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CherniyVolk Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.12.26 22:46:00 - [1] Why are lasers so powerful? I have been screaming about this stuff for a long time, CCP for some reason, still insists that lasers are 'balanced'? Having a laugh CCP? A good time watching the logs? It's completely ridiculous and I don't need stupid numbers when it's so blatantly obvious how overpowered lasers are. You can have +90% resists on EM and Thermal. Get owned faster by a Zealot than if you were in a Minmatar Stabber, no tank at all being shot by a Deimos. First off, the Deimos should be the most powerful close range cruiser. But that's besides the point. Because it doesn't matter what class of ship it is, the lasers are ridiculously overpowered, regardless of the opponents tank. AND CCP goes and reducses EM resists on all armor tanking ships? Improves tracking of lasers.... gives the blasted Zealot another turret slot? God only knows what other crap you gave lasers. That is a bull**** flag a 100 feet high! Lemme ask CCP.... do resistances even matter for lasers? Seriously. They are so overpowered... maybe in calculating damage... perhaps the EM and Thermal resistances are ignored if being shot by a laser? It's got be something like that.... it certainly feels that way. CCP there is a huge problem with lasers. Some alliances make it mandatory for fleet battleships to be Amarr with T2 large lasers. I wonder why? Maybe because they are so overpowered that its truelly ridiculous? What in the world is going on with the lasers?
Horchan Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.26 22:50:00 - [2] ... wait what? Did some Amarr touch you in some bad spots when you were a kid or something? --- DesuSigs
Waxau Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.12.26 22:53:00 - [3] Edited by: Waxau on 26/12/2008 22:52:59 LOUD NOISES
Elhina Novae Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Blade.	Posted - 2008.12.26 22:55:00 - [4] Lasers are good as they are. It's not that lasers are overpowered, its the Projectile/Hybrid being underpowered. ------------ Originally by: Boz Well Originally by: SurrenderMonkey ... There's an Amarr problem? Nothing that can't be solved by more Minmatar nerfs.
Shionoya Risa The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services	Posted - 2008.12.26 22:55:00 - [5] So, this seems to be a "My Deimos got owned in the pants by a Zealot" thread. C/D? -----
CherniyVolk Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.12.26 22:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Waxau Edited by: Waxau on 26/12/2008 22:52:59 LOUD NOISES You're just trying to protect your over-kill advantage. Amarr is so overpowered, if an amarr shuttle warps in, everyone on grid starts taking risidual damage. it's ridiculous.
Xori Ruscuv Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.12.26 22:59:00 - [7] Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 26/12/2008 23:00:06 Amarr really aren't overpowered. It's that the metagame shifted and now range is king. I say this as a full Gallente pilot... who is now training for Amarr ****. I love my Harbinger. I'm guessing that in the relative near term, something will be done to help blasters out. For now, the Dominix is still one hell of a great ship... and the Megathron is still passable with neutrons + null. And if not? Well, then we'll run around in geddons.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.12.26 23:04:00 - [8] No more than one year ago CCP was blamed for ignoring Amarr woes. Isn't life sweet. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Verx Interis Amarr Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2008.12.26 23:16:00 - [9] I also have an "infactuation" with Amarr. ---- Logins required for this post: 974096
Sarciss SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.12.26 23:17:00 - [10] Originally by: CherniyVolk Get owned faster by a Zealot than if you were in a Minmatar Stabber I'd be ****ing upset if you didn't. Fix AC's first. Then you can go and whine like a girl.
The Djego Minmatar merovinger inc	Posted - 2008.12.26 23:40:00 - [11] Originally by: Elhina Novae Lasers are good as they are. It's not that lasers are overpowered, its the Projectile/Hybrid being underpowered. This, to the point. Blasters lack bite in Web Range with the 60% Web now(actualy also the lack a bit in the DPS apartment to) while AKs should finaly got her T1/Faction Amnos incresed to the point they are on paar with other Amnos(plus Hail boosted in Optima Range and reduced in Falloff and without the Cap Penalty, facing a Hail loaded Mini Ship is painfull in closerange slugfest but it is still to limited). Deimos simply lacks gank in the current EvE setting, thats all in my opinion. It it¦s not fancy in the range or flexiblity departmant, if it realy had the power to push true a plated BC solo, it would go a long way in giving it a role. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2008.12.26 23:51:00 - [12] Its not like we are flying 7 heat sink Armageddons melting everybody, is it? *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Vrikshaka 0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats	Posted - 2008.12.26 23:57:00 - [13] Originally by: CherniyVolk Amarr is so overpowered, if an amarr shuttle warps in, everyone on grid starts taking risidual damage. it's ridiculous. Omg...there's only one troll who expresses himself using that particular brand of transcendental wisdom... Johnny JoJo, it is you, it IS you!! voice of C-3PO
Niko Takahashi	Posted - 2008.12.26 23:59:00 - [14] Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Elhina Novae Lasers are good as they are. It's not that lasers are overpowered, its the Projectile/Hybrid being underpowered. This, to the point. Blasters lack bite in Web Range with the 60% Web now(actualy also the lack a bit in the DPS apartment to) while AKs should finaly got her T1/Faction Amnos incresed to the point they are on paar with other Amnos(plus Hail boosted in Optima Range and reduced in Falloff and without the Cap Penalty, facing a Hail loaded Mini Ship is painfull in closerange slugfest but it is still to limited). Deimos simply lacks gank in the current EvE setting, thats all in my opinion. It it¦s not fancy in the range or flexiblity departmant, if it realy had the power to push true a plated BC solo, it would go a long way in giving it a role. This Boost tracking and range on both blasters and Autocannons
Munio Veritas Black Legion Command Black Legion.	Posted - 2008.12.27 00:12:00 - [15] If you're going to use big words, please spell them correctly. *infatuation
LadyLubU2 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.27 00:16:00 - [16] Edited by: LadyLubU2 on 27/12/2008 00:16:13 Originally by: Munio Veritas If you're going to use big words, please spell them correctly. infatuation Grammar *** trying to derail the thread c/d? -- Sig: NARF FALCONS!!! Please resixe image to the maxiumum allowed filesize of 400 x 120 pixels. Navigator
d3vo	Posted - 2008.12.27 00:27:00 - [17] Originally by: CherniyVolk First off, the Deimos should be the most powerful close range cruiser. They do... and the Zealot isn't overpowered and fyi it doesn't tank very well either. __________ \(^.^)/
Wishpool	Posted - 2008.12.27 02:27:00 - [18] Edited by: Wishpool on 27/12/2008 02:27:41 Not too long ago the Zealot was considered to be the absolute worst HAC. Amarr was the worst, most broken race for years... The good deal wagon wheel spins round and round. Soon enough a different race will be king of the hill. As with all things in eve it's all about patience.
Ephemeron Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.12.27 02:42:00 - [19] It's too early to cry about the Amarr. CCP periodically props up each race to be the dominant power. Amarr has waited long enough for their turn. Like the other races before them, they deserve at least 6 months of this advantage. Rest assured, eventually, probably in less than 1 year, CCP will prop up a new race.
Vikarion Caldari White Rose Society	Posted - 2008.12.27 03:54:00 - [20] Edited by: Vikarion on 27/12/2008 03:54:15 Originally by: Ephemeron It's too early to cry about the Amarr. CCP periodically props up each race to be the dominant power. Amarr has waited long enough for their turn. Like the other races before them, they deserve at least 6 months of this advantage. Rest assured, eventually, probably in less than 1 year, CCP will prop up a new race. ...and it darn well better be Minmatar, as I'm training for them. Seriously, though, Amarr are not over-powered - it's that everyone else got nerfed. Caldari with missiles, Gallente with webs and MWDs, and Minmatar with the speed nerf. Before, things were kinda balanced with the exception of some nanos. Now 3 out of the 4 races are nerfed at least in part.
BiggestT Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.12.27 04:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Waxau Edited by: Waxau on 26/12/2008 22:52:59 LOUD NOISES Mmmm, I burnt my tongue. EVE history t2 precisions
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.27 05:03:00 - [22] Amarr is a one trick dog. But its a good trick. They don't have much other going for them "omg lasers".
Zacktar Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.27 05:07:00 - [23] I think the engaging of "leveling" the playing field is nothing but a slippery slope that has been tread upon by CCP. I don't see a reason for nerfing. All races have the ability to cross train so if one particular races ships or weapons just can't hang with the big dogs then train a new race of ships or weapons, etc... Let Eve be like water. Water always seeks its own level. Adapt and overcome. When the micro-managing starts it never ends. Rather it begets more and more micro-managing.
Meridius Dex Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.12.27 05:08:00 - [24] It's hilarious to see these little Simple Sams scream about Amarr being OP. When I first started playing EVE in Oct 2007 Amarr were such the clown race that NONE of their ships were the best in almost any class (that's right kids, even the BS). If you flew Amarr, people would openly laugh at you on the forums. I spent long, endless months training up skills (in several categories), unable to even compete marginally in PvP until I'd reached at least 8 million SPs. The only thing that's changed in the past 14 months directly to Amarr were the EM armor resists - which had been stupidly imbalanced to begin with. No one gave us a laser cap usage reduction (Amarr is still stupidly challenging to new players); we still have essentially one ship bonus that's just there so we can USE our own racial weapons. As has been mentioned already, the only thing that's truly impacted Amarr is that we are the midrange race and for years there was no such thing as midrange combat. You either snipered/nanoed outside 20KM or raced into point-blank range with short-range-ammo fits. Now that speed has been balanced and webs are no longer a 100% effective device to reduce speeds by 90% (which was an imbalanced module, admit it) we now have true "midrange combat". Thus Amarr appear to have been buffed when in reality we have - after years of toiling in misery - merely become viable. -- Meridius Dex -- Awesomeness: "When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again. True story."
Jukhta Mein Domini Umbrus R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.12.27 06:25:00 - [25] Not too long ago people were complaining Amarr were too weak.
Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.12.27 06:33:00 - [26] Its so cute, trying to use big words and failing. ___________________ Yes I'm bitter. (the taste you can see!)
Dong Ninja	Posted - 2008.12.27 07:34:00 - [27] Edited by: Dong Ninja on 27/12/2008 07:34:50 The topic I want to cover in this letter is big and complex, and I don't have much in the way of scientific data on it. Nor do I have a lot of hard statistics, just a number of general observations and a good bit of specific anecdotal material. Before I start, however, I should state that to understand what the OP's particularly hostile form of elitism has encompassed as a movement and as a system of rule, we have to look at its historical context and development as a form of politically incorrect politics that first arose in early twentieth-century Europe in response to rapid social upheaval, the devastation of World War I, and the Bolshevik Revolution. This in mind, I would like to demand a thoughtful analysis and resolution of our problems with the OP. While his semi-literate ramblings might be of some interest to specialists in child communication, I am not up on the latest gossip. Still, I have heard people say that if it were up to the OP, schoolchildren would be taught reading, 'riting, and racism. If I wanted to brainwash and manipulate a large segment of the population, I would convince them that the OP is a spokesman for God. In fact, that's exactly what the OP does as part of his quest to destroy the lives of good, honest people. His musings are like hothouse plants. Tell me something: How can someone who claims to be so educated and so open-minded dare to compromise the free and open nature of public discourse? Whatever the answer, he ought to unstop his ears and uncover his eyes. Only then will the OP hear that to which he has been too long heedless. Only then will he see that I don't know what bothers me most about him. Is it his specious arguments, his illogical reasoning, his obscurantist claims, his unreasonable speculations, or any of the many forms of pseudoscholarship we see in his whinges? In any case, I recently received some mail in which the writer stated, "Favoritism is the leitmotif of the OP's announcements." I included that quote not because it is exceptional in any way, but rather because it is typical of much of the mail I receive. I included it to show you that I'm not the only one who thinks that life isn't fair. We've all known this since the beginning of time, so why is the OP so compelled to complain about situations over which he has no control? If you need help in answering that question, you may note that if I were a complete sap, I'd believe the OP's line that he is the most recent incarnation of the Buddha. Unfortunately for him, I realize that the OP's pranks reflect a headstrong bias that will force us to bow down low before the worst sorts of self-pitying vendors of scapegoatism there are in a lustrum or two. (Yes, the OP's whitewash of the issue offers no real analysis of the situation that resulted in his biggety, disreputable outbursts in the first place, but that's an entirely different story.) We cannot afford to waste our time, resources, and energy by dwelling upon inequities of the past. Instead, we must make this world a kinder, gentler place. Doing so would be significantly easier if more people were to understand that the OP demands absolute and blind obedience from his co-conspirators. If he didn't, they might question his orders to destroy our culture, our institutions, and our way of life. This unrelenting demand of obedience also implies that it's easy enough to hate the OP any day of the week on general principles. But now I'll tell you about some very specific things that the OP is up to, things that ought to make a real the OP-hater out of you. First off, somebody has to prevent the production of a new crop of unrestrained degenerates. That somebody can be you. In any case, I can't make heads or tails of the OP's expositions. I mean, does he want to regiment the public mind as much as an army regiments the bodies of its soldiers or doesn't he? Summa summarum, the OP is more concerned with the social acceptability of an idea than with its truth or falsity.
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.27 07:41:00 - [28] Does somebody mentioned that you don't need a NEUT to kill a Laserboot tank? They do it for you just by shooting ;). Does somebody mentioned that nobody needs to feer the Retribution as you can't be webbed or scrambled? Woho, 1 med slot realy rocks! Does somebody mentioned that it is a pur pain to fly against Gurista, Serpents and Angels (most pupular NPC)? 500 laser DPS suddenly shrink to under 100 DPS ... IMBA!!!!!!! Great EM/THERM Crystals!! Does somebody mentioned how lost Amarr-FW fleet was against Minmatar pre-speed-nerv? 250 -> 5 KM within 10 seconds ... oh year, superior pulse-range realy saved the day lol. Well, to be fair ... Puls-range is cool :). Together with a Apoc maybe a little bit TO-cool. But I would split it with Blaster/Autos anyday for if I get some EXP/KIN Crystals!
7shining7one7 Gallente P0KER GHOST	Posted - 2008.12.27 07:49:00 - [29] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 27/12/2008 07:51:30 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 27/12/2008 07:50:19 some guy gets blown up by an amarr ship, then off to the forum mobile where he exaggerates everything when the simple case was that the other guy had more sp and more combat experience, and had fitted his ship for gank.. and the guy who got blown up had fitted his ship wrong and is now sulky that he can't replace his ship right away on his little pvp venture so he tries to justify it with the other guy clearly having some i win button. "future battles: cherniyvolk: astarte vs Aeon.. OMFG WHATS CCPS INFACTUATION WITH CARRIERS IM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF IT, I FITTED LIKE 180% EM/THERM resists and still it chews through me faster than a megathron chewing through an unfit tempest! WTF CCP I AM TIREDZORS OF YOU NOW YOU SUCK AND CAN I HAS MA SHIP BACK PLZ?" idiot..
Xol'tan Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.12.27 08:01:00 - [30] I used to have a Amarr toon in 06 till i sold him and at the time i was here asking for buffs so im happy they got them, blasters no longer enjoy there ease of use no longer is it a case of mwd, web and kill now getting into range is a real pain in the butt, maybe if they replace some of the tracking bonuses like the 7.5% to tracking on the mega with a 10% falloff bonus so blasters can at least tickle at longer ranges.

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