Today, Let's look at two things I think everybodies effectively fogotten existed
Defender Missiles and Mining Frigates

Has CCP ever explicitly stated that they will look at these two things EVER

Defender Missiles are pretty useless even on paper, they reduce incoming missile damage at the expense that you might be losing around 1/7th of your damage output
There is no reason to load them into anything other than a rocket launcher, but you could load them into a citadel torpedo launcher
In practice they almost never actually reduce incoming missile damage.

Mining Frigate
Bantam, Burst, Tormentor, Navita
When was the last time you saw anyone flying one of the things
They are out Mined by destroyers you get practically free with the tutorial.
And unlike literally every other frigate in the game, these have no Tech II variants.

So anything else even more useless that I've forgotten about them?

the mining frigates are used by new players to mine. i know, its hard to believe, but they are used.

I dunno. I've often fantasized about what effect a newbie wing of 50 fast, rocket launcher-laden cruisers spewing Defenders would have on the field.

I dunno. I've often fantasized about what effect a newbie wing of 50 fast, rocket launcher-laden cruisers spewing Defenders would have on the field, reducing the DPS of a tengu fleet while alphafleet does its work. Perhaps its just us who haven't yet cracked the nut on how to employ those mods.

Mining frigs... well, newbs gonna newb i guess

Except Defenders only target missiles going to YOUR ship, not you fleet mates.

Except Defenders only target missiles going to YOUR ship, not you fleet mates.

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It would be cool to have antimissile frigates or the future equivalent of aegis systems.

Op you forgot FoF missiles.

Small Shield Extender
50mm Armor Pates
100mm Armor Plates.

Micro shield extender. who the **** uses that. and WHY.

Speaking of Micro

Micro Smart Bombs.

AEGIS or CIWS frigate.

Do it.

Yet unlike every other ship in the game, you can't find another use for it once you "Grow out of it"
Even if it's just to make a T2 ship.

so, new players need ships. they are there for a purpose. who cares if they dont have any other use and not used when you "grow out of them".

Small remote rep modules

Does anyone use the "Armor Layering" mod that gives you 10-15% armor?

I keep a small armor rep on my mission Drake in case my drones take aggro.

Auto Targeting System
Passive Targeter

I'm beginning to like this idea, although it would be pretty difficult to balance properly.

All of the t2 armor plates are completely useless. Why even bother with them when the meta 4 version offers the same hp bonus, is easier to fit and has less mass?

All of the t2 armor plates are completely useless. Why even bother with them when the meta 4 version offers the same hp bonus, is easier to fit and has less mass?

I would also say cap batteries, but I've been known to put one on an MWD fit covops frig to help with long warps.

Mining frigs make good cyno ships, and try putting an auto-targeter on your next mission boat (assuming you have the spare high). Your inner lazy bastard will thank me.

Can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet-- non-ECM ewar drones. I would also say cap batteries, but I've been known to put one on an MWD fit covops frig to help with long warps.

Mining Frigates make good disposable Cynos

It would be nice if defender missile launchers could be fit to utility high slots.

The first is used by some missioners and some logistics, because it allows you to keep more targets locked.
Passive targeter is great for suicide ganks, as well as some niche PvP uses. I'd be pretty awesome if someone did alpha fleets with all passive targeters. Enemy Logi's would be worthless.

So do the free noob ships. Good skills and a micro aux power core and you can fit a cyno.

Yet unlike every other ship in the game, you can't find another use for it once you "Grow out of it"
Even if it's just to make a T2 ship.

Bursts apparently make good cyno ships.

Defenders are being fixed apparently according to the dev that did the Fanfest topic on modules, he didn't say what he was doing with it but CCP intends to revamp loads of modules and release new ones on a regular basis.