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Seth Kaaton
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.11.29 15:44:00 -
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I think it's a good idea.
I also think the buddy list should just be emptied whn the name is changed and then the character can tell anyone who they actually want to know their name that they have/are going to change it, would make much more sense seeing as one of the reasons people change their names IS to try and not be recognised...
As for people saying about scammers and thieves abusing this feature, surely the fact that you can already have 2 alts along with your main on a single account is more than enough for them to change their identity when they want/need to. The employment history could stay the same so if you knew of any events in other corps, you would still be able to link them to the various corps and add 2 and 2...
All in all it has my support
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Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Ministry of Information
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Posted - 2008.11.29 20:42:00 -
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It's an interesting idea, but the Name is the main (human) identifier in EVE, what gains and loses reputation in the universe. I'd definitely like to do this with 2 of my characters (really crap names from other players).
In additions to other suggestions here, the scam factor could be removed by;
- Only enable any character (ie. CharacterID) to change name once. ever.
- Only the name changes (nothing else, not id etc.) This way all the "Friends lists" would be current
- Flag the character ID information with "Former Name:".
As a side effect, I can see the market for sold characters would become more popular, as people could pick a new name for the character when they bought it (and would presumably differentiate 2nd hand characters vs. 3rd, 4th etc. characters).
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.01 11:29:00 -
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As you can see there are several ideas how to reduce the "scam" factor.
Please show your support.
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Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.12.01 14:38:00 -
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lol
notice how only people with funny names are supporting?
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.03 02:01:00 -
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Edited by: evilphoenix on 03/12/2008 02:06:29
I actually find it odd how many people oppose it because they feel it makes scamming easy.
 Originally by: Jah'Ret Khan
No, I mean creating lists of corp members within a corp and listing their prefered ships and fitouts, areas they are active and then using Locator Agents to monitor their movements.
I'm talking real intel.
Now stop trash talking my trash talking, your suppositions are just lazy and not very intelligent.
Except, as suggested I'm fine with some type of pointer to associate the new name.
It would be horrible for you to update your "intel" with the character's new name...
And isn't that the whole point of having a spy in this hypothetical corp?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.12.03 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jah'Ret Khan
...No, I mean creating lists of corp members within a corp and listing their prefered ships and fitouts, areas they are active and then using Locator Agents to monitor their movements.
I'm talking real intel.
Now stop trash talking my trash talking, your suppositions are just lazy and not very intelligent.
Still the names would be tied into their former names, I really don't see where this becomes hard for you.
To the OP, thanks for taking my cause to this place, I guess it was time.
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Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Amjax
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Posted - 2008.12.03 14:21:00 -
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A brilliant idea that allows a character name change whilst still keeping it's past history.
Should have been a feature a long time ago imo, when characters were allowed to be sold for ISK.
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Dasfry
Caldari
Demio's Corporation
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.04 00:50:00 -
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Demio's Corporation
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
It's an interesting idea, but the Name is the main (human) identifier in EVE, what gains and loses reputation in the universe. I'd definitely like to do this with 2 of my characters (really crap names from other players).
In additions to other suggestions here, the scam factor could be removed by;
- Only enable any character (ie. CharacterID) to change name once. ever.
- Only the name changes (nothing else, not id etc.) This way all the "Friends lists" would be current
- Flag the character ID information with "Former Name:".
As a side effect, I can see the market for sold characters would become more popular, as people could pick a new name for the character when they bought it (and would presumably differentiate 2nd hand characters vs. 3rd, 4th etc. characters).
Reputation is already a non-issue for those wanting to dodge it, using disposable accounts, alts, bought and sold characters. Only for characters with a good name/rep is this a pain and there's no-one forcing you to take on an alias.
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.04 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: evilphoenix on 04/12/2008 23:03:38
I would be interested in a counter counter argument to my counter argument about griefers, corp thieves, scammers, and undesirable players just buying a new character to continue to grief, thieve, scam, and be undesirable. If someone has a desire to do the above, game mechanics already allow this and it's pretty darn easy.
AND that is if they want to spend money to buy a 'legit' looking character with a corp history, agent data, market data, and anything else you check. They COULD just create an alt on their current account to do the same thing.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.12.05 01:34:00 -
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Exactly, it doesn't stop *******s being *******s, it just prevents the rest of us from further developing our characters.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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geomatica
Infusion.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 23:03:00 -
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Having bought two chars with (frankly) bad names (This is the better of the two), I fully support this idea. It would make me much happier to be able to choose a new name for these chars, even if it was a once-over thing. At least they would have names.
As for the scammers and corp theives, it's been said many times. They are for the most part disposable alts, or chars who don't care about "e-rep" anyway, or relish the negative light.
I think it would bring more immersion into the game, especially with Ambulation coming. I'd hate walking around Jita seeing "1leetdudeLOL" over someone's head.
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Aurora Morgan
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Posted - 2008.12.07 11:24:00 -
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I think that changing people's names would be a good thing for immersion into the game, maybe allow a name change when you do a character transfer?
That reduces the scam usage to real serious scammers with a lot of money to burn, and allows people that have bought a character to not have to live with some really bad immersion destroying names.
Ps. I like my name.
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Katsuhiro Kusanagi
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Posted - 2008.12.07 11:46:00 -
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absolutely not. scammers are rife enough without this. Also it would kind of mess up things if you are hunting someone to kill...
People would just go 'Oshi, ive upset half the galaxy, time for a name change...'
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.12.07 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 07/12/2008 19:56:18
Originally by: Katsuhiro Kusanagi
absolutely not. scammers are rife enough without this. Also it would kind of mess up things if you are hunting someone to kill...
People would just go 'Oshi, ive upset half the galaxy, time for a name change...'
Would it matter? With your level of reading comprehension even TT could scam you, having representatives of IAC there vouching for him being a notorious scammer and you still parting with your goods on faith alone.
As for the people being hunted, those typically take great pride in being the scourge of EVE, those who doesn't just buy and sell themselves a new skin, your fears will get us nowhere.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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lord cyrez
Licentia Pro Totus
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Posted - 2008.12.07 20:39:00 -
[46]
oh boy i'd really love to change the name of an not-so-stealth-but-well-skilled alt 
might just introduce a "recent names" list just as the corporations are being kept in which one has been before.
anyway, fully supported.
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.07 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Katsuhiro Kusanagi
absolutely not. scammers are rife enough without this. Also it would kind of mess up things if you are hunting someone to kill...
People would just go 'Oshi, ive upset half the galaxy, time for a name change...'
Or they could just sell the account, and buy a new one to scam you with... I'm really tired of this logic.
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Onel Whitaker
Br4ins
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Posted - 2008.12.07 23:36:00 -
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There is no point in changing the name of you character, There will just be to many lose ends and crap and rabble rabble.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.12.08 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Onel Whitaker
There is no point in changing the name of you character, There will just be to many lose ends and crap and rabble rabble.
You have me convinced.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:27:00 -
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Change your character's name! Support this cause!
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Berious
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.08 17:42:00 -
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Everyone changes their name to "0100101101001010111101" or to start some letter in the middle of the alphabet to avoid being called primary.
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
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Posted - 2008.12.08 18:17:00 -
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On the character trade side:
If I buy a character, the old character simply does not exist anymore. In fact you should not even get to keep the old name at all. You don't buy a character for its history in the game. If you did, it would be a sort of scam in itself as you are not the same person. So when you buy a char, you should get to name it and create its portrait as if it was a new character.
So on this side, full support.
On the game side
This is indeed a bit trickier, I don't really want to change my name as the history connected to it would disappear pretty much. You can not allow this, even with a fee, without some players abusing the system. If a comity could review character renaming requests it would be a bit easier to weed out unlegitimate requests, but even then it would not be perfect.
Then again, personally I don't care. If someone I don't like suddenly changes his character's name, chances are I won't like him under his new name either.
So supported, but under the condition that more thought is put into the mechanics.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.12.08 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 08/12/2008 19:44:59
Originally by: Berious
Everyone changes their name to "0100101101001010111101" or to start some letter in the middle of the alphabet to avoid being called primary.
If that's the immersion you strive for playing EVE I pity you.
That being said I'm all for numbers being disallowed in names outright.
People would just call targets using other means than rambling numbers and you'll sit there looking like a scared little idiot for going so far as to cower behind a nonsense 'name'.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.12.09 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox
no
to easily exploitable to hide scammers, thieves and other nefarious sorts.
Why make their task of hiding even easier?
i htought they were using alts that are deleted after few days. :P
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.09 22:35:00 -
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Any CSMs for comment?
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.10 22:30:00 -
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Post to show your support!
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Rhaegor Stormborn
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 01:39:00 -
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Isaac Einstein
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Posted - 2008.12.11 17:55:00 -
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I support this proposal
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evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.12 23:33:00 -
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Please post support, or comment on the proposal.
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Kordel Trask
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Posted - 2008.12.13 00:05:00 -
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I'm all for this.
I believe us many of us just created a casual character when we started just to check things out.
After I had been in for a few months and started figuring out how Eve worked I was reluctant to create a new characters and lose those months of training.
If nothing else let it be a once in a lifetime. thing.
Keep the characters history and standings but change the name.
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