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Sicariidae Caldari Prophets Of a Damned Universe Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2008.11.30 16:02:00 - [61] Ravens in fleet battles don't shoot the primary unless it's a capital ship or unless the primary is within 50Km or so. What Ravens in fleet battles do is load up CN Paradise and make ECM ships go away. True Dat!!
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.11.30 16:15:00 - [62] You know what I do? I fly Caldari gunboats. Turns out, they're better than people think. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Marius Nervosu Caldari Black Straw	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:00:00 - [63] The point ? Best ships for....a...it was something before the nerf. Yes....mission's/rats. No point now. Missiles are best now when you are in a ceptor...but wait...no damage ?
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:17:00 - [64] Caldari are fine. Been flying Caldari for nearing 4 years now, and they're pretty near the best they've ever been. Yes, that is in PvP. (PVE they're still top of the tree too). They just require a different approach to other races - treat them like the specialised fleet elements that they are, and they are particularly awesome. Get a Caldari ship to do a single job, and you've probably got the best ship at it. Try and generalise them, and shoehorn them into the 'MWD, web, point, some damage and a bit of tank' generi****that you get from other races, and they're not very good. TL;DR: Caldari do not suck at PVP, in fact I'd go as far as saying they are some of the best ships available. -- 249km locking?
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:39:00 - [65] Originally by: KingDiomedes shoot at range?? it takes half an hour for a cruise missile to hit summat most bs can hit further than ravens now and do a hell of a lot more damge ie apoc and mega so again whats the point in caldari? i am doing fine, having said that i trained all the right skills. - DAMT - If you dont know, well, you dont know!
baltec1 R.U.S.T. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:45:00 - [66] I like caldari battleship. It lets me fly the nightmare
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council.	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:48:00 - [67] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Atm the point of caldari is to provide easy targets for other races. Too bad they don't tell this in race description, so new people contine to chose that "mighty capitalistic warrior race" and end up as cannon fodder, while providing others arguements like "caldari can't be that bad cause theres so many of them and so many can't be wrong". LOL good, they are created as fast as rabbits breed it seems could cut back on the population Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
starshipcommander Caldari Rhienland's Royal Guard and Industrial Center	Posted - 2008.11.30 20:10:00 - [68] Originally by: Abrazzar The point of Caldari is to make you cry, which obviously works perfectly fine. I call this superior game design. Caldari is basicly a race that u need to learn to use i mean others think thier races suck but to mean caldari is my favorite race. but hey this is kinda opinoins being said awesome pic
Captain Pompous	Posted - 2008.11.30 20:24:00 - [69] Originally by: KingDiomedes we have been nerfed into submission, the only decent ship we have is falcon other than that we suck at pvp have no dps cant fit point or web without losing our tank so seriously whast the point in caldari, when chosing a race caldari should come with a warning - sucks at everything apart from mission running so chose another race... discuss :) cry me a river you caldari joke
Mikhale Romanov Black Hats Delta	Posted - 2008.11.30 20:37:00 - [70] Originally by: KingDiomedes we have been nerfed into submission, the only decent ship we have is falcon other than that we suck at pvp have no dps cant fit point or web without losing our tank so seriously whast the point in caldari, when chosing a race caldari should come with a warning - sucks at everything apart from mission running so chose another race... discuss :) You are fail at caldari.. My blarpy still records kills. So does my torp Raven. ZOMG Communism!
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2008.11.30 22:32:00 - [71] Originally by: Kioko Dal Edited by: Kioko Dal on 30/11/2008 11:47:10 Originally by: Nikita Alterana Caldari: lets stick them in there for the lulz seriously though, you still have no reason to complain. So your missiles are slightly weaker. have you seen the minmatar recently? Try flying minmatar then complain about the caldari. I always wondered why I almost never see any Minmatars complaining. Then I realized that although we are rarely get the best of anything, we are very rarely get the worst of anything. You've apparently never read SHC :) -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2008.11.30 22:34:00 - [72] Originally by: James Lyrus Caldari are fine. Been flying Caldari for nearing 4 years now, and they're pretty near the best they've ever been. Yes, that is in PvP. (PVE they're still top of the tree too). They just require a different approach to other races - treat them like the specialised fleet elements that they are, and they are particularly awesome. Get a Caldari ship to do a single job, and you've probably got the best ship at it. Try and generalise them, and shoehorn them into the 'MWD, web, point, some damage and a bit of tank' generi****that you get from other races, and they're not very good. TL;DR: Caldari do not suck at PVP, in fact I'd go as far as saying they are some of the best ships available. Read this poast, this man knows what he's talking about. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.30 22:39:00 - [73] You people clearly just don't understand the incredibly PvP powerhouse that is Axiom Empire. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Baron Agamemnon Caldari Holy Grail Constructiion	Posted - 2008.11.30 22:44:00 - [74] Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane Originally by: James Lyrus Caldari are fine. Been flying Caldari for nearing 4 years now, and they're pretty near the best they've ever been. Yes, that is in PvP. (PVE they're still top of the tree too). They just require a different approach to other races - treat them like the specialised fleet elements that they are, and they are particularly awesome. Get a Caldari ship to do a single job, and you've probably got the best ship at it. Try and generalise them, and shoehorn them into the 'MWD, web, point, some damage and a bit of tank' generi****that you get from other races, and they're not very good. TL;DR: Caldari do not suck at PVP, in fact I'd go as far as saying they are some of the best ships available. Read this poast, this man knows what he's talking about. I agree. Caldari is very specialized, and do well at the things they do. The cruisers could need a bit of love tho, they are not that great imo.
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2008.11.30 22:46:00 - [75] Originally by: An Anarchyyt You people clearly just don't understand the incredibly PvP powerhouse that is Axiom Empire. If this guy is any indication, I might consider moving again. What I'm wondering is how long he will actually have that alliance tag. Talk about PR trainwreck. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
OffBeaT	Posted - 2008.12.01 02:01:00 - [76] i remember a time i was so confident in my raven i would take on 2 or more battleships + there frigs and this wasn't because i thought the raven was a better ship then others it was because i lived in my ship and i truly did. i only fly my race ships and none other so me and my raven got to know each other well.. i have been away for a bit so i gotta get back into things but i believe its not the ship but how well you know its setups and style of combat solo or fleet. the raven dose not run well so its a fighter but can be a very cunning ship as well. a lot of eve gamers are finicky about there Kilroy ships of the day then bail when times get tough in them but if you use the test server and train in your ship proper you will master it no matter what Nerf drops on your lap.. i learn too stand alone in a ship first then i try to learn how to use it with others.. i don't relay on other peoples options of setups because i learn my ship buy trial and fail.. i learn my own setups on the test servers or in the real eve doge and evade of life in eve.. its all in how you think of your ship! IMO..
BhallSpawn	Posted - 2008.12.01 02:22:00 - [77] Point of caldari? Cannon Fodder. Most popular race in the game and the weakest one in pvp by FAR.
Astro Glyde	Posted - 2008.12.01 02:32:00 - [78] What's the point of Caldari? To give the Minmatar something they can actually hit.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.12.01 02:49:00 - [79] Edited by: Stitcher on 01/12/2008 02:56:09 23:28:46 Combat * * [*]'thunderhead'(Megathron) strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 296.1 damage. 23:28:42 Combat * *** [**]'thunderhead'(Megathron) hits you, doing 50.4 damage. Those are, respectively, his best hit and an average* hit. Name and corp ticker have been edited out to preserve what few shreds of decency the pilot in question has left. I should point out, however, that he was genuinely trying to kill me. I was flying one of these, btw. It took that mega five minutes to drop me to 33% shields, at which point I casually docked up, despite the best efforts of his neutral friends to bump me off the station. If it hadn't been for the fact that I was well aware of his small army of corpmates waiting in the next system to pounce on me the moment I aggressed, I'd have happily melted him. I'm just using this to illustrate the point that there are some things that Caldari ships do very, very well indeed. Insane tanks and ECM are two of these things. Of course, we don't care about those things do we? noo, of course, Caldari ships are nothing but missiles. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.12.01 02:54:00 - [80] Originally by: Stitcher Of course, we don't care about those things do we? noo, of course, Caldari ships are nothing but missiles. IF YOUR FITTING WINDOW DOESN'T DISPLAY "LAUNCHER HARDPOINTS: 0" YOU'RE NOT A REAL CALDARI ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Agro Vader	Posted - 2008.12.01 03:10:00 - [81] The impression given at character creation is that Caldari are the "military" race, which is why the majority of noobs choose them. Then they train, run missions, finally join a corp and are told their BS sucks and is not welcome in corp pvp ops. Then they quit. Who wants to start over after 3 or 4 months of time based training?
Dasalt Istgut	Posted - 2008.12.01 03:20:00 - [82] Edited by: Dasalt Istgut on 01/12/2008 03:23:52 Originally by: Stitcher You know what I do? I fly Caldari gunboats. Turns out, they're better than people think. You're a lyer. Only gunboat you've flown is the rokh and with it, you're dead bottom or almost bottom on every killmail with it. Caldari gunboats are good to people who have never flown a gallente or amarr ship I guess. In general, caldari ships are good at tanking. Take that for what it is, but in reality it just means people won't primary you. Their ECM is nice, its the only nice thing they really have - probably why all the forum whiners want to nerf it so the race will be totally worthless.
Miss Xerox	Posted - 2008.12.01 03:25:00 - [83] Caldari strong points: ... ... ... ECM? /end list.
Jesslyn Daggererux Gallente SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2008.12.01 03:44:00 - [84] Originally by: Kioko Dal Edited by: Kioko Dal on 30/11/2008 11:47:10 Originally by: Nikita Alterana Caldari: lets stick them in there for the lulz seriously though, you still have no reason to complain. So your missiles are slightly weaker. have you seen the minmatar recently? Try flying minmatar then complain about the caldari. I always wondered why I almost never see any Minmatars complaining. Then I realized that although we are rarely get the best of anything, we are very rarely get the worst of anything. i think of gallente that way, actually. you dont hear alot of whines except latly the "OMG hybrid tracking" once in awhile. i think we really are the midroad on many issues...and if you promise not to tell the devs, have the best of some classes.
Bohoba Caldari HolyKnights	Posted - 2008.12.01 03:47:00 - [85] Originally by: Abrazzar The point of Caldari is to make you cry, which obviously works perfectly fine. I call this superior game design. I lol thanks ....................... 10.5 hours a day do you have what it takes ?
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy	Posted - 2008.12.01 04:18:00 - [86] this just in, the devs prefer minmatar Fallout thinks im cute! I think so anyway
Haakelen Gallente Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2008.12.01 04:19:00 - [87] Caldari have lots of points. Look on the front of the Raven, for example.
Ess Erbe Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:19:00 - [88] These threads suck so hard. Rokh Raven Falcon Blackbird Scorpion Rook Cerberus Eagle Nighthawk Vulture Harpy These are all excellent ships stop being useless ugh.
Tal Kjelthorne Kjelthorne Industries	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:27:00 - [89] Originally by: Karanth Amarr overcame. Caldari whine and cry like children. Amarr scare the crap out of me. That Vengeance of theirs is nigh indestructible by any other ship of it's class and I think most cruisers/BCs too. And let's not mention Jihad Swarm's Apocalypse suicide runs on Hulk Bots... To the OP, My wife's Hawk still gives me a hell of a run in my Ishkur and she's not as well trained as I am in AFs.
Artelmis	Posted - 2008.12.01 05:30:00 - [90] Originally by: James Lyrus Caldari are fine. Been flying Caldari for nearing 4 years now, and they're pretty near the best they've ever been. Yes, that is in PvP. (PVE they're still top of the tree too). They just require a different approach to other races - treat them like the specialised fleet elements that they are, and they are particularly awesome. Get a Caldari ship to do a single job, and you've probably got the best ship at it. Try and generalise them, and shoehorn them into the 'MWD, web, point, some damage and a bit of tank' generi****that you get from other races, and they're not very good. TL;DR: Caldari do not suck at PVP, in fact I'd go as far as saying they are some of the best ships available. been flyin caldari for close to a year. sure, missiles took a hit, but i havent noticed any real difference, could be cause i have the missile accuracy skills at 4 and 5. i've compared my navy apoc to my cnr and found that while lasers sound really cool when they fire, and you can hold a medium tank forever in an amarr BS, compared to the ravens cap-sheld-milk (i seriously need a name for this) style of tanking which can last forever vs medium dps but only a short while vs heavy.... the CNR performs better in missions than the faction-fit navy apoc and abaddon. thats pve. /me puts pvp hat on... caldari arent the greatest solo pvpers. i could see it in one or two different setups for a couple ships, but caldari are designed to work as a team. one webber guy, one painter guy, one scram guy, and a few pwnboats. the no-cap useage of missile launchers opens more cap for that one ewar module and still allows them to do damage. now. i love unloading triple-heatsink tachylon blasts from my geddon as much as the next guy, but caldari hold that little place in my heart for pvp cause, if properly used, a falcon pilot will make you want to just /facepalm. that said, a caracal, fitted properly, will bring most medium sized pilots to their knees. plus. what battleships does everyone want on a POS bust when the capitals are MIA? torp ravens. (go caldari) /me gets off soapbox and apologizes for his atrocious spelling

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