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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2008.12.02 14:14:00 -
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After the patch I have seen that my XFX 7600GTX 256MB is not really enough to hold the game with Extreme qualities in both options, so I would like to know graphicals cards who hold it.
Thx in advance.
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Banana Torres
Look Ma I did a Test
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Posted - 2008.12.02 14:21:00 -
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Twin GX2s handles it quite well.
A solo 8800GTX also had no problems.
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stubbles
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Posted - 2008.12.02 14:29:00 -
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I have a single 8800GTS 320MB, works great. Everything maxed with 2x AA and I'm getting 80-120fps.
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Cairn Metalhand
Swedish Aerospace Inc
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.02 14:56:00 -
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You need a hamster with a very big head that talks really fast with other hamsters.
What above posters said might also work...
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Aion Amarra
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.02 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Aion Amarra on 02/12/2008 15:18:31
 Originally by: Banana Torres
Twin GX2s handles it quite well.
A solo 8800GTX also had no problems.
Since SLI is only half-working with EVE (if at all), I doubt that using twin cards will give any real performance boost.
(Unless you seperately accelerate several screens (plug one screen into each card?) and run multiple clients on different screens, I guess.)
Edited for clarity.
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Rifter Drifter
Minmatar
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:14:00 -
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standard 8800 gts 512 will do the trick.. for a tiny raise in price.. 9800's will definately do it.. twice.. or, if your a maggot like me.. just grab a gx280 for kicks.
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Evolyze
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Evolyze on 02/12/2008 16:33:47
I use radeaon (sp) x1950xt or something and that fraps preium graphics in combat at its 60fps limit. Think fps is normally at 120 or more.
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.12.02 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTheo on 02/12/2008 16:44:39
Originally by: Cairn Metalhand
You need a hamster with a very big head that talks really fast with other hamsters.
What above posters said might also work...
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.02 17:08:00 -
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I have a single 8800GT. It's pegged at 60fps (Interval=1 on display settings) and never seems to drop below that.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.02 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Aion Amarra
Edited by: Aion Amarra on 02/12/2008 15:18:31
Originally by: Banana Torres
Twin GX2s handles it quite well.
A solo 8800GTX also had no problems.
Since SLI is only half-working with EVE (if at all), I doubt that using twin cards will give any real performance boost.
(Unless you seperately accelerate several screens (plug one screen into each card?) and run multiple clients on different screens, I guess.)
Edited for clarity.
Correct.
It was said at fanfest that there is no support in Eve at all for SLI, and at present the Trinity engine will only utilise one card, or one half of one 9800GX2 as far as I'm aware.
The fellow from nVidia who was there was asked about SLI support after demoing a machine running Trinity at 5120x1600 across 2 Dell 30 inch panels. He responded that apparently it's a relatively small patch in the grand scheme of things to introduce SLI support to Eve and it could be looked into if enough people wanted it.
I, for one, am hoping it materialises over the next few months as I'm running Quad SLI with 2x 9800GX2s.
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Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
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Posted - 2008.12.02 17:58:00 -
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I have a pair of 9600GT's, they work like a charm with 2 x 22" monitors for running 2 clients.
The PC is a Quad core thingy with Wista64 and 8 GB RAM.
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mechtech
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.12.02 18:14:00 -
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An ATI 4830 is the best deal, but an 8800gt/9800gt (same card rebranded) will do just fine even at super high res.
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.02 18:18:00 -
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I need a whole new computer or I need someone that knows what the hell they are doing, that I can trust, to look at it. I only get 10 fps 
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn
NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Juraka Furo
Caldari
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.12.02 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Juraka Furo on 02/12/2008 19:22:05
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
I need a whole new computer or I need someone that knows what the hell they are doing, that I can trust, to look at it. I only get 10 fps
Slade
Step 1 - Stop downloading so many naked women having sex on film
Step 2 - ???
Step 3 - PROFIT!!!
In all seriousness though, can you list your PC specs? Knowing your processor, graphics card, RAM, and Operating System should be good enough to help ^^
My old computer ran Eve at 45 fps (classic) with a single-core CPU, 1G RAM, and an on-board 5xxx series GPU, so finding a cheap way for you to run it shouldn't be too hard :D
Even a 7800 GPU should be able to run it absolutely fine, and a dual-core CPU is pretty cheap now. The RAM isn't exppensive either, 4 gigs should be fine.
If you want to overclock your GPU and CPU, you can look into doing that as well. Just make sure you have enough cooling/air ventilation (fans, heatsinks, water cooling if you're into that)
Edit: Short-hand word for naked women having sex on film is blocked.
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ZinderX500
Caldari
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.02 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: ZinderX500 on 02/12/2008 19:35:37
Edited by: ZinderX500 on 02/12/2008 19:31:25
ATI 4850 ftw
8x AA,16xAF,Max Adaptive AA with highest options in EVE - 70-130 FPS Outside the station.
My Intel E2220 fails though and i believe i have a bottleneck there. I'll change that soon.
My advice : Get either a 9800 GTX+ or a 4850. Both are great cards with almost same results. In some games one is better than the other one and in other games it's worse than the other one.
If you want something even cheaper, tell us  .
Oh and, don't make any fatal mistake and do SLI. If you really want more than a single graphics card, go Crossfire. It's MUCH better.
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.02 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Juraka Furo
Step 1 - Stop downloading so many naked women having sex on film
Step 2 - ???
Step 3 - PROFIT!!!
In all seriousness though, can you list your PC specs? Knowing your processor, graphics card, RAM, and Operating System should be good enough to help ^^
My old computer ran Eve at 45 fps (classic) with a single-core CPU, 1G RAM, and an on-board 5xxx series GPU, so finding a cheap way for you to run it shouldn't be too hard :D
Even a 7800 GPU should be able to run it absolutely fine, and a dual-core CPU is pretty cheap now. The RAM isn't exppensive either, 4 gigs should be fine.
If you want to overclock your GPU and CPU, you can look into doing that as well. Just make sure you have enough cooling/air ventilation (fans, heatsinks, water cooling if you're into that)
Edit: Short-hand word for naked women having sex on film is blocked.
LOL. No downloading of anything.
I will get back to you on the specs. It is a 3 year old Tosiba Satelite Laptop bought in 2005 to give you a reference point. IT has 80g, I upgraded to 2 gigs Ram about 8 months ago, everything else is the same as the manufacture provided in that day and time. Not sure if that helps.
They do not offer any updates for the graphics card or anything. They will not get anymore of my money for sure. But I used to be able to run two accounts before the expansion where the new graphics came in and after that my performance plumeted. The client will not even allow my computer to try and run the premium graphics so they are all shut off.
Oh yes, it runs hotter then hell even when I have it set up on a baking try with grill cover set over it so there is about 1 inch of space for air flow.
I will send you an EVE mail this evening with the other info.
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn
NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.12.02 19:53:00 -
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my BFG 8600GT something or other handle eve fine in trinity at a steady 50FPS will all brackets although fleet fight the brackets come off and go back to old style graphics for the extra big of lag
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Faye Valerii
Caldari
Exeunt Omnes
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Posted - 2008.12.02 20:14:00 -
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QR runs at a constant 60 fps on the updated engine, max everything except shadows which are on high instead of extreme, 1680x1050, 4xaa through the oblivion exe trick. Even when exiting the Caldari Navy station at M4 in Jita : )
[email protected], radeon 4870 1024mb
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Astro Glyde
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Posted - 2008.12.02 20:24:00 -
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Here are my rigs, both run EVE rather well;
ASUS Rampage Extreme Mobo
Intel QX9650 Quad Core @ 4Ghz
8GB DDR3 Ram
2x HD4870x2 w/2GB (QuadFire)
And...
P4 @ 3.2GHz
2GB Ram
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ZinderX500
Caldari
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.02 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: ZinderX500 on 02/12/2008 20:31:07
Originally by: Faye Valerii
QR runs at a constant 60 fps on the updated engine, max everything except shadows which are on high instead of extreme, 1680x1050, 4xaa through the oblivion exe trick. Even when exiting the Caldari Navy station at M4 in Jita : )
[email protected], radeon 4870 1024mb
Something there is wrong, mate. I'm running higher resolution than you with maxed aa,af,adaptive aa forced through Catalyst with MUCH MUCH worse CPU than yours and slightly less powerful GPU than yours and still getting more FPS.
Did you try running EVE on a separate hard drive than the one that the operating system uses ? Also, different hard drive for Windows Virtual Memory ?
These 2 along with Advanced Performance Drive Caching on your eve,windows,virtual memory drives should give you a good fps boost.
You will need a UPS though for the advanced performance caching, just to be 100% sure you won't ever get a power outtage that it might result in files corruption. (yes, advanced performance caching might do that if power fails)
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Dasfry
Caldari
Demio's Corporation
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.02 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Torp
After the patch I have seen that my XFX 7600GTX 256MB is not really enough to hold the game with Extreme qualities in both options, so I would like to know graphicals cards who hold it.
Thx in advance.
Your CPU, & CPU cashe have a big effect on the game.
Especially the UI.
What is your CPU?
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Zurtur
Minmatar
the undivided
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Posted - 2008.12.02 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Zurtur on 02/12/2008 21:31:38
Originally by: Dasfry
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
After the patch I have seen that my XFX 7600GTX 256MB is not really enough to hold the game with Extreme qualities in both options, so I would like to know graphicals cards who hold it.
Thx in advance.
Your CPU, & CPU cashe have a big effect on the game.
Especially the UI.
What is your CPU?
In premium client, gfx card makes much more difference then the CPU. Just about everything is rendered through shaders. On classic client, CPU is the thing that renders the most stuff.
As long as its a Prescot P4 or anything better you are OK on the CPU. Altho, dual core is much nicer, it wont provide as much of a boost to the FPS as a new GFX will, but it will help. Also, CPU cache has just about no impact on gaming at all.
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Thenoran
Caldari
Hegemony Enterprises
E L I T E Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.02 21:33:00 -
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My 8600 GTS XXX 730m runs EVE Premium just fine, it only lags a bit when there are a LOT of those clouds/dust planes that show around deadspace from time to time. (Bountiful Banidine for example)
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.12.03 23:00:00 -
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I would not know
my chosen race sucks so bad I don't dare log in
and until missile caldari are actually somewhat useful in pvp I won't be playing.
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Karille
Gallente
Cold Templars
Templar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.12.03 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
I would not know
my chosen race sucks so bad I don't dare log in
and until missile caldari are actually somewhat useful in pvp I won't be playing.
Maybe if you logged in you could refit your ship and see it's not that bad.
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2008.12.05 00:55:00 -
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oh but it is that bad
when you think of pvp, I would wager most pilots would not think of using caldari missile boats as a way to kill the enemy the best.
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ingenting
20th Legion
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.05 01:46:00 -
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my Asus 4850 TOP does 150+ on 1280x1024
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Ess Erbe
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 01:49:00 -
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Scrubs, my GF 6800 trucks along nicely  .
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Max Quirk
Caldari
Clan Mythos
OLD IRONSIDES
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Posted - 2008.12.05 02:09:00 -
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Hmm... I only get ~15 fps in clouds...
Specs:
2.6 Ghz CPU, 6M L2 cache
512MB GeForce 9600M GT
4GB RAM
Vista Ultimate 64
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.12.05 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
oh but it is that bad
when you think of pvp, I would wager most pilots would not think of using caldari missile boats as a way to kill the enemy the best.
ok fine, just buy a damn alt if you can find any friends and have him fly a hyena.
bingo, you have one of the highest dps weapons in the game.
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Dechmeister
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Posted - 2008.12.05 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: Dechmeister on 05/12/2008 04:56:53
E8400 @ 3.6GHz
8GB RAM
8800GTS 512 OC
1920x1200 everything maxed except running High shadows instead of Extreme (HDR+Bloom+High shadows > Extreme Shadows alone, Extreme Shadows+HDR+Bloom is a MASSIVE hit in FPS for no discerning changes)
I get 140FPS outside, 250FPS in station.
But I usually run 2x 1680x1050 without HDR+Bloom because I run 2 clients, I still get 85FPS with both outside, but for some very odd reason I get 30FPS when both are in station... luckily, I only remain in station to chage modules & talk to agents... but still strange from 250FPS to 2x 30FPS... meh.
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Cyb3r Thr3at
Gallente
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.05 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Cyb3r Thr3at on 05/12/2008 05:40:23
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
I need a whole new computer or I need someone that knows what the hell they are doing, that I can trust, to look at it. I only get 10 fps
Slade
I just built a new PC just for EVE, & since QR, I only get 7-9 FPS doing missions, PVP is better for some reason.
My Rig: AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 5200+ 2.7GHz - Asus M3N78 PRO Mobo - Asus 8600GT OC - OCZ 800 x4G PC2-6400 Platinum - OCZ Game Xstream 600w SLI PS - Antec Three Hundred Gaming Tower - Samsung 22" Multi Media HD Monitor
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Dechmeister
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cyb3r Thr3at
Edited by: Cyb3r Thr3at on 05/12/2008 05:40:23
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
I need a whole new computer or I need someone that knows what the hell they are doing, that I can trust, to look at it. I only get 10 fps
Slade
I just built a new PC just for EVE, & since QR, I only get 7-9 FPS doing missions, PVP is better for some reason.
My Rig: AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 5200+ 2.7GHz - Asus M3N78 PRO Mobo - Asus 8600GT OC - OCZ 800 x4G PC2-6400 Platinum - OCZ Game Xstream 600w SLI PS - Antec Three Hundred Gaming Tower - Samsung 22" Multi Media HD Monitor
Ish... maybe new in terms of "never used parts", but that's anything but new in terms of technology. I'm sure your budget had something to do with that, so hard to get around this one.
Basically, that CPU paired with that godly slow video card & a native resolution of 1680x1050 (unless you play at non-native rez), it's totally normal you're getting that FPS with premium graphics.
Look up the benchmarks on it, it can barely play games that are 2-3 years old @ 1280x1024 at more than 20 FPS, so forget higher res & premium graphics.
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Max Quirk
Caldari
Clan Mythos
OLD IRONSIDES
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Max Quirk on 05/12/2008 16:03:39
What about my 9600m GT? I regularly get high fps if I have bloom set to none, with ~25-30 in clouds.
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ZinderX500
Caldari
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Max Quirk
Edited by: Max Quirk on 05/12/2008 16:03:39
What about my 9600m GT? I regularly get high fps if I have bloom set to none, with ~25-30 in clouds.
It's still a laptop. Slowpoke hard drives.
Slowpoke :
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Max Quirk
Caldari
Clan Mythos
OLD IRONSIDES
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: ZinderX500
Originally by: Max Quirk
Edited by: Max Quirk on 05/12/2008 16:03:39
What about my 9600m GT? I regularly get high fps if I have bloom set to none, with ~25-30 in clouds.
It's still a laptop. Slowpoke hard drives.
Slowpoke :
Really? That's the reason? Awesome! I can fix that!
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ZinderX500
Caldari
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.05 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Max Quirk
Originally by: ZinderX500
Originally by: Max Quirk
Edited by: Max Quirk on 05/12/2008 16:03:39
What about my 9600m GT? I regularly get high fps if I have bloom set to none, with ~25-30 in clouds.
It's still a laptop. Slowpoke hard drives.
Slowpoke :
Really? That's the reason? Awesome! I can fix that!
Well...yeah. Laptops suffer from their hard drives' speed. If you can change it with a faster one you will notice that it's much faster overall.
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CCP Atlas
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Posted - 2008.12.05 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Torp
After the patch I have seen that my XFX 7600GTX 256MB is not really enough to hold the game with Extreme qualities in both options, so I would like to know graphicals cards who hold it.
Thx in advance.
I would definitely not recommend running Eve with shadows set to 'Extreme'. It's a massive performance hit with limited visual gain. You will probably not even notice a difference in the shadows between 'Extreme' and 'High'.
It's basically something you might want to consider using if you're taking pretty close-up screenshots of ships, but when running the game normally it's not really something you'll want to do.
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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2008.12.10 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atlas
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
After the patch I have seen that my XFX 7600GTX 256MB is not really enough to hold the game with Extreme qualities in both options, so I would like to know graphicals cards who hold it.
Thx in advance.
I would definitely not recommend running Eve with shadows set to 'Extreme'. It's a massive performance hit with limited visual gain. You will probably not even notice a difference in the shadows between 'Extreme' and 'High'.
It's basically something you might want to consider using if you're taking pretty close-up screenshots of ships, but when running the game normally it's not really something you'll want to do.
Megathron, Khronos, Megathron Navy Issue, NPC Rats of same hull... capital ships (i have only seen a Thanatos of a corp mate but well)...
Yes, it's a matter of importance, either playing a mission in my ugly Raven against Serpentis / Gallente as making screenshots for the desktop :)
Even not playing more games than this (maybe Diablo 2 and CS:Source) i have thought that buy a graphical card is an invesment for the future. If I buy one, i won't buy one that with another graphical improvement can't play at maximum quality. If you stablish a "Extreme" quality is for enjoy it. Even heading out to the Need For Speed, it's always good to have a nice equipment. However you are part of the development team so can say if it's worth to pay almost 600Ç for a monster like this:
http://www.pricoinsa.es/DetalleProducto.aspx?prod=04060081&fam=0406
Is this game based in DirectX or OpenGL? I hate ATI but if it's based in DirectX...
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Captain Politics
JotunHeim Hird
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.10 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Torp
Is this game based in DirectX or OpenGL? I hate ATI but if it's based in DirectX...
Directx 9.0
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MidnightMartyr
Gallente
Chowabunga Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.10 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: stubbles
I have a single 8800GTS 320MB, works great. Everything maxed with 2x AA and I'm getting 80-120fps.
The fact that your GPU memory is not a power of 2 scares me... 
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Max Hardcase
Art of War
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.10 18:34:00 -
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^^
Thats so passT these days.
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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2008.12.11 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 10/12/2008 18:38:48
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 10/12/2008 18:37:52
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
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Is this game based in DirectX or OpenGL? I hate ATI but if it's based in DirectX...
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Directx 9.0
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Thats so passT these days. The real question is what gfx company bribed which dev company for extra performance. Thats Nvidia in EVE's case, not that it really matters. Another prime example is Assassins Creed and the nixxing of Dx10.1 support ( which Nvidia doesnt have). EVE is fairly stable though. No fancy rendering pathways to optimise for ati/nvidia hardware, mainly texture output which limits performance.
That Nvidia bribe a company by a game in DirectX is counterproductive:
- At least two years ago, Nvidia was better in OpenGL and DirectX with ATI. I do not know if that will have changed. That's sure.
- Doesn't have a real utility that Nvidia is better if when you install it on Linux you go slow because it uses DirectX. I am getting info for uninstall Ubuntu for that reason ...
- As you have said, if Nvidia works better, Nvidia will be the video card.
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 17:38:00 -
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9800gx2 with two clients on two monitors = 105 FPS each.
/me kisses his dualhead2go
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Saberon
Gallente
C3 Tech
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Posted - 2008.12.11 17:48:00 -
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MY VDA is not particularly powerful, it's an XFX GF8600GTS with 512MB. But my game maintains 100+ FPS on my 24" WS monitor (1920x1200) - single account
I usually run 3-4 accounts, in windowed mode, and I get from 60-80 FPS on each, which is still acceptable - as long as it's 60+ to match video refresh.
The other specs on my computer are pretty good, which might be a reason for the performance. I run Premium, btw.
Q9450 QuadCore, 2.66GHz, 1333 FSB
4GB RAM
Vista
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 19:05:00 -
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saberon ? do you have one or two screens (or more)?
because of the shi!e vista dual screen is no longer possible with horizontal span and the new nvidia drivers werent doing it for me (sli mode connecting two dvi to one output) so i bite the bullet and shelled out hard cash for the matrox dualhead thing. if you tell me now there is another way to get multiple clients with decent FPS working on two screens at the same time i might have to shoot myself (not really:P)
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Aion Amarra
Minmatar
New Eden Research Organisation
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.11 19:20:00 -
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Game runs very nicely for me at 2560x1600, shadows to normal (I don't find the difference between normal and high visible enough under most conditions to warrant the performance loss), HDR off. Framerate only drops below 60 in fleet conditions, or in mission/complex areas that have those damned clouds around. And it's running on a 8800GTS (the original 640MB model), 4 gigs of cheap OCZ RAM and a E6700 dualcore.
Mind, this is with two clients running, windowed, both at native resolution and moved to 'fullscreen' by EVEMon. Works just fine.
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Max Hardcase
Art of War
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 20:09:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
Originally by: Max Hardcase
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 10/12/2008 18:38:48
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 10/12/2008 18:37:52
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
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Is this game based in DirectX or OpenGL? I hate ATI but if it's based in DirectX...
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Directx 9.0
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Thats so passT these days. The real question is what gfx company bribed which dev company for extra performance. Thats Nvidia in EVE's case, not that it really matters. Another prime example is Assassins Creed and the nixxing of Dx10.1 support ( which Nvidia doesnt have). EVE is fairly stable though. No fancy rendering pathways to optimise for ati/nvidia hardware, mainly texture output which limits performance.
That Nvidia bribe a company by a game in DirectX is counterproductive:
- At least two years ago, Nvidia was better in OpenGL and DirectX with ATI. I do not know if that will have changed. That's sure.
- Doesn't have a real utility that Nvidia is better if when you install it on Linux you go slow because it uses DirectX. I am getting info for uninstall Ubuntu for that reason ...
- As you have said, if Nvidia works better, Nvidia will be the video card.
OpenGL is dead for gaming basically, only reason to really support is crossplatform compatibility.
DX is where its at these days. MS has the benefit that its the only one updating DX specs, openGL lags a bit due to its wider member base.
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:18:00 -
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Most of the performance hit will be due to turrets being rendered all the time. The new patch should help this, as it doesn't render turrets unless you specifically want it to.
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Saberon
Gallente
C3 Tech
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:30:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Saberon on 11/12/2008 21:30:07
Originally by: Mira O'karr
saberon ? do you have one or two screens (or more)?
because of the shi!e vista dual screen is no longer possible with horizontal span and the new nvidia drivers werent doing it for me (sli mode connecting two dvi to one output) so i bite the bullet and shelled out hard cash for the matrox dualhead thing. if you tell me now there is another way to get multiple clients with decent FPS working on two screens at the same time i might have to shoot myself (not really:P)
Mira, I was using a 2nd screen till a few weeks ago (a 21" CRT) in the second DVI port, with no issues at all, with the nVidia drivers on Vista. (Using a small DVI-VGA adapter)
Now, it's still in my old office, I have been moving - I am aware that nvidia drivers were recently updated, so haven't tried on those yet.
The 2nd screen was only running 1600x1200 though, but no problems at all.
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Darkeen
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:54:00 -
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Hell,
Dell INspiron 14210 laptop with nvidia 8600G and I'm dancing with Glee if I get 10fps...
Got around 3.3 fps last night, and yes everything is set correctly, even with the new setups... (Now you know why I dont Pvp!)
Aparently the Inspiron has a known issue with the Video card and CPU's (they are close together to be near the neatsink, where the CPU's (dual core) tend to overheat as they have put Desktop CPU's in a laptop device...
And at random times I get the laptop simply shutting down due to heat... Harddrives churns and Pow! everythings dead...
So I think those that ***** about a low 60fps can bite me.....
Anyone have specs for a decent laptop that has an Nvidia video card?
I'd like to look at upgrading sometime..... I bought this laptop specifically to play Eve, which I can do, albeit rather sporadically and slowly...
Regards,
Jason Brisbane
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Mes Ren
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:02:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Mes Ren on 12/12/2008 01:05:24
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
Originally by: Max Hardcase
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 10/12/2008 18:38:48
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 10/12/2008 18:37:52
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
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Is this game based in DirectX or OpenGL? I hate ATI but if it's based in DirectX...
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Directx 9.0
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Thats so passT these days. The real question is what gfx company bribed which dev company for extra performance. Thats Nvidia in EVE's case, not that it really matters. Another prime example is Assassins Creed and the nixxing of Dx10.1 support ( which Nvidia doesnt have). EVE is fairly stable though. No fancy rendering pathways to optimise for ati/nvidia hardware, mainly texture output which limits performance.
That Nvidia bribe a company by a game in DirectX is counterproductive:
- At least two years ago, Nvidia was better in OpenGL and DirectX with ATI. I do not know if that will have changed. That's sure.
- Doesn't have a real utility that Nvidia is better if when you install it on Linux you go slow because it uses DirectX. I am getting info for uninstall Ubuntu for that reason ...
- As you have said, if Nvidia works better, Nvidia will be the video card.
I'm am getting an average of 60fps.
AMD 64 X2 4600+
6 GB RAM
NVidia 7950 GT 512MB
Ubuntu 8.10 (Linux)
Wine 1.1.10
Premium Graphics 1680x1050 Native Resolution
The official client blows chunks, but running under wine is silky smooth.
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:34:00 -
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:38:00 -
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I get 80 fps out of station on my laptop :P
8800GTS 512mb, 4GB ram, Dual 2.8 Cpu, 5200rpm hardrive (need to upgrade this)
However running shadows in extreme is silly, you don't need 4000x4000 rez. I run at X2AA in 1900x1200. normal shadows, and normal HDR using nhancer to make AA work.
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EliteSlave
Minmatar
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.12.12 02:22:00 -
[55]
180fps on average...
Manufacturer:
System manufacturer
Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM)4 QUAD CPU Q9650 @ 3.98GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.98GHz
Memory:
8046MB RAM
Hard Drive:
1310 GB Total
Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 Gx2
Monitor:
Sony KDL-46S4100
Sound Card:
Speakers (Audio Advantage SRM Device)
Speakers/Headphones:
Turtle Beach Ak-r8
Keyboard:
Logitech G-15 Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G7 Mouse
Mouse Surface:
Operating System:
Windows VistaÖ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
Motherboard: Asus Striker Extreme
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Darkeen
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.12 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Darkeen on 12/12/2008 04:35:18
Edited by: Darkeen on 12/12/2008 04:34:19
Edited by: Darkeen on 12/12/2008 04:33:12
I'm thinking it might be the hard drive....
Dell Inspiron 1420
Video: Nvidia 8400G - 128mg RAM I believe, running at 1200x800 (widescreen laptop)
RAM: 2Gb
Dual Core 1.6Ghz Intel
Vista Home Basic
EVE SETTINGS
Cache: Low
Sound (Audio and Voice): off
Settings: All Off (except widescreen) No turrets, missiles, effects, Sun occlusion, nothing.
Camera Shake off
ADSL Speed: 512/128K - going toupgrade to ADSL2+ 20Mbps in New year so I'm hoping this may affect the speed somewhat (especially jumpgates, exiting/entering stations/ etc.)
Thats all I can remember ATM but I've gone through every setting and guie for increasing the speed and cant see what to do to make it faster. It DOES go faster with No brackets and no overview but then I cant see anything and cant select anything and cant atttack, or mine or do anything so whats the point...... Currently running with very little brackets (ships and containers only) and overview set similarly but with gates and stations added...
Its as good as its gotten... I was going to write why I keep playing but I dont really know. Its pretty bad.... unplayable ALMOST! Mining is barely ok though (for the first 15 minutes, then I have to go back to station reboot PC and start again to maintain the same speeds.... Missioning is the same, multiple jumps through gates slows it down more.....
I'm thinking that it s a memory and hard drive speed (access and reading/writing to memory) issue... That means getting a new laptop though and with a young family and trygi for second child its not gonna happen for a LONG time... Have to (literaly) save my pennies....
PS: 30 fps in station - WOW, that ship spinning looks really cool for a very short time....
Regards,
Jason Brisbane
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Mes Ren
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 06:39:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Darkeen
Edited by: Darkeen on 12/12/2008 04:35:18
Edited by: Darkeen on 12/12/2008 04:34:19
Edited by: Darkeen on 12/12/2008 04:33:12
I'm thinking it might be the hard drive....
Dell Inspiron 1420
Video: Nvidia 8400G - 128mg RAM I believe, running at 1200x800 (widescreen laptop)
RAM: 2Gb
Dual Core 1.6Ghz Intel
Vista Home Basic
EVE SETTINGS
Cache: Low
Sound (Audio and Voice): off
Settings: All Off (except widescreen) No turrets, missiles, effects, Sun occlusion, nothing.
Camera Shake off
ADSL Speed: 512/128K - going toupgrade to ADSL2+ 20Mbps in New year so I'm hoping this may affect the speed somewhat (especially jumpgates, exiting/entering stations/ etc.)
Thats all I can remember ATM but I've gone through every setting and guie for increasing the speed and cant see what to do to make it faster. It DOES go faster with No brackets and no overview but then I cant see anything and cant select anything and cant atttack, or mine or do anything so whats the point...... Currently running with very little brackets (ships and containers only) and overview set similarly but with gates and stations added...
Its as good as its gotten... I was going to write why I keep playing but I dont really know. Its pretty bad.... unplayable ALMOST! Mining is barely ok though (for the first 15 minutes, then I have to go back to station reboot PC and start again to maintain the same speeds.... Missioning is the same, multiple jumps through gates slows it down more.....
I'm thinking that it s a memory and hard drive speed (access and reading/writing to memory) issue... That means getting a new laptop though and with a young family and trygi for second child its not gonna happen for a LONG time... Have to (literaly) save my pennies....
PS: 30 fps in station - WOW, that ship spinning looks really cool for a very short time....
When was the last time you did a clean install of windows? Sounds like Vista (the resource hog) has some sort of memory leak going. I'm guessing you upgraded from win xp to vista? I'd recommend doing a clean install of Windows.
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Sic Volo
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Posted - 2008.12.12 07:13:00 -
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Edited by: Sic Volo on 12/12/2008 07:14:36
Before QR my 2.7ghz core duo with 2gb RAM and GTS 512 was smooth running 2 windowed clients on maxed graphics. With QR I experience dramatic change in performance even on minimal settings including freezes, lag, crashes, etc. When I stop the second client it goes back to normal. I tried to run both in fullscreen mode, without efect. Any advice?
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Aero Zolic
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.12 07:18:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Aero Zolic on 12/12/2008 07:18:09
Originally by: Dechmeister
Edited by: Dechmeister on 05/12/2008 04:56:53
E8400 @ 3.6GHz
8GB RAM
8800GTS 512 OC
1920x1200 everything maxed except running High shadows instead of Extreme (HDR+Bloom+High shadows > Extreme Shadows alone, Extreme Shadows+HDR+Bloom is a MASSIVE hit in FPS for no discerning changes)
I get 140FPS outside, 250FPS in station.
But I usually run 2x 1680x1050 without HDR+Bloom because I run 2 clients, I still get 85FPS with both outside, but for some very odd reason I get 30FPS when both are in station... luckily, I only remain in station to chage modules & talk to agents... but still strange from 250FPS to 2x 30FPS... meh.
Make sure you have chosen right graphics cards for both clients (Display Adapter settings). Also turn Cache off. Also try changing Present Interval setting.
Also having sound turned on in both clients might be problematic.
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Faye Valerii
Caldari
Exeunt Omnes
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Posted - 2008.12.12 09:08:00 -
[60]
Originally by: ZinderX500
Edited by: ZinderX500 on 02/12/2008 20:31:07
Originally by: Faye Valerii
QR runs at a constant 60 fps on the updated engine, max everything except shadows which are on high instead of extreme, 1680x1050, 4xaa through the oblivion exe trick. Even when exiting the Caldari Navy station at M4 in Jita : )
[email protected], radeon 4870 1024mb
Something there is wrong, mate. I'm running higher resolution than you with maxed aa,af,adaptive aa forced through Catalyst with MUCH MUCH worse CPU than yours and slightly less powerful GPU than yours and still getting more FPS.
Did you try running EVE on a separate hard drive than the one that the operating system uses ? Also, different hard drive for Windows Virtual Memory ?
These 2 along with Advanced Performance Drive Caching on your eve,windows,virtual memory drives should give you a good fps boost.
You will need a UPS though for the advanced performance caching, just to be 100% sure you won't ever get a power outtage that it might result in files corruption. (yes, advanced performance caching might do that if power fails)
Thanks for your concern but obviously I'm running with vsync on so my fps is capped at 60 :) Can't stand to play with tearing. Without vsync it goes way, way higher.
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2008.12.12 10:21:00 -
[61]
I have 2x 8800GTX 768MB.
I've always ran Eve at 1680x1050 with all the eye candy turned up to max and it's never missed a beat.
You can probably pick up these cards relatively cheaply, although you might want a decent processor to drive them - I have a Core 2 Quad clocked at 3GHz.
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Neddy Fox
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.12 10:23:00 -
[62]
6800GT, 256 Mb, running in windowed mode (1400x1024) and went from 60 FPS to over 80.
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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2008.12.13 18:33:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Phoenix Torp on 13/12/2008 18:36:17
Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
What resolution are you trying to use? You haven't mentioned it at all.
I don't know why but the Max Resolution I have available is 1280 x 1024. I suppose it changes when you change the video card but...
Thinking that will buy the GTX 280 in dollars by Ebay and won't have problems. I use Ç...
The other problem will be the power supply. Only the video card needs 550W at least and currently the power supply that i have FOR ALL THE COMPUTER is 450W. Then the CPU (AMD Athlon 64 3500+)...
Seeing that it's hard to put the "improvement" into the computer 'cause is not only a component 
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.13 19:09:00 -
[64]
I just built a new rig.
Intel Nehalem 920 (Core i7), 6GB DDR3, 2 g260/216 in SLI. Eve is very very sexy on this compared to my old comp. Everything on extreme. Butter smooth even in situations with lots and lots of ships around.
+1 for getting SLI/Xfire support into the Eve client. I do take advantage of it in other games, but if it's a relatively small patch, there's no reason not to have it in Eve.
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