EVE Search - 1400 vs Tachyon vs 425 Rail, some facts

All Channels

Ships and Modules

1400 vs Tachyon vs 425 Rail, some facts

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Nieda	Posted - 2004.07.29 10:57:00 - [91] Originally by: idle superstar Mr. n00b...the NPC's that u are shooting have higher resistances now..THEY TANK now...try hitting a secure container and see your hits...And spawns are much easier to handle solo now in 0.0..now stop whining and find a setup that u can kill spawns solo... Look, its not about npc spawns, its about general viability of those guns. Its not that if you find a setup that kills a particular spawn, then there are no problems to be solved. Try shooting at players with 1400, they will tank up your damage and laugh. --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.
Nieda	Posted - 2004.07.29 10:57:00 - [92] Originally by: idle superstar Mr. n00b...the NPC's that u are shooting have higher resistances now..THEY TANK now...try hitting a secure container and see your hits...And spawns are much easier to handle solo now in 0.0..now stop whining and find a setup that u can kill spawns solo... Look, its not about npc spawns, its about general viability of those guns. Its not that if you find a setup that kills a particular spawn, then there are no problems to be solved. Try shooting at players with 1400, they will tank up your damage and laugh. --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.
chillx	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:05:00 - [93] Tanking has nothing to do with this. Tanking just takes damage off the ship. Our problem is creating the damage in the first place. I am Minmatar. I don't want to use lasers.
chillx	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:05:00 - [94] Tanking has nothing to do with this. Tanking just takes damage off the ship. Our problem is creating the damage in the first place. I am Minmatar. I don't want to use lasers.
allmus	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:19:00 - [95] ok, i have try'd hitting players in BS's they are not moving, i am at 90km range all the way down to 20km's , using 3 types of ammo, the target ISN'T moving, i am moving at 150m/s in a straight line towards it, ammo is containly firing, target has no hardeners, i have no damage mod's or tracking mod's on, and i STILL don;t get past the 300 mark!! now maybe somthing up with just my char alone, maybe it's not accounting for any of the skills i have, i don;t know but i do know this, I CAN'T HUNT LIKE THIS! Quote: Mr. n00b...the NPC's that u are shooting have higher resistances now..THEY TANK now...try hitting a secure container and see your hits...And spawns are much easier to handle solo now in 0.0..now stop whining and find a setup that u can kill spawns solo... i am also trying npc spawn, i know they can tank, what i;m trying to point out is that proj's are nerfed, i use phased ammo on a NPC type that i KNOW is weak againest em/thermic, everyone around me uses lasers coz THEY know the local npc's are weak againest em/thermic. also i have try'd hitting a raven, AND another tempest, with phased ammo, titanium sabot's and nuclear ammo, all have a max damage of 250-300, i'm not getting past 300, i haven't in the past 3 weeks! conclusion is nerf them too much! this post was funded by Quafe now available in minmatar red. try our new product. Quafe's caldari version "press missiles 4TW" limited sales offer before the next universal improvement
allmus	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:19:00 - [96] ok, i have try'd hitting players in BS's they are not moving, i am at 90km range all the way down to 20km's , using 3 types of ammo, the target ISN'T moving, i am moving at 150m/s in a straight line towards it, ammo is containly firing, target has no hardeners, i have no damage mod's or tracking mod's on, and i STILL don;t get past the 300 mark!! now maybe somthing up with just my char alone, maybe it's not accounting for any of the skills i have, i don;t know but i do know this, I CAN'T HUNT LIKE THIS! Quote: Mr. n00b...the NPC's that u are shooting have higher resistances now..THEY TANK now...try hitting a secure container and see your hits...And spawns are much easier to handle solo now in 0.0..now stop whining and find a setup that u can kill spawns solo... i am also trying npc spawn, i know they can tank, what i;m trying to point out is that proj's are nerfed, i use phased ammo on a NPC type that i KNOW is weak againest em/thermic, everyone around me uses lasers coz THEY know the local npc's are weak againest em/thermic. also i have try'd hitting a raven, AND another tempest, with phased ammo, titanium sabot's and nuclear ammo, all have a max damage of 250-300, i'm not getting past 300, i haven't in the past 3 weeks! conclusion is nerf them too much! this post was funded by Quafe now available in minmatar red. try our new product. Quafe's caldari version "press missiles 4TW" limited sales offer before the next universal improvement
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:22:00 - [97] hmm, someone i know with the same rpoblem switched to 1200's. He's pretty content with them, but he's using prototype and scout ones, which does make a difference.
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:22:00 - [98] hmm, someone i know with the same rpoblem switched to 1200's. He's pretty content with them, but he's using prototype and scout ones, which does make a difference.
RaTTuS	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:46:00 - [99] Edited by: RaTTuS on 29/07/2004 12:00:14 [ 2004.07.27 14:12:04 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guardian Initiate, wrecking for 1082.2 damage. However - it is almost never that I get a wrecking shot in... BIG Lottery BIG Deal Damn Sig text length nurf
RaTTuS	Posted - 2004.07.29 11:46:00 - [100] Edited by: RaTTuS on 29/07/2004 12:00:14 [ 2004.07.27 14:12:04 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guardian Initiate, wrecking for 1082.2 damage. However - it is almost never that I get a wrecking shot in... BIG Lottery BIG Deal Damn Sig text length nurf
Mistress Zhantine	Posted - 2004.07.29 12:27:00 - [101] yeah i've had the rare wrecking shot of 900+ but it is to do with DOT surely... when the rate of fire is so slow you expect to be able to pack a punch without using ridiculous numbers of dam mods... i've had the misfortune of trying to take a gurista destroyer on using emp/phased plasma/photon ammo all the ones for it's shields and just watched it tank my damage, i mean i didnt even get it to half shields... then you run out of ammo, reload, by the time your next salvo comes it is back up to full shield... i know i know dont hunt alone blah blah, speak to any apoc/mega/raven pilot worth a dime and they can solo BS spawns with no real issues. i dont think it's a tracking issue... range maybe... when i need to sit infront of my friend who is in a mega using 425's because i need to be closer to hit something is wrong... damage? definately... when i stop firing and see that the dam that i am dealing doesnt really effect the outcome coz he's still owning on his own but when the situation reverses i watch shield go back up to half in the same amount of time even though i am getting 9 out of 10 hits. (before you say anything, we both started at the same time, have equivilant gunnery skills etc... and similar setups, ie 1 tracking cmop 1 sensor booster, 1 dam mod) You cant tell me that something isn't wrong here? You see what power is... Holding someone elses fear in your hand and showing it to them... 2004.07.28 21:21:45combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Mortifier, wrecking for 916.3 damage.
Mistress Zhantine	Posted - 2004.07.29 12:27:00 - [102] yeah i've had the rare wrecking shot of 900+ but it is to do with DOT surely... when the rate of fire is so slow you expect to be able to pack a punch without using ridiculous numbers of dam mods... i've had the misfortune of trying to take a gurista destroyer on using emp/phased plasma/photon ammo all the ones for it's shields and just watched it tank my damage, i mean i didnt even get it to half shields... then you run out of ammo, reload, by the time your next salvo comes it is back up to full shield... i know i know dont hunt alone blah blah, speak to any apoc/mega/raven pilot worth a dime and they can solo BS spawns with no real issues. i dont think it's a tracking issue... range maybe... when i need to sit infront of my friend who is in a mega using 425's because i need to be closer to hit something is wrong... damage? definately... when i stop firing and see that the dam that i am dealing doesnt really effect the outcome coz he's still owning on his own but when the situation reverses i watch shield go back up to half in the same amount of time even though i am getting 9 out of 10 hits. (before you say anything, we both started at the same time, have equivilant gunnery skills etc... and similar setups, ie 1 tracking cmop 1 sensor booster, 1 dam mod) You cant tell me that something isn't wrong here? You see what power is... Holding someone elses fear in your hand and showing it to them... 2004.07.28 21:21:45combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Mortifier, wrecking for 916.3 damage.
RaTTuS	Posted - 2004.07.29 12:34:00 - [103] Yeah, it needs some loving because the DOT is appaling now... and distance - I can probably target farther in a caldari cruiser than I can in a tempest BIG Lottery BIG Deal Damn Sig text length nurf
RaTTuS	Posted - 2004.07.29 12:34:00 - [104] Yeah, it needs some loving because the DOT is appaling now... and distance - I can probably target farther in a caldari cruiser than I can in a tempest BIG Lottery BIG Deal Damn Sig text length nurf
Mistress Zhantine	Posted - 2004.07.29 15:19:00 - [105] hence the general consensus being that the phoon is rapidly becoming the prefered min BS because at least you have a decent range on the thing You see what power is... Holding someone elses fear in your hand and showing it to them... 2004.07.28 21:21:45combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Mortifier, wrecking for 916.3 damage.
Mistress Zhantine	Posted - 2004.07.29 15:19:00 - [106] hence the general consensus being that the phoon is rapidly becoming the prefered min BS because at least you have a decent range on the thing You see what power is... Holding someone elses fear in your hand and showing it to them... 2004.07.28 21:21:45combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Mortifier, wrecking for 916.3 damage.
Nieda	Posted - 2004.07.30 08:36:00 - [107] Every ship should be viable and tempest is tier 2 battleship. I wonder, why do they say that minmatar are meant to do "hit & vanish" runs, where they can be fast but dont have the tracking to hit anything ? --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.
Nieda	Posted - 2004.07.30 08:36:00 - [108] Every ship should be viable and tempest is tier 2 battleship. I wonder, why do they say that minmatar are meant to do "hit & vanish" runs, where they can be fast but dont have the tracking to hit anything ? --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.
Mistress Zhantine	Posted - 2004.07.30 09:58:00 - [109] It's a bit like false advertising really isnt it, as far as i could tell the minmattar way of thinking as far as ships goes is 'make it as fast and destructive as possible dont worry about defence' but now they're reduced to reasonably quick ships with no bite... You see what power is... Holding someone elses fear in your hand and showing it to them... 2004.07.28 21:21:45combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Mortifier, wrecking for 916.3 damage.
Mistress Zhantine	Posted - 2004.07.30 09:58:00 - [110] It's a bit like false advertising really isnt it, as far as i could tell the minmattar way of thinking as far as ships goes is 'make it as fast and destructive as possible dont worry about defence' but now they're reduced to reasonably quick ships with no bite... You see what power is... Holding someone elses fear in your hand and showing it to them... 2004.07.28 21:21:45combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Mortifier, wrecking for 916.3 damage.
Ph0enix	Posted - 2004.07.30 11:50:00 - [111] jees, some of you guys need to move with the times. Boo-hoo, 1400s don't do 1600 dmg at 100km away!! stop calling for the devs do something and alter your setups. Use 1200s, try close-range guns and a MWD. You shouldn't be shield tanking Tempests or Phoons anymore, so MWD ain't a problem. 1400s are suppose to have low tracking- they are for sitting still and slogging it out with sentry guns/ stations/ other BS. If you move and try and fire them at a frigate or cruiser you SHOULDN'T be able to hit, and if you do not for much. Another thing, config your scanner to show transversal velocity. the bigger the number, the worse the hits you'll get. play around and work out how to get the number as low as possible. that should improve your dmg. www.freetribes.net
Ph0enix	Posted - 2004.07.30 11:50:00 - [112] jees, some of you guys need to move with the times. Boo-hoo, 1400s don't do 1600 dmg at 100km away!! stop calling for the devs do something and alter your setups. Use 1200s, try close-range guns and a MWD. You shouldn't be shield tanking Tempests or Phoons anymore, so MWD ain't a problem. 1400s are suppose to have low tracking- they are for sitting still and slogging it out with sentry guns/ stations/ other BS. If you move and try and fire them at a frigate or cruiser you SHOULDN'T be able to hit, and if you do not for much. Another thing, config your scanner to show transversal velocity. the bigger the number, the worse the hits you'll get. play around and work out how to get the number as low as possible. that should improve your dmg. www.freetribes.net
Iluyen	Posted - 2004.07.30 12:20:00 - [113] Originally by: Ph0enix 1400s are suppose to have low tracking- they are for sitting still and slogging it out with sentry guns/ stations/ other BS. If you move and try and fire them at a frigate or cruiser you SHOULDN'T be able to hit, and if you do not for much. Good thing other players always oblige us by sitting still and slugging it out. Its not like they warp out when getting to much damage from a long range tempest setup. Ever tried slogging it out with sentry guns? If your a moron don't post.
Iluyen	Posted - 2004.07.30 12:20:00 - [114] Originally by: Ph0enix 1400s are suppose to have low tracking- they are for sitting still and slogging it out with sentry guns/ stations/ other BS. If you move and try and fire them at a frigate or cruiser you SHOULDN'T be able to hit, and if you do not for much. Good thing other players always oblige us by sitting still and slugging it out. Its not like they warp out when getting to much damage from a long range tempest setup. Ever tried slogging it out with sentry guns? If your a moron don't post.
Archfish	Posted - 2004.07.31 21:22:00 - [115] Originally by: Iluyen If your a moron don't post. Should be stickied to the top of every forum in existance.. ********** "We will fly at their death cannons and clog them with wreckage" **********
Archfish	Posted - 2004.07.31 21:22:00 - [116] Originally by: Iluyen If your a moron don't post. Should be stickied to the top of every forum in existance.. ********** "We will fly at their death cannons and clog them with wreckage" **********
Wulfgard	Posted - 2004.07.31 23:02:00 - [117] Originally by: Negotiator watev, 1400s are _artillery_ weapons. they are supposed to be used against stationary targest, such as slow-moving battleships at long range, and stations. /sarcasm on I keep reading this as a good reason why not to use 1400s. Yeesss 1400s are the only guns designed to hit stationary targets, that is their main and sole purpose... Ok, ok, then I imagine when Shiva comes up, they will have their use. But I better not see some punk with tachyons or 425s being able to score a hit on a station. They can't, only 1400s are designed to do it!!! /sarcasm off
Wulfgard	Posted - 2004.07.31 23:02:00 - [118] Originally by: Negotiator watev, 1400s are _artillery_ weapons. they are supposed to be used against stationary targest, such as slow-moving battleships at long range, and stations. /sarcasm on I keep reading this as a good reason why not to use 1400s. Yeesss 1400s are the only guns designed to hit stationary targets, that is their main and sole purpose... Ok, ok, then I imagine when Shiva comes up, they will have their use. But I better not see some punk with tachyons or 425s being able to score a hit on a station. They can't, only 1400s are designed to do it!!! /sarcasm off
Mortuus	Posted - 2004.07.31 23:19:00 - [119] I've been having a lot of success with an armor tanked tempest with 1200's and 1400's and 1 800 and missles against NPC's. Just load ammo's for the 1200's and 1400's to make their optimal about the same. Works for me. Take out a 0.0 2 BS spawn easy enough.
Mortuus	Posted - 2004.07.31 23:19:00 - [120] I've been having a lot of success with an armor tanked tempest with 1200's and 1400's and 1 800 and missles against NPC's. Just load ammo's for the 1200's and 1400's to make their optimal about the same. Works for me. Take out a 0.0 2 BS spawn easy enough.

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.