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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:11:00 -
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Well, I thought it was fine, but they could have at least TOLD us. Nearly got us killed today.
(Oh, btw, thats 3 threads at least now) ------------------------------------------------
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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:11:00 -
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Well, I thought it was fine, but they could have at least TOLD us. Nearly got us killed today.
(Oh, btw, thats 3 threads at least now) ------------------------------------------------
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:12:00 -
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I hardly remember who you are, and I dont really care. I'm stating my opinion.
And my opinion stands. NPCs were too easy to kill, they got a defence boost. Whats the problem?
Everyone knows the drill; warp to belt, cycle jam npcs, pound them to death. They dont fire back, they dont use drones/fof, so simply they're cargo containers with a little more health that shield/armor boost (And drop modulated tachyons when killed, not to mention huge bounties).
That was too easy imo, its better that they actually fire back. This way you can earn those nice 50m+ named items and 500k-1.5mil bounties (Which apparently arent "profitable" lol) while actually taking some heat from the npcs.
Good change. -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:12:00 -
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I hardly remember who you are, and I dont really care. I'm stating my opinion.
And my opinion stands. NPCs were too easy to kill, they got a defence boost. Whats the problem?
Everyone knows the drill; warp to belt, cycle jam npcs, pound them to death. They dont fire back, they dont use drones/fof, so simply they're cargo containers with a little more health that shield/armor boost (And drop modulated tachyons when killed, not to mention huge bounties).
That was too easy imo, its better that they actually fire back. This way you can earn those nice 50m+ named items and 500k-1.5mil bounties (Which apparently arent "profitable" lol) while actually taking some heat from the npcs.
Good change. -
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:13:00 -
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Sorry bud what alt a am I posing with ?????????????
11 mil skill points and you call me an alt !!!!!
Get real little boy, you wanna throw insults then do so .... but the sign of growing up is the ability to admit when you have made a mistake!
You evidently cannot read and so I make allowances - I still call you a 3.5 month old veteran - and now call you child without a diaper as your ability to assimilate information is evidently poor .
NO regards
Al Thorr
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:13:00 -
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Sorry bud what alt a am I posing with ?????????????
11 mil skill points and you call me an alt !!!!!
Get real little boy, you wanna throw insults then do so .... but the sign of growing up is the ability to admit when you have made a mistake!
You evidently cannot read and so I make allowances - I still call you a 3.5 month old veteran - and now call you child without a diaper as your ability to assimilate information is evidently poor .
NO regards
Al Thorr
I Am in shape, ROUND is a shape |

Borsig Rheinmetall
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:14:00 -
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I wasnt referring to you. I was referring to peaople who rant like mad on these forums with obvious alts.
Jesus people are jumpy around here.
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Borsig Rheinmetall
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:14:00 -
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I wasnt referring to you. I was referring to peaople who rant like mad on these forums with obvious alts.
Jesus people are jumpy around here.
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:25:00 -
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I have 9.5M skill points. Am I allowed to reply?
So basically now we have BS NPC's somehow armor tanking, with massive resistances, and infinite eccm mods, and infinite cap mods? Yet they are the same ships we are using? And of course they are doing this with a 1 mn mwd, and a med laser, and maybe a small shield extender? Wow, thats a neat trick. 
To Borsig, Since I cant really use my Mega's Hybrids on the local rats anymore, as they dont hit, and even if they did, they are totally resitant to thermal and kinetic, i just bought a Raven and spam paradise cruise all day. Oh fun. No strategy or skill needed. Then they nerf missles, so I will just log on to change skills and chat.
Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |

Lentia
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:25:00 -
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I have 9.5M skill points. Am I allowed to reply?
So basically now we have BS NPC's somehow armor tanking, with massive resistances, and infinite eccm mods, and infinite cap mods? Yet they are the same ships we are using? And of course they are doing this with a 1 mn mwd, and a med laser, and maybe a small shield extender? Wow, thats a neat trick. 
To Borsig, Since I cant really use my Mega's Hybrids on the local rats anymore, as they dont hit, and even if they did, they are totally resitant to thermal and kinetic, i just bought a Raven and spam paradise cruise all day. Oh fun. No strategy or skill needed. Then they nerf missles, so I will just log on to change skills and chat.
Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |

Xendie
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:26:00 -
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it is getting a bit annoying when 8 out of 10 npc battleships drop 1mn afterburners and mwd's and the other 2 drop a normal dual 250 rail.
one would think that with the speed they advance and with the damage output they have they could atleast drop battleship equipment 10 out of 10 times and maybe once out of those 10 drop a named item of some sorts. that wouldnt be to much to ask for i think. right now its redicilous with frigate equipment dropping from npc battleships.
i do like however that they are a bit harder to do now.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:26:00 -
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it is getting a bit annoying when 8 out of 10 npc battleships drop 1mn afterburners and mwd's and the other 2 drop a normal dual 250 rail.
one would think that with the speed they advance and with the damage output they have they could atleast drop battleship equipment 10 out of 10 times and maybe once out of those 10 drop a named item of some sorts. that wouldnt be to much to ask for i think. right now its redicilous with frigate equipment dropping from npc battleships.
i do like however that they are a bit harder to do now.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:28:00 -
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Ok how about we give NPCs human AI so they warp to a safespot, gather 30 ships, send in a scout and all gang warp to it when it warp scrambles you? And they do all this while smack talking as well.
That would make up for the infinite cap/eccm/armor-shield tanking eh? And it'd make the game much more interesting.
Until the devs manage to make up such an AI system, you'll have to do with the "slightly over-equipped mentally retarded" npcs which are quite balanced considering they have the AI of a monster from pacman.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:28:00 -
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Ok how about we give NPCs human AI so they warp to a safespot, gather 30 ships, send in a scout and all gang warp to it when it warp scrambles you? And they do all this while smack talking as well.
That would make up for the infinite cap/eccm/armor-shield tanking eh? And it'd make the game much more interesting.
Until the devs manage to make up such an AI system, you'll have to do with the "slightly over-equipped mentally retarded" npcs which are quite balanced considering they have the AI of a monster from pacman.
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:30:00 -
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Just change it back so not every god damn npc have MWD. It's so retarded.
kthxbye
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:30:00 -
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Just change it back so not every god damn npc have MWD. It's so retarded.
kthxbye
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Borsig Rheinmetall
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Borsig Rheinmetall on 09/07/2004 00:34:49
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considering they have the AI of a monster from pacman.
lmao. classic.
maybe if we get within 10k of the nerf, we can get it to uncloak. Wonder where it is?
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Borsig Rheinmetall
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Borsig Rheinmetall on 09/07/2004 00:34:49
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considering they have the AI of a monster from pacman.
lmao. classic.
maybe if we get within 10k of the nerf, we can get it to uncloak. Wonder where it is?
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W1rlW1nd
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Borsig Rheinmetall ...I was referring to peaople who rant like mad on these forums ... Jesus people are jumpy around here.
OMFG lol, you come screaming on the forums with demands and threats to ccp and claiming to represent the entire eve community- then u go back and edit your rant to tone it down and YOU think people are jumpy around here!!?!!
it's nice to see that you are now aware that you do not singularly represent the entire gaming community, it's nice to see that you now realise that your complaint was only one more opinion like anyone else.
...but after that crazy rant you just made, then edited- don't u dare accuse anyone else about ranting like mad- you have the record so far!;)
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W1rlW1nd
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Borsig Rheinmetall ...I was referring to peaople who rant like mad on these forums ... Jesus people are jumpy around here.
OMFG lol, you come screaming on the forums with demands and threats to ccp and claiming to represent the entire eve community- then u go back and edit your rant to tone it down and YOU think people are jumpy around here!!?!!
it's nice to see that you are now aware that you do not singularly represent the entire gaming community, it's nice to see that you now realise that your complaint was only one more opinion like anyone else.
...but after that crazy rant you just made, then edited- don't u dare accuse anyone else about ranting like mad- you have the record so far!;)
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Borsig Rheinmetall
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:37:00 -
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Oh I wouldnt say I have the record. But this one ****ed me off pretty good.
I have always seen stealth nerfs as devs trying to push an agenda under the table, under the customer's noses. If they hide it, can it be popular? Unlikely.
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Borsig Rheinmetall
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Posted - 2004.07.09 00:37:00 -
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Oh I wouldnt say I have the record. But this one ****ed me off pretty good.
I have always seen stealth nerfs as devs trying to push an agenda under the table, under the customer's noses. If they hide it, can it be popular? Unlikely.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.09 01:37:00 -
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Its CCP's game, if you dont like it:
Linkage
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.07.09 01:37:00 -
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Its CCP's game, if you dont like it:
Linkage
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.07.09 02:13:00 -
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I miss the ability to jam NPC BSes (I fly a scorp when NPCing) but when you could jam them it was just incredibly easy to kill them.
I think they should put the ability to jam them back in, but only if they give the BSes the abiltiy to jam you back. Also I would like to see them bump up the hit-points/dmg up a little bit,but would like it if their tracking was lowered a little as well. (Please note the 'littles' not 'Uber upgrade NPC BS of doom')
(making them 'smarter' would improve things, because tbh shooting at a NPC thats too dumb to move from behind a roid to get close-range is just not fun )
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.07.09 02:13:00 -
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I miss the ability to jam NPC BSes (I fly a scorp when NPCing) but when you could jam them it was just incredibly easy to kill them.
I think they should put the ability to jam them back in, but only if they give the BSes the abiltiy to jam you back. Also I would like to see them bump up the hit-points/dmg up a little bit,but would like it if their tracking was lowered a little as well. (Please note the 'littles' not 'Uber upgrade NPC BS of doom')
(making them 'smarter' would improve things, because tbh shooting at a NPC thats too dumb to move from behind a roid to get close-range is just not fun )
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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Psycho Doughboy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 03:13:00 -
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What this really boils down to is quite simple really.
Players of games where you have NPC spawns or AI players, get very frustrated when they see that self same NPC being given a huge advantage that they themselves do not have.
The worst fix in the universe to accomodate for the fact that an NPC might be weak in one area, is to give it a huge advantage in that area (ie by making AI troops invunerable to missile fire or by allowing them to see the whole map or by giving them uber weapons which negate a players shields)
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Psycho Doughboy
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Posted - 2004.07.09 03:13:00 -
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What this really boils down to is quite simple really.
Players of games where you have NPC spawns or AI players, get very frustrated when they see that self same NPC being given a huge advantage that they themselves do not have.
The worst fix in the universe to accomodate for the fact that an NPC might be weak in one area, is to give it a huge advantage in that area (ie by making AI troops invunerable to missile fire or by allowing them to see the whole map or by giving them uber weapons which negate a players shields)
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2004.07.09 03:52:00 -
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Corpmate killed a 6 mil isk Guristas. Loot: 1mn afterburner 1 siege launcher 1 medium cap booster (named) some other useless crap... yay
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2004.07.09 03:52:00 -
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Corpmate killed a 6 mil isk Guristas. Loot: 1mn afterburner 1 siege launcher 1 medium cap booster (named) some other useless crap... yay
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Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc. |
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