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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:34:00 -
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Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:34:00 -
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Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
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Mursilis
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:40:00 -
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Sounds like PR BS to me. 
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Mursilis
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:40:00 -
[4]
Sounds like PR BS to me. 
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: N'Fran D'Larn
Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
I am sorry but to be quite honest this is unacceptable. You all come here, create a ruckus, encourage us to stand by you in regards to a variety of things and you want to pull a Ragnar by saying, "No comment - No one speak under penalty of {insert one here}."
It just doesn't wash. It smells of cover up and I will honestly dig and dig and dig and dig till I get the truth. Of course until then I will speculate, out loud and in public, regarding the perfidy of the Corporate Chain that doesn't hold itself publicly accountable after bringing the issue to the public.
Until otherwise indicated I have to assume, and promote, the idea that a senior manager in EV got caught. Especially after having Equilibre (sp?) so slandered.
What happened to all the director's giving permission to the GM's to "name the shame". And you want to pull this little cover up....
I repeat, unacceptable.
I challenge Everlasting Vendetta to be forthright or be forever named COWARDS and LIARS. You wanted someone to have the guts to admit a crime. Now it is time for you to have the guts to say what happened.
Or be known as craven for all time. Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: N'Fran D'Larn
Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
I am sorry but to be quite honest this is unacceptable. You all come here, create a ruckus, encourage us to stand by you in regards to a variety of things and you want to pull a Ragnar by saying, "No comment - No one speak under penalty of {insert one here}."
It just doesn't wash. It smells of cover up and I will honestly dig and dig and dig and dig till I get the truth. Of course until then I will speculate, out loud and in public, regarding the perfidy of the Corporate Chain that doesn't hold itself publicly accountable after bringing the issue to the public.
Until otherwise indicated I have to assume, and promote, the idea that a senior manager in EV got caught. Especially after having Equilibre (sp?) so slandered.
What happened to all the director's giving permission to the GM's to "name the shame". And you want to pull this little cover up....
I repeat, unacceptable.
I challenge Everlasting Vendetta to be forthright or be forever named COWARDS and LIARS. You wanted someone to have the guts to admit a crime. Now it is time for you to have the guts to say what happened.
Or be known as craven for all time. Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: N'Fran D'Larn
Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
I am sorry but to be quite honest this is unacceptable. You all come here, create a ruckus, encourage us to stand by you in regards to a variety of things and you want to pull a Ragnar by saying, "No comment - No one speak under penalty of {insert one here}."
It just doesn't wash. It smells of cover up and I will honestly dig and dig and dig and dig till I get the truth. Of course until then I will speculate, out loud and in public, regarding the perfidy of the Corporate Chain that doesn't hold itself publicly accountable after bringing the issue to the public.
Until otherwise indicated I have to assume, and promote, the idea that a senior manager in EV got caught. Especially after having Equilibre (sp?) so slandered.
What happened to all the director's giving permission to the GM's to "name the shame". And you want to pull this little cover up....
I repeat, unacceptable.
I challenge Everlasting Vendetta to be forthright or be forever named COWARDS and LIARS. You wanted someone to have the guts to admit a crime. Now it is time for you to have the guts to say what happened.
Or be known as craven for all time.
incase you don't wanna read everything shar said ill say it simple and sweet...
EV just got PWNED! 
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.14 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: N'Fran D'Larn
Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
I am sorry but to be quite honest this is unacceptable. You all come here, create a ruckus, encourage us to stand by you in regards to a variety of things and you want to pull a Ragnar by saying, "No comment - No one speak under penalty of {insert one here}."
It just doesn't wash. It smells of cover up and I will honestly dig and dig and dig and dig till I get the truth. Of course until then I will speculate, out loud and in public, regarding the perfidy of the Corporate Chain that doesn't hold itself publicly accountable after bringing the issue to the public.
Until otherwise indicated I have to assume, and promote, the idea that a senior manager in EV got caught. Especially after having Equilibre (sp?) so slandered.
What happened to all the director's giving permission to the GM's to "name the shame". And you want to pull this little cover up....
I repeat, unacceptable.
I challenge Everlasting Vendetta to be forthright or be forever named COWARDS and LIARS. You wanted someone to have the guts to admit a crime. Now it is time for you to have the guts to say what happened.
Or be known as craven for all time.
incase you don't wanna read everything shar said ill say it simple and sweet...
EV just got PWNED! 
www.dark-cartel.com |

Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:05:00 -
[9]
Speak english pirate!
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Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:05:00 -
[10]
Speak english pirate!
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: N'Fran D'Larn
Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
I am sorry but to be quite honest this is unacceptable. You all come here, create a ruckus, encourage us to stand by you in regards to a variety of things and you want to pull a Ragnar by saying, "No comment - No one speak under penalty of {insert one here}."
It just doesn't wash. It smells of cover up and I will honestly dig and dig and dig and dig till I get the truth. Of course until then I will speculate, out loud and in public, regarding the perfidy of the Corporate Chain that doesn't hold itself publicly accountable after bringing the issue to the public.
Until otherwise indicated I have to assume, and promote, the idea that a senior manager in EV got caught. Especially after having Equilibre (sp?) so slandered.
What happened to all the director's giving permission to the GM's to "name the shame". And you want to pull this little cover up....
I repeat, unacceptable.
I challenge Everlasting Vendetta to be forthright or be forever named COWARDS and LIARS. You wanted someone to have the guts to admit a crime. Now it is time for you to have the guts to say what happened.
Or be known as craven for all time.
I think what they fell to do about their corperate policy is their own business, if they do not want to name the thieves, that should be their business. Have you ever been in a classroom where someone took something, and the teacher offered no punishment, and not to say who did it if the item were returned? Who is to say that this did not happen, they solved their issue, and got their bps back and in the end that is what matters.
The thief got beaten and so that should be satisfaction enough, however i do feel that if no one from Equilibra was involved in any way, it would be good of them to say so for all their reputation. ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Leno
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: N'Fran D'Larn
Everlasting Vendetta is pleased to announced that our 4 original BS Bp's have come back into our hands. We consider this matter closed and as a corporate policy we are not going to speak about the matter from this point forward.
I am formally instructing every member of Everlasting Vendetta not to post on the EVE online forums in regards to this matter. Period.
I am sorry but to be quite honest this is unacceptable. You all come here, create a ruckus, encourage us to stand by you in regards to a variety of things and you want to pull a Ragnar by saying, "No comment - No one speak under penalty of {insert one here}."
It just doesn't wash. It smells of cover up and I will honestly dig and dig and dig and dig till I get the truth. Of course until then I will speculate, out loud and in public, regarding the perfidy of the Corporate Chain that doesn't hold itself publicly accountable after bringing the issue to the public.
Until otherwise indicated I have to assume, and promote, the idea that a senior manager in EV got caught. Especially after having Equilibre (sp?) so slandered.
What happened to all the director's giving permission to the GM's to "name the shame". And you want to pull this little cover up....
I repeat, unacceptable.
I challenge Everlasting Vendetta to be forthright or be forever named COWARDS and LIARS. You wanted someone to have the guts to admit a crime. Now it is time for you to have the guts to say what happened.
Or be known as craven for all time.
I think what they fell to do about their corperate policy is their own business, if they do not want to name the thieves, that should be their business. Have you ever been in a classroom where someone took something, and the teacher offered no punishment, and not to say who did it if the item were returned? Who is to say that this did not happen, they solved their issue, and got their bps back and in the end that is what matters.
The thief got beaten and so that should be satisfaction enough, however i do feel that if no one from Equilibra was involved in any way, it would be good of them to say so for all their reputation. ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Shelta
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:25:00 -
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Well let the flame fest begin. Though if you bother to read my post before flaming I would like you to consider this. If the GM's gave the BPO's back, perhaps there was a reason that we, and the members of EV don't know about. I highly doubt that the GM's would say that someones account had been hacked, or that there was a bugg that caused this whole thing. Think about it, if you were in charge of a game like eve would you admit that it was a mistake. Or that your security had been breached? Like wise, it is possible that someone, even a member of ever took the BPO's using some exploit that frankly no one knows about. Wouold the GM's say, oh ya, by the way, there is an exploit that allows people to take corp assets? Nope, cause everyone of us, well at least alot of us, would have thier alts in a corp trying to figure it out.
Also it is possible that someone in EV, or equilibra did take that BPO's and gave them back. This could be through an agreement to keep this thing silent on the forums. If I were faced with the possiblity of getting the BPO's back, and all I had to do was not tell who it was, well you bet I would take them back and never say a word. Heck, the BPO's could have simply showen up on escrow put there by an alt. No one would have even known who did the theft.
Anyways I am glad that EV has thier BPO's back. Regardless of what you may say, the people of EV are a first class bunch.
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Shelta
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:25:00 -
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Well let the flame fest begin. Though if you bother to read my post before flaming I would like you to consider this. If the GM's gave the BPO's back, perhaps there was a reason that we, and the members of EV don't know about. I highly doubt that the GM's would say that someones account had been hacked, or that there was a bugg that caused this whole thing. Think about it, if you were in charge of a game like eve would you admit that it was a mistake. Or that your security had been breached? Like wise, it is possible that someone, even a member of ever took the BPO's using some exploit that frankly no one knows about. Wouold the GM's say, oh ya, by the way, there is an exploit that allows people to take corp assets? Nope, cause everyone of us, well at least alot of us, would have thier alts in a corp trying to figure it out.
Also it is possible that someone in EV, or equilibra did take that BPO's and gave them back. This could be through an agreement to keep this thing silent on the forums. If I were faced with the possiblity of getting the BPO's back, and all I had to do was not tell who it was, well you bet I would take them back and never say a word. Heck, the BPO's could have simply showen up on escrow put there by an alt. No one would have even known who did the theft.
Anyways I am glad that EV has thier BPO's back. Regardless of what you may say, the people of EV are a first class bunch.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:30:00 -
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lol lol lol lol lol lol -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:30:00 -
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lol lol lol lol lol lol -
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:31:00 -
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When will we get an apology for the baseless accusations made against us?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.14 06:31:00 -
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When will we get an apology for the baseless accusations made against us?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert When will we get an apology for the baseless accusations made against us?
as soon as you pay me the 50mil you owe me you do 
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert When will we get an apology for the baseless accusations made against us?
as soon as you pay me the 50mil you owe me you do 
www.dark-cartel.com |

Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Joshua Calvert When will we get an apology for the baseless accusations made against us?
as soon as you pay me the 50mil you owe me you do 
Thats it - back in the cage you go
Like this sig? Check out my sig shoppe.. Zen Jakkaru - "Alexandra Belani (Most sexy terr |

Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Joshua Calvert When will we get an apology for the baseless accusations made against us?
as soon as you pay me the 50mil you owe me you do 
Thats it - back in the cage you go
Like this sig? Check out my sig shoppe.. Zen Jakkaru - "Alexandra Belani (Most sexy terr |

Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:15:00 -
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/me looks around with twitchy, shifty eyes..
<_<
>_>
O_O
CONSPIRACY!!!!
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:15:00 -
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/me looks around with twitchy, shifty eyes..
<_<
>_>
O_O
CONSPIRACY!!!!
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:34:00 -
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What N'Fran meant to say was that they are preparing a public statement and wont speak about the matter until they write up their official Press Release.
Isnt that right N'Fran?
I know you arent going to sully the name of the Corporation. You're a respectable person and leader. |

Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:34:00 -
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What N'Fran meant to say was that they are preparing a public statement and wont speak about the matter until they write up their official Press Release.
Isnt that right N'Fran?
I know you arent going to sully the name of the Corporation. You're a respectable person and leader. |

War Games
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:36:00 -
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What he means is that a GM intervened and since he and others can't talk about GM interventions as by the rules of the board, there will be no more talk about it. What Eve Dev's really think of you! |

War Games
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:36:00 -
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What he means is that a GM intervened and since he and others can't talk about GM interventions as by the rules of the board, there will be no more talk about it. What Eve Dev's really think of you! |

fisho
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy lol lol lol lol lol lol
I think you summed it all up brilliantly once again!!!
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fisho
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy lol lol lol lol lol lol
I think you summed it all up brilliantly once again!!!
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