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Trovax
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:25:00 -
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Just now i had 2 players hand me all their stuff and litterally cancel their accounts there and then. Surely this isnt the effect CCP was after?
WITHOUT SOUNDING LIKE IM WHINING (cos im really honestly not not), but i think CCP need to re-think the missile nerf that just happened, even if it mean rethinking the speed nerf too. Quite a few people in my corp have trained for missile skills, due to the nature of our corp we require them. However over the last couple of days Alot of my crew have been perturbed by the nerfing. Honestly i dont mind, but one thing that does bother me is the fact that people have spent months and even years training for longer range, faster speed, faster ROF, etc... only to have it all 'cut back'. Some of my crew feel like they have been put back to the beginning with their training, or felt like they have wasted the time training certain skills when they could have been training others.
Personally i have been training for Manticore and covert ops ever since i laid eyes on it, although i havent tried yet, im getting the impression from the others that my 212km strike range has been reduced to nothing. To be perfectly honest, with the fact that the manticore is built from minmatar leftovers, and has the tank of a choclate teapot, my range was indeed my tank, even though cruise missiles didnt really do much damage with a single bomber anyway (although i did manage to take out a harpy once on my own), but with a few of us we could be of some use in combat. I certainly think that those ships that dont have the option to really use anything else should have been given a little more consideration. Not to mention the time that all the players, not just my crew, but all those out of the 250'000 players that play eve, have now lost their edge which they spent time and real money training.
Im sure the same thoughts apply to all those that enjoyed buzzing around me in their interceptors at 9000m/s killin my manticores when i fukked up and forgot to cloak.
As a whole.... im not sure the two nerfs were even necessary. things were ok as they were. So far i have enjoyed all of what eve has had to offer, yeah ive not been happy with some of it, but eventually gotten to understand why and eventually enjoyed it too. But this is a bit of a chunk thats been removed, not just for me but for all players.
Anyways. Nuf said.
"I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:27:00 -
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Those who do not die will be made stronger.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/11/2008 22:27:37
You do realise cruise range has not been changed?
Anyway if more quit can i haz their stuff?
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Nakimoto
Caldari
Unnatural Growth
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:29:00 -
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willing to take percentage of stuff my way
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:29:00 -
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Obama quote to sum up QR:
"You can't use a sledgehammer when you need a scalpel"
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 Originally by: CCP Oveur
Just donęt forget the reach-around.
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Karentaki
Gallente
Fighting While Intoxicated
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Karentaki on 13/11/2008 22:30:22
Look, lots of mission runners will cry, but I doubt that many will actually quit, and if they do, good riddance.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Officer Deteis
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:31:00 -
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the Nerf was total BS to caldari mission runners. heavy missiles and cruise missiles do crap to smaller ships now and when you are in a raven with cruise missiles you now have a short mission take forever.
I agree 100% with you, Trovax :)
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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Those who do not die will nerfed until they do die, then nerfed again to make sure.
fixed it for you
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Everyone Dies
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim
Obama quote to sum up QR:
"You can't use a sledgehammer when you need a scalpel"
obama is going to be the beginning of the end of the us
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Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/11/2008 22:33:17
Originally by: Karentaki
Edited by: Karentaki on 13/11/2008 22:30:22
Look, lots of mission runners will cry, but I doubt that many will actually quit, and if they do, good riddance.
Mission runners use that many stealth bomber in missions? Must have been doing something wrong all the time.
Assuming they are mission runners, missions still work fine with missiles. Havent done pvp with missiles so cant comment on that.
However also taking account your post before you editted it, i think you got serious issues and you might need help.
@officer, ever tried hitting an orbitting frig in a turret BS? USE DRONES
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Those who do not die will be made stronger.
I am one of the weak, soon to perish.
Hmm.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:37:00 -
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THAT'S WHAT HE SAID!
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Trovax
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Assuming they are mission runners, missions still work fine with missiles. Havent done pvp with missiles so cant comment on that.
However also taking account your post before you editted it, i think you got serious issues and you might need help.
@officer, ever tried hitting an orbitting frig in a turret BS? USE DRONES[/quote
Ever tried a LVL 4 mish (IE World collide) solo where your warp scrmabled in your CNR and cruise missiels aint doing nought to the frigs?? Its a right B***H when it goes pop. Yeah drones, but can you really take out 4 or 5 scrammers before 60 ship pop you? On hell of a tank if you can.
"I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" |
Plim
Gallente
Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:37:00 -
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This patch seems to have irritated people more than any patch ever. I've been playing since 2003 and i'm not sure if I can remember seeing this volume of forum rage.
Personally I haven't felt effected by these changes (although I haven't tested my missiles yet, and I supported the nano-nerf). However the sheer number of ****ed off people implies that CCP may have gone too far. We'll see how things go in the next few weeks.
EVE 'Megacorp or STFU' Online |
Bashia Verloren
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Everyone Dies
Originally by: Haradgrim
Obama quote to sum up QR:
"You can't use a sledgehammer when you need a scalpel"
obama is going to be the beginning of the end of the us
uh-huh. sure.
whereas crazy old McFail and Gov Failin (or, the Maverick and the MILF) would have actually been the end of the end of the US
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Officer Deteis
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:43:00 -
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lets leave this on the topic of eve. . . . XD
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Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/11/2008 22:46:05
Originally by: Trovax
Originally by: Furb Killer
Assuming they are mission runners, missions still work fine with missiles. Havent done pvp with missiles so cant comment on that.
However also taking account your post before you editted it, i think you got serious issues and you might need help.
@officer, ever tried hitting an orbitting frig in a turret BS? USE DRONES
Ever tried a LVL 4 mish (IE World collide) solo where your warp scrmabled in your CNR and cruise missiels aint doing nought to the frigs?? Its a right B***H when it goes pop. Yeah drones, but can you really take out 4 or 5 scrammers before 60 ship pop you? On hell of a tank if you can.
*Furb thinks really hard*
Yeah i did worlds collide yesterday in a CNR (serious). There seems to be only a small group of hardcore whiners who insist on shooting frigates with cruise missiles. DONT DO IT. I still can kill destroyers fine with cruise missiles (allthough i prefer medium drones vs them). If you cant kill the scramming frigs before your ship blows up, you are doing it wrong. (When you got 60 ships shooting you including 5 scrammers in worlds collide you are also doing it wrong).
Anyway i even measured time on worlds collide (wanted to go check if CNR or navy mega was faster, cnr with some t2 stuff and much named, mega faction fitted, t2 skills for everything, quite some sp in gunnery, much less in missiles, barely in shield tanking). But i decided it isnt worth it to compare to to navy mega since it is pretty obvious CNR is still faster. Serpentis used to be the rats where navy mega could compete with CNR, but CNR has been boosted against many npcs, especially serpentis in quantum rise. (group your cruise missiles and defenders are neglectable). It took me 40 minutes to complet worlds collide in a CNR.
Edit: Not to mention my CNR has no target painter (seriously doubt it will get one), and got a large shield booster with cap power relay (4 BCS ftw), and a t1 boost amp (t2 one requires me training a skill to lvl 5, way too much work). And still it does fine.
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Blastil
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:50:00 -
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Why should I care about players who laregely play the game solo or in insular groups? Its not like your quitting will have any effect on the way I play MY game. Now, if you missioned in lowsec with your CNR's more I might cry when you quit.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Those who do not die will be made stronger.
Please.... paraphrasing a Nihilist on the Eve Online forums is not allowed.
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Opertone
Caldari
SIEGE.
United Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:54:00 -
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those who do not die are left alone in the play ground :(
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MrTripps
Gallente
Penumbra Squadron
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:55:00 -
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Welcome to what Gal players have been going through for the last two years.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. Thompson. |
Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:56:00 -
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My Autocannons still work.. I happy 
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:56:00 -
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jesus is it really that hard to fit a target painter?
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:58:00 -
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not a rick roll
This may help you with the transition
SKUNK
Originally by: CCP Navigator
People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
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Oftherocks
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:00:00 -
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Even I am getting tired of these whines..... and I was the first one to whine about it
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
No, i play hello kitty online and just paid for 5 years to come here and make comments about stuff i know nothing about and Wranglers pants.
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Market Bandit
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:00:00 -
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what's this!? having to think about running the mission rather than locking and f1-f8 until it's done.......
light.....drones.......!!??? 
painters......webs.....!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Madness I tell you! What happened to my easy missions! I DEMAND THAT CCP FIX THIS NONSENSE IMMEDIATELY OR I WILL CANCEL MY 556 CNR MISSION RUNNING ACCOUNTS
/sarcasm off
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:09:00 -
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All this talk about dying or getting stronger has reminded me of a song.
When I look out there, it makes me glad I'm not you.
I've experiments to run.
There is research to be done.
On the people who are still alive.
And believe me I am still alive.
I'm doing Science and I'm still alive.
I feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive.
While you're dying I'll be still alive.
And when you're dead I will be still alive.
STILL ALIVE
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Foulque
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Blastil
Why should I care about players who laregely play the game solo or in insular groups? Its not like your quitting will have any effect on the way I play MY game. Now, if you missioned in lowsec with your CNR's more I might cry when you quit.
Yus ^^
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:11:00 -
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Hey, you guys all remember when Amarr were the laughing stock of Eve? 
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 13/11/2008 23:11:57
Originally by: Trovax
Ever tried a LVL 4 mish (IE World collide) solo where your warp scrmabled in your CNR and cruise missiels aint doing nought to the frigs?? Its a right B***H when it goes pop. Yeah drones, but can you really take out 4 or 5 scrammers before 60 ship pop you? On hell of a tank if you can.
the second M in MMORPG stands for "multiplayer"
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