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Bren Tashmoor
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:24:00 -
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Art of War - SCAMMERS Atomic Battle Penguins - SCAMMERS Darwin Award Foundation - SCAMMERS
represented themselves as a merc corp DO NOT EVER HIRE THEM
They do not honor contracts. They are not a merc corp. They are scammers. Period.
DO NOT GIVE THEM ISK. You will simply loose it.
Never, EVER trust any of these pilots:
Jonny 101 - SCAMMER kublai - SCAMMER LordHelmchen - SCAMMER Kaar - SCAMMER H'wi Noree - SCAMMER Juddah - SCAMMER Waragha - SCAMMER Minnow maught - SCAMMER Lefiere - SCAMMER Mrs Lefiere - SCAMMER Mataki Onimareu - SCAMMER Tanis Kitieran - SCAMMER Fintroll - SCAMMER Jerat - SCAMMER Jack Stryk - SCAMMER Joseph Corso - SCAMMER Kibbler - SCAMMER Intigo - SCAMMER The Defender - SCAMMER
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:27:00 -
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Edited by: kublai on 31/12/2008 06:30:40 Bitter.
Do not screw with my friends, do not try to hire mercenaries on my friends, do not try to screw with mercenaries.
This is what happens, when you **** with the wrong people.
But thank you for the 3 billion isk, I now leave you in the tender loving care of Atomic Battle Penguins blasters.
We are mercenaries, and you are the target.
Edit: Post with your main...AE Rivven.
Win 2B isk |

Kibbler
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bren Tashmoor
Never, EVER trust any of these pilots:
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Joseph Corso - SCAMMER Kibbler - SCAMMER Intigo - SCAMMER
...
What I did to deserve this honorable mention, I shall never know. ;(
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:42:00 -
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Potentially epic thread. Can you tell us exactly what happened, kublai? That link didn't really help much. --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit Potentially epic thread. Can you tell us exactly what happened, kublai? That link didn't really help much.
Honestly, i've been working this thing all night and i'm beat, maybe tomorrow, I did make a screenshot and stuff but now I *really* need sleep.
Let's just say this is a very good example of why you don't try to screw over mercenary corporations.
Win 2B isk |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:46:00 -
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I expect a full report 
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de4deye
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bren Tashmoor Art of War - SCAMMERS Atomic Battle Penguins - SCAMMERS Darwin Award Foundation - SCAMMERS
represented themselves as a merc corp DO NOT EVER HIRE THEM
They do not honor contracts. They are not a merc corp. They are scammers. Period.
DO NOT GIVE THEM ISK. You will simply loose it.
Never, EVER trust any of these pilots:
Jonny 101 - SCAMMER kublai - SCAMMER LordHelmchen - SCAMMER Kaar - SCAMMER H'wi Noree - SCAMMER Juddah - SCAMMER Waragha - SCAMMER Minnow maught - SCAMMER Lefiere - SCAMMER Mrs Lefiere - SCAMMER Mataki Onimareu - SCAMMER Tanis Kitieran - SCAMMER Fintroll - SCAMMER Jerat - SCAMMER Jack Stryk - SCAMMER Joseph Corso - SCAMMER Kibbler - SCAMMER Intigo - SCAMMER The Defender - SCAMMER
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!*points in your face and singles you out*  .
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starbowk
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:49:00 -
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Damm cant even trust merc corps now....This is a sad day for EvE |

Sancho Pwnza
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bren Tashmoor Art of War - SCAMMERS Atomic Battle Penguins - SCAMMERS Darwin Award Foundation - SCAMMERS
Well duuuuh. 
/me is eagerly anticipating Kublai's (SCAMMER) explanation of the backstory to OPs callout.  |

Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.31 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kirra Liu on 31/12/2008 07:20:58
First page on an epic thread.
To the OP, if you had even bothered to check Art of War you would have seen that it's a holiday camp for the big bad people of Eve. Kublai is a scammer "shock / horror" and is quite open about this, Jonny 101 is Kublai and I didnt even bother to read the other names.
What I would suggest to you is to contract your stuff to me and I will see that it goes to a good home, also I would like to point you in this direction linky and I hope you have a good time there.
To Kublai and co, Hi-Five for bringing precious tears to this forum.
edit: Double fail points for the OP for posting with an alt
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PsychoBones
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I expect a full report 
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: PsychoBones
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I expect a full report 
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |

Sacul
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.31 08:03:00 -
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ouch that must hurt
YOU SHOW THEM BREN!!!!
/me shakes fist

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Ulasim
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.12.31 08:05:00 -
[14]
lol
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Zeromentor
High Flyers
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Posted - 2008.12.31 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: PsychoBones
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I expect a full report 
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***I was going to put a sig here, but I decided having a smaller sig would make it less likely to be hit by people's turrets.*** |

Nathan Harrow
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bren Tashmoor kublai - SCAMMER
My world just came crashing down... 
BTW what did ABP scam out of the OP? Or have you just lost lots of ships to Daves Megathron already?
Mercs wont take kindly to you throwing accusations around, unless of course, its deserved and then we will probably thank you for them...
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2008.12.31 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zeromentor
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: PsychoBones
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I expect a full report 
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Ralarina
Caldari Vivicide
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Posted - 2008.12.31 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: kublai Edit: Post with your main...AE Rivven.
You are so evil   --
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Fintroll
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 09:11:00 -
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I believe Herr Kublai just made his entry into the griefing contest. Welcome to the own zone, dumbass.
Art of War is Recruiting |

DEV IL
Gallente Atomic Battle Penguins The Darwin Award Foundation
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Posted - 2008.12.31 09:25:00 -
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You base this accusation on what exactly ?
some proof would be nice, chat logs, a screeny perhaps
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.31 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: DEV IL You base this accusation on what exactly ?
some proof would be nice, chat logs, a screeny perhaps
We don't do that around here... blind accusations make for better threads
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.31 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: DEV IL You base this accusation on what exactly ?
some proof would be nice, chat logs, a screeny perhaps
We don't do that around here... blind accusations make for better threads
Yes :| -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Euriti
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.31 11:20:00 -
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This is quite hilarious. Expecting an epic thread
Originally by: Bren Tashmoor Jonny 101 - SCAMMER kublai - SCAMMER
The sky is blue, water is wet, what is new?
Quote: El'Tar > IM UR PET NOW
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Rilwar
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2008.12.31 11:22:00 -
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1st page on epic thread. ---O-H--S-H-*-T---
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Tyranthin
Incurable Insanity Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.12.31 11:33:00 -
[25]
This should be entertaining.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.31 11:43:00 -
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tbh ABP are one of the best merc corps in game atm and ive never heard of anyone having issues with them.
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Cown
Caldari Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.12.31 11:45:00 -
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Can you eat scammers? mmmm
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Welcome to my personal opinion, if you don't like it, i don't give a s***. :-) |

In General
Veto.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: In General on 31/12/2008 12:52:24 /me grabs popcorn
*fake edit first page in epicness
*real edit to correct typo's in fake edit, totally ruining it *sigh
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Malusae
Caldari House CHOAM Terrebellum
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Posted - 2008.12.31 13:15:00 -
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I'm already laughing and we haven't even gotten the report yet..
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Ralarina
Caldari Vivicide
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Posted - 2008.12.31 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cown Can you eat scammers? mmmm
nomnomnomnomnomnomnom --
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 13:32:00 -
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Welcome to the Own Zone
As the first link I posted would tip you off, this is the guy seeking multiple high sec mercs on the forum now.
I've had quite a few people try to hire mercs on me the last few days, so i've been keeping tabs on who hires who to kill who, this among other things meant I contacted this chap to see if this thread was meant for me.
As it turns out, it was not, when contacting the OP he wanted me to destroy Atomic Battle Penguins and another mercenary corp whom I wont name until i've spoken to their CEO (he wasn't available yesterday so I won't name them just yet).
Well this is just rubbish I think, I like Dave, and eXtas has a sweet bum, disrespect like this? no way!
I was going to de-mask the alt and prevent any harm coming to innocent sweet Dave and corp X.
Now to get his main, I needed leverage, isk is a good leverage I thought so I set about trying to convince this guy that I could crush abp like they were nothing along with the other corporation, it takes me about four hours of convincing (yes, you think I talk too much, but being able to spam bull**** for four hours continuasly is quite profitable I assure you).
In the end he wires me 3b isk with the promise of 2b on completion, after recieving the isk (this bit is important for those trying to learn technique here) I tell him that I need to know his main, as we work on the promise of more after the job, I tell him only I need know, not even my CEO's will hear about it.
Now this guy is really keen on keeping his identity secret, and frankly most people would be if they wanted to destroy two top mercenary corps, but I have 3 billion of his isk and at this point he can't do anything but agree.
Que the events in the above screenshot, alas he left the chat as soon as this happened so we didn't get any exciting drama...apart from this.
Did I scam him? hell yes I did, and i'll scam you too if you try to mess with people I like!
I valiantly threw myself infront of Dave using my body as a shield to block that evil 3 billion isk of blood money, because that's the type of nice guy I am.
As for the above scamming accusations....trust me, Dave is not cut out for scamming, murder yes, scamming, don't make me laugh.
Am I a scammer?
Hell no, I think we can all agree that I am a humble and legitimate miner scraping his way on the bare minimum required to sustain himself in this fine and noble game.
Now the morale of this story is, don't **** with mercenaries, someone will find out and they'll come own you.
ABP are as we speak at war with these gents, why that is you'll have to talk to Dave about.
Gentlemen, I hope you enjoy my tale, I had a ton of fun making it.
Love Kublai
Win 2B isk |

Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.31 13:38:00 -
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Requesting Sticky -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Shigsy
Independent Traders Ignition.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 13:45:00 -
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People trying to hire mercs against kublai? 
What ******s, you have to undock to be shot by mercs 
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: hellsknights on 31/12/2008 13:59:01 Edited by: hellsknights on 31/12/2008 13:58:27 Bravo on the scam.....
But i dont get how this is good publicity for any merc corp. I predict you lose many contracts on basis that you might say "corpname" are my friends and you cant mess with them, now gimme 3 bil!!!
BTW when i look in your eyes you give me the warmess feeling in the world.......IN MY PANTS!!!
Edit. grammar
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:05:00 -
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I'm confused. I thought mercenary corps were supposed to be objective . If you can't fulfill the contract then you simply decline it, you don't screw over the client. Am I understanding correct that the mercs turned against their client?
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye I'm confused. I thought mercenary corps were supposed to be objective . If you can't fulfill the contract then you simply decline it, you don't screw over the client. Am I understanding correct that the mercs turned against their client?
a Scam is a Scam, and if you were going to hire mercenaries against mercenaries, you should expect it, anytime, coming from anywhere. -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Tarynn Dahhn
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:12:00 -
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Is the TL;DR version that the OP requested A-WAR to take a Contract on Atomic Battle Penguins, and because you are Allies in some way, you took his 3B ISK and negated the Contract?
If so, does A-WAR provide Mercenary Services, or was that, in fact, the OP's fatal mistake?
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:12:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 31/12/2008 14:15:12 Concorduck,
And how exactly would the client know when the merc corp they're hiring is up for a scam or actual merc work? Don't get me wrong, like you said, a scam is a scam. But it will hurt your corp in the long run when you claim to be a merc corp and actually scam your clients out of isk.
And it shouldn't matter who your hiring mercs against. I'm sure there are merc corps out there that would take contracts against other merc corps. So to say "you don't hire mercs against mercs" is silly.
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Tarynn Dahhn
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Concorduck if you were going to hire mercenaries against mercenaries, you should expect it, anytime, coming from anywhere.
I wholeheartedly disagree.
I've had Mercs called on Suddenly Ninjas a bunch of times, and have become friends/Allies with a few, and when they've been requested for further 'work' against us, they've declined. (Sure, we're not Mercs, but they also didn't pull a scam on the potential Clients, either.)
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:15:00 -
[40]
(I'm sure everybody can figure out who the above 'Taryn Dahhn' posters were, without me saying "crap, I fubar'd my posts".)
We're Recruiting! |

My'kel An'jelo
Amarr Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:19:00 -
[41]
lol
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 31/12/2008 14:20:14
Originally by: kublai Did I scam him? hell yes I did, and i'll scam you too if you try to mess with people I like!
Playing Devils Advocate for the moment how was this guy to know that you had a known-only-to-yourself pact with another random corp/person that meant if someone offered you ISK to do something against them that you would automatically renege on the deal?
Don't have any axe to grind on this because I have no interest in this line of business, however when you said "don't f*** with mercenaries" I naturally assumed he had tried to scam you somehow, or con you out of due payment, or something when in reality you took his ISK and because the contracted target was someone you happened to like for reasons known only to yourself you just decided to take the ISK and name & shame?
I don't understand the train of thought really - is it against a code of conduct for one to hire mercs to fight other mercs? I would've presumed that a professional outfit would inform a potential client in advance if their target represented a conflict of interests, but as said I have zero involvement with merc politics, creed or whatever so am quite willing to be told I'm wrong, lrn2merc or whatever.
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye And it shouldn't matter who your hiring mercs against. I'm sure there are merc corps out there that would take contracts against other merc corps.
Can i has my 3b in advance plz kthxbai -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:28:00 -
[44]
um, you do realize respectable merc corps ask for an advance, dontcha?
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:29:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Concorduck
Originally by: Matrix Skye I'm confused. I thought mercenary corps were supposed to be objective . If you can't fulfill the contract then you simply decline it, you don't screw over the client. Am I understanding correct that the mercs turned against their client?
a Scam is a Scam, and if you were going to hire mercenaries against mercenaries, you should expect it, anytime, coming from anywhere.
You boviously have no clue of the politics of this game.....mercs have 2 things going for them: 1 their word (IE not scamming their client) and 2 their skills as mercs.
So you scam your client, and lose many potential clients and yes people hire mercs to fight other mercs. Mercs dont care who they fight as long as their getting paid!
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: hellsknights So you scam your client, and lose many potential clients and yes people hire mercs to fight other mercs. Mercs dont care who they fight as long as their getting paid!
And that's why we have this thread.
oh, wait... -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Fintroll
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:30:00 -
[47]
To clarify, the mistake he made was trying to pay Kublai ISK to attack Kublai's friends.
How would he have known that they are friends with Kublai? The question is, who isn't friends with Kublai?
Art of War is Recruiting |

Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:34:00 -
[48]
Originally by: hellsknights
Originally by: Concorduck
Originally by: Matrix Skye I'm confused. I thought mercenary corps were supposed to be objective . If you can't fulfill the contract then you simply decline it, you don't screw over the client. Am I understanding correct that the mercs turned against their client?
a Scam is a Scam, and if you were going to hire mercenaries against mercenaries, you should expect it, anytime, coming from anywhere.
You boviously have no clue of the politics of this game.....mercs have 2 things going for them: 1 their word (IE not scamming their client) and 2 their skills as mercs.
So you scam your client, and lose many potential clients and yes people hire mercs to fight other mercs. Mercs dont care who they fight as long as their getting paid!
This I have to agree with. I would think someone touting themselves as a merc corp would sell out to the highest bidder. And if it was a conflict of interest it would become a non-contract. I also think this would be bad for business, as this is a business contract and not a personal interest.
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:35:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Fintroll To clarify, the mistake he made was trying to pay Kublai ISK to attack Kublai's friends.
How would he have known that they are friends with Kublai? The question is, who isn't friends with Kublai?
A better question is "Who does Kublai consider a friend ?"
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:35:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Fintroll To clarify, the mistake he made was trying to pay Kublai ISK to attack Kublai's friends.
How would he have known that they are friends with Kublai? The question is, who isn't friends with Kublai?
Was this a contract or a person paying another said person to kill said person......Anyhow this thread and points stating this is a scam cant be good advertising.
Would mercs turn on other merc friends???????Ill answer, IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:35:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Fintroll To clarify, the mistake he made was trying to pay Kublai ISK to attack Kublai's friends.
How would he have known that they are friends with Kublai? The question is, who isn't friends with Kublai?
The mistake he made was actually believing you guys were mercs. Kudos on the scam though.
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Captator
Universal Securities Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:40:00 -
[52]
Loving the pink UI Kublai , It would seem that the mistake made was not really hiring Art of War for mercenary services, but more trying to hire them against their friends, Art of War not being a wholly mercenary work orientated corporation, and not having any qualms about turning a potential contract into a scam . Nicely done.
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 14:40:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 31/12/2008 14:38:39
Originally by: Fintroll To clarify, the mistake he made was trying to pay Kublai ISK to attack Kublai's friends.
How would he have known that they are friends with Kublai? The question is, who isn't friends with Kublai?
The mistake he made was actually believing you guys were mercs. Kudos on the scam though. Although it wasn't very bright for you to come to the forums bragging on how you scammed your "client" by pretending to be mercs.
If Art Of War are not mercs then ....WTFC, nice scam but if they consider themselves mercs.....well then, let the posting continue.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:06:00 -
[54]
Bah the OWN-ZONE pic isn't working for me. 
So in a nutshell - was A-War pretending to be a Merc corp to scam this guy of his isk?
If so - wow, do your homework carebears! 
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:09:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Goyda A better question is "Who does Kublai consider a friend ?"
The most important question I see is, "Who does Kublai NOT consider a friend?" Whoever is on that list should seriously consider Mission Running or Mining.

We're Recruiting! |

Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:09:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Kirra Liu on 31/12/2008 15:11:52 Thread delivers. Anyone who gives Kublai / Art of War isk upfront is juts asking for trouble, known scammer, very publicised etc, it's no different from the fools that pay 200 mill to join Goonswarm and then bitch that they got scammed, it's on the forums and a little bit of research would have told them everything they needed to know.
A scam done by a well known scammer is bloody awsome tbh, if people can't do their research then they really don't deserve to keep their isk.
EDIT: Forgot to say, can't see this hurting the rep of legitimate merc's as the people who know what they are doing will use well known merc's and those that don't know what theyre doing will just be lambs to the slaughter, but people will always be hiring merc's.
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Imperious Rapt
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Imperious Rapt on 31/12/2008 15:11:34 It's probably far more appropriate to simply state that what you SHOULD have done if you did indeed not wish to fulfill his contract was to deny it. Seems pretty straight forward to me, and if you really wanted to be a **** about it you could have told ABP what was up without revealing the name.
By taking his ISK and publicly revealing his identity under the supposed mistake of targeting your friends whom he would have had to charter Miss Cleo to know in the first place, you've only shown that you cannot be trusted to do what you've spent a lot of time building up both a reputation and empire around.
Some may say well played, but they're ignorant of the true ramifications for some of your future endeavors. I sincerely hope that 3 billion ISK was worth the future loss of business this may net you. Justify it however you want, I simply have a feeling this one may come back to bite you in the ass, repeatedly.
Of course, all of the above is absolutely invalid if you aren't a Merc corp in the first place, but my nose has been so deep in the marketplace for the past year I really can't say. ;)
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:12:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Omarvelous Bah the OWN-ZONE pic isn't working for me. 
So in a nutshell - was A-War pretending to be a Merc corp to scam this guy of his isk?
If so - wow, do your homework carebears! 
Wait...AoW is NOT a merc corp?
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:14:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Omarvelous Bah the OWN-ZONE pic isn't working for me. 
So in a nutshell - was A-War pretending to be a Merc corp to scam this guy of his isk?
If so - wow, do your homework carebears! 
I think they actually believe they're a merc corp  If I'm wrong, then what I say is blasphemy and I'm sowwy 
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:20:00 -
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A-War is NOT a merc corp, we have done some merc work, and we might do again but it's only for fun and we would only consider it if paid very well, but no, we're not a mercenary corp.
As for getting jobs in the future if we want them, I turn down multiple merc gigs every week, if this means less spam then great.
I myself do merc work occationally (as an individual) but as I am mostly hired to...well do stuff like described above, this is really just going to increase my market value and little else.
But about the scamming etc, it's not WHAT you do in eve, it's who you do it to.
Now A-War never intended to take this contract, I convoed this guy initially to try to find out if he wanted to hire mercs against me (believe it or there are a few guys who have been trying this lately), when he told me who the target was I immidately convoed Dave and began working on finding the guys identity, there was no way to get his identity without first having leverage and frankly i'm not opposed to parting a fool of 3b isk.
I never once during this had any intent what so ever to do any mercenary merc for this person no matter what, he was being played from the first second.
As for A-Wars reputation, that is forged on the killboards, not the forum, we don't care what you think about us.
New players who read this though take a lesson, you never know whos friends with who in eve, but you can be pretty sure that if you try to hire famous badasses to kill other famous badasses, odds are good said famous badasses will know each other.
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Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:24:00 -
[61]
Anyone else find it funny that the OP and Kublais response are 3 minutes apart? You really do live here Kublai. Grats on the scam although I wouldn't put it past you to make the OP so you could get the PR. Good or bad You keep me entertained.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:26:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Slim P1kens Anyone else find it funny that the OP and Kublais response are 3 minutes apart? You really do live here Kublai. Grats on the scam although I wouldn't put it past you to make the OP so you could get the PR. Good or bad You keep me entertained.
Well, considering he posted this directly after the deed was done.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:27:00 -
[63]
Originally by: kublai A-War is NOT a merc corp, we have done some merc work, and we might do again but it's only for fun and we would only consider it if paid very well, but no, we're not a mercenary corp.
After this, if anyone "pays you very well" or even at all to do a merc job then they deserve to be scammed .
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:28:00 -
[64]
Originally by: kublai A-War is NOT a merc corp, we have done some merc work, and we might do again but it's only for fun and we would only consider it if paid very well, but no, we're not a mercenary corp.
Then I shall say this: Well played!
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:29:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: kublai A-War is NOT a merc corp, we have done some merc work, and we might do again but it's only for fun and we would only consider it if paid very well, but no, we're not a mercenary corp.
After this, if anyone "pays you very well" or even at all to do a merc job then they deserve to be scammed .
Actually the irony is A-War collected payment on a merc job like 30 minutes before you posted this for a job we *did* complete, if you want details you can visit our killboard and deduce.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:35:00 -
[66]
Well, it seems it's still a crap shoot whether you'll fulfill a contract or not. I guess you decide who's to fulfill and who's not. Still makes your "client" from 30 minutes ago a fool for trusting you with his isk. Even if "this time" you decided to honor the contract.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:36:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Well, it seems it's still a crap shoot whether you'll fulfill a contract or not. I guess you decide who's to fulfill and who's not. Still makes your "client" from 30 minutes ago a fool for trusting you with his isk. Even if "this time" you decided to honor the contract.
A-War didn't scam the OP, Kublai did.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:39:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 31/12/2008 15:40:43 Oh I see. If it's a scam, then the individual did it, not the corp. If the contract is honored, then the corp takes prop. Gotcha :P. Now it's just a matter of figuring out when Kublai is doing business on behalf of his corp and when it's on behalf of himself .
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:42:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 31/12/2008 15:40:43 Oh I see. If it's a scam, then the individual did it, not the corp. If the contract is honored, then the corp takes prop. Gotcha :P. Now it's just a matter of figuring out when Kublai is doing business on behalf of his corp and when it's on behalf of himself .
Exactly! :)
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Kaar
Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 15:56:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Well, it seems it's still a crap shoot whether you'll fulfill a contract or not.
Thats about right.
We should probably join KIA.
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Eschiava Q
Minmatar Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:01:00 -
[71]
I agree with the OP:
Scammers should NOT be hiring Art of War.
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Clone 666
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:02:00 -
[72]
OOOOOOOOOH! Now I get it. I think I might have a turducken lodged in my brain. 3b huh? Seems like an awful lot of isk to pay up front for any contract. Amirite?
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:11:00 -
[73]
While I enjoy one scam as much as the next pirate, I am still amused that given your notoriety people still manage to get scammed by you. You have made this an art.
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:12:00 -
[74]
Kublai you said your BADASS......more like SADASS....with a side note of goat vaginal juices.
Just a side note though.
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Dave Tehsulei
Atomic Battle Penguins The Darwin Award Foundation
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:22:00 -
[75]
ABP played no role in this scam... Its not something I do nor would even try to really because im rubbish at it.
In fact we were going to be the victims of this individuals bloated wallet had kublai not come a long and relieved him of his hard earned isk.
I put my name in the convo because i was invited to by kublai and i like most in eve enjoy seeing the tears of my enemies.
The accusations in the op are being made by an alt of the ceo of our current contract targets, hes obviously upset his plan to destroy us has back fired.
Our employer however will be very pleased to hear that the plan has failed and cost his enemy 3billion isk.
So i thank kublai for a scam well done and AE Rivven for giving me something to smile about. -------
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Temujin Ambaghai
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:31:00 -
[76]
I'm enjoying all these people that are taking this way to seriously... the gist of it is pretty simple really.
Kublai was attempting to garner intel on the target of the merc contract, thinking it was himself. Kublai found out that it was instead ABP that was the target, being friends with gods rod of justice he then attempted to discover the identity of the person initiating the contract. the only way to do this was to be in a position of power, easiest way to do this, take said persons money.
This wasn't a scam, it was an attempt to garner intelligence, the only way he could do this was through gaining an advantage, and in this case it was through isk.
congrats kublai on a game well played
and side note: lol at the original merc thread where everyone was recommending ABP to the contractor as the best merc corp who has beat most other merc corps, when they were the target... i'm still giggling 
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Avan Sercedos
Shockworks
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:34:00 -
[77]
Why would you want to war dec people with as cool of a name as ABP?!?!
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.12.31 16:42:00 -
[78]
I'm friends with kublai, we spoke in local once (hah, have fun hiring mercs on me now)
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Nova Satar
Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.31 17:09:00 -
[79]
pretending to be a merc for hire isn't a scam.
OP is a ****** for giving someone isk. Kublai is a ****** for claiming he 'worked' this.
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Jezala
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 17:38:00 -
[80]
The hot pink is sexy.
My hat is off to you sir! Awesome to see you doing what you do best.
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Clone 666
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 17:58:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Temujin Ambaghai I'm enjoying all these people that are taking this way to seriously... the gist of it is pretty simple really.
Kublai was attempting to garner intel on the target of the merc contract, thinking it was himself. Kublai found out that it was instead ABP that was the target, being friends with gods rod of justice he then attempted to discover the identity of the person initiating the contract. the only way to do this was to be in a position of power, easiest way to do this, take said persons money.
This wasn't a scam, it was an attempt to garner intelligence, the only way he could do this was through gaining an advantage, and in this case it was through isk.
congrats kublai on a game well played
and side note: lol at the original merc thread where everyone was recommending ABP to the contractor as the best merc corp who has beat most other merc corps, when they were the target... i'm still giggling 
What part of "it was a scam" was misleading to you?
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Ur235
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2008.12.31 18:04:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Ur235 on 31/12/2008 18:05:17
Couldnt you have just said "sorry no they are friends of ours we refuse to attack them no matter how much isk you give us" As this is what a proper mercernery alliance would do. That way there credibility as a mercenery alliance is intact.
The way you guys went about it I doubt you will get many contracts ever again tbh
So bascially peeps, the moral of this story is Dont hire Art Of War as there is a chance you could be contracting them to kill a friend of theres and then screw you over for it and take all your isk
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Temujin Ambaghai
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Posted - 2008.12.31 18:09:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Clone 666
Originally by: Temujin Ambaghai I'm enjoying all these people that are taking this way to seriously... the gist of it is pretty simple really.
Kublai was attempting to garner intel on the target of the merc contract, thinking it was himself. Kublai found out that it was instead ABP that was the target, being friends with gods rod of justice he then attempted to discover the identity of the person initiating the contract. the only way to do this was to be in a position of power, easiest way to do this, take said persons money.
This wasn't a scam, it was an attempt to garner intelligence, the only way he could do this was through gaining an advantage, and in this case it was through isk.
congrats kublai on a game well played
and side note: lol at the original merc thread where everyone was recommending ABP to the contractor as the best merc corp who has beat most other merc corps, when they were the target... i'm still giggling 
What part of "it was a scam" was misleading to you?
it may have ended up seeming as one, but the primary goal wasn't to take isk, the goal was to discover the identity of the persons behind the contract, kublai just ended up getting some money with it.
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2008.12.31 18:10:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Ur235 Edited by: Ur235 on 31/12/2008 18:05:17
Couldnt you have just said "sorry no they are friends of ours we refuse to attack them no matter how much isk you give us" As this is what a proper mercernery alliance would do. That way there credibility as a mercenery alliance is intact.
The way you guys went about it I doubt you will get many contracts ever again tbh
So bascially peeps, the moral of this story is Dont hire Art Of War as there is a chance you could be contracting them to kill a friend of theres and then screw you over for it and take all your isk
I get the feeling most people don't read a thread before posting in it. :)
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Destalis
Caldari Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.31 18:13:00 -
[85]
Sometimes looking at the forums is worth the subscription fee alone
Hats off to another excellently executed "learning experience"
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FU22
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 18:43:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Ur235 Edited by: Ur235 on 31/12/2008 18:05:17
Couldnt you have just said "sorry no they are friends of ours we refuse to attack them no matter how much isk you give us" As this is what a proper mercernery alliance would do. That way there credibility as a mercenery alliance is intact.
The way you guys went about it I doubt you will get many contracts ever again tbh
So bascially peeps, the moral of this story is Dont hire Art Of War as there is a chance you could be contracting them to kill a friend of theres and then screw you over for it and take all your isk
Please scroll up/go back a page and read kublai's posts where he says AoW are not mercs.
Thank you
Oh and very nice, why do people never learn and do their research before they go throwing isk around like theres no tomorrow? 
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Mya ElleTerego
The Hull Miners Union Primary.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 18:44:00 -
[87]
Yea I wouldnt blindly dump billions of isk to a pirate corp, masquerading as a Merc corp without some kind of track record.. I mean cmon Kublai ransomed your corp without even doing anything.. If it was a professional merc corp they wouldnt have scammed for a mere 3 bil, that would cover maybe 1-2 fleets of BS, or 2 carriers. I think the op learned a valuable lesson to research a merc corp before they blindly try to get anyone to wardec thier opponent for them.
That said, too funny kublai.  CEO For the Hull Miners Union [ONION]
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.12.31 19:03:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Ur235 Edited by: Ur235 on 31/12/2008 18:05:17
Couldnt you have just said "sorry no they are friends of ours we refuse to attack them no matter how much isk you give us" As this is what a proper mercernery alliance would do. That way there credibility as a mercenery alliance is intact.
The way you guys went about it I doubt you will get many contracts ever again tbh
So bascially peeps, the moral of this story is Dont hire Art Of War as there is a chance you could be contracting them to kill a friend of theres and then screw you over for it and take all your isk
They didn't want those contracts anyway. [center]
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 19:10:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Destalis Sometimes looking at the forums is worth the subscription fee alone
Hats off to another excellently executed "learning experience"
The fee is worth it because of me!!! I run the show in these parts.
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ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.12.31 19:13:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Bren Tashmoor
Jonny 101 - SCAMMER kublai - SCAMMER LordHelmchen - SCAMMER Kaar - SCAMMER H'wi Noree - SCAMMER Juddah - SCAMMER Waragha - SCAMMER Minnow maught - SCAMMER Lefiere - SCAMMER Mrs Lefiere - SCAMMER Mataki Onimareu - SCAMMER Tanis Kitieran - SCAMMER Fintroll - SCAMMER Jerat - SCAMMER Jack Stryk - SCAMMER Joseph Corso - SCAMMER Kibbler - SCAMMER Intigo - SCAMMER The Defender - SCAMMER
confirming these are all kublai's alts.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2008.12.31 19:36:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Bren Tashmoor <snip>
so what your saying is... you lack common sense and have continuously been scammed?
Wow... that's bitter alright.... =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com =============== |

Sacul
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.31 21:29:00 -
[92]
Originally by: kublai but you can be pretty sure that if you try to hire famous badasses to kill other famous badasses, odds are good said famous badasses will know each other.
aint that the truth there its like **** magnets...they do work! 
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NoMoreLies
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 21:31:00 -
[93]
kudos kublai  __________________________
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2008.12.31 21:36:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Jovialmadness on 31/12/2008 21:44:02 Edited by: Jovialmadness on 31/12/2008 21:43:51
Quote: Am I a scammer?
Hell no, I think we can all agree that I am a humble and legitimate miner scraping his way on the bare minimum required to sustain himself in this fine and noble game.
My bs meter just literally exploded
Quote: As for getting jobs in the future if we want them, I turn down multiple merc gigs every week, if this means less spam then great.
My guess is is because they demand performance before pay
Quote: A-War didn't scam the OP, Kublai did.
That makes alot of sense. So if someone from Atomic Battle Penguins scams the hell out of people, its ok cause that wont like tarnish the hell out of their image
Kublai, you make me laugh
i dont think you have much room to even complain if your future children(ingame) were burned at the stake. You are a scammer plain and simple. Anything anyone says about you is fair game and probably true whether it be good or bad...especially the bad.
Suck it up and enjoy the attention. Just don't try to validate your scams. It makes you look cheap and vulnerable.
Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
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Pollux21
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 21:45:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Pollux21 on 31/12/2008 21:45:00 Bren Tashmoor known scammer TBH
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:05:00 -
[96]
Edited by: kublai on 31/12/2008 22:05:57 I don't have to justify anything at all, this is Eve-online, where theft, scamming and murder are integral part of the gameplay, a game made great by both good and evil.
Without me and those like me, this game would not exist, what suprises me though is how fast supposedly honest and kind people who accuse me of being horrible irl due to my actions, turn to wanting to burn my unborn children on stakes.
All I want, is some of your computer game currency, whos the bad guy.
PS. Posting with your main is hip, I even scam with my main, the least you can do is post on yours so I can kill you for being stupid.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:09:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Jovialmadness on 31/12/2008 22:09:51 hehe, na na thats cool what you just wrote. you just appeared to be trying to "validate" your reasons for scamming when what you do is simply scam.
p.s. i stated *ingame* children my child. learn to read.
p.s.s. there are reasons we use alts on here mostly for trolling sometimes to keep us protected. for you, im using it simply to troll you.
p.s.s.s. i agree scamming is cool. so no worries. it is a very nice flavor to the game.
Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:11:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Jovialmadness Edited by: Jovialmadness on 31/12/2008 22:09:51 hehe, na na thats cool what you just wrote. you just appeared to be trying to "validate" your reasons for scamming when what you do is simply scam.
p.s. i stated *ingame* children my child. learn to read.
p.s.s. there are reasons we use alts on here mostly for trolling sometimes to keep us protected. for you, im using it simply to troll you.
p.s.s.s. i agree scamming is cool. so no worries. it is a very nice flavor to the game.
You'd be suprised how often i'm told such things without an *ingame* appended.
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Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:14:00 -
[99]
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Slim P1kens Anyone else find it funny that the OP and Kublais response are 3 minutes apart? You really do live here Kublai. Grats on the scam although I wouldn't put it past you to make the OP so you could get the PR. Good or bad You keep me entertained.
Well, considering he posted this directly after the deed was done.
what an hour and half later? your SS shows 0510. and the cross posting reeks of your work. The stupidity of giving you 3bil ISK is not in question. 3bil is a light haul for you and by coming out and saying it you lose the right to make fun of every ****-ant corp thief who posts a chest beating thread in C&P.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:14:00 -
[100]
Originally by: kublai Edited by: kublai on 31/12/2008 06:30:40 Bitter.
Do not screw with my friends, do not try to hire mercenaries on my friends, do not try to screw with mercenaries.
This is what happens, when you **** with the wrong people.
But thank you for the 3 billion isk, I now leave you in the tender loving care of Atomic Battle Penguins blasters.
We are mercenaries, and you are the target.
Edit: Post with your main...AE Rivven.
U dumass u broke the #1 rule of being a merc, Do wat they pay you to do, F ur friends and allies just do your job and collect. Art of War=Fail
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:19:00 -
[101]
Originally by: kublai -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: kublai on 31/12/2008 06:30:40 Bitter.
Do not screw with my friends, do not try to hire mercenaries on my friends, do not try to screw with mercenaries.
This is what happens, when you **** with the wrong people.
But thank you for the 3 billion isk, I now leave you in the tender loving care of Atomic Battle Penguins blasters.
We are mercenaries, and you are the target.
Edit: Post with your main...AE Rivven.
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Quote: U dumass u broke the #1 rule of being a merc, Do wat they pay you to do, F ur friends and allies just do your job and collect. Art of War=Fail
Yea, i sorta agree. If Art of War have and will do merc contracts on occasion, it doesn't make sense to have someone scamming peeps FROM THAT CORP. Kublai has like a thousand alts so you never know from whom he will be coming at you with. Its a scam nevertheless and kudos to getting the isk, its just not hard doint that tbh. I mean, ABP's could just as easily start scamming now and just blame one of their guys for it while still trying to maintain a rep with more reputable seniors in the corp. Seems impossible but meh.
Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:23:00 -
[102]
Now now, I am Art of War's official diplomat so I think we can safely assume I represent the attitude of the corporation.
That is to say, if you have a problem with us...tough luck.
Now if you have any complaints about this, please contact our head of complaints departement "Fintroll".
Some of the ignorance, jealousy and bitter scam victim alts in this thread is just hilarious though, as if A-War gives a **** what some second rate high sec miner thinks about us.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:26:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Jovialmadness on 31/12/2008 22:26:53
Quote: Now now, I am Art of War's official diplomat so I think we can safely assume I represent the attitude of the corporation.
That is to say, if you have a problem with us...tough luck.
Now if you have any complaints about this, please contact our head of complaints departement "Fintroll".
Some of the ignorance, jealousy and bitter scam victim alts in this thread is just hilarious though, as if A-War gives a **** what some second rate high sec miner thinks about us.
Art of war's complaint department wouldn't by chance have a grenade on the desk with a complaint number attached to the pin now would they?
Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:27:00 -
[104]
I have a feeling you don't know fintroll in person or by reputation, we don't need a grenade.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:28:00 -
[105]
Quote: I have a feeling you don't know fintroll in person or by reputation, we don't need a grenade.
is he a scary virtual rapist?
Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
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Avan Sercedos
Shockworks
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:30:00 -
[106]
No, dumbass, he's a troll with a fin  Cheers. |

kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:30:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Jovialmadness
Quote: I have a feeling you don't know fintroll in person or by reputation, we don't need a grenade.
is he a scary virtual rapist?
He was kicked and permanently banned from goons for bad behaviour and low morals, we love him.
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Clone 666
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:31:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Trader20
Originally by: kublai Edited by: kublai on 31/12/2008 06:30:40 Bitter.
Do not screw with my friends, do not try to hire mercenaries on my friends, do not try to screw with mercenaries.
This is what happens, when you **** with the wrong people.
But thank you for the 3 billion isk, I now leave you in the tender loving care of Atomic Battle Penguins blasters.
We are mercenaries, and you are the target.
Edit: Post with your main...AE Rivven.
U dumass u broke the #1 rule of being a merc, Do wat they pay you to do, F ur friends and allies just do your job and collect. Art of War=Fail
You must be one of the kids they gave the big crayons to. Is it because they are easier to grasp with your chubby little tard hands or maybe its more difficult to fit them in your mouth?
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Fintroll
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:32:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Jovialmadness
Quote: I have a feeling you don't know fintroll in person or by reputation, we don't need a grenade.
is he a scary virtual rapist?
I'm known to send some pretty creepy evemails.
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Avan Sercedos
Shockworks
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:35:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Fintroll
Originally by: Jovialmadness
Quote: I have a feeling you don't know fintroll in person or by reputation, we don't need a grenade.
is he a scary virtual rapist?
I'm known to send some pretty creepy evemails.
Me too, but I'm not famous.
I killed a one month old shield tanked hyperion with arty and medium rails. Is that OK? Cheers. |

Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:36:00 -
[111]
Quote: I'm known to send some pretty creepy evemails
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na, anyway, kudos on the scam. I get kicks out of reading about them. deep down i do feel bad for the victims but we have to becareful and every action in eve can be pure horror or bliss so its give and take.
Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:41:00 -
[112]
I was scammed too you know, once, lost 500m in an IPO scam when I was a newb.
Of course I sendt a congratulation mail to the scammer, despite sitting with hardly anything left.
Different people handle eve in different ways.
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Kathrine LaVie
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:42:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Kathrine LaVie on 31/12/2008 22:43:04 Edited by: Kathrine LaVie on 31/12/2008 22:42:24 I call shinagins on the reasoning put forward by the scamer. If you cannot fulfill the contract, you decline it. You do not take the money then run.
Why? For the same reason a pirate honors ransoms. Because the OP will come here, and quite frankly make you look bad. Not only that, but it makes the ENTIRE profession look bad. Especially with the parroting about of "hire mercs against mercs and expect to be scammed" bit.
This makes ALL Merc corps look untrustworthy. Essentially you are saying, "sure I'm a Merc, but if I happen to like the people you want me to kill, I'll pretend I don't then just steal your money."
Tbh, if I were in the Merc community I'd go after the offenders based on the general principle that the offender is hurting YOUR image and YOUR bottom line.
My 2cents.
K
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:49:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Kathrine LaVie Edited by: Kathrine LaVie on 31/12/2008 22:43:04 Edited by: Kathrine LaVie on 31/12/2008 22:42:24 I call shinagins on the reasoning put forward by the scamer. If you cannot fulfill the contract, you decline it. You do not take the money then run.
Why? For the same reason a pirate honors ransoms. Because the OP will come here, and quite frankly make you look bad. Not only that, but it makes the ENTIRE profession look bad. Especially with the parroting about of "hire mercs against mercs and expect to be scammed" bit.
This makes ALL Merc corps look untrustworthy. Essentially you are saying, "sure I'm a Merc, but if I happen to like the people you want me to kill, I'll pretend I don't then just steal your money."
Tbh, if I were in the Merc community I'd go after the offenders based on the general principle that the offender is hurting YOUR image and YOUR bottom line.
My 2cents.
K
You're a moron and you didnt read the thread, I never intended to offer a contract, I wanted to know if the contract was on me, it wasn't, it was on someone I liked so !smack pow pang!
This guy was trying to destroy two mercenary corps with his carebear isk, I crushed him.
So far i'm seeing a storm of approval from the respected mercenary community and a wall of complaints from....well alts and people I haven't got a clue who are.
Art of War is not a mercenary corporation, but if anyone has a problem with us by all means, come kill us
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:57:00 -
[115]
Originally by: kublai
So far i'm seeing a storm of approval from the respected mercenary community and a wall of complaints from....well alts and people I haven't got a clue who are.
Art of War is not a mercenary corporation, but if anyone has a problem with us by all means, come kill us
I am an alt, and what kublai did not damage mercs in any way. I bolded the important part, it would seem that some people were not aware of this. ABP is a very professional merc outfit and will no doubt carry on fulfilling their future clients wishes.
kublai on the other hand is a big meanie scammer He is the scorpion trying to get across the river on the frogs back. It's in his nature. If the OP didn't realize that before, he should thank kublai for the education.
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Jezala
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 22:58:00 -
[116]
Out of curiosity, how successful would that poor bloke have been in achieving his goals had you not brutally crushed his plans?
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:11:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Jezala Out of curiosity, how successful would that poor bloke have been in achieving his goals had you not brutally crushed his plans?
Not sure, how succesful do you think i'd be if I dressed up as an orthodox jew and took a stroll along the palestine part of the gaza strip while singing "let the bodies hit the floor"?
I think the chances of success are about equal
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Chymaerus
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:15:00 -
[118]
OP is obviously Kublai. This entire thread is the result of one middle school aged mentality strutting around beating his chest for achieving what amounts to petty theft and generating drama between his own alts to draw more attention to his less than massive accomplishment. |

kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:18:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Chymaerus OP is obviously Kublai. This entire thread is the result of one middle school aged mentality strutting around beating his chest for achieving what amounts to petty theft and generating drama between his own alts to draw more attention to his less than massive accomplishment.
Yes its all really an elaborate practical joke where I first created a multi-gaming organisation, then faked a convo, paid Dave Tehsulei to join the joke and vouch for this thread not being made by my alt, then war decc my alt corp featured in the screenshot with ABP to make it all look legit.
You busted me.
Win 2B isk |

Trader20
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:20:00 -
[120]
kublai, send me the 2billion isk because I made you cry in the other thread.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:20:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Zeba on 31/12/2008 23:21:00
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Chymaerus OP is obviously Kublai. This entire thread is the result of one middle school aged mentality strutting around beating his chest for achieving what amounts to petty theft and generating drama between his own alts to draw more attention to his less than massive accomplishment.
Yes its all really an elaborate practical joke where I first created a multi-gaming organisation, then faked a convo, paid Dave Tehsulei to join the joke and vouch for this thread not being made by my alt, then war decc my alt corp featured in the screenshot with ABP to make it all look legit.
You busted me.
What you think people don't do that kind of stuff then poast about it on the forums? 
edit. Still though great scam. ;-D
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Chymaerus
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:23:00 -
[122]
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Chymaerus OP is obviously Kublai. This entire thread is the result of one middle school aged mentality strutting around beating his chest for achieving what amounts to petty theft and generating drama between his own alts to draw more attention to his less than massive accomplishment.
Yes its all really an elaborate practical joke where I first created a multi-gaming organisation, then faked a convo, paid Dave Tehsulei to join the joke and vouch for this thread not being made by my alt, then war decc my alt corp featured in the screenshot with ABP to make it all look legit.
You busted me.
Truly you have an amazing intellect and wonderous reading comprehension skills 
You might want to give my last post another go 
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Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:25:00 -
[123]
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Chymaerus OP is obviously Kublai. This entire thread is the result of one middle school aged mentality strutting around beating his chest for achieving what amounts to petty theft and generating drama between his own alts to draw more attention to his less than massive accomplishment.
Yes its all really an elaborate practical joke where I first created a multi-gaming organisation, then faked a convo, paid Dave Tehsulei to join the joke and vouch for this thread not being made by my alt, then war decc my alt corp featured in the screenshot with ABP to make it all look legit.
You busted me.
Oh I believe the scam went down. But the timing is just to good Kublai. The OP and your response are 3min apart. You said that was because it had just happend, but the OP was an hour and half after your SS time. the cross posting in GD and warfare and tactics started as soon as you start posting here again.
Come on be out with it, you got 3bil. There is no reason to use an Alt to come on here and start the chest beating thread for you.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:25:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Chymaerus
You might want to give my last post another go 
Or you could just stop posting.
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Chymaerus
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:29:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Chymaerus on 31/12/2008 23:30:36
Originally by: Slim P1kens Edited by: Slim P1kens on 31/12/2008 23:27:09
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Chymaerus OP is obviously Kublai. This entire thread is the result of one middle school aged mentality strutting around beating his chest for achieving what amounts to petty theft and generating drama between his own alts to draw more attention to his less than massive accomplishment.
Yes its all really an elaborate practical joke where I first created a multi-gaming organisation, then faked a convo, paid Dave Tehsulei to join the joke and vouch for this thread not being made by my alt, then war decc my alt corp featured in the screenshot with ABP to make it all look legit.
You busted me.
Oh I believe the scam went down. But the timing is just to good Kublai. The OP and your response are 3min apart. You said that was because it had just happend, but the OP was an hour and half after your SS time. the cross posting in GD and warfare and tactics started as soon as you start posting here again.
Come on be out with it, you got 3bil. There is no reason to use an Alt to come on here and start the chest beating thread for you.
*edit* I do see the irony in posting this with an alt however unlike the scammed I know Kublais rep.
Knowing Kublai, he sat there staring at C&P waiting for an hour for this guy to post, complaining about being scammed and crying about it so that he could pounce and make fun of the guy. When that didn't happen, Kublai improvised and made his own post since he wasnt getting the news coverage he wanted. Thats probably why he was 'up so late'. 
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:32:00 -
[126]
I think it's pretty obvious I have no need to create threads about myself, dumb newbs, npc alts etc sort that quite well without my help.
It's nice to see the trolls out in strenght though, I guess you're a sort of scammers too so kudos.
Win 2B isk |

Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:38:00 -
[127]
Originally by: kublai I think it's pretty obvious I have no need to create threads about myself, dumb newbs, npc alts etc sort that quite well without my help.
It's nice to see the trolls out in strenght though, I guess you're a sort of scammers too so kudos.
I just call it like I see it.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:38:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Slim P1kens
Originally by: kublai I think it's pretty obvious I have no need to create threads about myself, dumb newbs, npc alts etc sort that quite well without my help.
It's nice to see the trolls out in strenght though, I guess you're a sort of scammers too so kudos.
I just call it like I see it.
I could sell you some cheap glasses.
Win 2B isk |

Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:40:00 -
[129]
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Slim P1kens
Originally by: kublai I think it's pretty obvious I have no need to create threads about myself, dumb newbs, npc alts etc sort that quite well without my help.
It's nice to see the trolls out in strenght though, I guess you're a sort of scammers too so kudos.
I just call it like I see it.
I could sell you some cheap glasses.
would probably be a scam, they wouldn't have lenses in them
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:41:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Slim P1kens
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Slim P1kens
Originally by: kublai I think it's pretty obvious I have no need to create threads about myself, dumb newbs, npc alts etc sort that quite well without my help.
It's nice to see the trolls out in strenght though, I guess you're a sort of scammers too so kudos.
I just call it like I see it.
I could sell you some cheap glasses.
would probably be a scam, they wouldn't have lenses in them
wouldn't make a difference, you see only what you wish to see so they might aswell have glasses made of wood.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:45:00 -
[131]
Oh god the tears here are just beautiful. Some idiot pays cash in advance to a known scammer (apparently without bothering to do any research or even negotiate much of a contract), and you're all lining up to support him? This is Darwin at work, pure and simple.
BTW: it's hilarious how many people don't bother to read "we're not a merc corp, and don't care if you refuse to hire us" before posting. -----------
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Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:50:00 -
[132]
Originally by: kublai
wouldn't make a difference, you see only what you wish to see so they might aswell have glasses made of wood.
Hmm eco-friendly glasses...I bid 3bil. Do you take checks?
still the fact remains. you are the op.
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.31 23:58:00 -
[133]
Simple answer for those who do not wish to go back five pages. Kublai was contacted to provide Merc Services (which they normally do not do) against other Mercs who were their allies. OP provided 3B ISK up front, at which point, Kublai invited the Target/Ally CEO to the chat, to expose the OP's stupidity.
ITT: The Winner of the 2B Griefers' Challenge, who, it turns out, is the Event's actual co-ordinator.
o7 Kublai. I bow to your scamming skills.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:03:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Simple answer for those who do not wish to go back five pages. Kublai was contacted to provide Merc Services (which they normally do not do) against other Mercs who were their allies. OP provided 3B ISK up front, at which point, Kublai invited the Target/Ally CEO to the chat, to expose the OP's stupidity.
ITT: The Winner of the 2B Griefers' Challenge, who, it turns out, is the Event's actual co-ordinator.
o7 Kublai. I bow to your scamming skills.
Few corrections, I contacted him, because I thought it was another attempt to hire mercs at me (there has been several lately), we're also not allied with ABP but I have respect for them and got friends there, so when I find out what the guy is looking to do...I can make a profit and do good for a friend.
Win win.
I have to admit I don't much care about the morals of the affair.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:11:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Slim P1kens
still the fact remains. you are the op.
I see you are not familiar with the word "fact"
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Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:17:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Lady Karma
Originally by: Slim P1kens
still the fact remains. you are the op.
I see you are not familiar with the word "fact"
Fact - Kublai used an alt just like you and me to post the OP with.
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Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:19:00 -
[137]
I support this message.... lol to the OP
AoW keep on keepin on. ;-p ---- People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
Quote:
They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:20:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Slim P1kens
Originally by: Lady Karma
Originally by: Slim P1kens
still the fact remains. you are the op.
I see you are not familiar with the word "fact"
Fact - Kublai used an alt just like you and me to post the OP with.
Facts are based on evidence, feel free to demonstrate.
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Jonas Barcal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:20:00 -
[139]
Meh it's not like it's a lot of ISK. |

Slim P1kens
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:22:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Slim P1kens on 01/01/2009 00:24:28
Originally by: Lady Karma
Originally by: Slim P1kens
Originally by: Lady Karma
Originally by: Slim P1kens
still the fact remains. you are the op.
I see you are not familiar with the word "fact"
Fact - Kublai used an alt just like you and me to post the OP with.
Facts are based on evidence, feel free to demonstrate.
I have, read through the thread.
here I will save you the trouble.
Originally by: Slim P1kens Edited by: Slim P1kens on 31/12/2008 23:27:09
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Chymaerus OP is obviously Kublai. This entire thread is the result of one middle school aged mentality strutting around beating his chest for achieving what amounts to petty theft and generating drama between his own alts to draw more attention to his less than massive accomplishment.
Yes its all really an elaborate practical joke where I first created a multi-gaming organisation, then faked a convo, paid Dave Tehsulei to join the joke and vouch for this thread not being made by my alt, then war decc my alt corp featured in the screenshot with ABP to make it all look legit.
You busted me.
Oh I believe the scam went down. But the timing is just to good Kublai. The OP and your response are 3min apart. You said that was because it had just happend, but the OP was an hour and half after your SS time. the cross posting in GD and warfare and tactics started as soon as you start posting here again.
Come on be out with it, you got 3bil. There is no reason to use an Alt to come on here and start the chest beating thread for you.
*edit* I do see the irony in posting this with an alt however unlike the scammed I know Kublais rep.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:28:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Slim P1kens
I have, read through the thread.
I too have read it. Baseless accusations are easy to throw around, I could say that it was you that lost 3bil out of stupidity, and are now posting with an alt.
Bottom line is, you lost 3bil, does it matter who the op is?
(you see what I did there)
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Eudamidas
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.01 00:43:00 -
[142]
oh ~ Woke up, got myself a gun |

Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:03:00 -
[143]
Moral of the story Bren is hire REAL MERCS in future it's obvious kublai doesnt know the meaning of being a merc but is an excellent scammer at least everyone knows not to hire a-war for anything ever again. lol
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Lorzion
Minmatar IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:08:00 -
[144]
WTS kublai's alt's corpse 10 mil.
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Fintroll
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:11:00 -
[145]
If any of you dummies believe this impacts Kublai's or Art of War's reputation in a manner we find undesirable you are deluding yourselves.
We're not mercenaries, and even if we were and there was a sticky thread in every forum that said 'KUBLAI IS A SCAMMER' in the title, he would still swindle some ignorant carebear every week. He gets at least two a week as things stand.
Art of War is Recruiting |

Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:13:00 -
[146]
Originally by: kublai what suprises me though is how fast supposedly honest and kind people who accuse me of being horrible irl due to my actions, turn to wanting to burn my unborn children on stakes.
Actually Kublai, you are an a**hole in real life.
To anyone interested read the link above. Shows Kublai being the same jerk he is ingame as well as out of game. Of course we'll see his brigade of "loyal fans" explaining this one away... Should be interesting to say the least .
I love C&P hypocrisy \o/
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:17:00 -
[147]
No link is needed to understand what an a hole Matrix Skye is in RL
Run away little troll
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:22:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 01/01/2009 01:24:47 ^^ Yes, that completely invalidated my post. Well done.
Even though I have no qualms about admitting I troll trolls (like yourself, might I add), care in pointing out exactly where my claim is false? 
You griefers are teh funneh with your hypocrisy. "I'm only an a-hole in game, not in real life". Right .
Again, to anyone interested in learning a lil' bit about what Kublai is like in real life, click the link above.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:24:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Matrix Skye ^^ Yes, that completely invalidated my post . Well done.
You managed that all by yourself.
Troll is as Troll does
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:27:00 -
[150]
Click on the link and tell me exactly where I'm wrong. Or you could just divert from the issue as you do now .
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:30:00 -
[151]
Isn't there a single Kublai die-hard "fan" willing to explain this wonderful person's real life actions on the link above?
Didn't think so. Happy New Year.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:32:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Isn't there a single Kublai die-hard "fan" willing to explain this wonderful person's real life actions on the link above?
Didn't think so. Happy New Year.
No one cares what you think troll. Don't worry, you got another hundred threads to spam.
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Footfist Headknocker
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:33:00 -
[153]
Get a chatroom guys. |

Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:35:00 -
[154]
Hey Kublai,
You're welcome in coming by and explaining how you're different from your in-game persona in real life. With all the calls for me to be a man and post with my main, you would think that a-holes like you would man up and cut the hypocrisy. 
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Steintz
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:40:00 -
[155]
Originally by: kublai two top mercenary corps
I silently LOL
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr Fractured Core
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:46:00 -
[156]
...reminds me of the time I facilitated a wire-transfer for a legitimate Nigerian businessman.  ~-~-~-~-~ -[WillChat4ISK]- I can be the handsome Amarr space captain. You can be the helpless Minmatar slave girl. |

kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:49:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Hey Kublai,
You're welcome in coming by and explaining how you're different from your in-game persona in real life. With all the calls for me to be a man and post with my main, you would think that a-holes like you would man up and cut the hypocrisy. 
I think this will clear up this entire missunderstanding
Win 2B isk |

Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 01:53:00 -
[158]
Exactly what I expected from you. Now carry on spewing **** on how you're actually a "nice guy" in real life.
Your hypocrisy is amusing.
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.01 02:00:00 -
[159]
6 pages? trolls on steroids? -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 02:31:00 -
[160]
Lies and slander ! I can confirm that Kublai *does* undock from station.
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Lorzion
Minmatar IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.01 02:56:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 01/01/2009 01:20:41
Originally by: kublai what suprises me though is how fast supposedly honest and kind people who accuse me of being horrible irl due to my actions, turn to wanting to burn my unborn children on stakes.
Actually Kublai, you are an a**hole in real life.
To anyone interested read the link above. Shows Kublai being the same jerk he is ingame as well as out of game. Of course we'll see his brigade of "loyal fans" explaining this one away... Should be interesting to say the least .
I love C&P hypocrisy \o/
Edi and PS: Read further ahead down the above thread. He isn't just spewing drunken 1-liners. He goes on a role to insult and disrespect. But really, it's not like he's an a-hole in real lif... Oh wai...
I Rofled.
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Pax Leo
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Posted - 2009.01.01 02:58:00 -
[162]
Now I can help you make this wrong to a right. I know both BoB and Goons. Just send me 2B and i will make wardec happen and bring destruction to your targets. Dont be fooled by my alt here - I know all the big cohonas! - I promise.
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Pax Mentor
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Posted - 2009.01.01 03:01:00 -
[163]
Kublai who ??
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Sigul Siento
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Posted - 2009.01.01 03:27:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Hey Kublai,
You're welcome in coming by and explaining how you're different from your in-game persona in real life. With all the calls for me to be a man and post with my main, you would think that a-holes like you would man up and cut the hypocrisy. 
It's not hypocrisy, just another scam 
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Psychotic Penguin
Gallente The Professional's Club The Second Genesis
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Posted - 2009.01.01 04:33:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Sol'Kanar
I get the feeling most people don't read a thread before posting in it. :)
Who would? After all you only risk ending up looking incredible stupid. ____________________________________________________ Reality is for those who have no imagination. |

Captain Gorlok
Caldari Apeshit Assassins
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Posted - 2009.01.01 04:59:00 -
[166]
Be warned about this bunch also, they are giving mercs a real bad name.
Vulture - Redback96 they killed him right after he joined the corp
attackers were
Captain Lawdogg Commander Predator Muloch Deepest Killers mikeh24 Stilsman
Name: Stiltsman Security: -0.4 Corp: Ape**** Assassins Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Phobos Weapon: Phobos Damage Done: 17028 Name: Captin Lawdogg (laid the final blow) Security: -2.0 Corp: Ape**** Assassins Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Megathron Weapon: Neutron Blaster Cannon II Damage Done: 16237
They recruit peeps, then declare us as a spy and kill us while were are in their corp.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 05:28:00 -
[167]
* Blind accusations - check * Posting with an alt - check * Getting 6 pages of drama in few hours - check Posts like this is a win for everyone. 
I need to fire up my popcorn machine again I see. Beer and 'corn on the house.
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Vibora BR
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2009.01.01 05:45:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Vibora BR on 01/01/2009 05:50:00
Originally by: kublai Welcome to the Own Zone
As the first link I posted would tip you off, this is the guy seeking multiple high sec mercs on the forum now.
I've had quite a few people try to hire mercs on me the last few days, so i've been keeping tabs on who hires who to kill who, this among other things meant I contacted this chap to see if this thread was meant for me.
As it turns out, it was not, when contacting the OP he wanted me to destroy Atomic Battle Penguins and another mercenary corp whom I wont name until i've spoken to their CEO (he wasn't available yesterday so I won't name them just yet).
Well this is just rubbish I think, I like Dave, and eXtas has a sweet bum, disrespect like this? no way!
I was going to de-mask the alt and prevent any harm coming to innocent sweet Dave and corp X.
Now to get his main, I needed leverage, isk is a good leverage I thought so I set about trying to convince this guy that I could crush abp like they were nothing along with the other corporation, it takes me about four hours of convincing (yes, you think I talk too much, but being able to spam bull**** for four hours continuasly is quite profitable I assure you).
In the end he wires me 3b isk with the promise of 2b on completion, after recieving the isk (this bit is important for those trying to learn technique here) I tell him that I need to know his main, as we work on the promise of more after the job, I tell him only I need know, not even my CEO's will hear about it.
Now this guy is really keen on keeping his identity secret, and frankly most people would be if they wanted to destroy two top mercenary corps, but I have 3 billion of his isk and at this point he can't do anything but agree.
Que the events in the above screenshot, alas he left the chat as soon as this happened so we didn't get any exciting drama...apart from this.
Did I scam him? hell yes I did, and i'll scam you too if you try to mess with people I like!
I valiantly threw myself infront of Dave using my body as a shield to block that evil 3 billion isk of blood money, because that's the type of nice guy I am.
As for the above scamming accusations....trust me, Dave is not cut out for scamming, murder yes, scamming, don't make me laugh.
Am I a scammer?
Hell no, I think we can all agree that I am a humble and legitimate miner scraping his way on the bare minimum required to sustain himself in this fine and noble game.
Now the morale of this story is, don't **** with mercenaries, someone will find out and they'll come own you.
ABP are as we speak at war with these gents, why that is you'll have to talk to Dave about.
Gentlemen, I hope you enjoy my tale, I had a ton of fun making it.
Love Kublai
No doubt, you are a scammer and I would never hire your corp!!!!!!   
3Bi for the whole corp reputation, you sold it very cheap 
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Tai Paktu
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.01 06:06:00 -
[169]
Thread delivers. 
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PsychoBones
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2009.01.01 07:46:00 -
[170]
kublai, was the other corp by any chance PRONS? We just finished a war with these guys.
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Darwin's Market
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Posted - 2009.01.01 10:52:00 -
[171]
anyone who hires art of fail is fail
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Nova Satar
Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.01 11:13:00 -
[172]
just read your thread link Matrix.
What a *****. He is clearly a fat **** too.
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Yana Kaar
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.01 12:54:00 -
[173]
if anything is needed to be said:
Kublai: you get the job done (y) AoW: nice 
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.01 13:14:00 -
[174]
I'm noticing a trend.
Posters from respected mercenary/pvp corporations say well done Kublai
Angry newb alts and random people from npc corps say Kublai you're the son of satan!11
Look slike + rep to me <3
Win 2B isk |

Nova Satar
Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.01 13:33:00 -
[175]
Originally by: kublai I'm noticing a trend.
Posters from respected mercenary/pvp corporations say well done Kublai
Angry newb alts and random people from npc corps say Kublai you're the son of satan!11
Look slike + rep to me <3
Not really
however i do agree that everyone who posts with an alt should have their opinions deleted
Im lazy and didnt read your wall of text, and i just dont think what you did was anything special, your just turning a molehill into a mountain by "look at me look at me' posting.
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.01 15:40:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Click on the link and tell me exactly where I'm wrong. Or you could just divert from the issue as you do now .
****'s funny
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seliana tanis
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 15:52:00 -
[177]
Awar scammers? Never!
Proud to be part of the 99% of nano pilots with T2 rigs and snake sets!
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Mhorbaine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.01 16:02:00 -
[178]
hmm depends tbh, i'm still undecided...
hiring a known scammer who revels in the tricks he pulls off to do anything with isk upfront is just complete fail on the OP's part... tis almost like sayin to tyraxx here run my alliance pls, btw we have these moms at x location without pilots so stay away please :P
but i'm also veering towards wondering how this will affect future work for AWar, you're not full time mercs but you do take on jobs every now n again (by your own admittance earlier)... how is a potential client to know when the jobs real or fake... quite a conundrum for em... ahh well since i dont use mercs i dont care...
nice way to make 3b isk...
still livin out of MH? might pop by n say hi heh
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.01 16:09:00 -
[179]
Just moved back home to Uemon (from our old HQ a whooping 4 jumps away), swing by and say hi :)
Win 2B isk |

Carpet grinder
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:02:00 -
[180]
If this is true then it is a waste of a perfectly good Merc alliance. We had these guys contracted on us and they were Very good pilots (although a bit too smacky) Bottom line is if you dont want the contract you dont take the isk. This probably has just ruined your names as mercs and for what 3 billion? Pathetic TBH. R.I.P Exahalted you were a good merc alliance while you lasted... perhaps pirating/griefing is next on the cards?
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Kurann
Amarr Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:05:00 -
[181]
/me tips my hat to kublai
well done... --------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Ruze "If you like playing EvE, but don't like to pvp ... you don't really like playing EvE, do you?"
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Jonas Barcal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:08:00 -
[182]
They ain't mercs |

Kai Dorfman
SkillzKillz United For 0rder
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:12:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Oh god the tears here are just beautiful. Some idiot pays cash in advance to a known scammer (apparently without bothering to do any research or even negotiate much of a contract), and you're all lining up to support him? This is Darwin at work, pure and simple.
BTW: it's hilarious how many people don't bother to read "we're not a merc corp, and don't care if you refuse to hire us" before posting.
Funny when they were hired on us they were calling themselves mercs... as Carpet said pretty good fighters and very smacky. They kept telling us how they were mercs and offering us contracts after... so yes they did consider themselves mercs. GL getting a contract out of anyone anytime in the future. 3 billion for your rep ROFLMAO.
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Avan Sercedos
Shockworks
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:14:00 -
[184]
Originally by: kublai Posters from respected mercenary/pvp corporations say well done Kublai
Shockworks is a respected pvp corporation? <3 Cheers. |

Faekurias
Black Legion Command Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:47:00 -
[185]
*popcorn and wizards hat* ------------------
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Kaar
Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:50:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Carpet grinder
R.I.P Exahalted you were a good merc alliance while you lasted... perhaps pirating/griefing is next on the cards?
I'm lolling.
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Kai page
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:55:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Carpet grinder
R.I.P Exahalted you were a good merc alliance while you lasted... perhaps pirating/griefing is next on the cards?
I'm lolling.
me too, you never were "good" <3
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Jericho thePure
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.01 18:03:00 -
[188]
All you had to do is do a bit of research on who you were talking to and you would have found he was a known scammer (and quite vocal about it). So basically you owned yourself end of debate. I could use 3 billion isk so why not just send me your isk next time so you do not make a fool of yourself on the forums.  ------------------------------------------------- - Sig
"All those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain...... time to die ..." |

Buhhdust Princess
Cold Blooded Killers
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Posted - 2009.01.01 18:08:00 -
[189]
first in OMGWTFLOLUGOTOWNED thread.
Btw, you can trust mercenary corporations. BUT you can not trust those that you try to backstab. fk with them and ur dead meat mate.
Mercs are nasty! (well most of us) and if you are looking for a corp u can trust, try CBK TODAY!!!! <3
my input. done -buhh
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Frozen Light
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2009.01.01 18:41:00 -
[190]
To be fair, we did actually complete some contracts when i was still in a-war.
And yes, they can still be trusted. But if you want to do business with them, pick the right answer when kublai starts the convo with line like this: "After this conversation we are either friends or you are dead."
... Pick the right one and youre ok :) ---
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.01 18:43:00 -
[191]
7 pages...and gj A-WAR, this will however influence your WELL BUILT MERCENARY ALLIANCE REPUTATION -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.01.01 21:13:00 -
[192]
matrix skye: you do realize you're just kublai's alt, right?
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Archonus
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.01 22:43:00 -
[193]
I AM A SCAMMER. DO NOT HIRE ME.
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Vibora BR
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2009.01.02 02:43:00 -
[194]
Originally by: seliana tanis Awar scammers? Never!
Who kills is a killer.
Whos scams is a scammer, easy!
They are scammer when the hold people like Kubai on their corp!
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Temujin Ambaghai
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:07:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Vibora BR
Originally by: seliana tanis Awar scammers? Never!
Who kills is a killer.
Whos scams is a scammer, easy!
They are scammer when the hold people like Kubai on their corp!
someones sarcasm detector needs an overhaul 
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Vibora BR
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:19:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Temujin Ambaghai
Originally by: Vibora BR
Originally by: seliana tanis Awar scammers? Never!
Who kills is a killer.
Whos scams is a scammer, easy!
They are scammer when the hold people like Kubai on their corp!
someones sarcasm detector needs an overhaul 
LOL, you got me.
But I still think interesting that they believe their reputation is still OK.
Imagine, you hire them. If they like what you asked them to do, they do, if not, they steal from you!
INSANE!!!!
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:20:00 -
[197]
Edited by: kublai on 02/01/2009 03:20:28
Originally by: Vibora BR
Originally by: seliana tanis Awar scammers? Never!
Who kills is a killer.
Whos scams is a scammer, easy!
They are scammer when the hold people like Kubai on their corp!
Hey, I got an idea, let's all mass eve-mail A-Wars CEO and DEMMAND THEY KICK HIM YEAH!
Edit: Oh snap, posted with the wrong char 
Win 2B isk |

Vibora BR
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:30:00 -
[198]
Originally by: kublai Edited by: kublai on 02/01/2009 03:20:28
Originally by: Vibora BR
Originally by: seliana tanis Awar scammers? Never!
Who kills is a killer.
Whos scams is a scammer, easy!
They are scammer when the hold people like Kubai on their corp!
Hey, I got an idea, let's all mass eve-mail A-Wars CEO and DEMMAND THEY KICK HIM YEAH!
Edit: Oh snap, posted with the wrong char 
Why they should kick you?
The reputation damage is already done, maybe you still can help them running missions. 
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Djan Anaplian
Gallente Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:48:00 -
[199]
Originally by: kublai Just moved back home to Uemon (from our old HQ a whooping 4 jumps away), swing by and say hi :)
It's taking a while 
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:50:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Djan Anaplian
Originally by: kublai Just moved back home to Uemon (from our old HQ a whooping 4 jumps away), swing by and say hi :)
It's taking a while 
Shut up and get back to work slave *cracks whip* I want my exotic dancers moved by sunrise!
Win 2B isk |

Djan Anaplian
Gallente Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:51:00 -
[201]
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Djan Anaplian
Originally by: kublai Just moved back home to Uemon (from our old HQ a whooping 4 jumps away), swing by and say hi :)
It's taking a while 
Shut up and get back to work slave *cracks whip* I want my exotic dancers moved by sunrise!
*grumbles about the ****ing POS.
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Avan Sercedos
Shockworks
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Posted - 2009.01.02 03:56:00 -
[202]
Originally by: kublai Shut up and get back to work slave *cracks whip* I want my exotic dancers moved by sunrise!
Did you scam me out of them Cheers. |

Stonie Bandit
Caldari 8lack Wing
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Posted - 2009.01.02 04:42:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Concorduck 7 pages...and gj A-WAR, this will however influence your WELL BUILT MERCENARY ALLIANCE REPUTATION
Already explained in so many posts in these 7 pages. They are no mercs so no reputation is harmed.
Nice story to read when bored at work.
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Celestal
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Posted - 2009.01.02 05:12:00 -
[204]
Originally by: kublai
Without me and those like me, this game would not exist,
seriously kid you really should climb down out of your ass
not only is it it a health hazard but you really need to see some daylight
all you are really is an attention hoe , 99% of your posts are simply " look at me , please please look at me " zero content
you really dont contribute much if anything to the game , have you even undocked in the last 12 months ?
art of war arent mercs , i mean they arent really pvp ers , my war experiences of them are station hugging smacktards unwilling to fight unless overwhelming firepower on their side .
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Fintroll
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 06:09:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Celestal
Originally by: kublai
Without me and those like me, this game would not exist,
seriously kid you really should climb down out of your ass
not only is it it a health hazard but you really need to see some daylight
all you are really is an attention hoe , 99% of your posts are simply " look at me , please please look at me " zero content
you really dont contribute much if anything to the game , have you even undocked in the last 12 months ?
art of war arent mercs , i mean they arent really pvp ers , my war experiences of them are station hugging smacktards unwilling to fight unless overwhelming firepower on their side .
THIS
Art of War is Recruiting |

Commander Predator
Apeshit Assassins
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Posted - 2009.01.02 06:16:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Captain Gorlok Be warned about this bunch also, they are giving mercs a real bad name.
Vulture - Redback96 they killed him right after he joined the corp
attackers were
Captain Lawdogg Commander Predator Muloch Deepest Killers mikeh24 Stilsman
Name: Stiltsman Security: -0.4 Corp: Ape**** Assassins Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Phobos Weapon: Phobos Damage Done: 17028 Name: Captin Lawdogg (laid the final blow) Security: -2.0 Corp: Ape**** Assassins Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Megathron Weapon: Neutron Blaster Cannon II Damage Done: 16237
They recruit peeps, then declare us as a spy and kill us while were are in their corp.
LIES
he nearly killed our falcon during a war
he was never on a killmail out of 50 killmails
he was never shot at by the enemy
he declared he was leaving the day after the wardec lifted
^^^^spy^^^^
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EinaruS
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2009.01.02 06:43:00 -
[207]
for 3 billion we will give them art of war guys a thrashing. Noone will ever say i am dishonest as you'll find out if you send the isk. -
A finger...especially the middle one, is worth more than any amount of isk |

vile56
RillaCorp Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.02 07:15:00 -
[208]
**** kublai he stole joet from me then abandoned him in a dumpster, i never would have
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Vandamsel
Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 09:29:00 -
[209]
hats off kublai, very nice 
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 10:37:00 -
[210]
I am not on the list so you can safely send me your isk for safekeeping.
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EvilPhog
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.01.02 14:47:00 -
[211]
kublai <3 emophog?  
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 16:15:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Celestal
Originally by: kublai
Without me and those like me, this game would not exist,
seriously kid you really should climb down out of your ass
not only is it it a health hazard but you really need to see some daylight
all you are really is an attention hoe , 99% of your posts are simply " look at me , please please look at me " zero content
you really dont contribute much if anything to the game , have you even undocked in the last 12 months ?
art of war arent mercs , i mean they arent really pvp ers , my war experiences of them are station hugging smacktards unwilling to fight unless overwhelming firepower on their side .
We so often do battle with the brave and valiant members of the Republic Military School, frau troll.
Win 2B isk |

Celestal
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:08:00 -
[213]
Originally by: kublai
We so often do battle with the brave and valiant members of the Republic Military School, frau troll.
are you really as stupid as this statement makes you appear ?
or would you like to buy a clue ?
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:13:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Celestal
Originally by: kublai
We so often do battle with the brave and valiant members of the Republic Military School, frau troll.
are you really as stupid as this statement makes you appear ?
or would you like to buy a clue ?
You know what'd be cool, if you logged on your main and said that.
Win 2B isk |

Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:15:00 -
[215]
Ah yes, e-honor and all dat.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:21:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Matrix Skye Ah yes, e-honor and all dat.
No, so I can hire mercenaries on you.
Win 2B isk |

Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:22:00 -
[217]
But I thought we were having fun .
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:23:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Matrix Skye But I thought we were having fun .
Hiring mercs on people is fun, and good for the economy.
Win 2B isk |

Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:25:00 -
[219]
Edited by: Matrix Skye on 02/01/2009 17:26:23
It's not that difficult to find out whose alt I belong to :). I use this same toon to keep my main safe from gatecamps. You just have to put in a lil bit of work. 's all :).
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:27:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Matrix Skye It's not that difficult to find out whose alt I belong to :). I use this same toon to keep my main safe. You just have to put in a lil bit of work. 's all :).
You're not worth any work, but it's not like i'm anything to be afraid of right?
So just hop on your main and give me a little wave, then i'll no doubt cower in fear etc.
Win 2B isk |

Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:31:00 -
[221]
So basically you want me served on a platter and fed to you intravenously?  I use an alt as a... What is it you griefer types call it when you warp away from danger?... Ah yes, a "strategic move", it's not cowardice. Don't want the silly nilly pirate carebears griefing my alliance over my own opinions.
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Ulasim
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.02 19:08:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Matrix Skye So basically you want me served on a platter and fed to you intravenously?  I use an alt as a... What is it you griefer types call it when you warp away from danger?... Ah yes, a "strategic move", it's not cowardice. Don't want the silly nilly pirate carebears griefing my alliance over my own opinions.
Most people call that running like hell cause they don't want to die. Most people fit tackle to prevent this problem
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Avan Sercedos
Shockworks
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Posted - 2009.01.02 19:58:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Ulasim Most people fit tackle to prevent this problem
ITT: nerf hictors
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CCP Navigator
C C P

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Posted - 2009.01.03 15:49:00 -
[224]
Thread has now run its course.
Locked.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Games, Email / Netfang
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