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Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.27 18:12:00 - [1] I'm looking for a Kronos fit that has a decent DPS output and a solid tank. Money is not an issue, but give me reasons backing up why you fit what you fit. Don't just spam Cormack and say "it's awesome" without giving me reasons. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com
EFT Warrior	Posted - 2008.12.27 18:25:00 - [2] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Money is not an issue. Don't just spam Cormack Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Don't just spam Cormack Wat
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.27 18:34:00 - [3] Read the sentence in its entirety. You can fit Cormack, but give valid reasons. Just so you guys know along what lines I'm thinking, I've been toying with this: [Kronos, Face ***] Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Draclira's Modified Reactor Control Unit Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Chelm's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 ECCM - Magnetometric II Salvager I /OFFLINE Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Salvager I /OFFLINE Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Salvager I /OFFLINE Auxiliary Nano Pump II Nanobot Accelerator II Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Chugs out 1300 DPS for 3 minutes in overload, has a 1200 DPS tank in standard and does not sacrifice gank for tank. Throwing another magstab adds an additional 200 DPS on, but at the cost of 400* tank/sec. So yeah, give me your ideas because I'm hitting a brick wall. I don't fit Megathron hulls much. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com
PsychoBones Project Nemesis	Posted - 2008.12.27 18:34:00 - [4] Edited by: PsychoBones on 27/12/2008 18:35:55 You should use all this faction ** because it's awesome. Edit: You need to buy a 1% PG implant, but that **'s pretty awesome, too. [Kronos, New Setup 1] True Sansha Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis 100MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Auxiliary Nano Pump II Auxiliary Nano Pump II Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1
Captator Universal Securities Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.12.27 21:22:00 - [5] [Kronos, Madness?] Chelm's Modified Large Armor Repairer 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Domination Warp Disruptor Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Brynn's Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive Ahremen's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L True Sansha Medium EMP Smartbomb Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L True Sansha Medium EMP Smartbomb Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Auxiliary Nano Pump II Auxiliary Nano Pump II Valkyrie II x5 Implants: full hg slave, ogdin's 6% tracking, zor 5% mwd speed boost, noble ZET4000 (5% repair amount) OR pashans 7% ROF, Akemon's 8% armour. over 900 dps tank w/o overload, ~1200 with overload, med neut is for anti frig/cruiser defence (heavy cycles too slowly imo), smartbombs are for taking out ecm drones/dromes/frigs. DPS is around the 1200 mark without overload. With the HG slave and Akemon, nearly 24k of armour, 140k EHP. Domi point for range, gallente web as it gives 90% web with marauder bonus, officer cap booster to keep it cap stable, officer mwd for PG reasons.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.27 21:28:00 - [6] [Kronos, PvP] True Sansha Large Armor Repairer 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Domination Warp Disruptor True Sansha Stasis Webifier Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Hammerhead II x5 Shove in some HG Slaves.
Moridin Interstellar eXodus	Posted - 2008.12.28 01:57:00 - [7] missing 1 or 2 ECCM module there. also you do not work solo so let someone else do the tackling. put sensor booster in mid. focus on full gank with null ammo and range rigs. come to think of it why do you want to fly a koronos? i also won 2008 but i did not get any sig
NoNah	Posted - 2008.12.28 02:51:00 - [8] Edited by: NoNah on 28/12/2008 02:53:26 Originally by: TimMc [Kronos, PvP] True Sansha Large Armor Repairer 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Domination Warp Disruptor True Sansha Stasis Webifier Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge L True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Hammerhead II x5 Shove in some HG Slaves. Getting closer, but a few key flaws. Drop a neut or to for smartbombs, you WILL have ECM-drones on you and they will mess you up. You will never avoid a falcon enough through ECCM for it to really matter so don't bother trying - but keep those drones away. Use a gallente navy web, not a true sansha. That last km isn't worth it considering the 75% speed increase you give them with TS compared to Gallente Navy. I would also make a number of other adjustments, same kind of modules but a cheaper version. Dominatino disruptor is not quite worth it on a setup like this. TS rep is but barely worth it. Dropping down one step on most modules barely alters performance but almost halves the price.(guesstimately) If you want to spend lots of isk, go full active. Something along the lines of 2 reps, large smartie, mwd, injector, ions. Should reach some 14-1500 dps tanked with a low tier faction tank(TS/DB/AN). 2 heatsinks and one of the easier to fit mwds and an injector and you're pretty much set. You're basically after a fit which either is cheaper than a highteir mega with similar performance or a hightier kronos to simply outclass the mega. One case is low tier faction all the way the other is extreme highteir for extreme prices. The gray modules are just pointless - here. Parrots, commence! Postcount: 421890
kessah The Accursed	Posted - 2008.12.28 03:36:00 - [9] Tank > Gank. long as your doing 700-800ish dps then your tank should always be of primary concern. Wont say more on the subject. o/
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.12.28 03:50:00 - [10] Officer/faction Kronos = pure stupidity. Officer/faction Kronos with no ECCM = were you dropped on your head as a child? Your absurd waste of ISK is going to die to the first random BC/BB/HAC with ECM drones it happens to run into, and that's not even considering how helpless it is if a real ECM ship shows up. If you're going to take a carebear ship into PvP, at least fit it with pure T2 so you don't end up with such an embarrassing lossmail. -----------
kessah The Accursed	Posted - 2008.12.28 05:18:00 - [11] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Officer/faction Kronos = pure stupidity. Officer/faction Kronos with no ECCM = were you dropped on your head as a child? Your absurd waste of ISK is going to die to the first random BC/BB/HAC with ECM drones it happens to run into, and that's not even considering how helpless it is if a real ECM ship shows up. If you're going to take a carebear ship into PvP, at least fit it with pure T2 so you don't end up with such an embarrassing lossmail. if your solo, then eccm will make little difference to a falcon. You'll need at least 4 to defend agaisnt such a gang. I think ive leant that Marauders in PVP have little use for ECCM. If your Jammed your ****ed, just have to hope that you can escape with your fire power.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.28 05:21:00 - [12] Originally by: kessah Tank > Gank. long as your doing 700-800ish dps then your tank should always be of primary concern. Wont say more on the subject. o/ Yeah, that's why I like the Kronos. Traditionally I have always focused on ships that I can achieve a great tank with before gank (Dominix, Eos) and have come to see that the Kronos has an amazing tank itself. Since I am still relatively new to gunnery (only have 6 mil SP in gunnery, all Gallente spec) I am still trying to work out the amount of gank in a ship like this. I like it because you can slap 4 turrets on it and it has the capacity to do 8 turrets worth of damage. I'm not too crazy about the webbing bonus but because it has one I want to use it. Though I am seeing now, the person that suggested use Null with range, that seems like a great idea. Null doesn't cut too much into your damage and you stay at range. So perhaps working in the officer web to that would give it some use. Originally in my first reply, I had an ECCM instead of a Warp Disruptor. Then I realized I kind of have to tackle things :P So I put it on. But, mentioning that I should have a tackler with me means that I can go back to having the ECCM anyway, which is a nice load off. There are a lot of ideas for this ship and I want to see more ideas coming. Every post so far (sans Merin's, he's just a troll) has given me some food for thought so keep it coming please! :) www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com
PsychoBones Project Nemesis	Posted - 2008.12.28 09:48:00 - [13] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Every post so far (sans Merin's, he's just a troll) has given me some food for thought so keep it coming please! :) I'm pretty sure Merin is actually genuinely just that dumb.
Nuclear Warrior	Posted - 2008.12.28 10:34:00 - [14] Seriously, these setups cost billions for litterally a 100-200 extra in tank or gank. I really hope I find some of you guys fitting these ridiculous fits on the field because it will make me a very wealthy man :P
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.12.28 10:41:00 - [15] Originally by: PsychoBones Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Every post so far (sans Merin's, he's just a troll) has given me some food for thought so keep it coming please! :) I'm pretty sure Merin is actually genuinely just that dumb. What, I'm dumb because I don't fit billions in modules on a ship that, thanks to its low sensor strength, would probably die to a couple T1 battlecruisers (hell, even cruisers would be a real threat)? The simple fact is marauders are *not PvP ships*. The base cost is absurdly high for what they do, and the pathetic sensor strength is a fatal weakness (especially when you don't even fit ECCM). Taking a setup like that into real PvP is just going to get you a very expensive lossmail. Of course none of this really matters, since the real purpose of this thread is yet another of Siigari Kitawa's "I'm stupidly rich and I can throw away billions of ISK!!! LOOK AT MEEEEE!!!!!" ego boosts. -----------
PsychoBones Project Nemesis	Posted - 2008.12.28 11:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Of course none of this really matters, since the real purpose of this thread is yet another of Siigari Kitawa's "I'm stupidly rich and I can throw away billions of ISK!!! LOOK AT MEEEEE!!!!!" ego boosts. Actually it's very rapidly turning into another Merin Ryskin "Hey look I have nothing constructive to add so I'm just going to troll this thread until it dies" thread.
Gawain Hill	Posted - 2008.12.28 12:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 27/12/2008 18:39:41 Read the sentence in its entirety. You can fit Cormack, but give valid reasons. snip Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Salvager I /OFFLINE Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Salvager I /OFFLINE Auxiliary Nano Pump II Nanobot Accelerator II Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Chugs out 1300 DPS for 3 minutes in overload, has a 1200 DPS tank in standard and does not sacrifice gank for tank. Throwing another magstab adds an additional 200 DPS on, but at the cost of 400 tank/sec. So yeah, give me your ideas because I'm hitting a brick wall. I don't fit Megathron hulls much. edited: Added Warp Disruptor. Durrrr don't want the warp disrupter on a bs that's what smaller ships can be used for stick a tracking computer on there instead with an optimal script plugged in (yea bonus to fall off too) and saying don't spam cormack without a valid reason other than it's ace (the fact it's ace being the only reaso) then doing just that IS a little contradictory
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.12.28 18:18:00 - [18] Edited by: NeoTheo on 28/12/2008 18:19:30 Originally by: Merin Ryskin Officer/faction Kronos = pure stupidity. Officer/faction Kronos with no ECCM = were you dropped on your head as a child? Your absurd waste of ISK is going to die to the first random BC/BB/HAC with ECM drones it happens to run into, and that's not even considering how helpless it is if a real ECM ship shows up. If you're going to take a carebear ship into PvP, at least fit it with pure T2 so you don't end up with such an embarrassing lossmail. merin, the ECM drones issue has already been addressed further up in a much more useful way than you managed to put it. as for falcons and other ECM ships, 1 ECCM and a backup isnt going to get you out of hot water, so hows about you stop being a smacktard. sitting here flaming people whilst failing to join in on the discussion in any useful way is stupid (all tho i do admit, its par for the course), get over yourself man. if some dude wants to spunk billions on a fat ship then let him. its like calling wildcat a dork for loosing his nightmare, these are pixels and they are there to have fun with. - DAMT - If you dont know, well, you dont know!
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.28 20:15:00 - [19] Remember. When you have aggro, you cannot jump. How did that petition go anyhow?
NoNah	Posted - 2008.12.28 20:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Fifi LeFume Remember. When you have aggro, you cannot jump. How did that petition go anyhow? Where can we find the killmail? Parrots, commence! Postcount: 634883
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.28 20:35:00 - [21] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: Fifi LeFume Remember. When you have aggro, you cannot jump. How did that petition go anyhow? Where can we find the killmail? I was actually referring to his faction fitted EOS. I'm hoping he brings out his kronos to fight though ^^
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.28 23:53:00 - [22] I approve of the all cormack fit, please undock with it. -------------------------- NOTR nsfw
PsychoBones Project Nemesis	Posted - 2008.12.29 04:58:00 - [23] Originally by: Rajere tackled by my falcon. You what?
EFT Warrior	Posted - 2008.12.29 05:00:00 - [24] You know you could just pay me 3 billion to fly around with you until your ship dies and you would save more money and get more DPS with it than officer fitting your ship.
Miss Peaches	Posted - 2008.12.29 06:04:00 - [25] Hi want to fight my deimos with ECM drones?
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.29 07:18:00 - [26] You know I find some of the replies here funny. In any game, people typically want the "best stuff". It's a given. You don't run around in Half Life shooting people with a Pistol, you don't build a Sim City without plopping down some rewards, and you don't settle for a pair when you are playing poker. Instead, you find a shotgun and go around blowing people away, you place all your city rewards in picturesque spots in your city and you go for four of a kind in poker. Similarly in EVE, I don't settle for tech 2. I want the best. Ever since a couple years ago it has always been a personal goal to make the best out of every ship I fly. And I have fun doing it. Nobody can prevent me from having fun. So I look at a ship and say "what can I do to this to make it the best it can be?" Sure I know each ship I fly has a limited life, but there are some ships I will enjoy for months. What I see here in this thread is a large amount of disrespect for someone's idea of fun. That is just about scraping the barrel when it comes to putting someone down and to be honest it fails miserably. I have never allowed the views of one person (or multiple persons) to prevent me from fitting ships in an extravagant way to please me. They make me happy. Going out with the rush that I have, hovering over my modules knowing there is nothing that can get the job done better is a feeling that excites and energizes my EVE experience. If I want to fit ships a certain way that others may not and they see it as "a horrible idea" then they don't have to fit their ships that way. All I am looking for is ideas on fitting a Kronos. Here in this thread have been multiple good ideas which I am going to examine. So I'm pretty happy with the replies provided so far. I'll have something fun soon. We'll see. :) As for all the commentary and comments saying that I'm an idiot and other comments along those lines, it really just shows immaturity. Idiots do not have degrees from universities. Anyway again, I want to thank the people that have helped me out. I think I've got what I need to sort out a good Kronos. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com
Zecks Marquise The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.29 07:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 29/12/2008 00:04:06 I approve of the all cormack fit, please undock with it. Quote: Where can we find the killmail? couple of weeks ago aduro moved into our backsystem and started trying to ninja rat/live there. I noticed Siigari had lost a sin worth many billions so I decided to teach him how to use blackops the eos in the comments is siigari And here's the Eos about a week or so later. He was sat on a gate, tackled by my falcon. He aggressed, but then forgot to turn off his point on my falcon so he stayed aggressed the entire time. It wouldn't have mattered anyway as he died in 59 seconds. And if you're wondering why he didn't just kill my falcon, he couldn't. My falcon tanks more than he did. TBFH It makes no sence for you to come on to a thread about a Kronos fitting and bring up this stupid nonsence. None of what you just said has anything to do with the price of tea in china? So hush and sit back and wait till your time comes and i will be coming soon :). Also none of you people can sit there and tell me that you wish you weren't a poor lowlife and you wish that you had the isk to fit your ships like this. These items are in the game for a reason. They aren't used to just sit in your hanger and collect dust or link in your bio and say "Look what i got im never going to use it but it sure does look purdy". Get a life and find something else to do with your time rather than post on threads and make yourself look like a total noob. Thank you for reading -Zecks Marquise -Legend Killer- STAY IN BED WE GOT IT
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.29 08:22:00 - [28] On the contrary I look forward to the day Siigari undocks with his kronos. I have the feeling though it will be somewhere far away, probably in high sec to run level 4 missions so he can afford more bling for his ships. All anyone is really saying is it doesn't matter what you undock in, you'll still lose because you are terrible at this game. -------------------------- NOTR nsfw
Miss KillSome Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.29 08:22:00 - [29] 1. that eos killmail is nothing fancy..U blobed the man with even more isk than he is trying to put onto his kronos. 2. ECM from falcon is >> then ecm drones..Drones can be poped while falcon, 180km away, cannot. If he gets enemy falcon onto battlefield, he must hope that he is in jump range/docking range while he can pop drones with smartbombs. Thats why its pointless to fit ECCM if u are alone. Even if u dont have to tackle, one ECCM will not do any magic to anything! Kronos will still be jammed alot by 5x medium ECM drones. 3. As for tank > gank or gank > tank question..U gonna play solo? against solo players? U gonna roam 0.0? In 1:1 situation, if u can outlast the opponent, u win, in blobage situation, u have to have alot of gank to get as many KMs as u can. 4. fitting with those medium smarties from captator is very solid. Maybe reconsider switching LAR for one better (a/x-type), though u'll have to fit all ions then.. And i would go with 5 medium ecms and 5 warriors in dronebay..And some of those implants may be hard to get, but HG slaves, ZET 4000 and 5000 isnt such a bad idea. I wouldnt plugin zor's one, u are not fast in this ship, rather put something else there.. It really comes down to where u gonna play it, and with who.. ----- TCODA corporation is recruiting! TCODA is awesome!
Zecks Marquise The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.29 08:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Rajere On the contrary I look forward to the day Siigari undocks with his kronos. I have the feeling though it will be somewhere far away, probably in high sec to run level 4 missions so he can afford more bling for his ships. All anyone is really saying is it doesn't matter what you undock in, you'll still lose because you are terrible at this game. OMFG you dont get it do you? do you have the brain mass of a grain of salt? for gods sakes it doesnt matter what anyone in the entire universe of eve undocks in you can always be killed no matter what. Nobody in this game is untouchable, maybe if they are like you they will stay in station and spin there ship with their thumb up their a. If you dont get that concept in your head then you should hang up your jock strap and sit and rotate, because heres the inside scoop my friend, the people who take risks in this game make in out to be one of the great ones... STAY IN BED WE GOT IT**

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