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LUC1FER
Rulers Of Mankind
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Posted - 2009.01.16 06:12:00 -
[121]
I support it.
I have bought Toons off forums.. and as a result, I am stuck with some ******ed names. Hell, I Created an alt with a ******ed name, and have actually trained her up to be a decent pilot.
For Corp Security issues, have the former name associated and viewable with the Limited API. Since any corporation serious about security will ask appliacnts for this anyhow, why the hell not.
Set a fee to it. Same as changing your picture. |
Tyson Gallane
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:54:00 -
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Lets say you are trying to find a war target called "L33tzt00big", but he has changed his name to "C4ntfindM3" in an attempt to evade you.
When you type "L33tzt00big" into your search, it should come up with "C4ntfindM3"'s page, with a tab showing his previous identities. His corp history etc would remain entirely unchanged. You track him easily and shoot him in the face.
If it's done like this then I definitely support it. 
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:57:00 -
[123]
 Originally by: evilphoenix
Just because YOU don't care about your character's name doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't care about their character's names.
If you cared about your character name, you wouldn't give your character such a stupid name that you would want to change it. Neither would you buy characters with silly names.
No support from me. |
evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.16 21:05:00 -
[124]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
If you cared about your character name, you wouldn't give your character such a stupid name that you would want to change it. Neither would you buy characters with silly names.
No support from me.
Thank you for your reply.
Now why won't you support it? I think every argument against has been thoroughly debunked. The exact implementation is up to CCP, character name history or whatever. Which, as a CSM, you would have a say in. |
evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.18 15:58:00 -
[125]
Please support this topic.
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Ted Grayham
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:43:00 -
[126]
Your avatar represents you in EVE Online. The fact that you will no doubt change while playing EVE implicits that you should be able to mirror that change unto your avatar. I see no reason not to let this happen, other than possible technical issues. Seeing as scamming and criminal activity is perfectly "legal" within the bounds of EVE, changing your name to get away could be seen as nothing more than a small addition to the gameplay features. |
Alexander Knott
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.18 23:16:00 -
[127]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: evilphoenix
Just because YOU don't care about your character's name doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't care about their character's names.
If you cared about your character name, you wouldn't give your character such a stupid name that you would want to change it. Neither would you buy characters with silly names.
No support from me.
I must've missed the warning message when I started that said "Don't choose a name that starts with an 'A' as fleet overviews are generally sorted by alphabet and you will be targeted first every time."
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Elena Morin'staal
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.19 14:00:00 -
[128]
What would be needed is a way to match the new name against the old name with regards to searches, buddy lists, etc, so that it is still possible to find people using the original name.
Then you'd need like a new tab, or an addition to employment history, called "known Aliases" - literally other names the character has gone by.
If you have them, I can't see a way for a scammer to hide by changing name, as long as people are smart and check the tab. |
evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.20 22:04:00 -
[129]
What is the critical number of supports before a CSM will champion the proposal?
Any other CSMs willing to comment on this?
Clearly your character names are important to you now, because you'll always be known as a CSM, unless afterwords you want to escape that title...
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Erick Voliffe
Celestial Vagabonds
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Posted - 2009.01.21 05:01:00 -
[130]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: evilphoenix
Just because YOU don't care about your character's name doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't care about their character's names.
If you cared about your character name, you wouldn't give your character such a stupid name that you would want to change it. Neither would you buy characters with silly names.
No support from me.
Here's another scenario, what if you've been playing awhile say 2 or more years(march will 3 years for me ) and oneday you come up with a name you like better. The option now is to just deal with what you have now or start a new character, i don't know about everyone else but i don't want to start over just to get a different name. Not that i don't like the name i got just have one i like more. 
Originally by: Elena Morin'staal
What would be needed is a way to match the new name against the old name with regards to searches, buddy lists, etc, so that it is still possible to find people using the original name.
Then you'd need like a new tab, or an addition to employment history, called "known Aliases" - literally other names the character has gone by.
If you have them, I can't see a way for a scammer to hide by changing name, as long as people are smart and check the tab.
"known aliases" , i like that idea.
Again i don't see what the big deal is, personally i don't see it effecting the way others play, hell you can even do some roleplaying as to the reason for the name change. Though something like this will need a limit.
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.23 01:19:00 -
[131]
Please support this proposal. |
LEGO Commander
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Posted - 2009.01.23 03:44:00 -
[132]
Hey... WoW lets you do it. Change your appearance, change your name... all for a nominal fee.
I guess if you don't have an awesome name like I do... you can change it if you want.
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.24 17:40:00 -
[133]
Originally by: LEGO Commander
Hey... WoW lets you do it. Change your appearance, change your name... all for a nominal fee.
I guess if you don't have an awesome name like I do... you can change it if you want.
You sir are probably the only supporter who doesn't want to change his/her name. Thank you for your support. |
Caleb Ayrania
Gallente
TarNec
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Posted - 2009.01.24 23:24:00 -
[134]
Havent read it all through..
But I would like this option, or at least some cool callsign feature..
Changing callsign should take maybe 24 hours?
Just my 2 isk
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Kevin Burkhoff
Gods of War
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Posted - 2009.01.26 23:39:00 -
[135]
Support!
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Aeron RU
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:05:00 -
[136]
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Efrim Black
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:39:00 -
[137]
Make it the cost double everytime it's used, starting at 25 million.
50/100/200/400/800/1.6 bil etc etc.
Until some kind of extreme cost for Concord allowing a name change, I do not support.
If thats not viable, try picking a good name from the beginning?
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:21:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Efrim Black
Make it the cost double everytime it's used, starting at 25 million.
50/100/200/400/800/1.6 bil etc etc.
Until some kind of extreme cost for Concord allowing a name change, I do not support.
If thats not viable, try picking a good name from the beginning?
I would expect they would want cashy money for this service, much like changing your character picture. That is a dev/balance team issue let them determine the specifics. Just give us the option!
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Angela Moore
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Posted - 2009.01.30 02:23:00 -
[139]
supported
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.30 03:04:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
evil - I'm somewhat on the fence on your proposal, and so is the playerbase it seems. While you do have 54 supports, you also have 135 replies in total, of which about 20 are you bumping the thread and most of the rest against it. Basically a 50/50 split after you take into account the people who also supported without a thumbs up. Convince more people to give it a thumbs up and I'll consider backing it.
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The majority of the against were worried about being scammed by the same person (IRL) but they just renamed the character using my proposal. The easy counter is, I scam you for 2b. Get on the forums, buy a new character for 1b with an alt. No record of my 'scamming' character ever buying a new character, and I scam you again. Oh, and I can sell my 'scamming' character and give someone else the headache of your 'grief'. All perfectly fine with CCP.
Then some whom are against it strongly believe that a character name means something. Clearly, I do too since I want to pick something else. So if a character name is so important, then why not let me change my character name?
Then the rest are worried we'll start having fleets where you call primaries starting with zzz and then zzzz and so on. I would expect that would happen, but short of some type of 'alliance/corp' mandate on changing your character name I don't expect everyone to do this.
So with that, give me more reasons why this is a bad idea.
Also, there have been items voted on that didn't have half as many supports. There have been items voted on that didn't have a majority of the community supporting it, which why should it? The nano nerf had maybe 50% support? I felt suicide ganking was fine. I think using an Orca to enable a -10 to suicide someone is genius.
So clearly, I'm on the opposite side of these arguments, but I'm not alone and they was, is, or did get discussed or passed.
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Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.31 01:04:00 -
[141]
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.31 02:54:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Ignition SemperFi
no
So constructive, I guess if all else fails just disagree without reason.
I will say, I do like that quote about not being paranoid. |
Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2009.01.31 04:03:00 -
[143]
Originally by: evilphoenix
So with that, give me more reasons why this is a bad idea.
Also, there have been items voted on that didn't have half as many supports. There have been items voted on that didn't have a majority of the community supporting it, which why should it? The nano nerf had maybe 50% support? I felt suicide ganking was fine. I think using an Orca to enable a -10 to suicide someone is genius.
1. I don't think it's a bad idea per se. I just don't think enough people think it's a good idea for me to champion it, which leads on to:
2. Just because other people are willing to champion things with less support doesn't mean I will. There's 7 other CSM's who may take up the cause with this amount of support (LaVista has already said no), but at this point I won't. If one of those CSM's brought the issue up for a vote, then I would look at it like every other issue brought up and vote accordingly. |
eliminator2
Annihilate.
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Posted - 2009.01.31 07:59:00 -
[144]
its a good idea and here is a suggestion
CCP could give each character a certain code so even if you change the name of your character the buddy list and stuff will automaticly change it to the right name so you wount get any misleads in your buddy list, allso if someone was to change that name how would it still exist as a charater when it doesnt belong to anyone? :D
just my 2 cents for help towards the character name change
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.31 23:23:00 -
[145]
I was against this, but after the arguments found here I am for this. As long as the cost increases per name change and the name change is listed in the players information sheet somewhere viewable by everyone.
I don't see a whole lot of people doing this as it would mess with your killboard stats. This would be a nice option for FCs that find themselves insta-primary or people named "AAAA" that always get insta primaried in fleet fights :)
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.31 23:46:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
1. I don't think it's a bad idea per se. I just don't think enough people think it's a good idea for me to champion it, which leads on to:
2. Just because other people are willing to champion things with less support doesn't mean I will. There's 7 other CSM's who may take up the cause with this amount of support (LaVista has already said no), but at this point I won't. If one of those CSM's brought the issue up for a vote, then I would look at it like every other issue brought up and vote accordingly.
What is the magic number of supports before you "champion" an idea? This thread has 142 posts and 57 supports. I went through all 5 pages and lost count at around 50 posts made by people who already ticked support. So it is more like 92 posts and 57 suports which is a very good number.
This topic is much more supported than Factional Warfare complex spawning that got THREE TOTAL REPLIES or a useless change like adding dumb stripes to medals
So what you are saying is that this topic is more popular and supported by more players than lots of other topics, but you do not wish to support it because you are too much of a ***** to take a side? You represent the people of EVE and talk to CCP for us, if the people of EVE support adding in elves to EVE then that is what you bring up. If you do not wish to listen to the people and champion the people's ideas then gtfo out of the CSM.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2009.02.01 01:56:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Vaal Erit
So what you are saying is that this topic is more popular and supported by more players than lots of other topics, but you do not wish to support it because you are too much of a ***** to take a side? You represent the people of EVE and talk to CCP for us, if the people of EVE support adding in elves to EVE then that is what you bring up.
yup, because abusing the person you want to take up your cause is a wonderful way of getting them to do it 
There is no magic number, but I don't think there are enough people saying "do this now" compared to the people who are saying "no, don't do this". If I felt strongly about this one way or the other, I would or wouldn't pick this topic up to champion or just say no - I'm still on the fence as to whether this is a good idea or not.
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If you do not wish to listen to the people and champion the people's ideas then gtfo out of the CSM.
Unfortunately for you, I can't just look at minorities (which 57 people are) and then demand that all of the eve payers want this. As I said, there are 7 other CSM's that can champion this right now, or you can wait to get a bit more support and then I'll consider it again. My job is to represent everyone in eve, for the betterment of everyone in eve, if that means I don't pick something up that I consider is on the fence, so be it.
As for adding elves to eve, you can get me 1k people who sign a thread saying yes and I won't champion that topic, just because you get a group of people who think it's a good idea doesn't necessarily make it a good idea for the game.
If you have such major issues with the way I'm conducting myself as a CSM, feel free to not vote for me the next time around, or maybe grow some balls and run yourself and then you can champion the things you want to champion.
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.02.01 14:26:00 -
[148]
Edited by: evilphoenix on 01/02/2009 14:34:49
Originally by: Omber Zombie
yup, because abusing the person you want to take up your cause is a wonderful way of getting them to do it
This is very rarely the way to go. I have always tried to be civil, and would like to encourage anyone whom feels strongly about this proposal or any proposal to do the same.
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If you do not wish to listen to the people and champion the people's ideas then gtfo out of the CSM.
Obviously anyone who plays is going to have some opinions, thoughts, or ideas about the game. Some we agree on, some we do not. Some we don't care about either way. I think the point here is, there have been topics with much less visibility that have been brought forth to the CSM.
There are only two CSM who have taken the time to reply. So the 'attack' isn't directed at solely Omber Zombie. I do realize you probably get messages like this and eve mails constantly, I know I sent a few eve mails :-p, but if I knew this was being read by the CSM, and had an idea where each of you stood I could debate my case.
Originally by: LaVista Vista
If you cared about your character name, you wouldn't give your character such a stupid name that you would want to change it. Neither would you buy characters with silly names.
No support from me.
You've never heard of someone whom created a character for the trial on a whim and then came to love the game but didn't want to sacrifice all the skill time they put into the character to create another?
Don't think I've seen many characters sell on the forums because it had a cool name, most of us whom buy characters buy them because we want to fly more cool ships, or more specialized ships (skill points).
Obviously the skill points are more important to me than the character's name. As they're important to the majority of players whom buy characters, but I've seen a few who didn't sell, or didn't get as much as they could because the name was horrible. I would think by supporting this proposal you would help the character market because now YOU can buy a more elite character and rename it to LaVista Vista! And all those crappy character names can be changed, thus anyone who cares enough not to buy a character with a bad name can now change it.
Did I mention that you can already buy a character and off load your scamming character thus hiding your identity?
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Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:35:00 -
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most of the reasons why i feel you shouldnt be able to change your name have already been listed.
but for me, the biggest one continues on with eve's consequences to your actions - actions creating, or buying the character. Deal with it.
The only time i would support it is after having your named nerfd by ccp due to a petiotion. You should have a one time option for the same cost as changing your char's face to change your name.
If it gets petitioned again and nerfd, rinse and repeat. |
Alex Logan
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.02 06:07:00 -
[150]
I could swing in either direction on this one. I think however I will support it. What keeps a person from changing their name in the real world to avoid something they did in their past? Nothing really. Though if you dig hard enough you could probably find the truth. Maybe add a skill, criminal investigation, to divulge info like this on people.
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