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Ancy Denaries
Caldari
Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.01.18 10:55:00 -
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I just knew I would be flamed for that :D
But of course, the so called "IQ" that is so popular is simply a measure for logical intelligence. It doesn't take into account creativity, emotional understanding or any other form of intelligence. Pure, simple, cold logic. Science, if you will.
So of course it's bogus. :D |
Esk Esme
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:17:00 -
[62]
Not the fizzyest pop in the fridge are you  |
Heroldyn
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Posted - 2009.01.18 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Heroldyn on 18/01/2009 14:30:33
in short: yes, people are stupid.
And for every stupid one, there's allways at least one who is even more stupid.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.01.18 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/01/2009 14:45:32
Its not stupidity, its laziness. Its not like they dont realize they are making a loss, they just dont care and want some quick isk. Or maybe they dont keep up with mineral prices, in which case its not stupidity either, its laziness once again.
That you guys classify this as the person being stupid is... stupid.  |
Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Shadow Command
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.18 16:30:00 -
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@OP: Naaaaaah, just you. 
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Morfane
The IMorral MAjority
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Posted - 2009.01.18 16:43:00 -
[66]
 Originally by: Annacron Adaptive
nr1
"Minerals i mine myself are free." lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk...
possible profit=100% \o/
actual profit=90% /o\
wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?!
i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff
The reason for selling at below mineral values is to produce isk from the sale as fast as possible. Yes, one could simply sell the minerals and get 100m isk in 2 days, or make an item with them and sell it for 90m today. In their books, 90m today is better than 100m in 2 days.
Originally by: Annacron Adaptive
nr2
pvpers that are all like "wtf carebear stuffs gimmi more ships to pew pew yarr " (QR features any1 lol?)
omfg?! "eve is a pvp game" "dont play unless you want to pvp"
lets see with this one...
pvp=ships to fly needed
ships=player built
whait.. what? PLAYERS build the ships that pvpers blow up?? eve has huge player driven industry going on? that couldn't possibly be the case could it?
maybe there's a need to develope this industry system just like the combat system?
The reason for this is because of what pvpers do, versus what industrialists do. When pvpers get new ships, it opens up new tactical situations for them to factor into an already complex system, making it more fun. When industrialists get new ships, they get to make isk faster. I imagine CCP thinks that combat can always use more tactical variation, but industrialists make enough isk/hour.
Originally by: Annacron Adaptive
I'm NOT sayng people ARE stupid, just that some people SEEM TO BE stupid (ppl that seem stupid might be it to ofc)
I'm also NOT saying this applys to everyone, i'm just hoping for some one giving me back my faith in players IQ
I won't say i'm not trolling hoping no one will call me a troll 'cause that would make me stupid
Unrelated to my above two points, in general, yes I find the majority of people stupid. |
Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.01.18 17:24:00 -
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Many seem to be--yes.
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Chris Liath
Gallente
The Vorlon Empire
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:22:00 -
[68]
Are people stupid?
Yes.
/thread
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. |
Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:24:00 -
[69]
Stupidity; Its a relative concept. |
Drykor
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:27:00 -
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Gee it all became clear now, thank you, you genius. |
Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari
Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:41:00 -
[71]
didn't read post just the topic.
and yes, yes they are. |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.01.19 01:24:00 -
[72]
Yes people are stupid. Even worse than the ones selling 100k worth of minerals in the form of a 90k ISK item, are the ones trying to "educate" them to sell the item for 100k ISK.
Where's the profit margin for the real traders, if the "minerals I mined are free" crowd get all edumicated?
And you can start a sentence with a conjunction. But it's something you only do for dramatic effect.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.01.19 01:49:00 -
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Aktualy peopel are not stopid. Mabey they macht monii taht way becoz it si fun for them??? At teh end Eve is a gaem you knowe ... |
DasDizzy
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.19 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Aktualy peopel are not stopid. Mabey they macht monii taht way becoz it si fun for them??? At teh end Eve is a gaem you knowe ...
where have you been?
[SIG START]
Everything i say is the view of the rest of the eve cluster, IM THE PRESSDUDE FFS
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Sagacious Z
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.19 02:42:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Sagacious Z on 19/01/2009 02:45:51
Dear Annacron Adaptive:
You asked if "people are stupid". Let us review your post:
Paragraph 1: I, not "i". Can't, not "cant".
Paragraph 2: Cap the "i". Let's, not "lets". Simplified, not "simplifyed". Which, not "wich". Your math fails in a galactic sized manner. 100-90 = 10 / 100 = 10% loss, NOT A 90% GAIN!!!!!! Build, not "biuld". Than, not "then". Cap the "i'm". Cap "i".
Paragraph 3: Give me, not "gimmi". If you desire to use slang, it is "gimmee", not "gimmi". Don't, not "dont". Let's, not "lets". Wait, not "whait". Eve has a huge..., not "Eve has huge". Put a comma after the word "case". Develop, not "develope".
Paragraph 4: Saying, not "sayng". Applies, not "applys". Someone, not "some one". Players' IQ, not "players IQ". Will not, not "won't". I'm, not "i'm". You used a double negative in your last sentence: "won't" + "not trolling". Because, not "'cause".
Once more, your question was if "people are stupid".
It is very possible your answer is imbedded within your own comments regarding your question, so I won't expand on this further.
Regarding "why would a player sell an item at a loss"? If so, that could be a smart move if the goal is to drive a competitor in the trading arena out of the local market and this tactic succeeds. Also, time is precious, and perhaps the player decided the second or two it takes to sell the item is preferable to the additional few seconds it takes to recycle the item.
So, sometimes people are not as stupid as you may believe they are. Then again, read your full original post once more, paying attention to spelling and correct grammar usage, and ask yourself once more this question "if people are stupid".
The EVE community is much smarter than you give them credit for, and new players are excused as there is a steep learning curve. I believe that the GREAT majority of our players can spell well and have basic grammar skills(as we see here in your post, a rare few fail) and the average age is in the 30 year range. There are quite a few players 50 and above, many with vast experience in their careers. I was VP of two Fortune 500 companies, have a BS in Business, I am Oracle Certified, I have a CFP, a 214 license and other advanced educational assets, and I was "smart enough" to be able to retire early so I can play EVE--there are many others like me, with similar backgrounds, who are "not so stupid" as you paint us. I was introduced to the game by a highly intelligent business owner who owns his own successful software development company. CCP and the EVE community should be very proud of the average intelligence of their player base.
Finally, do not criticize your fellow players. Be respectful. Just ask questions without the questioning the intelligence of your fellow players, especially since, in this case, you must have been looking in a mirror when you asked "if people are stupid".
Cheers!
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Valya Dire
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Posted - 2009.01.19 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ranik Sandaris
i think you will find
That your just blew a gasket at a pressure of 9001
Cant believe this got to 3 pages and nobody has done it yet, EvE community slipping.
Fine, i'll do it then.
*clears throat*
THE PRESSURE! IT'S OVER 9000!
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Franga
Gristle Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.19 04:06:00 -
[77]
Best hypocritical thread ever.
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Darkeen
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.19 06:22:00 -
[78]
Yes people are stupid...
Originally by: Annacron Adaptive
I've frequently seen indications of this both on forums(lol) and ingame(lol) and i cant refrain from making this post any longer.
nr1
"Minerals i mine myself are free." lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk...
possible profit=100% \o/
actual profit=90% /o\
wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?!
i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff
nr2
pvpers that are all like "wtf carebear stuffs gimmi more ships to pew pew yarr" (QR features any1 lol?)
omfg?! "eve is a pvp game" "dont play unless you want to pvp"
lets see with this one...
pvp=ships to fly needed
ships=player built
whait.. what? PLAYERS build the ships that pvpers blow up?? eve has huge player driven industry going on? that couldn't possibly be the case could it?
maybe there's a need to develope this industry system just like the combat system?
I'm NOT sayng people ARE stupid, just that some people SEEM TO BE stupid (ppl that seem stupid might be it to ofc)
I'm also NOT saying this applys to everyone, i'm just hoping for some one giving me back my faith in players IQ
I won't say i'm not trolling hoping no one will call me a troll 'cause that would make me stupid
Oh, you mean in the game, yes they are still stupid there too..
Lucky I'm not a people.... |
Ancy Denaries
Caldari
Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.01.19 06:52:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Sagacious Z
*slight win*
Tehee.
Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change. |
Neena Vilrae
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Posted - 2009.01.19 07:33:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sagacious Z
Edited by: Sagacious Z on 19/01/2009 02:49:40
Dear Annacron Adaptive:
Your math fails in a galactic sized manner. 100-90 = 10 / 100 = 10% loss, NOT A 90% GAIN!!!!!!
Someone else attempted to call the OP on this "wrong math", but both of you failed Reading Comprehension. The 100% Profit is selling the minerals at 100K ISK. By selling the manufactured unit for 90K ISK they make 90% of the 100K they could have got had they sold the minerals without building. That is the 90% actual profit when compared to the sell-the-minerals total potential profit.
You guys fail at failing others. |
Jalif
Black Sinisters
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Posted - 2009.01.19 08:57:00 -
[81]
Originally by: sg3s
"Are people stupid"
Yes.
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LongHong Dong
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Posted - 2009.01.19 08:59:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Annacron Adaptive
I've frequently seen indications of this both on forums(lol) and ingame(lol) and i cant refrain from making this post any longer.
nr1
"Minerals i mine myself are free." lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk...
possible profit=100% \o/
actual profit=90% /o\
wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?!
i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff
nr2
pvpers that are all like "wtf carebear stuffs gimmi more ships to pew pew yarr" (QR features any1 lol?)
omfg?! "eve is a pvp game" "dont play unless you want to pvp"
lets see with this one...
pvp=ships to fly needed
ships=player built
whait.. what? PLAYERS build the ships that pvpers blow up?? eve has huge player driven industry going on? that couldn't possibly be the case could it?
maybe there's a need to develope this industry system just like the combat system?
I'm NOT sayng people ARE stupid, just that some people SEEM TO BE stupid (ppl that seem stupid might be it to ofc)
I'm also NOT saying this applys to everyone, i'm just hoping for some one giving me back my faith in players IQ
I won't say i'm not trolling hoping no one will call me a troll 'cause that would make me stupid
You type like a 7 year old with A.D.D |
Heyte
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Posted - 2009.01.19 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Heyte on 19/01/2009 09:18:37
Hey guys, you gotta buy low sell high. That's what a certain fellow always says.
And it always means more then it implies.
Originally by: Heroldyn
Edited by: Heroldyn on 18/01/2009 14:30:33
in short: yes, people are stupid.
And for every stupid one, there's allways at least one who is even more stupid.
While this sentiment would be a great 'don't try so hard!' reminder, you must also consider that for every smart person, it seems that there's even smarter people out there too.
I'm in aw of all the time spent on freeware around here. |
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CCP WeatherMan
C C P
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Posted - 2009.01.19 09:25:00 -
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Locked.
Trolling. |
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