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Mayobe
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:07:00 -
[421]
The IGB doesn't communicate with the EVE server at all. Also it is modular in nature and therefore does not cause lag or any other problems for the rest of the client.
jfc
Stop looking for reasons to say no to everything.
/signed (with a backflip and a judo chop for good measure)
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Dragonaire
Caldari
Corax.
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.04 05:08:00 -
[422]
Mayobe You are both right and wrong 
You're right that they IGB isn't proxied through CCP but you are wrong that it doesn't cause lag because it does since the eve client is single thread meaning everything else in the client have to wait on it to finishing display the web page before the other code can run. And for those of you that have missed it the several times it has been explain in this thread alone, the IGB can't be removed without also remove most of the user interface as the same code is used for both i.e. the IGB is part of the UI for eve itself.
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Finds camping stations from the inside much easier.
Designer of Yapeal for Eve API.
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Mayobe
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:33:00 -
[423]
-.-
How does that qualify as lag?
Furthermore, if the client is so utterly crippled as you describe then how is it that I can click a url and then browse the market and navigate my ship while I wait for the page to load?
 %^#$
Why do I keep posting on these forums?
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Dragonaire
Caldari
Corax.
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.06 17:33:00 -
[424]
CCP has been working on making the client more thread safe but much of it doesn't seem to be and I've had cases where the client does lock up until it finishes with a page so when others that have looked more closely at the code said its because of being mostly single thread I believe them until someone else proves them wrong
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Finds camping stations from the inside much easier.
Designer of Yapeal for Eve API.
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Reznek
Caldari
New Oracle Industrial
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Posted - 2009.06.11 03:21:00 -
[425]
IGB SUCKS !!!
simple as that...
fix it! |
Silvian Queastia
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Posted - 2009.06.13 05:40:00 -
[426]
an ingame streaming tv station
or
ingame radio station guide
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Iyotaka
Iyotaka Union
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Posted - 2009.06.14 11:12:00 -
[427]
yes. give igb some love - or it's replacement.
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Trismegistos Imo
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.06.15 13:19:00 -
[428]
 Originally by: Ix Forres
 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
What he said :) |
Crowdad
Nisroc Angels
Dark Cadre
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Posted - 2009.06.21 17:46:00 -
[429]
please fix the IGB. HORRIBLE render times make debugging IGB projects impossible. Gettting pilots to use something that is **** doesn't work.
If I build a great fleet management tool that tells the commander where everyone is, who's AFK, what everyone's fielding in their ships; But NOBODY uses it because of how ANNOYING the slow rendering is, its very upsetting.
There are huge possibilities with the IGB, we could do so much stuff... We WANT to do these things and make EVE a much more pleasant game. But current state of the IGB doesn't let us do that.
Please fix it!
Eve application developer. |
JAK480
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Posted - 2009.06.22 06:32:00 -
[430]
signed |
Lia Ferrara
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Posted - 2009.06.22 15:49:00 -
[431]
/signed
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Captain Zienna
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.22 16:00:00 -
[432]
/signed
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Le Ming
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Posted - 2009.06.22 19:31:00 -
[433]
/sign
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Celebrain
1st Steps Academy
Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 03:19:00 -
[434]
Yes, lots of us want a better browser, want to build better value-added services that can be accessed from within the game, etc...
But hasn't CCP flat out said, no way, period, already, since the IGB wasn't designed for us to do this with, it was only designed for them and their news and a few other other game related windows? So isn't there already no way possible to ever change their minds for the rest of time, without us all actually canceling our accounts over it, and making them hurt in the pocketbook unless they fix it? None of us care enough about it to do that, so bah... why am I even bothering to write this, we'll all just keep complaining anyway... and another threadnaught grows... |
Filofox
Amarr
28 Disciples and a Kangaroo
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Posted - 2009.06.25 05:09:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Mayobe
Also it is modular in nature and therefore does not cause lag or any other problems for the rest of the client.
It might be my 9800 GXT+ that's a bit outdated but whenever I open this 21 Salvager's Collection I get the lowest framerates. Add a bunch of stellar objects be it wrecks or whatever and see lag in action (client lag none the less).
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Mikkaras
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.06.26 20:17:00 -
[436]
YES! |
VheroKai
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.27 02:46:00 -
[437]
Originally by: Celebrain
But hasn't CCP flat out said, no way, period, already, since the IGB wasn't designed for us to do this with, it was only designed for them and their news and a few other other game related windows?
I don't care about "other windows", but waiting a minute or two for news to pop up on character selection screen is a no joy.
Fix it FFS!
--sig--
Originally by: Bunyip
The LOLqual is a capital-sized joke
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AeonOfTime
Minmatar
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:57:00 -
[438]
It seems to me that by making the Evelopedia more or less ingame compatible, CCP have already committed in part to having to review the ingame browser in some areas for it to work as intended. I gave up on making my tools ingame compatible because it drastically reduces the time I can spend on functionality.
In my eyes, to make it really useful ingame there are but two essential things:
- Rendering speed
- Slightly better HTML support (CSS a plus)
Even only with a good rendering speed a lot of tools out there would become interesting in an instant.
Of course no developer will ever truly be happy with it. Hell, we're still not happy with regular browsers, and see where they have come from... But I for one would love to be able to do more with the ingame browser, crappy as it may be.
It IS possible to make nice looking ingame content as I tried to prove with sytek.aeonoftime.com, but if you want to make something that people can use on a regular basis, it just has to be fast. It does not even matter if it looks good or not.
So YES, please make the ingame browser better - just a bit. We don't need a REAL browser!
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Survivor Aid
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Posted - 2009.06.29 22:21:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Ix Forres
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Sandor Krejaa
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Posted - 2009.07.01 01:07:00 -
[440]
Why should CCP waste time and effort on an IGB when everyone can already get a far better IGB using a FREE tool such as XFire? (that works far, far better than the IGB ever has or will).
The IGB can be removed for all I care, the XFire browser gives me all the functionality I need, it works just like Mozilla or FireFox, heck it even plays YouTub video, and I can listen to Eve Radio with it using the Flash Player.
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Gentle Behn
Grey Templars
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Posted - 2009.07.01 17:18:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Ix Forres
Yup
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Kleverweis
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Posted - 2009.07.12 03:02:00 -
[442]
signed
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.13 19:57:00 -
[443]
I support this proposal.
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Saint VII
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2009.07.14 20:38:00 -
[444]
As we are amazed with the technical competence that CCP demonstates over the years, we cannot quite understand why such a brilliant team of developers did such a poor job creating a web browser. This is clearly in need of significant improvement.
For those who are saying the IGB cannot impact client performance, that is not true. When it is in the midst of rendering image-intensive pages (to the extent it is able to do that at all), even if I have it minimized, I lose framerates. It lags the entire client out.
However, this is more of a reason to fix it, not less. (The logic of some opponents on this thread totally escapes me..)
I am a noob. |
Toupe
Minmatar
Assisted Homicide
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Posted - 2009.07.15 19:03:00 -
[445]
+1 signed
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Treelox
Amarr
Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.07.17 06:27:00 -
[446]
Just came back to the thread to re voice my support.
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apostrophee
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Posted - 2009.07.18 10:41:00 -
[447]
It should be scrapped completely.
Either:
a) CCP spends man hours on this, taking away loads of dev time form things that really matter; or
b) CCP lets it continue to be a POS, and users continue to make use of it (as in IGB only aps/links)
Neither of those make me happy. I hate it when IGB is required. So just scrap it and let ppl alt tab (it's alot quicker than igb loading) or look at another monitor.
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Xero Shifter
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Posted - 2009.07.19 00:28:00 -
[448]
Yeah, ill sign.
Another problem is that most sites are not in just html any more, css and php are a huge part of websites. Along with javascript.
Without support for these, many of the sites dont work properly.
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Karaun Xavura
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:36:00 -
[449]
Originally by: Xero Shifter
Yeah, ill sign.
Another problem is that most sites are not in just html any more, css and php are a huge part of websites. Along with javascript.
Without support for these, many of the sites dont work properly.
PHP is server-side. 
Anyway...
/signed |
OrcephRyE
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:47:00 -
[450]
YAY! They should improve the in game browser! Or better yet introduce an normal brower in the game. Like FireFox with a few module changes and add-ons to force some security. ^_^
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