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Annacron Adaptive	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:06:00 - [1] I've frequently seen indications of this both on forums(lol) and ingame(lol) and i cant refrain from making this post any longer. nr1 "Minerals i mine myself are free." lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk... possible profit=100% \o/ actual profit=90% /o\ wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?! i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff nr2 pvpers that are all like "wtf carebear stuffs gimmi more ships to pew pew yarr" (QR features any1 lol?) omfg?! "eve is a pvp game" "dont play unless you want to pvp" lets see with this one... pvp=ships to fly needed ships=player built whait.. what? PLAYERS build the ships that pvpers blow up?? eve has huge player driven industry going on? that couldn't possibly be the case could it? maybe there's a need to develope this industry system just like the combat system? I'm NOT sayng people ARE stupid, just that some people SEEM TO BE stupid (ppl that seem stupid might be it to ofc) I'm also NOT saying this applys to everyone, i'm just hoping for some one giving me back my faith in players IQ I won't say i'm not trolling hoping no one will call me a troll 'cause that would make me stupid
monkfish2345	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:07:00 - [2] Edited by: monkfish2345 on 16/01/2009 12:07:31 posting reading topic only. yes. oh and first :P
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:08:00 - [3] Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony!
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:09:00 - [4] Yes.
Polly Prissypantz Dingleberry Appreciation Society	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:10:00 - [5] Yes
Confuzer Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:13:00 - [6] Edited by: Confuzer on 16/01/2009 12:13:04 We only seem so stupid because you are so smart. omfg *edit: forgot the "omfg"
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:13:00 - [7] Yes.
ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:13:00 - [8] interesting
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony!
voodoo Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:16:00 - [10] cba to read the post but... Yeah.

Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:18:00 - [11] please do not try to correct the stupid/ignorant players, they provide profit and fun targets for the rest of us. Darwinism in action. --
Buga Buga Hecate Inferno	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Annacron Adaptive \minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk... possible profit=100% \o/ actual profit=90% /o\ \ You fail at math.
AndrewIFA	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:20:00 - [13] Do not worry my dyslectic friend, this will be dealt with.
monkfish2345	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:20:00 - [14] tbh im not gonna complain about people selling at below cost. there loss my gain.
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:21:00 - [15] You must be a very frustrated bear, sir.
Kiotsu Adler	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony! QTF (oh noes, my IQ)!
Ranik Sandaris Caldari The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:40:00 - [17] i think you will find That your just blew a gasket at a pressure of 9001
Ivena Amethyst	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:42:00 - [18] Edited by: Ivena Amethyst on 16/01/2009 12:44:02 I dunno how my math fails.. last time I looked (about 5 minutes ago) 90k was 90% of 100k who said i'm trying to correnct stupid/ignorant ppl? they do indeed privide targets/profit my grammar/spelling is probably off as english isn't my native language, I am however not dyslectic... at least I don't think so very frustrated bear? nope but a little frustrated yes oh yea and any1 wtf?!?!?(lol) edit o**** wrong char such fail
Rondo Gunn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:45:00 - [19] Anna, Anna, Anna. Those are the people you exploit. Now get out there and make us proud.
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony! And combining "a" and "lot" into 1 word. The Ghost-training vote thread

Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Gunnanmon Originally by: Sheriff Jones Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony! And combining "a" and "lot" into 1 word. TouchT, but let me riposte by saying you never start a sentence with "and". My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Ranik Sandaris Caldari The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.16 12:54:00 - [22] But yes people are stupid. Why do you care?
Vikarion Caldari White Rose Society	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:07:00 - [23] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Gunnanmon Originally by: Sheriff Jones Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony! And combining "a" and "lot" into 1 word. TouchT, but let me riposte by saying you never start a sentence with "and". Wrong. Many today feel that starting a sentence with "and", in the appropriate context, is just fine.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Vikarion Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Gunnanmon Originally by: Sheriff Jones Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony! And combining "a" and "lot" into 1 word. TouchT, but let me riposte by saying you never start a sentence with "and". Wrong. Many today feel that starting a sentence with "and", in the appropriate context, is just fine. Feelings are irrelevant. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Vikarion Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Gunnanmon Originally by: Sheriff Jones Words like any1, ppl, wtf, excess use of !?!, posting (lol) alot...and asking where the I.Q. has gone. I call dibs on irony! And combining "a" and "lot" into 1 word. TouchT, but let me riposte by saying you never start a sentence with "and". Wrong. Many today feel that starting a sentence with "and", in the appropriate context, is just fine. True, people do. So he is wrong in saying that people don't do it. However, he is correct that doing so is incorrect. -- Dirk Magnum's Heartfelt Confession
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Qordel True, people do. So he is wrong in saying that people don't do it. However, he is correct that doing so is incorrect. Have to correct by saying that my statement "you never" implies the context of rules, not opinion My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Marchocias Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:26:00 - [27] Actually, the rule "Don't start sentences with a conjunction" is erroneous. Language is the method through which people communicate. The purpose of communication is the transfer of meaning from one person to the next. The rules of language are defined by how the lanugage is used. The rules come AFTER the use of language, not before. If someone starts a sentense with AND, and the person listening understands the meaning of the sentense, then successful communication has occurred. This is a way in which English is used, and so should be reflected in the rules, rather than disallowed. The only "rule" that is left now, is that some people (language snobs) will look down on you if you "break" their little rule. If this isn't a problem for you, then good, but if such a snob is a potential empolyer / client, then you should be aware of it. And yes, everyone is stupid to some extent... anyone who says differently is simply more stupid than average.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:31:00 - [28] Originally by: Marchocias Actually, the rule "Don't start sentences with a conjunction" is erroneous. Language is the method through which people communicate. The purpose of communication is the transfer of meaning from one person to the next. The rules of language are defined by how the lanugage is used. The rules come AFTER the use of language, not before. If someone starts a sentense with AND, and the person listening understands the meaning of the sentense, then successful communication has occurred. This is a way in which English is used, and so should be reflected in the rules, rather than disallowed. The only "rule" that is left now, is that some people (language snobs) will look down on you if you "break" their little rule. If this isn't a problem for you, then good, but if such a snob is a potential empolyer / client, then you should be aware of it. This is true, but the discussion was taken into the technical discussion by the initial aggression, towards the use of "a lot" as a single word, and as such my reply towards the use of "and" in the beginning of the sentence was valid.
Marchocias Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:34:00 - [29] I don't question the validity of your comment. Merely the correctness.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:35:00 - [30] Well what do i know really, English isn't even my native language

mr passie Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:36:00 - [31] not the first but defo not the last "yes"
Ralitge boyter Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:37:00 - [32] Duh.... Yes? No people are not stupid they just are not able to think further then their own little world. They think that everyone around them must be stupid because they don't see the world like they do, no mater if they are PvP players, PvE players, miners, buildiers or forum posters all of us have been and will in the future in some way or the other be guilty of limiting our views and ideas by the every day reality that we live rather then looking around us and seeing that there is more out there and our points of view might not be right. So in short people behave stupid but that has nothign to do with stupidity it is simply because we are ignorant of the world around us.
Grek Forto Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:37:00 - [33] "Don't you hate, when you're in bed with three women. And the least attractive one comes to you and says, ¿Save some for meee!¿"
Jojo Redana	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:39:00 - [34] IQ is all about the language and grammar, right?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:39:00 - [35] Originally by: Jojo Redana IQ is all about the language and grammar, right? Today it is.
Squably Minmatar Invenio Inceptum	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:49:00 - [36] The answer is YES
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.16 13:53:00 - [37] Most PvP'ers have industrial/trade alts, or do it themselves. We only whine about people who avoid PvP completely.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.01.16 14:44:00 - [38] If people only were as clever as they think they are we would live in a much better world. But probably I would not be playing Eve then but doing something more clever with my time - so being a bit stupid seems quite ok to me My opinion is purely personal and not related to my alliance
Mckaulic Caldari Cult of NimaNima	Posted - 2009.01.16 14:53:00 - [39] I love lamp.
Salliene Gallente Trinity Acquisitions	Posted - 2009.01.16 14:57:00 - [40] Originally by: Annacron Adaptive nr1 "Minerals i mine myself are free." - lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk... possible profit=100% \o/ actual profit=90% /o\ wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?! i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff I can answer this one cause I sometimes do this and I KNOW that I am making less money selling the minerals rather than the manufactured item. The reason is because I like to make stuff, and the process of creating an item is more interesting to me than maxing my ISK returns. When I sell a ship, it still gives me a weird fuzzy feeling knowing that somewhere out there in that big EVE universe is some guy in a Tristan that I made. Maybe he's a pirate, maybe he's a noob upgrading to a new ship, whatever it is, he (or she) has it, and I made it, and knowing that is more enjoyable than squeezing out a few more meaningless ISK. EVE is a game (for most people) so everything that people do is altered by the "fun quotient". This is why there are sooooo many newbs out there doing the things that don't make them the max isk/hour possible, because they would rather be having fun than watching their wallet grow.

Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:11:00 - [41] Mensa says I'm smart with an IQ above 131, but yes...people are generally stupid. Also...oh the irony.
sg3s Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:16:00 - [42] "Are people stupid" Yes.
BiggestT Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:23:00 - [43] Edited by: BiggestT on 16/01/2009 15:24:00 In a post such as this, one must remember this statement of great wisdom and knowledge: ahem "There is no such thing as a stupid question..... ........However there are stupid people" EVE history t2 precisions
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.16 16:11:00 - [44] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 16/01/2009 16:10:46 Originally by: BiggestT In a post such as this, one must remember this statement of great wisdom and knowledge: ahem Misquoted it for total awesome quote'ness Hell...my ex used ahem on me on many occasions and the message was always loud and clear
Alan Lincoln	Posted - 2009.01.16 16:16:00 - [45] most definately yes.
Marchocias Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:07:00 - [46] Mensa = fail.
Cadela Fria Amarr x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:12:00 - [47] Isn't IQ only for stupid people who think intelligence can be meassured?...O_O!! panics for the flamesuit
Karentaki Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Ivena Amethyst I dunno how my math fails.. last time I looked (about 5 minutes ago) 90k was 90% of 100k Your maths fails because 100k is not 200% of 0k. You are saying that you are making 100% profit by mining 100k of minerals, but profit is defined as (sell_price - buy_price)/(buy_price) . You didn't pay anything for the minerals, so the buy price is 0. This leads to a divide-by-zero error, resulting in an undefined answer. Profit is meaningless unless it costs you something to make that money. However, you are correct in saying that minerals should be valued at the sell price on the market. A good rule of thumb is to treat every operation you do (mining, refining, manufacturing, trading, etc) as a separate transaction where you buy the materials at market price, then sell the products back at market price. You don't actually need to buy or sell them, but pretend you are when calculating profits. If any operation makes you a net loss, then DO NOT DO THAT OPERATION. Quote: EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
Marchocias Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:28:00 - [49] IQ completely fails to take into account the various types of intelligence that we all have. EG: an athlete who is capable of running a four minute mile. Typically, this wouldn't be considered particularly intelligent. Consider, however, how difficult it is to make a walking robot that can do this (currently not possible). The fact is, that running very fast is a hugely complex mathematical problem, requiring a solution to many differential equations. The human brain has to solve these equations (to some degree of imprecision) in order for any of us to run. Regardless of the fact that this occurs at a completely subconcious level, it is still requires a high degree of intelligence. So, in terms of 'motor control' intelligence, an athlete is far superior to a rocket scientist. Obviously, the athlete knows sod all about rockets. Can anyone say who is more intelligent than whom? ---- Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacoughcoughaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr!!
Opis	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:34:00 - [50] For people to be stupid someone has first to be smart.

Rufus MacMaranth Gallente Shadow Front	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:37:00 - [51] Yes, we pretty much all are relatively stupid compared to someone who is smarter than us. Cheers, Ruf.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:44:00 - [52] Edited by: rValdez5987 on 16/01/2009 17:47:21 Yes. also, This will be dealt with. YARRRRRRRRRRRRRR Also as a bonus I will now explain several TCP/IP Internet layer protocols. Internet Protocol :IP: routes packets from sender to receiver. Internet Control Message Protocol: ICMP: handles information about IP-based routing and network behavior especially as they relate to traffic conditions and errors. And don't forget Packet Internetwork Groper :PING: checks accessibility and round trip time between a specific sender and receiver pair of IP addresses. If you would like to know more, please feel free to eve mail me in game.
Shea Klant	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:02:00 - [53] yes
Johann Callasan Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:26:00 - [54] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Mensa says I'm smart with an IQ above 131, but yes...people are generally stupid. Also...oh the irony. Whoa there champ, I think the OP is really copmmenting about the difference between people who HAVE a IQ...and those that actually USE their I!Q. What used to be referred to in Ye Olden Days as the difference between "being stupid" and "be3ing a moron". Being STUPID by that definition is someone who actually has a normal intelligence factor but simply does not use it - the same kind of idiot that'll toss a alcoholic drink into a lit fireplace simply because they didn't want it...and then are suprised when they get their clothes singed by the resultant fireball. Being a MORON back then was being of subnormal intelligence - usually kept in "sanatoriums" for their own protection, as well as the protection of others. Isn't it amazing how language has changed, even though people have not? These days, BOTH terms can refer to people who don't think things through before they act...the instinctive button-pushers, those who trust their autopilot, etc etc...
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:28:00 - [55] Stupid being uninformed? Yes, we are all stupid and there isn't a hell of alot we can do about it.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:38:00 - [56] NO U
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:39:00 - [57] Originally by: Johann Callasan the same kind of idiot that'll toss a alcoholic drink into a lit fireplace simply because they didn't want it...and then are suprised when they get their clothes singed by the resultant fireball. That's some strong brew you're drinking there, if you get a clothes-singing fireball out of it.
Chomin H'ak Integrated Takeovers	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:45:00 - [58] Originally by: Treelox please do not try to correct the stupid/ignorant players, they provide profit and fun targets for the rest of us. Darwinism in action. You said what I was gonna say...
Spurty Caldari Technologic Dance	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:48:00 - [59] first, my eyes ached a bit .. but I let it go .. I pushed on and read more .. then my brain exploded. I'm now an eve-o zombie .. hunting for BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIINZZZZ!!
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:48:00 - [60] Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Johann Callasan the same kind of idiot that'll toss a alcoholic drink into a lit fireplace simply because they didn't want it...and then are suprised when they get their clothes singed by the resultant fireball. That's some strong brew you're drinking there, if you get a clothes-singing fireball out of it. This reminds me of when the first brought out 'non breakable' bottles. My brother bought a pint of rhum, he was sitting in the living room and chucked it up in the air. Let it land on the floor. The cover split in two but the bottle did not break. All the rhum poored out. That was not uninformed. That was just stupid. Maybe its a mixture..

Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.18 10:55:00 - [61] I just knew I would be flamed for that :D But of course, the so called "IQ" that is so popular is simply a measure for logical intelligence. It doesn't take into account creativity, emotional understanding or any other form of intelligence. Pure, simple, cold logic. Science, if you will. So of course it's bogus. :D
Esk Esme Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.01.18 11:17:00 - [62] Not the fizzyest pop in the fridge are you
Heroldyn	Posted - 2009.01.18 14:30:00 - [63] Edited by: Heroldyn on 18/01/2009 14:30:33 in short: yes, people are stupid. And for every stupid one, there's allways at least one who is even more stupid.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.01.18 14:44:00 - [64] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/01/2009 14:45:32 Its not stupidity, its laziness. Its not like they dont realize they are making a loss, they just dont care and want some quick isk. Or maybe they dont keep up with mineral prices, in which case its not stupidity either, its laziness once again. That you guys classify this as the person being stupid is... stupid.
Doctor Penguin Amarr Shadow Command Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.01.18 16:30:00 - [65] @OP: Naaaaaah, just you. ________________________________________________
Morfane The IMorral MAjority	Posted - 2009.01.18 16:43:00 - [66] Originally by: Annacron Adaptive nr1 "Minerals i mine myself are free." lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk... possible profit=100% \o/ actual profit=90% /o\ wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?! i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff The reason for selling at below mineral values is to produce isk from the sale as fast as possible. Yes, one could simply sell the minerals and get 100m isk in 2 days, or make an item with them and sell it for 90m today. In their books, 90m today is better than 100m in 2 days. Originally by: Annacron Adaptive nr2 pvpers that are all like "wtf carebear stuffs gimmi more ships to pew pew yarr" (QR features any1 lol?) omfg?! "eve is a pvp game" "dont play unless you want to pvp" lets see with this one... pvp=ships to fly needed ships=player built whait.. what? PLAYERS build the ships that pvpers blow up?? eve has huge player driven industry going on? that couldn't possibly be the case could it? maybe there's a need to develope this industry system just like the combat system? The reason for this is because of what pvpers do, versus what industrialists do. When pvpers get new ships, it opens up new tactical situations for them to factor into an already complex system, making it more fun. When industrialists get new ships, they get to make isk faster. I imagine CCP thinks that combat can always use more tactical variation, but industrialists make enough isk/hour. Originally by: Annacron Adaptive I'm NOT sayng people ARE stupid, just that some people SEEM TO BE stupid (ppl that seem stupid might be it to ofc) I'm also NOT saying this applys to everyone, i'm just hoping for some one giving me back my faith in players IQ I won't say i'm not trolling hoping no one will call me a troll 'cause that would make me stupid Unrelated to my above two points, in general, yes I find the majority of people stupid.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.01.18 17:24:00 - [67] Many seem to be--yes.
Chris Liath Gallente The Vorlon Empire Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.01.18 18:22:00 - [68] Are people stupid? Yes. /thread "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
Brainless Bimbo Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.18 19:24:00 - [69] Stupidity; Its a relative concept.
Drykor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.01.18 19:27:00 - [70] Gee it all became clear now, thank you, you genius.

Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.18 19:41:00 - [71] didn't read post just the topic. and yes, yes they are.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2009.01.19 01:24:00 - [72] Yes people are stupid. Even worse than the ones selling 100k worth of minerals in the form of a 90k ISK item, are the ones trying to "educate" them to sell the item for 100k ISK. Where's the profit margin for the real traders, if the "minerals I mined are free" crowd get all edumicated? And you can start a sentence with a conjunction. But it's something you only do for dramatic effect.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.01.19 01:49:00 - [73] Aktualy peopel are not stopid. Mabey they macht monii taht way becoz it si fun for them??? At teh end Eve is a gaem you knowe ...
DasDizzy Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.01.19 02:36:00 - [74] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Aktualy peopel are not stopid. Mabey they macht monii taht way becoz it si fun for them??? At teh end Eve is a gaem you knowe ... where have you been? [SIG START] Everything i say is the view of the rest of the eve cluster, IM THE PRESSDUDE FFS
Sagacious Z Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.19 02:42:00 - [75] Edited by: Sagacious Z on 19/01/2009 02:45:51 Dear Annacron Adaptive: You asked if "people are stupid". Let us review your post: Paragraph 1: I, not "i". Can't, not "cant". Paragraph 2: Cap the "i". Let's, not "lets". Simplified, not "simplifyed". Which, not "wich". Your math fails in a galactic sized manner. 100-90 = 10 / 100 = 10% loss, NOT A 90% GAIN!!!!!! Build, not "biuld". Than, not "then". Cap the "i'm". Cap "i". Paragraph 3: Give me, not "gimmi". If you desire to use slang, it is "gimmee", not "gimmi". Don't, not "dont". Let's, not "lets". Wait, not "whait". Eve has a huge..., not "Eve has huge". Put a comma after the word "case". Develop, not "develope". Paragraph 4: Saying, not "sayng". Applies, not "applys". Someone, not "some one". Players' IQ, not "players IQ". Will not, not "won't". I'm, not "i'm". You used a double negative in your last sentence: "won't" + "not trolling". Because, not "'cause". Once more, your question was if "people are stupid". It is very possible your answer is imbedded within your own comments regarding your question, so I won't expand on this further. Regarding "why would a player sell an item at a loss"? If so, that could be a smart move if the goal is to drive a competitor in the trading arena out of the local market and this tactic succeeds. Also, time is precious, and perhaps the player decided the second or two it takes to sell the item is preferable to the additional few seconds it takes to recycle the item. So, sometimes people are not as stupid as you may believe they are. Then again, read your full original post once more, paying attention to spelling and correct grammar usage, and ask yourself once more this question "if people are stupid". The EVE community is much smarter than you give them credit for, and new players are excused as there is a steep learning curve. I believe that the GREAT majority of our players can spell well and have basic grammar skills(as we see here in your post, a rare few fail) and the average age is in the 30 year range. There are quite a few players 50 and above, many with vast experience in their careers. I was VP of two Fortune 500 companies, have a BS in Business, I am Oracle Certified, I have a CFP, a 214 license and other advanced educational assets, and I was "smart enough" to be able to retire early so I can play EVE--there are many others like me, with similar backgrounds, who are "not so stupid" as you paint us. I was introduced to the game by a highly intelligent business owner who owns his own successful software development company. CCP and the EVE community should be very proud of the average intelligence of their player base. Finally, do not criticize your fellow players. Be respectful. Just ask questions without the questioning the intelligence of your fellow players, especially since, in this case, you must have been looking in a mirror when you asked "if people are stupid". Cheers!
Valya Dire	Posted - 2009.01.19 03:52:00 - [76] Originally by: Ranik Sandaris i think you will find That your just blew a gasket at a pressure of 9001 Cant believe this got to 3 pages and nobody has done it yet, EvE community slipping. Fine, i'll do it then. clears throat THE PRESSURE! IT'S OVER 9000!
Franga Gristle Industries	Posted - 2009.01.19 04:06:00 - [77] Best hypocritical thread ever. ----------
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.19 06:22:00 - [78] Yes people are stupid... Originally by: Annacron Adaptive I've frequently seen indications of this both on forums(lol) and ingame(lol) and i cant refrain from making this post any longer. nr1 "Minerals i mine myself are free." lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk... possible profit=100% \o/ actual profit=90% /o\ wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?! i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff nr2 pvpers that are all like "wtf carebear stuffs gimmi more ships to pew pew yarr" (QR features any1 lol?) omfg?! "eve is a pvp game" "dont play unless you want to pvp" lets see with this one... pvp=ships to fly needed ships=player built whait.. what? PLAYERS build the ships that pvpers blow up?? eve has huge player driven industry going on? that couldn't possibly be the case could it? maybe there's a need to develope this industry system just like the combat system? I'm NOT sayng people ARE stupid, just that some people SEEM TO BE stupid (ppl that seem stupid might be it to ofc) I'm also NOT saying this applys to everyone, i'm just hoping for some one giving me back my faith in players IQ I won't say i'm not trolling hoping no one will call me a troll 'cause that would make me stupid Oh, you mean in the game, yes they are still stupid there too.. Lucky I'm not a people....
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.19 06:52:00 - [79] Originally by: Sagacious Z slight win Tehee. Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Neena Vilrae	Posted - 2009.01.19 07:33:00 - [80] Originally by: Sagacious Z Edited by: Sagacious Z on 19/01/2009 02:49:40 Dear Annacron Adaptive: Your math fails in a galactic sized manner. 100-90 = 10 / 100 = 10% loss, NOT A 90% GAIN!!!!!! Someone else attempted to call the OP on this "wrong math", but both of you failed Reading Comprehension. The 100% Profit is selling the minerals at 100K ISK. By selling the manufactured unit for 90K ISK they make 90% of the 100K they could have got had they sold the minerals without building. That is the 90% actual profit when compared to the sell-the-minerals total potential profit. You guys fail at failing others.

Jalif Black Sinisters	Posted - 2009.01.19 08:57:00 - [81] Originally by: sg3s "Are people stupid" Yes.
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2009.01.19 08:59:00 - [82] Originally by: Annacron Adaptive I've frequently seen indications of this both on forums(lol) and ingame(lol) and i cant refrain from making this post any longer. nr1 "Minerals i mine myself are free." lets see...(heavily simplifyed) someone has self-mined minerals worth 100k isk... then manufactures an item.. wich he sells for 90k isk... possible profit=100% \o/ actual profit=90% /o\ wtf?! why!??! why do people biuld items and sell them AT LESS PROFIT then it would have generated to JUST SELL THE MINERALS?!?! i'm not even getting in to "datacores i get from my own R&D agents are free to" stuff nr2 pvpers that are all like "wtf carebear stuffs gimmi more ships to pew pew yarr" (QR features any1 lol?) omfg?! "eve is a pvp game" "dont play unless you want to pvp" lets see with this one... pvp=ships to fly needed ships=player built whait.. what? PLAYERS build the ships that pvpers blow up?? eve has huge player driven industry going on? that couldn't possibly be the case could it? maybe there's a need to develope this industry system just like the combat system? I'm NOT sayng people ARE stupid, just that some people SEEM TO BE stupid (ppl that seem stupid might be it to ofc) I'm also NOT saying this applys to everyone, i'm just hoping for some one giving me back my faith in players IQ I won't say i'm not trolling hoping no one will call me a troll 'cause that would make me stupid You type like a 7 year old with A.D.D
Heyte	Posted - 2009.01.19 09:17:00 - [83] Edited by: Heyte on 19/01/2009 09:18:37 Hey guys, you gotta buy low sell high. That's what a certain fellow always says. And it always means more then it implies. Originally by: Heroldyn Edited by: Heroldyn on 18/01/2009 14:30:33 in short: yes, people are stupid. And for every stupid one, there's allways at least one who is even more stupid. While this sentiment would be a great 'don't try so hard!' reminder, you must also consider that for every smart person, it seems that there's even smarter people out there too. I'm in aw of all the time spent on freeware around here.

CCP WeatherMan C C P	Posted - 2009.01.19 09:25:00 - [84] Locked. Trolling.



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