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Murina Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:50:00 - [91] Originally by: Amira Shadowsong And you wonder why people are complaining? Most of the pro ecm squad seems to think it's perfectly fine. Originally by: Amira Shadowsong Oh the irony... Couldn't of put it better myself...
Amira Shadowsong Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:52:00 - [92] Originally by: Murina Originally by: Amira Shadowsong And you wonder why people are complaining? Most of the pro ecm squad seems to think it's perfectly fine. Originally by: Amira Shadowsong Oh the irony... Couldn't of put it better myself... Oh the irony...again
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:52:00 - [93] Originally by: Amira Shadowsong And you wonder why people are complaining? Most of the pro ecm squad seems to think it's perfectly fine. I guess I'm in the pro ECM squad but I've always hated this stupid mechanic. Same with ECM drones, you can just scoop and redeploy until you get a jam off and they can almost not be killed that way. Why dont you invest some of your forum warfare energy in trying to get these ruled as exploit? You'd have my vote.
Murina Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:55:00 - [94] Originally by: Amira Shadowsong TROLL ....
Amira Shadowsong Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:19:00 - [95] Originally by: Murina Originally by: Amira Shadowsong TROLL .... Oh the irony. 10/10 for content in your post. GJ.
Amira Shadowsong Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:20:00 - [96] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Why dont you invest some of your forum warfare energy in trying to get these ruled as exploit? You'd have my vote. Because I'm gonna play another sandbox mmo soon and I can't be arsed. Why? Because ccp wants to make money from falcon alt accounts. If I've learned anything in life it is to never put up a fight against financial intrest, you'll always end up miserable and never get anywhere.
Murina Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:41:00 - [97] Originally by: Amira Shadowsong Originally by: Lilith Velkor Why dont you invest some of your forum warfare energy in trying to get these ruled as exploit? You'd have my vote. Because I'm gonna play another sandbox mmo soon and I can't be arsed. Why? Because i suck and although im bored with this game i still am inclined to pay a monthly fee just to be a bitter troll.
Captain Plumb Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:01:00 - [98] Apocalypse now.
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:03:00 - [99] Yeah, nerf Apocs! Proud member of RZR - Decadence.
Franga Gristle Industries	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:16:00 - [100] Originally by: Elliot Reid stuff I'm sure you wrote something intelligent, but my eye was drawn to your sig. I love that woman. Honestly.
Xori Ruscuv Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:19:00 - [101] Originally by: Franga Originally by: Elliot Reid stuff I'm sure you wrote something intelligent, but my eye was drawn to your sig. I love that woman. Honestly. Huh? She looks like a frikkin' racoon!
Xiaodown coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.01.14 23:07:00 - [102] Originally by: Solid Prefekt Edited by: Solid Prefekt on 14/01/2009 17:15:52 Originally by: Ben Avery Which ship and setup is best for taking out enemy Falcons when you're in a roaming gang My idea is a Vagabond with an ECCM. The idea is to quickly zoom around and take out the Falcons first. This made me laugh. Before QR I actually caught a few Falcons (that screwed up). Now, though I have completely given up trying to burn towards a Falcon. Before if everyone would target the falcon it would run, now though it does not care unless you have a Sniper battleship in your roaming gang. So, that is the solution to your small/med roaming gangs, just bring a Sniper fitted BS with ECCM. Bring 3 to be safe. Right, and that's the problem - you have to be sniper fit. Which means, if you get into an up close slugfest, you're going to get creamed by other ships that are close range because of lack of dps and tracking. Hence all the RRBS+Falcon gangs.
GatoBasque	Posted - 2009.01.15 06:51:00 - [103] Worth looking at: http://bulg.otel.net/kb/index.php?a=kill_related&kll_id=50057
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.15 06:57:00 - [104] Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Originally by: Franga Originally by: Elliot Reid stuff I'm sure you wrote something intelligent, but my eye was drawn to your sig. I love that woman. Honestly. Huh? She looks like a frikkin' racoon! your dumb __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Noskill McCheese	Posted - 2009.01.15 08:10:00 - [105] Edited by: Noskill McCheese on 15/01/2009 08:10:53 I just had a great idea. Falcon's dont have pods, if you kill one the pilot gets an immediate ticket on the clone express. I take it back, this idea isn't great at all. It's frackin awesome.
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.15 08:24:00 - [106] If you really need something that does damage your best bet is probably a 79 sensor strenght cerb. Unless that falcon has 3 gravmetric jammers it would need its full rack on it to keep it from not firing. And 2 salvoes of heavy missiles usually equal dead falcon. On the other hand a cerb like that is rather papery.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.	Posted - 2009.01.15 08:55:00 - [107] Originally by: Hyveres If you really need something that does damage your best bet is probably a 79 sensor strenght cerb. Unless that falcon has 3 gravmetric jammers it would need its full rack on it to keep it from not firing. And 2 salvoes of heavy missiles usually equal dead falcon. On the other hand a cerb like that is rather papery. Cerbs are pretty papery anyway. They don't have the grid for any kind of tank unless you're fitting AML II.
baltec1 R.U.S.T. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.15 10:23:00 - [108] Originally by: Vele Nori Originally by: Ratchman The stealth bomber tactic does work. It often makes them disengage, which is usually enough to redress the balance. The answer to the Apoc and Rokh comment above is simply to fit more ECCM to Rokhs and Apocs. It is a balancing act, but that's what the game is all about. The OP was asking for setups to kill Falcons from which the best ones imho are the battleship sniper setups, especially Apocs. Only problem with them is that they are not suitable for small roaming gang type of pvp where Falcons often have the most effect. You can of course gather enough stealth bombers together and hope the Falcon pilot sticks around when he sees all 4-5 of them locking onto him. In a small gang combat this would also mean that 40-60% of your gang are anti-falcon stealth bomber ships which raises other problems. He wont have time to react if your flying the bombers correctly. Bombers also serve other uses for gangs and their very high alpha is dangerous to any ship cruiser size up.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.15 10:31:00 - [109] Edited by: TimMc on 15/01/2009 10:31:55 Originally by: Janu Hull A Glass Cannon Sniper Rokh with ECCM. Who said it needs to be Glass? [Rokh, Fleet] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Signal Amplifier II Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II ECCM - Gravimetric II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Hobgoblin II x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 Suppose you could specialise it for falcons by dropping LSE for sensor boosters and more ECM, but then it does become glass.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.01.15 11:57:00 - [110] By my lolEFT lolculations, a Golem can just about one-volley a Falcon at any range. With the right lolEFT fit, and once the missiles actually arrive, and assuming that the Falcon isn't tanked. 4x Cruise II (2x CN Paradise, 2x CN Devastator) 2x sensor booster II 3x BCS II 2x Rigour II rigs Standard Crash booster Falcon is assumed to have max skills and be travelling at max base speed, to be getting gang bonuses from maxed character, and to have two electronics superiority rigs fitted. Leave a slight gap between the Paradise and Devastator missile launches. The two Paradises strip the shield and dent the armour; the two Devastator strip the armour and structure. You need the max skills, dual Rigour and Crash to do full damage with Cruise to an aligned Falcon. But it hardly matters, since this is a lolEFT exercise of minimal in-game utility.
Aerin Cloudfayr the evil ones Burning Horizons	Posted - 2009.01.15 15:11:00 - [111] Edited by: Aerin Cloudfayr on 15/01/2009 15:14:10 here's a lofit - that may actually work! [Curse, LOLSniper] Lows: 3x Reactor Control Unit II 1x Small Armor Repairer II Mids: 3x Prototype ECCM I Radar Sensor Cluster 2x Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution 1x Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Highs: 1x Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I 4x Drone Link Augmentor I Rigs: 2xAncillary Current Router I all lvl5, EFT sez: 178km locking range Locks a Falcon in 1.3sec 120km drone range? (45+20+20+20+20...) 75.6km Neut range 156 RADAR sensor points (!!) Lock the Falcon - he can't cloak Falcon can't jam you, so get in range and release the bees! not gonna kill him, but assuredly it'll stop him from messing your gang up. Also, if you do get into Neut range, it'll kill 1200 units of cap each 20seconds - lol he's only got around 1300 cap! fun in the sun!
Amma Kudalkar Amarr SIEGE. The Border Patrol	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:20:00 - [112] I guess a sniping BS is good enough; specifically designed for taking out falcon with resonable buffer tank. Here is what I thought of.... Rokh Anti-Falcon Highs : 8 425 mm rails 2 Mids : 1 sensor Booster 2 (Targeting Range) 3 Gravitometric ECCM 2 2 Tracking Computer 2 (Optimal Range) Lows : 1 Signal Amplifier 2 1 Kinetic Armour Hardner 2 1 Explosive Armour Hardner 2 1 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 2 1 Damage Control 2 Rigs : 3 Trimarks Drones : 5 Mediums or 5 ECM Drones Range 245 km with Iron Charges, 134 Sensor strength and about 100000 EHP. What say M8s

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