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Kreeia Dgore
EntroPrelatial Industria EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2012.04.14 08:17:00 -
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I don't mind high mineral prices, since if the market is healthy (which it isn't with bots), it will find balance in time. What i like are the banning wawes. If it will result in more cooperation in alliances when pvp corps will provide protection and some support services for indy corps paying isk and ships in return, the better. As regards plex prices, well, right now i pay for 2 accounts and even though i may pay for one and sometimes both with isk, i simply choose not to because i feel like ccp is really caring about the game. May not mean much, but i suppose happy customer paying with real money is allways more than a puppet master (botter) paying nothing for dozens of his accounts. |

Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:30:00 -
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Xython wrote:Testerxnot Sheepherder wrote:The bot bans guarantees that CCP gets my continued subscription fee.
Keep it up For those complaining about how this is causing inflation: It's not. It's removing an artificial source of deflation and the prices are returning to the levels they are supposed to be at. All is well, especially if you're an ethical miner or producer, since you no longer have to compete with cheating smacktards.
You. I like you. |

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.14 10:58:00 -
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We might have higher mineral prices, but I'd rather see a bunch of cheating smacktards cry and have to pay more for ships than the game go into a downward spiral because prices are artificially low, we're all paying the same prices effectively and industry has been given a shot in the arm after being bled dry by entitled little cliff dwellers who don't even play the game.
In the short term it's painful on the wallet, in the long term it's better for the game. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |

Komen
Capital Enrichment Services
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:00:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote:We might have higher mineral prices, but I'd rather see a bunch of cheating smacktards cry and have to pay more for ships than the game go into a downward spiral because prices are artificially low, we're all paying the same prices effectively and industry has been given a shot in the arm after being bled dry by entitled little cliff dwellers who don't even play the game.
In the short term it's painful on the wallet, in the long term it's better for the game.
And as any true Eve vet (bitter or otherwise) knows, it's all about the long term.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.14 15:42:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:Unless CCP Sreegs stops, I'm pretty sure there will be more  I hope he has been given a permanent contract and stays with CCP for a long time. His work makes up for so much that I could ... *sniff* ... cry!
There, I said it. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3335
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Posted - 2012.04.14 15:48:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Rosewalker wrote:Unless CCP Sreegs stops, I'm pretty sure there will be more  I hope he has been given a permanent contract and stays with CCP for a long time. His work makes up for so much that I could ... *sniff* ... cry!There, I said it.
Wow, you have sure changed your tune.
However, since its for the better, I shall join you in a little sniffle. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:17:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Whitehound wrote:Rosewalker wrote:Unless CCP Sreegs stops, I'm pretty sure there will be more  I hope he has been given a permanent contract and stays with CCP for a long time. His work makes up for so much that I could ... *sniff* ... cry!There, I said it. Wow, you have sure changed your tune. However, since its for the better, I shall join you in a little sniffle. I am hard to please. |

Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:01:00 -
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With all the bans going out I wonder if some people have been mistakenly banned? Loving the new mineral prices though ^_^. Sucks for people who dont have time mine though. |

Mirime Nolwe
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:13:00 -
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This is a good move but it will only be effective if the bans are "forever" because 2 week bans wont do crap and all people will forgot about this until next year. |

Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:28:00 -
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Mirime Nolwe wrote:This is a good move but it will only be effective if the bans are "forever" because 2 week bans wont do crap and all people will forgot about this until next year. I do not think so. They will try a second time and get their second strike. CCP already said that only 4% of the initial offenders take it to strike 3. So their punishment system is already to 96% effective. |

Mirime Nolwe
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:38:00 -
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i understand but cheating should not give you a second change. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:51:00 -
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Mirime Nolwe wrote:i understand but cheating should not give you a second change. If they never cheat again, then the second chance was worth it to both the former cheater and the game as a whole.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:55:00 -
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Mirime Nolwe wrote:i understand but cheating should not give you a second change. These idiots will quit anyway. Once they realize how hard it is to make a few billions all by yourself are they gone for some other game where they can use bots again. I do not think many of them can suddenly succeed in this game once their bots are gone. They probably will not know how. |

Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
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Posted - 2012.04.14 20:22:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Oh, the righteous tears of those who break the rules and get butthurt about being punished.
"rider23: I was botting 20hrs/day, on 4 accounts, all banned (+1 extra!) for 2 weeks. 2 remain. Now, without botting I have no other way to make isk and get plexes for all accounts even for my main. So there is no way to play for FREE. FREE? Hmm, seems that CCP have problems with their funding to support company, servers, etc.
So, I will let them eat my s**t, and on my 2 remaining unblocked accounts I have started the process to return all characters to the virtual biomass, where they virtually came from. Subscriptions already canceled."
Lawl.
"Despair.... so delicious!" |

Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
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Posted - 2012.04.14 20:25:00 -
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Moonaura wrote:Im loving the new Jita prices :)
Say, as someone fairly new to this game, where is this Jita I've heard about? I'm guessing it's the trading center of the game. |

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.14 20:41:00 -
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Gorinia Sanford wrote:Moonaura wrote:Im loving the new Jita prices :) Say, as someone fairly new to this game, where is this Jita I've heard about? I'm guessing it's the trading center of the game.
It is, and a complete cess pool, do yourself a favour and don't look at local if you go there. You might wish to avoid it after the 28th. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |

Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
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Posted - 2012.04.14 20:44:00 -
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Momoyo wrote:With all the bans going out I wonder if some people have been mistakenly banned? Loving the new mineral prices though ^_^. Sucks for people who dont have time mine though.
Eh, sometimes I don't have the time to mine, but when I'm offline, I always have some skill with a long training time going, so it's all good. As much as I like making a quick buck, I like to do it honestly and learn all the tricks of the trade. So as a new guy, I'm guessing I shouldn't put too much stock in the current mineral prices then. |

Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
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Posted - 2012.04.14 20:47:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:Gorinia Sanford wrote:Moonaura wrote:Im loving the new Jita prices :) Say, as someone fairly new to this game, where is this Jita I've heard about? I'm guessing it's the trading center of the game. It is, and a complete cess pool, do yourself a favour and don't look at local if you go there. You might wish to avoid it after the 28th.
Hehe, I will bear that in mind. Being that it's in Caldari space (from what I saw from that link), once I get around to getting marketing up to level 5 (not before I get my retriever though), I'll put stuff up to sell remotely. :) |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.04.14 22:22:00 -
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Gorinia Sanford wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:Gorinia Sanford wrote:Moonaura wrote:Im loving the new Jita prices :) Say, as someone fairly new to this game, where is this Jita I've heard about? I'm guessing it's the trading center of the game. It is, and a complete cess pool, do yourself a favour and don't look at local if you go there. You might wish to avoid it after the 28th. Hehe, I will bear that in mind. Being that it's in Caldari space (from what I saw from that link), once I get around to getting marketing up to level 5 (not before I get my retriever though), I'll put stuff up to sell remotely. :)
An advice. If one day you'll go to Jita, NEVER, EVER TRUST OR BELIEVE what you read. ANYTHING said in that chat WILL get your money. ANYONE opening a trade to you there will replace the item you want with a piece of rubbish in 1/100 second while you push the trade button. Whatever happens do NOT trust anybody, anything, anywhere, any *.* in there. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.14 22:24:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:An advice. If one day you'll go to Jita, NEVER, EVER TRUST OR BELIEVE what you read. ANYTHING said in that chat WILL get your money. ANYONE opening a trade to you there will replace the item you want with a piece of rubbish in 1/100 second while you push the trade button. Whatever happens do NOT trust anybody, anything, anywhere, any *.* in there. Go and try reading Jita local chat now with 2000 players in it. The problem has solved itself. |

Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
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Posted - 2012.04.14 22:33:00 -
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Mirime Nolwe wrote:This is a good move but it will only be effective if the bans are "forever" because 2 week bans wont do crap and all people will forgot about this until next year.
The two week ban by itself may not do anything, but also take away the money made while botting and flag their accounts so they can't transfer characters? That hurts them. Here's a quote from a botter:
Bot User wrote:I don't know if they realize it but putting wallets into negative is pretty much a 1-strike policy. There is no way people are going to try and work their way out of a 10-20bil negative wallet. And since you can't upgrade your clone, make contracts, or do anything really, that account is essentially dead. I can understand the no trading characters after a ban, but if they want to try and make players good after a ban and keep them, they would take away assets on the 2nd or 3rd strike.
The Nosy Gamer |

Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.14 22:58:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:Mirime Nolwe wrote:This is a good move but it will only be effective if the bans are "forever" because 2 week bans wont do crap and all people will forgot about this until next year. The two week ban by itself may not do anything, but also take away the money made while botting and flag their accounts so they can't transfer characters? That hurts them. Here's a quote from a botter: Bot User wrote:I don't know if they realize it but putting wallets into negative is pretty much a 1-strike policy. There is no way people are going to try and work their way out of a 10-20bil negative wallet. And since you can't upgrade your clone, make contracts, or do anything really, that account is essentially dead. I can understand the no trading characters after a ban, but if they want to try and make players good after a ban and keep them, they would take away assets on the 2nd or 3rd strike. They are just too dumb to buy a few PLEX to get the balance back up. If they cannot do this or are not willing to and have been cheating the game as freeloaders then it serves them just right. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 23:17:00 -
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Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
416
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Posted - 2012.04.14 23:20:00 -
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Momoyo wrote:With all the bans going out I wonder if some people have been mistakenly banned? Loving the new mineral prices though ^_^. Sucks for people who dont have time mine though. You mean us, taking tech for the the tech throne and all that. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.14 23:23:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet? Probably. The tax gets deducted after the amount went into your wallet. But if not, then I am not going to bother about it.  |

Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:41:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet? Nope but you can sell them with an alt and then transfer the isk. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.15 02:52:00 -
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Drew Solaert wrote:\o/ Would love to see some juicy ban stats. I will make a dev blog with some stats in a few weeks.
We've got a lot of stuff going on at the moment on this front which is taking up a lot of my time. Once that is over and we have some good data, I'll put together a dev blog. Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
669
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Posted - 2012.04.15 03:18:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet? Probably. The tax gets deducted after the amount went into your wallet. But if not, then I am not going to bother about it.  Actually thats wrong. tax is included before the transaction takes place.
However, all accounts come with 3 slots... |

Lady Aja
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Posted - 2012.04.15 04:11:00 -
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@CCP
rmters have a habit of putting isk into contracts aimed at new alts.. so they sit there tilllt hey are ready to make use of said isk.
ccp make it so that contracts from banned accounts cannot be accepted at all. |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
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Posted - 2012.04.15 15:16:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:Drew Solaert wrote:\o/ Would love to see some juicy ban stats. I will make a dev blog with some stats in a few weeks. We've got a lot of stuff going on at the moment on this front which is taking up a lot of my time. Once that is over and we have some good data, I'll put together a dev blog.
Whilst you're at it...
Read.
E: Fixed linky-fail, a "former RMT'er" having an attack of conscience? The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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