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TYCONDEROGA
Amarr IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:10:00 -
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Come on down to Ihakana again, I'm sure we can sort this out with some trial and error. He who defends Everything, Defends Nothing! |
P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula EVE is harsh universe. It doesn't hold your hand while you decide whether fighting someone may end badly for you. Seriously, what did you expect to happen when you fired back?
Acutally it does. You get (often annoying) notifications for 50% of the stupid **** you can do that can get you killed.
I can totally see why people complain about the rest, sometimes.
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Zo'Ra Achura
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:14:00 -
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I think what happened is (based on other thread OP wrote):
OP undocks in low-sec and sees pirate next to him: "Hey look at this 'ebil pirate' who has the nerf to look at my mighty nighthawk... I'll pwn him back home cause he's in a small ship and I'm in my mighty nighthawk. Die you sucker!!!!
Hey... who are these other guys?.... Hey, crap... they are shooting me... hey, don't do that!!!. DON'T DO THAT!!!! AARGH, there go my shields... uh oh... panic.. dock dock dock, WAHT? Can't dock!!!! ARRGH... dock dock dock...CAN'T... WTF? NO NOOO NOOOOOOOOOOO"
*pop*
5 mins later
emorage on forum.
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:24:00 -
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WTF is with the 15 minute aggression timer?
HE FIRED ON ME 1st!
WTB on T-shirt.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal You put a bear in your tea???
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Tanner Caligiari
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum What can tank both station sentries and a Nighthawk long enough to kill a Nighthawk? That's what I want to know.
A triple trimarked Dominix with triple 1600mm plates with full gang bonuses. I also have armor HP bonus hardwiring. The domi has a buffer tank of about 43000 armor. It also reps 1000 HP every 8 seconds if I need to run the repper. I did have DPS help mind you. But the Nightmare was triple neuted, warp scrammed, webbed, ecm'd and had been bumped off docking point. The best part is that I had just sold him bandit spurs for 35 million. I asked him if he wanted to pay for safe passage out of our system. No response. He undocked and the rest is history. I need to look at his fit because his tank was fail for the most part....
Tanner Caligari IDLE GUNS / IDLE EMPIRE
yarr!
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Soi Mala
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:31:00 -
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Its amazing that someone could get into a nighthawk without ever hearing about an aggro timer... how can you get so far and know so little?
Its almost as though he... bahhh nevermind, i'm not gonna say it... :)
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Soi Mala Its amazing that someone could get into a nighthawk without ever hearing about an aggro timer... how can you get so far and know so little?
Its almost as though he... bahhh nevermind, i'm not gonna say it... :)
Here, have an "Ebay".. on the house!
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nareg Maxence on 18/12/2008 13:43:43 Hi, some people got it mostly right, but not entirely. It's like this
* Global Criminal Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You engaging a non-legal target. (Your target was legal in the present case.) Consequences: In high-sec, you get Concorded. In low-sec, gate and station guns fire at you but you may be able to tank them. You will lose sec status.
* Aggression Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You being involved in any kind of combat. Whether someone shoots at you or you shoot at them does NOT matter. It resets every time a combat action happens. Consequences: Trying to log off while you are in the aggression countdown starts the ship log off countdown. Aggression countdown has no influence on docking or gate activation!
* Ship Log Off Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You logging off while the aggression countdown was active. Consequences: Your ship will warp out if not held down by scrambler. Your ship will remain in space until the timer runs out. Note, that this is not a continuation of the aggression countdown. The timer restarts at 15 minutes when you log out.
* Pod Log Off Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: Your ship is destroyed while the Ship Log Off Countdown is active. Consequences: Your pod will warp out if not held by a warp bubble. Your pod will remain in space until the timer runs out. Again, this is not a continuation of the Ship Log Off Countdown. The timer restarts when your ship is destroyed.
* Offensive Action Countdown Time: 30 seconds to 1 minute depending on who you ask. (I am declined so say it is 1 minute.) Caused by: You fired at something or engaged an offensive module on something. Whether target is legal or not does not matter. Consequences: You can not dock or activate a gate until the timer runs out.
Reference - Knowledgebase article
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:49:00 -
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Fixing some stuff for you:
Originally by: Nareg Maxence Edited by: Nareg Maxence on 18/12/2008 13:43:43 Hi, some people got it mostly right, but not entirely. It's like this
* Global Criminal Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You engaging a non-legal target. (Your target was legal in the present case.) Consequences: In high-sec, you get Concorded. In low-sec, gate and station guns fire at you but you may be able to tank them. You will lose sec status. Will reset to the full 15 minutes if you change sessions during timer, like undocking/docking
* Aggression Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You being involved in any kind of combat. Whether someone shoots at you or you shoot at them does NOT matter. It resets every time a combat action happens. Consequences: Trying to log off while you are in the aggression countdown starts the ship log off countdown. Aggression countdown has no influence on docking or gate activation!
* Ship Log Off Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You logging off while the aggression countdown was active. Consequences: Your ship will warp out if not held down by scrambler. Your ship will remain in space until the timer runs out. Note, that this is not a continuation of the aggression countdown. The timer restarts at 15 minutes when you log out.
* Pod Log Off Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: Your ship is destroyed while the Ship Log Off Countdown is active. Consequences: Your pod will warp out if not held by a warp bubble. Your pod will remain in space until the timer runs out. Again, this is not a continuation of the Ship Log Off Countdown. The timer restarts when your ship is destroyed.
* Offensive Action Countdown Time: 1 minute Caused by: You fired at something or engaged an offensive module on something. Whether target is legal or not does not matter. Consequences: You can not dock or activate a gate until the timer runs out.
Reference - Knowledgebase article
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Tippia
Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista WTF is with the 15 minute aggression timer?
HE FIRED ON ME 1st!WTB on T-shirt.
Yesplx!
No sig for me, thankyouverymuch. |
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:53:00 -
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Thanks. I knew the criminal countdown could reset, but wasn't exactly sure when that happened.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards 1st you shot back. That creates the yellow aggression.
You have to completely stop shooting for an entire minute before u can redock.[/quote]
this
you have to shut off basically ALL your offensive modules, guns, launchers, webs, warp scrams, ecm, ANYTHING that is affecting another's ship in one way or another
then wait 60 seconds AFTER all those modules are off
then you can dock / jump
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Stygian Knight
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:17:00 -
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I learned that lesson when i first started PvPing which was my second week of game but in a RIFTER !!! not in a nighthawk. Sry mate my loss was 300.000 isk , yours is 300.000.000 isk.
Epic fail
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Leakim jones
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:22:00 -
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@ everyone who wants to see the lossmail....Oooooops To be honest, learn the basics before taking something expensive into low sec. Try a frigate or an assault frigate. Something thats fun to fly and you can get kills in.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Strel Samodelkin
To make things worse I lOgged out and this resulted in me losing my Nighthawk (expensive tech 2 battlecruiser) that was very well fitted with various tech 2 modules. Is there anything that can be done?
Update: Turns out I was pod killed while lOgging out, so there goes the high level implants too.
Typo fixed to reflect the probabilities of the situation.
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Stygian Knight I learned that lesson when i first started PvPing which was my second week of game but in a RIFTER !!! not in a nighthawk. Sry mate my loss was 300.000 isk , yours is 300.000.000 isk.
Epic fail
You crack me up styg.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.18 15:17:00 -
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However you try to make something idiot proof, people's stupidity never stops reaching new, unprecedented levels.
You owe me 1 isk for the free lesson. Boink! |
castraitory
Minmatar AND THEN NO YOU
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Posted - 2008.12.18 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: castraitory on 18/12/2008 15:22:04 Can I........... Can I have your Character , the person who sold you it probably didnt realise you were such an idiot.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo However you try to make something idiot proof, people's stupidity never stops reaching new, unprecedented levels.
The ultimate lesson of evolution: whenever someone creates a better idiot-proof system, nature responds by creating better idiots.
No sig for me, thankyouverymuch. |
Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.18 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo However you try to make something idiot proof, people's stupidity never stops reaching new, unprecedented levels.
You owe me 1 isk for the free lesson.
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." --Douglas Adams
Why can't I get people like this to undock. I'm so jealous. I did however take advantage of the 15 minute aggression timer last night. :)
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.18 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Leakim jones @ everyone who wants to see the lossmail....Oooooops To be honest, learn the basics before taking something expensive into low sec. Try a frigate or an assault frigate. Something thats fun to fly and you can get kills in.
T1 drones, shieldboosted Nighthawk, t1 ammo, t1 CFC/named damage control, oh lawd.
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Joker47
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Posted - 2008.12.18 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: Joker47 on 18/12/2008 17:03:42
Originally by: Strel Samodelkin blahblahblah Quote:
WHINE WHINE WHINE |
Korizan
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Posted - 2008.12.18 17:12:00 -
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THis is actually normal and as others have stated. Call it a consent to PVP.
You fire back you are saying game on lets fight. And now you have a timer till you can use gates or dock in station, or basically escape.
And who says there is no consentual PVP in EVE
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Lady Aja
Caldari Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2008.12.18 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Strel Samodelkin To make things worse I lagged out and this resulted in me losing my Nighthawk (expensive tech 2 battlecruiser) that was very well fitted with various tech 2 modules. Is there anything that can be done?
adapt or gimmie youre stuff
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chinooka
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Aja
Originally by: Strel Samodelkin To make things worse I lagged out and this resulted in me losing my Nighthawk (expensive tech 2 battlecruiser) that was very well fitted with various tech 2 modules. Is there anything that can be done?
adapt or gimmie youre stuff
There is one really easy solution to the problem, which was the first mistake made (apart from logging in) which was the undock.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Also he didn't fire at you as soon as you undocked. The earliest he could have fired at you would still have allowed you time to align and warp in a CS due to undocking targeting invulnerability.
This is not true.
The second you give the command for warping or navigating the ship, you lose the invulnerability status. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |
PeachesAndCream
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:32:00 -
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Hahahahahahahahahaha
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:35:00 -
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I would think people would learn game mechanics before getting into command ships
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NinjaTurtle
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.18 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Strel Samodelkin WHY AM I THE ONE WITH THE AGGRESSION TIMER?
God I miss these forums. Owing to lack of Eve-related content, forums removed. If you would like to discuss this, please flame me. |
Cpt Lollercakes
Warriors of COAD
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Posted - 2008.12.18 20:40:00 -
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
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