was doing about 180,000 damage, raw.
So I guess I had about 94-95% to that specific damage type...
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SharpMango
14th Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.13 03:44:00 -
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i should start petitioning everytime i lose my ship too.
oh wait, im not a cry baby.....
if you fail once, you try again.
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EFT Warrior
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Posted - 2008.11.13 04:02:00 -
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You should've put on target painters.
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Ecky X
Shadow Company
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Posted - 2008.11.13 04:08:00 -
[25]
Did a similar one in my carrier, was taking 36,000 damage every 30 seconds. 
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Sophia Esperanza
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 05:18:00 -
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I think they ALL shot at once, and the final blow was one torp. That happens if you lag a bit. They all hit you at once and you go pop. That killmail shows total damage, so you really can't say if it was just 1 hit.
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Omarvelous
Caldari
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.13 05:41:00 -
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Ran the guristas 10/10 version. Had to use a carrier (no accel gates on ours). If that Torp follows the missile forumla (and remember it may NOT do racial damage - the guristas citadel torp was a THOR torp - EM) get a Jag/Wolf with a natually high EM resist and cram as many EM hardeners as you can and have logistics on hand. The rest of the gang kills off the NPC spawns that come after you keep on damaging the fortress.
Its a challenge and why its the toughest ranked plex in the game 10/10.
Good luck on working your way up again.
BTW that plex dropped a 22nd overseer's effect (110 million) and a pithi A-Type X-Large Shield Booster (700 mil).
Risk to get that reward!
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Unforgivin
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 06:04:00 -
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Unforgivin
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 06:06:00 -
[29]
Originally by: EFT Warrior
You should've put on target painters.
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Chaos Hellbreth
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Posted - 2008.11.13 06:13:00 -
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apparently someone didn't tell Sansha's Nation that missiles were nerfed and that Citadel Torps are ineffective vs. ships smaller than their own size class....
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Hoshi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 07:05:00 -
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I hope you realize that that 583690 damage is the total damage you have taken in the whole complex and not how much the missile did.
You should take a look at your game logs C:\Documents and Settings\{user}\My Documents\EVE\logs\Gamelogs\ to see how much damage it really did.
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Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.13 07:12:00 -
[32]
So, dying to NPC is a bug now?
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 07:30:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Hoshi
I hope you realize that that 583690 damage is the total damage you have taken in the whole complex and not how much the missile did.
This.
Torpedo does 180 000 damage only (and thats before sig and stuff). Still golem will take around half of this in the face before resists go into play. Unless you can survive 70-90k or pure EM damage on shields you will die.
Time to learn how to tank missiles (and i can even give you a hint: its called HAC or command ship - preferably of minmatar flavour).
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
White Core
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Posted - 2008.11.13 07:52:00 -
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use a frig with some defenders ;)
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Precisionist
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Posted - 2008.11.13 07:54:00 -
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petition this bs, Unless you can fly a titan up in there, if not its broken petition get your sht back and make them fix this and if you dont than tell us and we will protest and boycott eve for u and they will be forced to meet your 2 demands.
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Captain Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 07:55:00 -
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hahah owned and now he moans
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.13 08:02:00 -
[37]
Lollerson :D
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Miss KillSome
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.13 08:16:00 -
[38]
back to lvl4's..
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Chimii Lecto
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.13 08:25:00 -
[39]
Wow o.0
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 08:36:00 -
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Sounds normal to me. If you set up a ship to tank that torp, be sure to either feed it cap or have it inject itself, cause the station neuts, too.
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achoura
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Posted - 2008.11.13 09:16:00 -
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Old, old, old bug. One hit ko torps have been around since, well forever, but i'd assumed it had been fixed long ago, guess not. Petition and you'll get your ship back, for the people suggesting it's normal, that's after your resists were applied i.e it's impossible to tank that thing . I still think they should keep it in, having watched a friends 98.6% resisted raven be instapopped in a guristas 10/10 by a torp is comical once they realise it was doing 400K+ damage
Pimped af is usually a safe way to go with tanking, although if s bugged torp hits it it'll still pop. Failing that a pimped hic with cmd ship is next, with the exception of the eos and kinetic, with which the active tank and 99.9% resist is king. Hacs can do well but wil usually be sub par to cmd and infinity inferior to hics.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.13 09:30:00 -
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Its not a bug so will people stop tellng him it is. Anyone who did a little bit of research would know that most 10/10 plexs have a citadel torp that does a different damage type to the main ones. So since your doing gur (kin therm tank im guessing) then you were taking omgwtf damage on what is likely to be your weakest resist. So yeh basically its your own fault next time you should use something like a hic to tank.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 09:43:00 -
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Muninn is probably the best ship to tank that stage, 2x em hardener, eanm, damage control, 1600 plate. With a guardian to RR and feed cap you'll be fine, and it has 460k EHP versus EM.
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Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.11.13 09:52:00 -
[44]
Originally by: ShadowandLight
thanks for the kind words, ill keep at it and make the ISK back
im not sure how "id" know about it though, seeing i never ran the plex before, and of course, there isnt a warning about "hey this is gonna insta pop any BS's u bring in here"
also, really, did CCP REALLY make plexs for BS's, then say, well u cant possible TANK this, so speed tank it with a AF?
1) this is f... exploration, don't expect information what's inside plex. Explore, explorer.
2) 10/10 is not plex "for BS". This is plex for gang. Logistics and stuff, you know.
3) do not undock if you are not prepaired to loose your ship.
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 13/11/2008 13:51:22
sounds like a bug, eve calculates damage after resists, so if he got hit for 585k after resists, even if he had 90% resist, and took only 10% of that it would have been hard to surive, thats like 58k damage. also 585k after resists, even 30% resist it like what...near 1mil damage?
and its a thor torpedo, was he not set up to tank that?
let us know if you get it back.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2008.11.13 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
I hope you realize that that 583690 damage is the total damage you have taken in the whole complex and not how much the missile did.
You should take a look at your game logs C:\Documents and Settings\{user}\My Documents\EVE\logs\Gamelogs\ to see how much damage it really did.
That torpedo did not do 583690 damage.
That torpedo did not do 583690 damage.
That torpedo did not do 583690 damage.
Got it? 
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:00:00 -
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according to his kill mail it did
Damage Taken: 583690
Involved parties:
Name: Thor Torpedo I / Sansha's Nation (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 583690
damage taken is = damage done by the torpedo in his log.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:01:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 13/11/2008 13:51:22
sounds like a bug, eve calculates damage after resists, so if he got hit for 585k after resists, even if he had 90% resist, and took only 10% of that it would have been hard to surive, thats like 58k damage. also 585k after resists, even 30% resist it like what...near 1mil damage?
and its a thor torpedo, was he not set up to tank that?
let us know if you get it back.
IT IS NOT A BUG
the damage listed was accumulated over probably 10+ torps. Each one does 180k damage before resists, and looking at the amount of damage he took (which is AFTER resists) he was in the pocket for a long time.
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Captain Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:02:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
according to his kill mail it did
Damage Taken: 583690
Involved parties:
Name: Thor Torpedo I / Sansha's Nation (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 583690
damage taken is = damage done by the torpedo in his log.
its damage over time you damn noob
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:02:00 -
[50]
The only way it would be a bug is if he had a log entry that said:
Thor torpedo belonging to Sansha Battlestation hits you for 583.690.00 damage
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:10:00 -
[51]
I agree, missions should be riskless. Petition your loss. 
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Local Jobs
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:25:00 -
[52]
I think you got what you deserved, dont think you can **** with the Sansha by just swanning into their special shipyard home of love, *****!
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Aeo IV
Amarr
Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:26:00 -
[53]
WTB Sansha's Nation Thor Torp Is plz
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Evanghelista
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:30:00 -
[54]
1. CCP we lose ships in complexes ! wtf
2. CCP if you reimburese that guy i'm gonna quit!
3. People of eve ! ...
4. hullshot
5. nerf torps!
6. golems are the new WCS ...oh wait
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:30:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Chaos Hellbreth
apparently someone didn't tell Sansha's Nation that missiles were nerfed and that Citadel Torps are ineffective vs. ships smaller than their own size class....
Golem sig radius is usually huge with all the shield mods.
Fail joke.
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente
Art of War
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:37:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Narfas Deteis
2) 10/10 is not plex "for BS". This is plex for gang. Logistics and stuff, you know.
Although he should have done the research on how to tank the ubertorpedos before warping in, anyone who actually read his first post would have seen that he DID have the foresight to have two logistics ships giving him shield.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:48:00 -
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guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
Yeah. Thats 180k em damage for you right there. Tank EM.
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Lord Zap
Caldari
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:04:00 -
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owned
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:08:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 13/11/2008 15:09:01
Originally by: ShadowandLight
guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
What was your EM resist?
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Although he should have done the research on how to tank the ubertorpedos before warping in, anyone who actually read his first post would have seen that he DID have the foresight to have two logistics ships giving him shield.
But i think he missed the part about "omgwtf alpha damage" that torp deals. Its DPS is crap but alpha is well enough to oneshot wrongly setup ships.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:19:00 -
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EM resist was in the 85 range with a faction extender onboard
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:19:00 -
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nub done the same plex in a tier 1 bs (dominix) ...
The cit torp at the end of that plex does a different damage type ....
Just have a buffer hp tank and rely on that to be remote repped.
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Midnighter
The Causality
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:28:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Midnighter on 13/11/2008 15:30:37
We used to walk the Sansha plex using a super tanked and remote repped Munnin as the bait.
The kinetic torp would take it down to 5% armour from full shield, but the 2 minute launch time meant we were ready for each shot.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:29:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 13/11/2008 15:29:49
Originally by: ShadowandLight
EM resist was in the 85 range with a faction extender onboard
So you had over 600 sig radius (if you had shield rigs you could get even more - around 650'ish)
From 180 000 damage torp you would recieve around 65% of damage (usually more) = 117000 damage.
117 000 times 0,15 (after 85% resist) = 17,550 damage. Yes - you just got hit for 17,5k damage - and thats for easy calcs. Im pretty sure it is a bit higher due to sig radius vs explo radius formula but CBA to check exact.
Thus = you had WRONG tank for this plex. Next time aim at 95% EM resist and you might survive it.
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above is on EM torps. I dunno if sansha fires kinetic ones - never did sansha 10/10
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white kight
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: white kight on 13/11/2008 15:46:06
We did a Serpentis 10/10 with my cerb racially tanking, 1 x ishtar with 5 heavy armour bots and a couple of light repair bots from the drakes and ravens i was in there with. Sig radius is your friend my friend
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
I did a 10/10 gurista's plex once, we had a Gallente command ship with 90+ resists. It died in 30 seconds. TWICE.
Get over it.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Trevor Warps on 13/11/2008 16:14:34
10/10 plex ...
Massive multiplayer online game ...
Got the hint ?
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:18:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Edited by: Trevor Warps on 13/11/2008 16:14:34
10/10 plex ...
Massive multiplayer online game ...
Got the hint ?
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
get more facts before u post, get my hint?
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:22:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Megan Maynard
Originally by: ShadowandLight
guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
I did a 10/10 gurista's plex once, we had a Gallente command ship with 90+ resists. It died in 30 seconds. TWICE.
Get over it.
with 2 logistics?
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:24:00 -
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logistics are about activly tanking the damage once your all in etc.
until the help arrives you need to be able to handle the alpha + any enviromental effects, like cit torps, AOE dmg and neuts.
that means uber res and decent hp, as said over and over.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
10/10 plex ...
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:29:00 -
[72]
Originally by: ShadowandLight
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
1 + 2 + 2 = 5
If you cant even get a pilot count right, dont expect to do a 10/10 in easy mode.
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Haleuth
Amarr
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:31:00 -
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So there were 6 of you doing this plex and nobody thought to do any intel on what you were about to face?
It seems that you ain't really playing this game to win bro.
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:31:00 -
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what Deva Blackfire told you, shield tanked bs is wrong for this... I doubt your golem had 20k shield hp so it would die from the first hit. and yes sanshas has em torp, same as guristas. The difference is that guristas allso shoots a rail gun or something and sanshas neuts.
but yeah big buffer armor tank or a minmitar t2 cruiser will do the tanking beter then a shieldtanked golem :P
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:32:00 -
[75]
Originally by: ShadowandLight
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Edited by: Trevor Warps on 13/11/2008 16:14:34
10/10 plex ...
Massive multiplayer online game ...
Got the hint ?
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
get more facts before u post, get my hint?
And you still dont understand written word. You could use 100 logistic and you WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAYS. Why? Because YOUR TANK WAS BAD. You cannot tank alpha from torp on BATTLESHIP using 85% resist. Even plated HAC has problems tanking that torp with 85% EM resist and it has 4x smaller sig than you had.
Next time either bump EM resists to 92-95% or bring other ship. Yes - you got almost complete walkthru of this problem and you still ignore it.
Also another hint: most 10/10 are doable with 3 ships - but they need to be fit properly (+ expensive mods if you want to use damage dealer as tank too).
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Haleuth
Amarr
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:32:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
1 + 2 + 2 = 5
If you cant even get a pilot count right, dont expect to do a 10/10 in easy mode.
This
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:45:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Haleuth
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
1 + 2 + 2 = 5
If you cant even get a pilot count right, dont expect to do a 10/10 in easy mode.
This
last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx
Cool, so you planned ahead to bring something to salvage you ****ty ship's wreck.
Look, there is not much point to you being here. You started off as a hatewhine post, and then you just kept on in this trend, mostly disregarding helpfull post and responding to flames.
So ... just buy another ****ty ship, go back in there, get owned, petition and repeat until you quit.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:50:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Yes - you got almost complete walkthru of this problem and you still ignore it.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:52:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight
last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx
Cool, so you planned ahead to bring something to salvage you ****ty ship's wreck.
Look, there is not much point to you being here. You started off as a hatewhine post, and then you just kept on in this trend, mostly disregarding helpfull post and responding to flames.
So ... just buy another ****ty ship, go back in there, get owned, petition and repeat until you quit.
my number 1 complaint is that , if that torp DPS is correct, that you cant TANK the hardest plex in the game with one of the most EXPENSIVE ships in the game
that doesnt make sense, IMO. WHY BOTHER MAKING SUPER HP SHIPS if you need to SPEED TANK THE HARDEST plex in the game
really, why bother making t2 battleships
2nd complaint is im assuming post patch, the torp DPS is screwed up
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Karanth
Gallente
Independent Fleet
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:53:00 -
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Three guesses where the OP sits on this graph.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 17:05:00 -
[82]
Originally by: ShadowandLight
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight
last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx
Cool, so you planned ahead to bring something to salvage you ****ty ship's wreck.
Look, there is not much point to you being here. You started off as a hatewhine post, and then you just kept on in this trend, mostly disregarding helpfull post and responding to flames.
So ... just buy another ****ty ship, go back in there, get owned, petition and repeat until you quit.
my number 1 complaint is that , if that torp DPS is correct, that you cant TANK the hardest plex in the game with one of the most EXPENSIVE ships in the game
that doesnt make sense, IMO. WHY BOTHER MAKING SUPER HP SHIPS if you need to SPEED TANK THE HARDEST plex in the game
really, why bother making t2 battleships
2nd complaint is im assuming post patch, the torp DPS is screwed up
still being dumb:
1. its not DPS but ALPHA. I can find you guns which deal 10 dps but have ALPHA of 15 000. And if you can not survive 15 000 there is absolutely NO forgiving. You die.
Torp is SAME. It deals 400 (?) DPS but its ALPHA is HUGE. What you already saw.
2. there were no t2 battleships when 10/10 plexes were run. And people RAN them. Even FARMED them. They were as hard or even MUCH HARDER (station ultima with mega-i-pwn-you gun anyone?)
3. golem is primarily MISSION and RATTING ship not dedicated TANKER. Dedicated TANK ships are called COMMAND SHIPS and HEAVY INTERDICTORS. Check bonuses, check base resists, check HP amount.
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Sailon
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Posted - 2008.11.13 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: ShadowandLight
guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
Yeah. Thats 180k em damage for you right there. Tank EM.
so thats why they say dont fit mwd :D
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Mc Fraser
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:03:00 -
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lol the most famout torp ingame.
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Spenz
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:07:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Spenz on 13/11/2008 18:13:52
Buahahaha Sansha Battlestation ULTIMA has claimed another victim.
This is NOT a bug. This is ultima we are talking about, the meanest, baddest station that afaik has NEVER been defeated with anything smaller than a gang of capital ships (back when you could still bring cap ships into plexes).
No it cannot be soloed. A guy who had a passive nighthawk with 92% EM resists was still instapopped by the first torpedo. Don't bother using the old wolf-bait trick either, because ultima has a 70+ km webber on it.
So no it isn't a bug. You encountered the true PVE endgame boss and decided to try it solo.
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DeadRow
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:31:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Spenz
This is ultima we are talking about, the meanest, baddest station that afaik has NEVER been defeated with anything smaller than a gang of capital ships (back when you could still bring cap ships into plexes.
Doubt that. I know the 10/10 is hard, but it impossible sub-cap. As others have said resists aren't high enough, not a bug.
Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
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Mr Ignitious
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
Three guesses where the OP sits on this graph.
i remember this, fav pic ever. My guess, he's lynched. Or on a stake. =)
Clearly the OP doesn't know how KM's work, all the carebearing and he seemed to have forgotten =)
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:41:00 -
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This has to be a troll ... or else it one helluva dumb carebear.
I mean ... 10/10 plex ... the thoughest stuff in this game.
But no, that didn't register. He just happily went in. Of course he was prepared, he had Faction mods on his ship, ensuring the win. Also, said ship is T2, and everybody knows T2 is win. And just to walk-in-the-park it even more, he brought two logistics carebears.
Foreseeing the success of his masterplan, he even brought a salvage ship to collect the spoils of victory !
Then pop he went ... and he cried ...
Life is hard when you leave you cozy lvl 4 missions ...
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Neddy Fox
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:14:00 -
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It's not a bug. It's just what happens if you think you're 1337, and can do it all.
We finished this plex with a claymore (not sure if we looted the Golem :P) and I know you can do it with a nighthawk too, and a vulture will laugh at it too. Just bring a scimi or basilisc, and KNOW WHAT'S COMING.
S&L : Read up information about plexes before you go in. I know I can't do this in my 1 bill Domi, which means I won't loose my ship in such plexes.
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Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.14 07:47:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Lord Zap
owned
how did you find me here :(
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Dominik Miethling
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Posted - 2008.11.14 09:00:00 -
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Did this one in an Abaddon with a few Friends. Quite easy. Problem with the Golem is, marauders don't have that much HP and u need either really high resist or much HP(prefer both ;)). We also lost an (unplated) muninn to one torp before we did it with the Abaddon as tank.
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.11.14 14:35:00 -
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so...
how did it go? what did CCP say? was that a bug or not?
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.14 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
Its a challenge and why its the toughest ranked plex in the game 10/10.
Good luck on working your way up again.
BTW that plex dropped a 22nd overseer's effect (110 million) and a pithi A-Type X-Large Shield Booster (700 mil).
Then it wasn't a 10/10.
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Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
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Gorjer
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.14 15:13:00 -
[94]
null Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Omarvelous
Its a challenge and why its the toughest ranked plex in the game 10/10.
Good luck on working your way up again.
BTW that plex dropped a 22nd overseer's effect (110 million) and a pithi A-Type X-Large Shield Booster (700 mil).
Then it wasn't a 10/10.
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lol! yup thats 9/10, and thats **** compared to this thing! took us 3 times until we mastered this one. Admittadly the second time, the nubby ceptor pilot flew into the webbing frigs and 'pop goes the weezle' ... stuff died.
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2008.11.15 04:47:00 -
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Duplicated thread.
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