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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 14/11/2008 02:50:56
Originally by: Pasha Cracken
Originally by: Everyone Dies
Originally by: Haradgrim Obama quote to sum up QR: "You can't use a sledgehammer when you need a scalpel"
obama is going to be the beginning of the end of the us
this
Yeah raising taxes on the upper class to levels lower than they were following World War II is just... I mean, how could we NOT think that by 2012 we'll all either be in gulags or working the collective farms?
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Oftherocks
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Yeah raising taxes on the upper class to levels lower than they were following World War II is just... I mean, how could we NOT think that by 2012 we'll all either be in gulags or working the collective farms?
Out of Pod is that way
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
No, i play hello kitty online and just paid for 5 years to come here and make comments about stuff i know nothing about and Wranglers pants.
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.14 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Oftherocks Out of Pod is that way
Actually, you aren't allowed to talk politics in Out of Pod.
Democrat Underground that way
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.14 03:28:00 -
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This just in: players are quitting a game because they suck at it. Sources say that instead of trying to improve their play, they are whining to the creators for cheats so that only they can win and no one else. --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.11.14 03:29:00 -
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THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |
Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.14 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit This just in: players are quitting a game because they suck at it. Sources say that instead of trying to improve their play, they are whining to the creators for cheats so that only they can win and no one else.
Yeah, because whining has never done anything... ohwai... Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Chucky
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.14 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lone Gunman
Originally by: Everyone Dies
Originally by: Haradgrim Obama quote to sum up QR:
"You can't use a sledgehammer when you need a scalpel"
obama is going to be the beginning of the end of the us
I think the Obama Quote "You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig". is more applicable here.
If you put a Chimp in a suit, is it still a Chimp?
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
Mutabae
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Posted - 2008.11.14 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit This just in: players are quitting a game because they suck at everything excepting massive whining and demonstrating how stupid they are.
FYP
I'll go one further. Whiners should stop breathing through their mouths (or just stop breathing FULLSTOP).
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Kransthow
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.14 07:58:00 -
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adapt and die
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.11.14 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 14/11/2008 08:00:49 Confirming that I will be receiving all the quitters stuff.
If anyone is quitting the US because they don't like Obama, I'll take their stuff too. ---
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Erim Kaluk
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2008.11.14 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Arri Gato Why is it wrong when large missiles have the same drawbacks as large turrets?
This.
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Murk Loar
Polytope
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Posted - 2008.11.14 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Roy Batty68 All this talk about dying or getting stronger has reminded me of a song.
When I look out there, it makes me glad I'm not you. I've experiments to run. There is research to be done. On the people who are still alive. And believe me I am still alive. I'm doing Science and I'm still alive. I feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive. While you're dying I'll be still alive. And when you're dead I will be still alive. STILL ALIVE
The cake wasn't really a lie. |
Jim Hazard
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Posted - 2008.11.14 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim Obama quote to sum up QR:
"You can't use a sledgehammer when you need a scalpel"
"yes we can" |
F FLETCH
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Plim This patch seems to have irritated people more than any patch ever. I've been playing since 2003 and i'm not sure if I can remember seeing this volume of forum rage.
Personally I haven't felt effected by these changes (although I haven't tested my missiles yet, and I supported the nano-nerf). However the sheer number of ****ed off people implies that CCP may have gone too far. We'll see how things go in the next few weeks.
I'm a 2003 player as well, I have a few accounts so life goes on but it is unreasonable to have spent years skilling a pilot to be a caldari missile expert in every field only to have a large percentage of it taken away in the blink of an eye. Yes I can still own you in a falcon (but not for long if people get there way), yes I still have uses and can mission if required, but I still can't help feeling like I have had one of my limbs cut off.
The only thing worse than some of the descions CCP make is the mess these forums have become over the last few years tbh.
No you can't have my stuff I will adapt but I'm entitled to an opinon which is a fact so many of the idiots on these forums seem to forget.
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Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:05:00 -
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I don't understand it.
Ratting still goes fine in a Raven and last night I was top dps of a gang with my Cerb... |
chung lo
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: chung lo on 14/11/2008 13:21:52 The problem i see is this a lot of new players have gone a traind up to fast into ships they carnt fly to full affect i.e the tech two missile boats and st****d on torps and cruise and not traind up anough skills to use them as intended, now im telling you this as i have the high level skills to use all the missiles in the game and i am having no problem with this patch. if you use big torps or cruise you can not hit fast moving targets that have a transversal speed greater than 0 or coming right at you and that how it should be.the problem is now that most pilots who are having trouble are not thinking out of the box, i.e if i carnt hit it with my big missile how can i hit that fast moving target thats clossing on me ?. answers on a post card please to blue peter. hint : drones or better skill training or even work as a team with your corp mates. now theres an idear. |
SCHLAMPEvomDIENST
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Arri Gato Why is it wrong when large missiles have the same drawbacks as large turrets?
Because Large Missiles are not Large Turrets!!
Enough explained?
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Squably
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:31:00 -
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So you lost deadweight who don't know how to adept to new situations and you got their stuff. thats a true win/win situation, dont complain be happy. Signature removed. Please do not imply profanity in your signature. Navigator
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Alia Xii
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:43:00 -
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I, by nature, am a long range missile spammer. I like to sit a billiongagillion kilometres away, fire my cruises and watch them pop. Am I bothered by this so-called "nerf"? No! I just fit target painters.
As people have said so many times before... adapt or die.
If they die, can I have their stuff? If you die, can I have your stuff? |
Herring
Caldari Incessant Onslaught
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Posted - 2008.11.15 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/11/2008 22:27:37 You do realise cruise range has not been changed?
Cruise range > target painter range so yes, cruise range has been nerfed. Unless you like the look of the little lights going boom that do no real damage.
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ouroboros trading
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.15 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Those who do not die will be made stronger.
apart from that guy in metallica's one video :( |
Rivur'Tam
X10 Punishment
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Posted - 2008.11.15 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Roy Batty68 All this talk about dying or getting stronger has reminded me of a song.
When I look out there, it makes me glad I'm not you. I've experiments to run. There is research to be done. On the people who are still alive. And believe me I am still alive. I'm doing Science and I'm still alive. I feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive. While you're dying I'll be still alive. And when you're dead I will be still alive. STILL ALIVE
]Is this you in this vid
.. I like teh secs and teh boobies |
ZenSun
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2008.11.15 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: F FLETCH
Originally by: Plim This patch seems to have irritated people more than any patch ever. I've been playing since 2003 and i'm not sure if I can remember seeing this volume of forum rage.
Personally I haven't felt effected by these changes (although I haven't tested my missiles yet, and I supported the nano-nerf). However the sheer number of ****ed off people implies that CCP may have gone too far. We'll see how things go in the next few weeks.
I'm a 2003 player as well, I have a few accounts so life goes on but it is unreasonable to have spent years skilling a pilot to be a caldari missile expert in every field only to have a large percentage of it taken away in the blink of an eye. Yes I can still own you in a falcon (but not for long if people get there way), yes I still have uses and can mission if required, but I still can't help feeling like I have had one of my limbs cut off.
The only thing worse than some of the descions CCP make is the mess these forums have become over the last few years tbh.
No you can't have my stuff I will adapt but I'm entitled to an opinon which is a fact so many of the idiots on these forums seem to forget.
I just can't stop rofl'ing when I see people speccing in faildari for 3 years, it's so lame, train something else... woops |
CalMiner
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Posted - 2008.11.16 21:50:00 -
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I used to do Mordus headhunter lvl 4 solo in my CNR within 40 minutes....shorter if i used t2 cruises....and now its a nightmare
i am switching to dominix...until it gets nerfed..........
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Harrent
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Harrent on 16/11/2008 22:06:15 Eve plays to a market of individuals that do not request to be doted on. They change the environment and the players are expected to create their own motives. That is the vision for Eve. Some players lack that and those are the ones that quit.
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They provide you an environment they consider fair, you deal with it and play the game as they want you to play it ;).
It says right in the user agreement that the game will change without notice. They changed it, it is more fair and is working more balanced (medium drones do not shoot things they are not inteded to anymore, Cruise missles shoot only larger itemsłas they were intedned to). We are expected to adapt and change our tactics :/, not change the rules back :).
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Semper Fi |
Furb Killer
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:10:00 -
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Awww poor you. I have done headhunters twice since patch i think. Both were before i upgraded launchers and BCU into caldari navy ones, i think it took me 30 minutes, might have been toward 40, but definately not more than that. You got drones for a reason.
This was done without any missile skill on lvl 5 (well besides standard missiles which is req for cruise missiles iirc), with barely shield tanking skills, with a CNR, decent drone skills but nothing special, quite crappy cap skills, normal t1 missiles.
Now i upgrades all bcus and launchers to caldari navy ones, and it goes quite a bit faster, i really notice a decent difference. Then to imagine that after QR with the whines how raven is useless a best named fitted CNR with sucky skills completely outperforms a faction fitted navy mega with good gunnery skills, imagine the difference before QR with both ships faction fitting.
(btw my personal experience is that after QR you can run many missions faster due to weapons grouping which result in 7 times less defender missiles if you got a CNR, only mission which takes longer is those missions where you got to fly far, like worlds collide). ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Harrent
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
(btw my personal experience is that after QR you can run many missions faster due to weapons grouping which result in 7 times less defender missiles if you got a CNR, only mission which takes longer is those missions where you got to fly far, like worlds collide).
Id like to see that as per their formula it appears that a Defender missle is actually buffed. Even if you group the missles the Defender still takes out the equivilant of 1 missle, thereby keeping the same ratio.
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Semper Fi |
Fettabob
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:36:00 -
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well, just to add some PvP aspect in here. I challenged my friend to a 1v1 on SiSi, he flies a raven so i thought: "hehe he's been nerfed to hell, easykill!^^".
Man was I surprised when i landed on top of him in my mega. I saw my shields go instant-poof, followed by my armor taking heavy damage in a cloud of torpedo-explosions.
Apparently he had exchanged an inv. field for a TP and was hitting me for full damage.
As a result, he won AS USUAL! The match was a lot closer than it used to be, but it ended with me hitting hull a few seconds before he did, thus granting him the victory.
I guess torpedoes still hurt like hell if you're in a face-to-face BS-fight.
p.s. yes, yes i'm aware i suck at flying the Mega, and that he had no tackling stuff on his raven, but who tackles in a gank-raven anyway?
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rivur'Tam
Originally by: Roy Batty68 All this talk about dying or getting stronger has reminded me of a song.
When I look out there, it makes me glad I'm not you. I've experiments to run. There is research to be done. On the people who are still alive. And believe me I am still alive. I'm doing Science and I'm still alive. I feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive. While you're dying I'll be still alive. And when you're dead I will be still alive. STILL ALIVE
]Is this you in this vid
Yeah. I'm the one clapping at the end. Yay! \o/
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Ranger 1
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Plim This patch seems to have irritated people more than any patch ever. I've been playing since 2003 and i'm not sure if I can remember seeing this volume of forum rage.
Personally I haven't felt effected by these changes (although I haven't tested my missiles yet, and I supported the nano-nerf). However the sheer number of ****ed off people implies that CCP may have gone too far. We'll see how things go in the next few weeks.
Plim, think back a few years. Back to when sig radius and explosion velocity were first introduced (or for that matter tracking for turrets).
You'll notice that there was the same reaction on the boards, very nearly word for word and post for post. The only difference being that now there are a heck of a lot more people playing, and they tend to generate proportionately more and longer threads. Well, actually, it really isn't entirely proportional with the population... I would have expected even more response with our current population.
The point being, this was not unexpected... and this too shall pass.
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