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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.07.14 21:37:00 -
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Joshua made Xaar do it!
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.07.14 21:37:00 -
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Joshua made Xaar do it!
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:15:00 -
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I cannot express how difficult the last few weeks have been. It took us several weeks to have confirmed by the GM's that EV had in fact, fallen victim to corp theft and as I am sure most of you can understand, it was a major blow to our corp and to many of our old friends, who are now in Eq.
Darcon's original post was unfortunate. It was not a path I would have chosen personally or for EV, but I fully understand the immense frustration and anger he was feeling. Because of that post, far too much of what should have remained private was exposed to the self-serving negativity which still runs rampant in these forums. While I can understand anyoneÆs anger at having a finger pointed anywhere near them or a trusted friend, what a disappointment that my friends let things turn so ugly when none of us knew who the thief was.
Yesterday, EV was contacted by what we now know to be XaarÆs ôagentö. One of the conditions to have the BPOÆs returned was to make the post on the EVE Online Forums which started this thread. I am breaking from those conditions by speaking publicly here, but now that the cat is out of the bag, I think both EQ and EV members deserve a public acknowledgement of whatÆs gone on.
I want to thank Cleopatra, Tamish and Bluevelvet of EQ for keeping civil and working with EV to uncover the culprit. While I am sure many of you guys were doing the same, those guys quietly contacted me and put forth best efforts to resolve our mutual problem.
I apologize to EQ on behalf of EV for the innuendos and negativity of which we were a part. What a shame.
I will not apologize to the EVE community for management decisions on who has/had access to BPOÆs, working diligently to uncover the thief or failing to rise to the sh*t storm many of our current forum *****s have propagated. I stand by my belief that the forums are 99% negative and that I donÆt need to post here unless itÆs something positive.
Xaar, my old friend. You have made a bold and positive decision in identifying yourself as the one who took the BPOÆs. While I donÆt know your mind, I believe you have come forward because things didnÆt turn out at all how you thought they would. I believe you are far too decent of a person to sit idly by and calmly accept the fallout. I appreciate the courage it took to stand up and put an end to this. I appreciate that you are returning the BPOÆs.
Regardless of what has happened, I have no interest in vilifying you. You are working to make this right and there isnÆt anything more I could ever ask of anyone. I want you to know that I still consider you a friend and look forward to one day tossing back a Belgian beer with you.
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:15:00 -
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I cannot express how difficult the last few weeks have been. It took us several weeks to have confirmed by the GM's that EV had in fact, fallen victim to corp theft and as I am sure most of you can understand, it was a major blow to our corp and to many of our old friends, who are now in Eq.
Darcon's original post was unfortunate. It was not a path I would have chosen personally or for EV, but I fully understand the immense frustration and anger he was feeling. Because of that post, far too much of what should have remained private was exposed to the self-serving negativity which still runs rampant in these forums. While I can understand anyoneÆs anger at having a finger pointed anywhere near them or a trusted friend, what a disappointment that my friends let things turn so ugly when none of us knew who the thief was.
Yesterday, EV was contacted by what we now know to be XaarÆs ôagentö. One of the conditions to have the BPOÆs returned was to make the post on the EVE Online Forums which started this thread. I am breaking from those conditions by speaking publicly here, but now that the cat is out of the bag, I think both EQ and EV members deserve a public acknowledgement of whatÆs gone on.
I want to thank Cleopatra, Tamish and Bluevelvet of EQ for keeping civil and working with EV to uncover the culprit. While I am sure many of you guys were doing the same, those guys quietly contacted me and put forth best efforts to resolve our mutual problem.
I apologize to EQ on behalf of EV for the innuendos and negativity of which we were a part. What a shame.
I will not apologize to the EVE community for management decisions on who has/had access to BPOÆs, working diligently to uncover the thief or failing to rise to the sh*t storm many of our current forum *****s have propagated. I stand by my belief that the forums are 99% negative and that I donÆt need to post here unless itÆs something positive.
Xaar, my old friend. You have made a bold and positive decision in identifying yourself as the one who took the BPOÆs. While I donÆt know your mind, I believe you have come forward because things didnÆt turn out at all how you thought they would. I believe you are far too decent of a person to sit idly by and calmly accept the fallout. I appreciate the courage it took to stand up and put an end to this. I appreciate that you are returning the BPOÆs.
Regardless of what has happened, I have no interest in vilifying you. You are working to make this right and there isnÆt anything more I could ever ask of anyone. I want you to know that I still consider you a friend and look forward to one day tossing back a Belgian beer with you.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:39:00 -
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Applause
You failed to put that at the end. No choreographed show is complete with applause at the end of it's exquisite display.
Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:39:00 -
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Applause
You failed to put that at the end. No choreographed show is complete with applause at the end of it's exquisite display.
Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:42:00 -
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A bit cynical, yes?
I think they acted fairly and honorably, unless you have proof otherwise.
If so, I honestly hope you will post it.
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:42:00 -
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A bit cynical, yes?
I think they acted fairly and honorably, unless you have proof otherwise.
If so, I honestly hope you will post it.
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Puppet master
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Puppet master on 14/07/2004 23:04:10
2 steps backwards...yet 3 steps forwards....xaar thanks for
comeing clean..."people learn by there mistakes" and takes
a Real man to admit them....peace out..puppet<
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Puppet master
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Posted - 2004.07.14 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Puppet master on 14/07/2004 23:04:10
2 steps backwards...yet 3 steps forwards....xaar thanks for
comeing clean..."people learn by there mistakes" and takes
a Real man to admit them....peace out..puppet<
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Shar Tegral
Applause
You failed to put that at the end. No choreographed show is complete with applause at the end of it's exquisite display.
EVE-Guardian should be ashamed that they have someone so biased and incompetent on their writing staff. You embarrass both yourself and your organization.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Applause
You failed to put that at the end. No choreographed show is complete with applause at the end of it's exquisite display.
EVE-Guardian should be ashamed that they have someone so biased and incompetent on their writing staff. You embarrass both yourself and your organization.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
EVE-Guardian should be ashamed that they have someone so biased and incompetent on their writing staff. You embarrass both yourself and your organization.
If you have not the intelligence to attack my words and have to resort to character attacks... who is embarassing to anyone here?
I'm entitled to my opinions. It's part of that damned free speech thing I defend when people I don't like choose to send in an article. And they never know that I don't like them becuase when I am doing my job I am doing my job.
Here I'm being a reporter. For the most part I have succeeded in getting what I wanted. For the most part. In truth the whitewash doesn't add up. Simple truth it smells, and feels, orchestrated.
Does this mean I have some insight into what really went on... nope. But it doesn't mean I'm going to refrain from exercising my brain when looking at things either. But then things look so much nicer when it isn't EV members doing the talking. Just former members from two days ago.... like I said, "I use my brain and watched everything said, and everyone who said it, so don't try fronting."
It's embarrassing.
Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
EVE-Guardian should be ashamed that they have someone so biased and incompetent on their writing staff. You embarrass both yourself and your organization.
If you have not the intelligence to attack my words and have to resort to character attacks... who is embarassing to anyone here?
I'm entitled to my opinions. It's part of that damned free speech thing I defend when people I don't like choose to send in an article. And they never know that I don't like them becuase when I am doing my job I am doing my job.
Here I'm being a reporter. For the most part I have succeeded in getting what I wanted. For the most part. In truth the whitewash doesn't add up. Simple truth it smells, and feels, orchestrated.
Does this mean I have some insight into what really went on... nope. But it doesn't mean I'm going to refrain from exercising my brain when looking at things either. But then things look so much nicer when it isn't EV members doing the talking. Just former members from two days ago.... like I said, "I use my brain and watched everything said, and everyone who said it, so don't try fronting."
It's embarrassing.
Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
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Cleopatera
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:42:00 -
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Quote:
I'm entitled to my opinions. It's part of that damned free speech thing I defend when people I don't like choose to send in an article. And they never know that I don't like them becuase when I am doing my job I am doing my job.
Damn strate your entitled to your opnion! But he was not trying to take that away from you. Everybody is entitled to make their own opnions, and everybody else is entitled to tell them they are wrong.
For a 'reporter' you sure are arrogant and norrow minded. Very argumentative from what i've seen of you on the forums recently.
Do not throw slander and lies at EV, they are a top quality corp and n'fran is a very good CEO. now he knew when he made this thread who did it, but was good enuf, to protect xaar and Equilibria, not to just say outright who it was. Everybody in .E. has enormous respect for n'fran and will continue to do so.
now i know your going to try to flame this, and to be honest i dont give a f**k. im just going to do what everybody should, and ignore you.
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Cleopatera
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:42:00 -
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Quote:
I'm entitled to my opinions. It's part of that damned free speech thing I defend when people I don't like choose to send in an article. And they never know that I don't like them becuase when I am doing my job I am doing my job.
Damn strate your entitled to your opnion! But he was not trying to take that away from you. Everybody is entitled to make their own opnions, and everybody else is entitled to tell them they are wrong.
For a 'reporter' you sure are arrogant and norrow minded. Very argumentative from what i've seen of you on the forums recently.
Do not throw slander and lies at EV, they are a top quality corp and n'fran is a very good CEO. now he knew when he made this thread who did it, but was good enuf, to protect xaar and Equilibria, not to just say outright who it was. Everybody in .E. has enormous respect for n'fran and will continue to do so.
now i know your going to try to flame this, and to be honest i dont give a f**k. im just going to do what everybody should, and ignore you.
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TehCarebearKiller
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:45:00 -
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This is so hilarious. Theives returning things??
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TehCarebearKiller
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Posted - 2004.07.14 23:45:00 -
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This is so hilarious. Theives returning things??
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.07.15 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
If you have not the intelligence to attack my words and have to resort to character attacks... who is embarassing to anyone here?
lol, you sure do role-play witty reporter, too bad it's all make-believe for your part. wake up.
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.07.15 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
If you have not the intelligence to attack my words and have to resort to character attacks... who is embarassing to anyone here?
lol, you sure do role-play witty reporter, too bad it's all make-believe for your part. wake up.
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
DELAAN
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Posted - 2004.07.15 01:33:00 -
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I would like to say one thing Shut up Shar!!!! Ok with that said i think what N'Fran was trying to do was save face for both corps but well it only take one person to screw that up !!! Static Enterprises Inc. will always respect EV and .E. there are both upstanding corps and just trying to make this situation easier for both there corps!!!
EV and .E. you are both outstanding corps and don't let anyone take that away from you!!! Thank god for corps like you! Static Enterprises Inc. Will always support you live long and prosper!!!
CEO Static Enterprises Inc.
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DELAAN
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Posted - 2004.07.15 01:33:00 -
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I would like to say one thing Shut up Shar!!!! Ok with that said i think what N'Fran was trying to do was save face for both corps but well it only take one person to screw that up !!! Static Enterprises Inc. will always respect EV and .E. there are both upstanding corps and just trying to make this situation easier for both there corps!!!
EV and .E. you are both outstanding corps and don't let anyone take that away from you!!! Thank god for corps like you! Static Enterprises Inc. Will always support you live long and prosper!!!
CEO Static Enterprises Inc.
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Kern Hotha
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Posted - 2004.07.15 02:41:00 -
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The drama is over but the problem remains without a single comment by a developer. "Wait for Shiva" isn't good enough, in my opinion.
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Kern Hotha
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Posted - 2004.07.15 02:41:00 -
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The drama is over but the problem remains without a single comment by a developer. "Wait for Shiva" isn't good enough, in my opinion.
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Shelta
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Posted - 2004.07.15 04:32:00 -
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I would also like to say
Shut up Shar, I believe that makes me the 5th person to do so.
For someone who role plays a reporter, you sure seem to be full of your self.
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Shelta
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Posted - 2004.07.15 04:32:00 -
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I would also like to say
Shut up Shar, I believe that makes me the 5th person to do so.
For someone who role plays a reporter, you sure seem to be full of your self.
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Skape Gote
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Posted - 2004.07.15 06:38:00 -
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This whole thread has been fabulous entertainment, I just hope the corps in question are as incompetent on the battlefield as they are off it.
One wonders how much of the GM's time has been taken up by this charade and whether the same rules apply for all.
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Skape Gote
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Posted - 2004.07.15 06:38:00 -
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This whole thread has been fabulous entertainment, I just hope the corps in question are as incompetent on the battlefield as they are off it.
One wonders how much of the GM's time has been taken up by this charade and whether the same rules apply for all.
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BogRoll Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.15 06:54:00 -
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I've just read this entire thread and I have to say.. BAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!
What a bunch of whining, mofo's E.V are.. stop filling the forums with this useless garbage. have u got nothing else better to do than sit and moan about who took what..
Why dont u just declare war, kill urselves and do the rest of the eve population a huge favour..
( if this don't get the thread locked now't will )
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BogRoll Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.15 06:54:00 -
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I've just read this entire thread and I have to say.. BAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!
What a bunch of whining, mofo's E.V are.. stop filling the forums with this useless garbage. have u got nothing else better to do than sit and moan about who took what..
Why dont u just declare war, kill urselves and do the rest of the eve population a huge favour..
( if this don't get the thread locked now't will )
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