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Goyda Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.12.18 20:52:00 - [91] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I would think people would learn game mechanics before getting into command ships ^^ This
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.12.18 20:56:00 - [92] so youve been playing long enough to fly a nighthawk but didnt know how aggro works? me smells troll!
Ukumai	Posted - 2008.12.18 21:03:00 - [93] Edited by: Ukumai on 18/12/2008 21:03:07 You were where? 0.0 huh? Linkage Looks like the account was not involved in a battle since 2 years ago and then wham you get attacked by 4 people.
Franga Gristle Industries	Posted - 2008.12.18 21:03:00 - [94] At least you bought some light to the fact that some timers are far, far too long. Such as the 15 minute GCC. 15 minutes! ----------
charming wanderer	Posted - 2008.12.18 21:17:00 - [95] /me shakes his magic 8-ball... "Signs point to Ebay"
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2008.12.18 21:18:00 - [96] Originally by: Khemul Zula Pwned. this tbh --------------------------------------- CEO 808 Enterprises, A Hawaii, USA Playercorp
Duder Lebowski Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.12.18 23:20:00 - [97] Only posting because I wasted the time to read all four pages of this whining... along with a second thread in GD... I'm not even going to rail on the fact that your fitting was terrible (T1 capacitor flux coil ffs?) Not going to rail on the fact you took a nighthawk to lowsec without a clue how combat in Eve works... Just curious why you wouldn't hop in a shuttle to pick up any small cargo in lowsec in a known pirate hang out? And what did you do to end your undock invulnerability timer so that they could fire on you first? Did you try to align to your destination Stargate? Activate your cough "tank"? Seriously though, look through the forums here or on SHC at Nighthawk fittings, I think you will learn a thing or two. And never ever EVER go into lowsec in a ship you haven't already written off.
Kainoss Gallente Phantom Squad	Posted - 2008.12.19 07:46:00 - [98] Boooooo where is this "very well fit" ship I was promised? ------------
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Strength in Numbers.	Posted - 2008.12.19 07:57:00 - [99] Haven't read the whole thread, but to the OP: ROFL == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.12.19 08:03:00 - [100] Originally by: Nareg Maxence Hi, some people got it mostly right, but not entirely. It's like this * Global Criminal Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You engaging a non-legal target. (Your target was legal in the present case.) Consequences: In high-sec, you get Concorded. In low-sec, gate and station guns fire at you but you may be able to tank them. You will lose sec status. Will reset to the full 15 minutes if you change sessions during timer, like undocking/docking. No, not quite. GCC will not reset on session change, but if the sentries fire on you, their aggression countdown does reset. For example, if you have a minute of GCC left, warp to a station, get shot at by sentries, dock, wait for a couple of minutes and undock, you will still be shot at by sentries but you are no longer a free target for others. And you can jump to high-sec without CONCORD interference, you just need to worry about the eight sentries at the gate. -- Gradient forum

emf Amarr Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.12.19 08:25:00 - [101] It is 60 seconds right? I keep hearing 60 seconds as the right number but someone always comes along and says 30 seconds... Then it always feels like 30 seconds. Probably should just time it myself.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2008.12.19 08:56:00 - [102] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 18/12/2008 03:17:40 So, this guy fires on me first the moment I undock. So, I fire back. BAM I have a 15 minute aggression timer, and he got me warp scrambled all of a sudden. So, I can't warp out, and every time I try docking it says some crap about aggression. WHAT?! I have a 2.0 POSITIVE security RATING, he has like -8.0 or something, he fired on me FIRST, I fired BACK! WHY AM I THE ONE WITH THE AGGRESSION TIMER? To make things worse I lagged out and this resulted in me losing my Nighthawk (expensive tech 2 battlecruiser) that was very well fitted with various tech 2 modules. Is there anything that can be done? Update: Turns out I was pod killed while lagging out, so there goes the high level implants too. Are you serious? I'll assume for the moment that you are. You got an aggression timer as soon as you shot back. This aggression timer is not the same as a global criminal countdown. You only get a global criminal countdown if you shoot a non-flashy in low-sec. The yellow aggression timer does two things. First, you cannot dock or jump through a stargate for a full minute AFTER you've stopped shooting at someone. Doesn't matter who shot who first. Second if you log out with this yellow timer and you are floating in space, your ship stays there for 15 minutes. There a very sensible reasons for this timer. The timer keeps people who are losing in a fight from simply logging out to escape. Clearly being able to game the system this way ("Oh noes I'm going to lose cntrl-q) would be unfair. Importantly for you, however, is that it also prevents people from undocking, blowing up a single ship, and then simply docking again to avoid that single ships friends who are sitting outside the station with him. I think this is completely fair. Closely related to this, it keeps you from getting into a fight outside a station and simply going "geese I can't beat this guy, guess I'll insta dock." So if you want to undock to "get" that one guy in an interceptor sitting there with his buddy in an Absolution, you'd best be able to kill the interceptor and the absolution, kill the interceptor and be able to warp away, or *kill the interceptor and be able to tank the absolution for one minute until you redock.* Similarly if it seems a good idea to get into a fight outside the station, you'd best be able to take the guy, or figure out you might lose with enough time to deagress and dock. Afaic, this system works find and shouldn't be changed. -Karl
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.12.19 09:26:00 - [103] Originally by: emf It is 60 seconds right? I keep hearing 60 seconds as the right number but someone always comes along and says 30 seconds... Then it always feels like 30 seconds. Probably should just time it myself. 60 seconds, yes. Last time I died when trying to jump/dock there was 51 seconds between my last aggressive action and "ship is out of control" message, and I had remembered to recall my drones. -- Gradient forum
NoxCraft	Posted - 2008.12.19 09:33:00 - [104] Edited by: NoxCraft on 19/12/2008 09:34:06 Yeah. http://eve-search.com/thread/504312/page/1#10
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.19 09:44:00 - [105] Originally by: Leakim jones @ everyone who wants to see the lossmail....Oooooops To be honest, learn the basics before taking something expensive into low sec. Try a frigate or an assault frigate. Something thats fun to fly and you can get kills in. looool he agressed a rook and battleship gang.
whitekight Amarr SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs	Posted - 2008.12.19 10:22:00 - [106] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Leakim jones @ everyone who wants to see the lossmail....Oooooops To be honest, learn the basics before taking something expensive into low sec. Try a frigate or an assault frigate. Something thats fun to fly and you can get kills in. looool he agressed a rook and battleship gang. yeah not the best of things to aggress lol. I guess he thought his tank was better than it was......cough, cough!!!
nakKEDK Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.19 10:44:00 - [107] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 18/12/2008 03:17:40 So, this guy fires on me first the moment I undock. So, I fire back. BAM I have a 15 minute aggression timer, and he got me warp scrambled all of a sudden. So, I can't warp out, and every time I try docking it says some crap about aggression. WHAT?! I have a 2.0 POSITIVE security RATING, he has like -8.0 or something, he fired on me FIRST, I fired BACK! WHY AM I THE ONE WITH THE AGGRESSION TIMER? To make things worse I lagged out and this resulted in me losing my Nighthawk (expensive tech 2 battlecruiser) that was very well fitted with various tech 2 modules. Is there anything that can be done? Update: Turns out I was pod killed while lagging out, so there goes the high level implants too. Sure, it was the lag.. k
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2008.12.19 11:21:00 - [108] Originally by: Nareg Maxence Edited by: Nareg Maxence on 18/12/2008 13:51:14 Edited by: Nareg Maxence on 18/12/2008 13:43:43 Hi, some people got it mostly right, but not entirely. It's like this * Global Criminal Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You engaging a non-legal target. (Your target was legal in the present case.) Consequences: In high-sec, you get Concorded. In low-sec, gate and station guns fire at you but you may be able to tank them. You will lose sec status. Will reset to the full 15 minutes if you change sessions during timer, like undocking/docking. * Aggression Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You being involved in any kind of combat. Whether someone shoots at you or you shoot at them does NOT matter. It resets every time a combat action happens. Consequences: Trying to log off while you are in the aggression countdown starts the ship log off countdown. Aggression countdown has no influence on docking or gate activation! * Ship Log Off Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You logging off while the aggression countdown was active. Consequences: Your ship will warp out if not held down by scrambler. Your ship will remain in space until the timer runs out. Note, that this is not a continuation of the aggression countdown. The timer restarts at 15 minutes when you log out. * Pod Log Off Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: Your ship is destroyed while the Ship Log Off Countdown is active. Consequences: Your pod will warp out if not held by a warp bubble. Your pod will remain in space until the timer runs out. Again, this is not a continuation of the Ship Log Off Countdown. The timer restarts when your ship is destroyed. * Offensive Action Countdown Time: 30 seconds to 1 minute depending on who you ask. (I am declined so say it is 1 minute.) Caused by: You fired at something or engaged an offensive module on something. Whether target is legal or not does not matter. Consequences: You can not dock or activate a gate until the timer runs out. Reference - Knowledgebase article A clearcut answer! Thanks very much! Caldari Nationalist Party
Achmed DeadTerrorist Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.19 12:29:00 - [109] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 18/12/2008 03:17:40 So, this guy fires on me first the moment I undock. So, I fire back. BAM I have a 15 minute aggression timer, and he got me warp scrambled all of a sudden. So, I can't warp out, and every time I try docking it says some crap about aggression. WHAT?! I have a 2.0 POSITIVE security RATING, he has like -8.0 or something, he fired on me FIRST, I fired BACK! WHY AM I THE ONE WITH THE AGGRESSION TIMER? To make things worse I lagged out and this resulted in me losing my Nighthawk (expensive tech 2 battlecruiser) that was very well fitted with various tech 2 modules. Is there anything that can be done? Update: Turns out I was pod killed while lagging out, so there goes the high level implants too. You have been playing eve for longenuff to find out if you fire at something you get a timer that does not let you dock. or Ebay mutch? no realy you need to just quit now and get back to wow
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.12.19 12:32:00 - [110] Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Nareg Maxence Hi, some people got it mostly right, but not entirely. It's like this * Global Criminal Countdown Time: 15 minutes Caused by: You engaging a non-legal target. (Your target was legal in the present case.) Consequences: In high-sec, you get Concorded. In low-sec, gate and station guns fire at you but you may be able to tank them. You will lose sec status. Will reset to the full 15 minutes if you change sessions during timer, like undocking/docking. No, not quite. GCC will not reset on session change, but if the sentries fire on you, their aggression countdown does reset. For example, if you have a minute of GCC left, warp to a station, get shot at by sentries, dock, wait for a couple of minutes and undock, you will still be shot at by sentries but you are no longer a free target for others. And you can jump to high-sec without CONCORD interference, you just need to worry about the eight sentries at the gate. Ok, yes. you are right. GCC causes sentry's to aggro, which in turns gives you 15min aggression to whichever Navy owns the sentries. It will reset to full 15 minutes every time a sentry fires on you. Thanks for clarification.

zox180	Posted - 2008.12.23 09:57:00 - [111] Edited by: zox180 on 23/12/2008 09:58:06 I was -10 but you were close
zox180	Posted - 2008.12.23 09:59:00 - [112] Strel Samodelkin > I dont understand this, how come I got aggression timer? Strel Samodelkin > You attacked ME
ShadowMaiden Amarr Metal Machine	Posted - 2008.12.23 11:26:00 - [113] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 18/12/2008 03:17:40 So, this guy fires on me first the moment I undock to go to my level 4 mission. So, I fire back. BAM I have a 15 minute aggression timer, and he got me warp scrambled all of a sudden. So, I can't warp out, and every time I try docking it says some crap about aggression. WHAT?! I have a 2.0 POSITIVE security RATING, he has like -8.0 or something, he fired on me FIRST, I fired BACK! WHY AM I THE ONE WITH THE AGGRESSION TIMER? To make things worse I foolishly decided to ctrl-q,and this resulted in me losing my Nighthawk (expensive tech 2 battlecruiser) that was very well fitted with various tech 2 modules. Is there anything that can be done? Update: Turns out I was pod killed after I ctrl-q, so there goes the high level implants too. Fixed. I wish I was a 3ft doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Lysianna Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:00:00 - [114] Strel Strel Strelà come on mate, you know better then asking silly questions like that. Oh right, you must not know me in this formà Though if itÆs really you, think backà swg backà zagà-rev-à..your combat medicàpoisonà ________________________________________________ Lysianna Hazumason Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
F90OEX F9X	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:07:00 - [115]
Haldeeman Minmatar Infusion.	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:30:00 - [116] fail, op fails.


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