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Caeled Vorchaz Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:22:00 - [1] - Quote My main toon has contracted a negative balance Im shocked to find today after subbing back to EVE after a lengthy break. For myself, the owner of the account since beta, have never purchased ISK illegally but find after grilling my kid, he had indeed purchased some isk last year. As the account holder I have to take responsibility I guess. But the punishment..Ohh my.!!! Now I am lumbered with my main toon unable to pretty much do anything at all, let alone play him with enjoyment. So my issue is this, although I do accept responsibility for this infraction, the punishment has rendered my playing experience with EVE, mute and dead, because my sole motivation to play was with my only real toon who I had scince beta. So how can CCp think this is good for real business when the punishment is motivationaly destroying, period.? I have just paid them 2 months sub to find this crushing reality and now not sure what to do to get out of it. I will not buy more plex to please CCP. I feel a 0 balance would have been much fairer or at least not soul destroying. Its not like he made anything out of buying some ISK to get a ship, hell take the darn ship.. Is there anything I can do other than use my low low alt to earn ISk and transfer to my main, or can I not even do this.? I would like CCP to answer this if possible..Im at a loss and very dispondant about the whole thing. I was excited to come back to EVE for the new axpansion, but now Im just plain dismayed.. I did send a rather angry petition to ccp but it was based mainly on panic and immediate anger. So I do appologise for that. But please understand my plight. I asure you my son wont be playing my account again.. Grrr....(Cheese and water for a week)..JK**
Tobiaz Spacerats 214	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:25:00 - [2] - Quote How big of a hole are we talking about here? CCP, fix the forum's image tags http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif Cleaner warbills, anti-memberpadding, no price-shielding large corps: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1141323#post1141323
Large Collidable Object morons. 1282	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:26:00 - [3] - Quote Make your kid pay the difference in Plex - sounds like a fair punishment. You know... morons.
Xeyena Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:27:00 - [4] - Quote So you were account sharing as well? ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN.
Caeled Vorchaz Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:27:00 - [5] - Quote Tobiaz wrote: How big of a hole are we talking about here? The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still...
Caeled Vorchaz Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:27:00 - [6] - Quote Xeyena wrote: So you were account sharing as well? ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN. Um no, my son uses my computer..
Tobiaz Spacerats 214	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:28:00 - [7] - Quote Xeyena wrote: So you were account sharing as well? ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN. Wrong, it's his kid. Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Tobiaz wrote: How big of a hole are we talking about here? The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still... 300m is little more then half a PLEX. Have your son pony up the $20 and sell it with an alt (can't use the market with a negative wallet) and transfer the ISK. Just don't go flying around too much with a PLEX in your cargo or you'll get ganked. CCP, fix the forum's image tags http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif Cleaner warbills, anti-memberpadding, no price-shielding large corps: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1141323#post1141323
ShootsBlues McAwoxer Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:28:00 - [8] - Quote buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic.
hermot Angels of Valour G00DFELLAS 9	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:28:00 - [9] - Quote earn is on your alt and make your wallet positive. Dont give account details to people who dont own the account. i.,e your son. Your lucky your not banned for account sharing, although your admission in this thread of account sharing may well secure that as the only worthwhile outcome for people who dont listen to the EULA and expect everything to be given back to them because "it wasnt their fault" You let someone else use your account, you should be banned. Be thankful for a neg wallet.
Planetarian Covert Operations Inc. 7	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:30:00 - [10] - Quote HTFU ! End of story If you're reading this you've come to my signature, which has little relevance to this post
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 120	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:31:00 - [11] - Quote Account sharing is risky even in the family. Stop you whiny, baby, sooky, soft **** blubbering and buy some PLEX. Man up for fucksakes. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita.
Caeled Vorchaz Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:31:00 - [12] - Quote ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote: buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic. Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check..
Doc Fury Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 809	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:32:00 - [13] - Quote The beatings shall continue until morale improves. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.'
Xeyena Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:32:00 - [14] - Quote C. Children (1) Responsibility for Account Minor children may not establish an Account without the consent of a parent or guardian. If the user of EVE is a minor, a parent or guardian must complete the registration process to establish an Account, in which case the parent or guardian takes full responsibility for all obligations under the EULA and for all activities of the child using the Account.If you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account). If you establish an Account, you represent that you are an adult thirteen (13) years of age or older and are either accepting the EULA on behalf of yourself or on behalf of your child, in which latter case you agree to the EULA with regard to your child and represent that you are also personally bound by the EULA. ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN
Tobiaz Spacerats 214	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:33:00 - [15] - Quote hermot wrote: earn is on your alt and make your wallet positive. Dont give account details to people who dont own the account. i.,e your son. Your lucky your not banned for account sharing, although your admission in this thread of account sharing may well secure that as the only worthwhile outcome for people who dont listen to the EULA and expect everything to be given back to them because "it wasnt their fault" You let someone else use your account, you should be banned. Be thankful for a neg wallet. Go read the eula. You can share accounts with your children, since they are not legally allowed to own one. Edit: on a sidenote, that part about account sharing hasn't been always part of the EULA. CCP, fix the forum's image tags http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif Cleaner warbills, anti-memberpadding, no price-shielding large corps: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1141323#post1141323
hermot Angels of Valour G00DFELLAS 9	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:35:00 - [16] - Quote Tobiaz wrote: hermot wrote: earn is on your alt and make your wallet positive. Dont give account details to people who dont own the account. i.,e your son. Your lucky your not banned for account sharing, although your admission in this thread of account sharing may well secure that as the only worthwhile outcome for people who dont listen to the EULA and expect everything to be given back to them because "it wasnt their fault" You let someone else use your account, you should be banned. Be thankful for a neg wallet. Go read the eula. You can share accounts with your children, since they are not legally allowed to own one. Edit: on a sidenote, that part about account sharing hasn't been always part of the EULA anyway. you are wrong (1) Responsibility for Account Minor children may not establish an Account without the consent of a parent or guardian. If the user of EVE is a minor, a parent or guardian must complete the registration process to establish an Account, in which case the parent or guardian takes full responsibility for all obligations under the EULA and for all activities of the child using the Account.If you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account). The account cannot be shared.
ShootsBlues McAwoxer Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:36:00 - [17] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote: buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic. Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check.. Translation: It really wasn't my son, it was me, but I don't want to accept responsibility for it so I invented a son I don't have to blame it on. Either that or you're the worst parent ever for not only letting your child get a hold of your eve password but also your credit card number, and on top of all of this you never bothered to tell him about avoiding RMT before allowing him to acquire both of those. Pretty much complete failure on your part. You deserve this.
Caeled Vorchaz Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:40:00 - [18] - Quote Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response.
Holo Bagza Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:40:00 - [19] - Quote All this for 300 mil? Really?
seany1212 eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred 136	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:41:00 - [20] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote: buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic. Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check.. You suddenly got a grasp of the english language in comparison to your original post not sorry for your stupidity
Hicksimus The Scope Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:41:00 - [21] - Quote Or maybe he is trolling you guys......I mean really, he couldn't be that much of a moron, could he? Things I have realized from the EvE forums: Many people beleive cost means money and only money
Graic Gabtar The Lemon Party 120	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:41:00 - [22] - Quote CCP, please just permaban the OP as a lesson to cheating cunts everywhere. Or just set his account to negative 1 trillion ISK. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita.
Nirnias Stirrum Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD. 80	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:41:00 - [23] - Quote Its one of those vague things the EULA hints at, fairly sure the above point is if you set up a new account with the sole intent of that account being used by your spawn! Where as in this case, it was your main account that you used regularly then you allowed your spawn to use it which would indeed be a breach of the EULA, compounded by the fact your spawn bought ISK illegally you may just have to suck it up. Also its not just CCP, in any MMO it is against the EULA to share your account.
Xeyena Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:42:00 - [24] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. So you don't even have the defense that he is a minor. It's account sharing in it's worst form, and you have fully admitted it. You deserve every bit of punishment that CCP gives you and if it were up to me, you should be prosecuted by them to reclaim the subscription fees that your son SHOULD have been paying in order for you to both play the game that is eve online.
Serge Bastana GWA Corp 337	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:42:00 - [25] - Quote I do think that you should make your lad pay for the recovery of your wallet, it will hopefully teach him not to do that in games when he's old enough to get an account himself. Or just sell him to gypsies, that'll teach him WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...
ShootsBlues McAwoxer Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:44:00 - [26] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. Kids these days! They're actually thinking about things! How dare they see through my lies and not back me up in my attempt to avoid punishment for my RMTing!!!!
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1131	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:44:00 - [27] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: stuff I was about to tell you to contract me your stuff So, this is the better excuse you could come with?
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1131	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:45:00 - [28] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: Or maybe he is trolling you guys......I mean really, he couldn't be that much of a moron, could he? Main post shows it can. Also: Quote: If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Did you always left your guns and ammo at it's reach also?
EFF ONEF1 Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:47:00 - [29] - Quote i think ccp knows what they are doing and know full well that if people get set a whole bunch into negative credits that those subscriptions are potentially lost. setting you back and losing your sub weighed against the entire RMT/bot issue as a whole and what it costs them is a necessary casualty in this on going war.
EFF ONEF1 Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:49:00 - [30] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote: buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic. Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check.. your "son" disrespected the entire playerbase when they bought isk outside the approved means.
TheButcherPete Specter Syndicate CORE Alliance 125	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:52:00 - [31] - Quote Wait, you come to the Eve Forums to find morality and a helping hand? ROFL. Man up, subtract the cost of a plex out of your sons ass. My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
gfldex 476	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:55:00 - [32] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still... And your problem is what? When someone burns down your sandcaste, bring sausages.
TheButcherPete Specter Syndicate CORE Alliance 126	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:58:00 - [33] - Quote You came to the EVE Online forums looking for morals and sympathy? rofl. Man up and subtract the cost of a plex out of your son's ass. My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
seany1212 eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred 137	Posted - 2012.04.18 12:59:00 - [34] - Quote TheButcherPete wrote: You came to the EVE Online forums looking for morals and sympathy? rofl. Man up and subtract the cost of a plex out of your son's ass. Pete, Y U DOUBLE POST o//
TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 131	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:00:00 - [35] - Quote 300mil is really very little these days but here's what I'd do 1) berate child 2) extract money from child (stop pocket money, take back pocket money, make do aditional chores round the house) 3) use money to purchase a GTC legitimatly though something like shattered cyrstal 4) sell GTC on forums through ccp approved methds (probably for about a bil) 5) point out that actions have consiquences to child 6) blow stuff up.... in game
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1131	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:01:00 - [36] - Quote TheButcherPete wrote: You came to the EVE Online forums looking for morals and sympathy? rofl. Man up and subtract the cost of a plex out of your son's ass. You're repeating yourself old man
TheButcherPete Specter Syndicate CORE Alliance 126	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:02:00 - [37] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: TheButcherPete wrote: You came to the EVE Online forums looking for morals and sympathy? rofl. Man up and subtract the cost of a plex out of your son's ass. You're repeating yourself old man >.> forum phail My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
ShootsBlues McAwoxer Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:04:00 - [38] - Quote The reason the OP can't make his son pay for a plex and make this a non-issue is because he doesn't have a son and he was trying to manufacture an excuse to avoid paying the consequences for his RMTing.
Whitehound 142	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:06:00 - [39] - Quote Reads like a thread by an ISK beggar.
Lucas Schuyler Mortis Noir. Ineluctable. 10	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:11:00 - [40] - Quote Completely apart from the facepalm inducing fail of the original poster, why on earth would anyone buy ISK illegally when you can just get PLEX if you are that desperate for ISK? I mean I sort of understand the motive of the sellers who are extracting $... but what motivates buyers?
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 284	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:12:00 - [41] - Quote It's all irrelevant. If he has or hasn't got a son. It doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that an illegal activity has been performed. Either by the owner or his son is irrelevant because he admitted he gave his son access to the account. This also put him in the position of taking responcebility of any and all actions taken by his son in relation with the account. If there are merrits for a ban in regards to other EULA infractions isn't up to the playerbase. If you feel a rule has been broken you petition it and then the ones who can decide to act or not act upon it will deide what to do. And you can say it's YOUR account and YOUR son, but it's also YOUR responcebility. If you decide to accept certain rules and then decide not to follow them, then the owner of the game may decide to let you continue to have access to the game or not.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1131	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:12:00 - [42] - Quote Whitehound wrote: Reads like a thread by an ISK beggar. Good for the game, tritanium just took a +0.0001 value
Momoyo Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension 26	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:12:00 - [43] - Quote Really only 300 mill. Your can make that in like 5 hours doing incursions (less if you char is as 1337 as you make him sound.)
N'baro Dark Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:15:00 - [44] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. I find the horrid aspect to be the sheer number of people in the world today who won't take responsibility for their own actions and who raise their children to feel the same way. The rampant attitude of entitlement is sickening. Let's look at the facts: 1) You violated the EULA by sharing an account. 2) Your son, for whom you are responsible, violated the EULA by RMT. Your response? "I shouldn't be punished. Punishing me is unfair." I suppose the reason that the son doesn't play by the rules is because the role model parent has the attitude that rules don't apply to him. Sadly, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 224	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:19:00 - [45] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: ..JK** I took this to mean a joke for your whole post. As I can't believe you could seriously expect anyone on the forums to care especially under the circumstances you described.
Nemo deBlanc Phoibe Enterprises 20	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:27:00 - [46] - Quote Ooo, he bought isk! So what, goddamn you guys are treating him like the scum of the earth. Whether it was his son or not, whatever. Trolls are awful these days, you guys were at least amusing back on the old forums for a while. Anyways... OP, it's as simple as the advice given in the first couple responses. Buy a PLEX on an alt, sell it, give the 300 mil to the main. Unfortunate circumstances, but thems the breaks.
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 285	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:44:00 - [47] - Quote Nemo deBlanc wrote: Ooo, he bought isk! So what, goddamn you guys are treating him like the scum of the earth. Whether it was his son or not, whatever. Trolls are awful these days, you guys were at least amusing back on the old forums for a while. Anyways... OP, it's as simple as the advice given in the first couple responses. Buy a PLEX on an alt, sell it, give the 300 mil to the main. Unfortunate circumstances, but thems the breaks. If he truly is an old vet he already knew the solution. If not then he's hardly a vet. And yes, people who support RMT are scum of the earth for any gaming cummonity. Be it willingly support RMT or enable others to support RMT. Both is unacceptable. This isn't trolling from my part but just the harsh reality as I see it.
hermot Angels of Valour G00DFELLAS 9	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:46:00 - [48] - Quote Paying for isk is cheating. Unless its plex, then your allowing someone to subscribe to the game if they aren't able or dont need to do it with RL money. No one likes cheats
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 224	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:50:00 - [49] - Quote Nemo deBlanc wrote: Ooo, he bought isk! So what, goddamn you guys are treating him like the scum of the earth. Whether it was his son or not, whatever. Trolls are awful these days, you guys were at least amusing back on the old forums for a while. Anyways... OP, it's as simple as the advice given in the first couple responses. Buy a PLEX on an alt, sell it, give the 300 mil to the main. Unfortunate circumstances, but thems the breaks. RMTers ruin MMOs and those that buy from them are just as guilty, so they're scum. As for the op, I don't know if he has a son or not and I don't even care, he should not have allowed his account to be shared. It's as simple as that.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1131	Posted - 2012.04.18 13:55:00 - [50] - Quote Momoyo wrote: Really only 300 mill. Your can make that in like 5 hours doing incursions (less if you char is as 1337 as you make him sound.) Just because you have your regular team and can afford as much time as you want to doing this doesn't mean everyone does or can. Outside the fact that your example is a sign of lacking understanding of what and how much all other community players than yourself can or cant do for a myriad of reasons you would obviously not understand. Only thing you're right is the fact that 300mil is not a big chunk if you can afford to play 1.5 to 2 hours on a regular basis of 3 times a week.
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 479	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:02:00 - [51] - Quote I'll just go ahead and call bullshit right now. If you were busted you got an email. Nice try. 2/10 for effort. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast.
Lady Zarrina Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:03:00 - [52] - Quote Sorry, I don't think CCP has done anything wrong. As you said you have to take responsibility (which you do, you gave out your account information). I agree it may seem harsh, but I thank you for making this post. Hopefully others will learn. Also, This is Eve, you seriously didn't expect a outcry of support on these forums? This is a rough crowd, ready to pounce on the slightest sign of weakness or humane behaviour. Allocate resources to FiS
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 479	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:04:00 - [53] - Quote Also you deserve a ban for account sharing. Normally I would say IBTL but I think CCP wants this thread up to illustrate what happens. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast.
Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives 312	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:05:00 - [54] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: And yes, people who support RMT are scum of the earth for any gaming cummonity. What's your stance on sperging meatheads who didn't get a dictionary for Christmas and can't give articles their proper day in the sun? e: I love all of these people calling RMTers 'scum' - as if that's really the worst thing in the world. I suppose murderers get off with a mere 'He's been quite bad today'.
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 1538	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:11:00 - [55] - Quote Make your kid buy you the PLEX to get back out of debt on your character. He did the crime even if it was on your account. Since you are being punished for his misdeed make him pay for it. If it is only a problem of 300 mil then it should be a simple $15 bucks. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!!
Just Alter Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore 13	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:21:00 - [56] - Quote N'baro Dark wrote: Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. I find the horrid aspect to be the sheer number of people in the world today who won't take responsibility for their own actions and who raise their children to feel the same way. The rampant attitude of entitlement is sickening. Let's look at the facts: 1) You violated the EULA by sharing an account. 2) Your son, for whom you are responsible, violated the EULA by RMT. Your response? "I shouldn't be punished. Punishing me is unfair." I suppose the reason that the son doesn't play by the rules is because the role model parent has the attitude that rules don't apply to him. Sadly, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Also it's funny that people so rotten as him can do nothing more than preach about the morals of other (innocent) people. Please biomass you char, a ganker whine thread has more dignity than this.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 1537	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:22:00 - [57] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. Perhaps you shouldn't have lied to us, or complained about being punished for the multiple infractions of the EULA you commited. You created this thread looking for sympathy from us, and perhaps to leverage a little exception made for you from CCP. Bluntly, neither one is going to happen. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point. Also, I can kill you with my brain.
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 736	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:31:00 - [58] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Perhaps you shouldn't have lied to us, or complained about being punished for the multiple infractions of the EULA you commited. You created this thread looking for sympathy from us, and perhaps to leverage a little exception made for you from CCP. Bluntly, neither one is going to happen. This and moreover,if an 18 yr old guy can't pony up 20 monies,you should permaban him from your house.
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 289	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:35:00 - [59] - Quote Gorki Andropov wrote: Killer Gandry wrote: And yes, people who support RMT are scum of the earth for any gaming cummonity. What's your stance on sperging meatheads who didn't get a dictionary for Christmas and can't give articles their proper day in the sun? e: I love all of these people calling RMTers 'scum' - as if that's really the worst thing in the world. I suppose murderers get off with a mere 'He's been quite bad today'. Learn to read. Scum of the earth for any *GAMING COMMUNITY.* (thought I would make it a tad more readable for you) So you really want to discus sperging meatheads?
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 737	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:39:00 - [60] - Quote Gorki Andropov wrote: What's your stance on sperging meatheads who didn't get a dictionary for Christmas and can't give articles their proper day in the sun? e: I love all of these people calling RMTers 'scum' - as if that's really the worst thing in the world. I suppose murderers get off with a mere 'He's been quite bad today'. Sniff,sniff... Irony much?
Lyron-Baktos Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle 104	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:41:00 - [61] - Quote jesus, lot of douchebags in this thread OP, sell a Plex on your alt then transfer the money to your main toon to get out of debt. Problem solved On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3391	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:49:00 - [62] - Quote N'baro Dark wrote: Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. I find the horrid aspect to be the sheer number of people in the world today who won't take responsibility for their own actions and who raise their children to feel the same way. The rampant attitude of entitlement is sickening. Let's look at the facts: 1) You violated the EULA by sharing an account. 2) Your son, for whom you are responsible, violated the EULA by RMT. Your response? "I shouldn't be punished. Punishing me is unfair." I suppose the reason that the son doesn't play by the rules is because the role model parent has the attitude that rules don't apply to him. Sadly, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. In a nutshell. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 614	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:50:00 - [63] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote: buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic. Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check.. Allowance? Geez. Have the kid mow a few yards. Kids should mow yards for money. Gives 'em time to think. Think about what? Lotsa stuff. Plus, the kid gets the added benefit of seeing something he's accomplished. Hell, gender equality and all? No reason girls can't mows yards, too. It's good for 'em. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc 147	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:51:00 - [64] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: I feel a 0 balance would have been much fairer or at least not soul destroying. Its not like he made anything out of buying some ISK to get a ship, hell take the darn ship.. So you could instanlty launder this illegaly purchased ISK by buying goods, such as ships etc. Then when CCP catch you, instead of taking 300mil from your account and leaving you with a negative wallet, they take the remailing 10k ISK thats in your wallet, and set you to 0 ISK. You are happy because you have all your ships and have not really been punished. Your 'fairer' solution is crap. You did a bad thing by supporting RMTers and buying illegal ISK, and you should feel bad. Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Liam Mirren 448	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:00:00 - [65] - Quote So either the OP is using his "son" as an excuse or he's showing his son that if you whine enough and claim ignorance you can get out of any situation. Deal with it. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 1539	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:17:00 - [66] - Quote You see, we don't need a "Scarlet Letter" for people caught RMTing... they will happily come to the forums and humiliate themselves all on their own. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point. Also, I can kill you with my brain.
Cys Root The Oasis Group Combat Mining and Logistics 3	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:52:00 - [67] - Quote People who cheat by buying online currency for real money are despicable in any MMO but especially so in EVE as CCP provides for a way to do this legally yet these cheap assholes decide to **** up the economy only to save a few pennies.
Fractal Muse Republic University Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:59:00 - [68] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote: buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic. Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check.. Take the advice. Dock your son the cost of a plex for 'diminishing' your game experience. If he crashed your car would you not make him pay for it? If he broke your TV wouldn't you make him pay for it? This is the same thing. Make him pay for 'breaking' your game. He messed up. He fixes it. Teach your son some responsibility and some 'morality.'
Joran Dravius Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:03:00 - [69] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: My main toon has contracted a negative balance Im shocked to find today after subbing back to EVE after a lengthy break. For myself, the owner of the account since beta, have never purchased ISK illegally but find after grilling my kid, he had indeed purchased some isk last year. As the account holder I have to take responsibility I guess. But the punishment..Ohh my.!!! Clearly you don't beat your kids enough.
Ryuichi Hiroki EVE University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:11:00 - [70] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. I blame bad parenting. Ignore these idiots. Also, someone offered a reasonable and legit solution to this. so I would take it.
Jastra Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 72	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:19:00 - [71] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. Dude I'm 43 and even I think your whining.... had you done even a modicum of research then you could have solved your problem easily, instead you came here, admitted you shared your account and someone living under your roof broke the rules and you expect what.... sympathy ? - it has little to do with the state of the community here, to be honest you sound like your trolling.
admiral root Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis 52	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:24:00 - [72] - Quote OP is a half-decent troll, but he should have paid attention to previous dev posts on the topic. They've said they're not going to go back very far at all due to the manpower involved, especially as it would mean current offenders would be getting away with it. They've also recently reversed that position slightly, by stating they're going back as far as February this year. 8/10, but would have scored 9 if he'd claimed his "son" broke the rules after Feb of this year.
ITTigerClawIK Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers 107	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:25:00 - [73] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Tobiaz wrote: How big of a hole are we talking about here? The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still... one question, how did you not notice an extra 300 mill laying around your toon or at least some new expensive shiney stuff apearing from nowhere?
Mark Androcius 34	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:29:00 - [74] - Quote ITTigerClawIK wrote: one question, how did you not notice an extra 300 mill laying around your toon or at least some new expensive shiney stuff apearing from nowhere? The claim is: He was no longer playing eve, for quite some time and in that time, his son ( who was on the same IP address ) was RMTing on his own account. Don't know how much weight the claim has or could have, or if IP addresses are even relevant, but that was the claim. Now, could one of the dev's possibly lock this thread? i don't think there's much more useful that can be said here. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs.
THE L0CK Denying You Access 235	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:31:00 - [75] - Quote ITTigerClawIK wrote: Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Tobiaz wrote: How big of a hole are we talking about here? The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still... one question, how did you not notice an extra 300 mill laying around your toon or at least some new expensive shiney stuff apearing from nowhere? Think about it and think carefully, and when you realize the answer you will in fact see that a huge number of people in this thread massively fail in the reading comprehension department. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Tobias Sjodin Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 139	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:39:00 - [76] - Quote Story is too elaborate to be true tbqfh. Liars tend to overcomplicate things when they tell stories. More likely scenario is: Dude bought ISK, blames his "son" (who we don't even know exists) got caught and is now sorry he got caught so he's looking for forum sympathy. Also, it is not "YOUR" account, the account and all its contents belong to CCP. If you think that "the world has stooped" somewhere, then you should've read the EULA prior to agreeing to it. Because you are only paying for the right to play the game by the games' rules. (which you self-admittedly broke) Also all this high-horse bullshit "Oh, forumites are so disrespectful"-nonsense is so full of pseudo-righteous indignation it's not funny, take your passive aggressive nonsense someplace else. On forums like these you will get treated by your words, which frankly have left you wanting. Next time you make a booboo, don't vent it in front of an audience, they will never take your side. Because bullshit is smelt a mile away. Ronald Reagan: I do not like Sweden, they support communism. Minister: Sir, but Sweden are anti-communist, Sir.-á Ronald Reagan: I do not care what kind of communists they are.
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 521	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:50:00 - [77] - Quote face palm You're blaming your kid? It's like blaming the dog when you fart a really ripe one! Jesus wept! We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 618	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:54:00 - [78] - Quote My dog figured out how to get my pizza off the stove and soon he will know how to buy RMT'd ISK. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec
Asuka Solo Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises 1424	Posted - 2012.04.18 17:15:00 - [79] - Quote You obviously pay 1 or more subs of $15 a month... Yet you can solve this debt issue with a single one time $20 purchase. And your moaning on these forums why exactly.....
Devil's Call Perkone Caldari State 746	Posted - 2012.04.18 17:37:00 - [80] - Quote Heh, I expected that you had a debt of tens of billions. -300 mil... seriously? If you play this game since beta you can earn that amount in a day? If not, buy a GTC or plex and you're done. Accept the fact that you made a mistake and don't whine about CCP's righteousness on the forums.
Potamus Jenkins The Lucky Bible Company 80	Posted - 2012.04.18 17:44:00 - [81] - Quote lol taking responsibility not really taking (financial) responsibility. then you say its 300 million... 300 million seriously? SERIOUSLY this has to be a troll. buy 1 plex and you are not only back in the positive you are actually in the green lol. terrible terrible post. 300 million...smh
Pohbis Neo T.E.C.H. 10	Posted - 2012.04.18 17:46:00 - [82] - Quote CCP does IP-bans for some violations. They ban the kids account, they'll catch the fathers account in the same net. This actually begs the question, what is CCPs policy on this? Violations go against the account-holder. But some of their measures can actually punish another account holder in the same household GÇô or on a shared network.
Tri Vetra Ascetic Virtues 40	Posted - 2012.04.18 17:51:00 - [83] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: And yes, people who support RMT are scum of the earth for any gaming cummonity. Be it willingly support RMT or enable others to support RMT. Both is unacceptable. This isn't trolling from my part but just the harsh reality as I see it. people who buy isk are literally al quada if reagan was alive right now this won't have been a problem praise jesus
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 214	Posted - 2012.04.18 18:10:00 - [84] - Quote OP, Well I wish I could feel sorry for you but based on your post. I am having a hard time believing any bit of your story. If it is true .....maybe you should let your wife deal with all the bills and any important desicions cause just WOW.
Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives 314	Posted - 2012.04.18 18:24:00 - [85] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: Gorki Andropov wrote: Killer Gandry wrote: And yes, people who support RMT are scum of the earth for any gaming cummonity. What's your stance on sperging meatheads who didn't get a dictionary for Christmas and can't give articles their proper day in the sun? e: I love all of these people calling RMTers 'scum' - as if that's really the worst thing in the world. I suppose murderers get off with a mere 'He's been quite bad today'. Learn to read. Scum of the earth for any *GAMING COMMUNITY.* (thought I would make it a tad more readable for you) So you really want to discus sperging meatheads? I notice you didn't offer any sort of rebuttal to my first point. Thanks!
Xercodo Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition 1020	Posted - 2012.04.18 18:39:00 - [86] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. Yes this is what we were trying to tell you. And CCP has been this way from the beginning iirc. The reasoning for this is because of the relationship CCP has with your bank account an such. The other problem is that the nature of EVE means that account sharing is VERY prone to theft and so if you were to claim that items were missing or that your account was stolen altogether then CCP would have even more reason to not help you and just ban you cause you broke the rules to prevent it in the first place. What you can do like others has stated is to buy a PLEX (with your son's money of course) and sell it on the market using an alt or a corp wallet and then transfer it over to the effected character. You should be 200 mill or so in the green. The purpose of the punishment in the form of a negative wallet is to make it VERY clear to NOT ever do it. Hell you could even make your son earn it back by making him rat in belts or do some missions or something. As for the attitude you're getting from this thread, well I think you're getting a negative response from us cause we're picking up a bit of a self-entitlement complex from you. If you've played EVE as long as you say that account has been open you'd already know this about the community. We're both one of the most helpful and ruthless communities the internet has to offer for a gaming community. ESPECIALLY when talking in places like GD or CAOD. You'd likely have had a MUCH better response in the New Citizen's Q&A and even though you aren't a "New Citizen" by any means it doesn't mean you can't ask questions there. I will admit though, NCQ&A still has its trolls and you'll have to take some advice with a grain of salt but most of us in there genuinely want to help. I guess we just sometimes like to reprimand you a little bit to make it stick :P The Drake is a Lie
Whambot Caldari Provisions Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.04.18 18:42:00 - [87] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. I love how you go right to the "kids these days" stereotype. You're just clueless about the EVE forums. Most video game forums are flame wars but EVE's is probably one of the worst. The majority of EVE players I've run in to are in their 20s-30s (myself included) many with children of their own. Generalizing doesnt make you look any better. Posting this and not expecting a negative response is like going on Jerry Springer and expecting a thoughful, openminded discussion. I'm suprised you ONLY got debted 300mil. In any other game your account would have been banned no questions asked so count yourself thankful, CCP has already been kind to you as far as I can tell.
Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2012.04.18 19:53:00 - [88] - Quote I have not read all the posts, but a lot. My questions is whether or not the ability to sell/xfer the toons on the account was locked due to this infraction? I'm just curious. As far as compensating for the fines: no big deal. If you have a BS, run L4s. If you're paranoid about incurring losses, run L3s in your BS. I'm sure you have some resources left over, so use them. Ratz drop reppers so you can repair for free. Really, grind thorugh some L4s and you'll be in the black again soon and saving for pirate mods...
Ch3244 Azule Dragoons Sspectre 85	Posted - 2012.04.18 20:14:00 - [89] - Quote ill jita trade u 300 mil for some nice things
Sidrun Life sucks then you die Ltd. 5	Posted - 2012.04.18 20:16:00 - [90] - Quote If Eve Online had even a good fraction of the subs that say WoW has, the game would be an unplayable mess, and I'm sure CCP knows that. There's a reason WoW has a zillion servers.
Micheal Dietrich Standards and Practices 294	Posted - 2012.04.18 20:18:00 - [91] - Quote Sidrun wrote: If Eve Online had even a good fraction of the subs that say WoW has, the game would be an unplayable mess, and I'm sure CCP knows that. There's a reason WoW has a zillion servers. The ****... What a random statement.
Alua Oresson Demon-War-Lords BLACK-MARK 103	Posted - 2012.04.18 20:19:00 - [92] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. You allow your son to play the game. He engages in RMT on your account. Then you come on the forums crying about the ramifications of what your son has done and expect a positive response? You should be grateful that your account wasn't permabanned. As an FYI, your account is negative because all the money that was RMT'd was taken back. Since you are such an old character you should have friends that could help you out. I'm sure they will understand that it was your son that was the RMT and not you. It is also a good thing you talked about this on the forums. No halfway decent corp will take you now after a forum search.
Herping yourDerp Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 513	Posted - 2012.04.18 21:31:00 - [93] - Quote make a new account and character steal $30 from kids wallet buy plex on alt, sell plex in game you will now have 1bil on the alt send 1bil to your old account with the negative 300mil you will now have isk. congratz.. since its such a small ammount i assume you are telling the truth, who buys a few hundred mill isk anyway.
Ai Shun 658	Posted - 2012.04.18 22:39:00 - [94] - Quote I am not a fan of people that engage in RMT. They hurt the economy of the games they play and have a negative impact on my experience and that of other players. Foisting the blame on another person that have gained access to the account through yourself against the Terms of Service / End User License Agreement does not matter. It just seems like an attempt to deflect the blame. No sympathy here.
Markus Reese Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION 126	Posted - 2012.04.18 22:55:00 - [95] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world. If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far.. Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response. The main reason they don't zero balance is that in terms of RMT, it wouldn't really be a punishment since if a person spends said isk, there might not be any loss. giving the direct loss means that it cannot be bypassed or abused. As for the EULA, it is possible they would enforce, but not likely. By putting such a clause in, it negates issues that arrive from account sharing and ccp responsibility for security, losses, etc.
Raiz Nhell DEEP CORPS 86	Posted - 2012.04.18 23:00:00 - [96] - Quote I'm sorry, you're here whinging about the punishment you received for cheating, and you think there is a lack of respect? I'm pretty sure you need to look a little bit closer to the keyboard to find a lack of respect. Cheaters get all the respect they deserve, whinging cheaters get slightly less. I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow... Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail
ChaseTheLasers Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire 33	Posted - 2012.04.18 23:52:00 - [97] - Quote 300M? My offer: Singing to www.nyan.cat for 5 minutes straight and posting the video on YouTube = 300M Waiting till your son is asleep and throwing the biggest bucket of cold water you can over him while shouting "Thats for RMTing you nugget" - Youtubed again = 300M If you and your son sing to nyan cat together, for 5 minutes straight, I'll offer 400M. He has to put his heart and soul into it. Anything less than him looking like he is going to pass out at the end is not acceptable. Yes, I'm serious. I'll even offer to use a trusted 3rd party to hold the ISK so you can be sure you will be out of your negative balance. Just post a reply. If others want to chip into the pot, feel free.
Justice Comes Republic University Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.04.19 00:29:00 - [98] - Quote I say it all the time... never ever let your kids use any of your stuff, esPECIALLY your computer. They cannot be trusted! If your story is true, what we have here is a classic case of a Parent Tax. These hidden fees will crop up from time to time, but always lead back to the bad decision to have children. :p Google Chrome could not load the webpage because forums.eveonline.com took too long to respond. The website may be down, or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
Ch3244 Azule Dragoons Sspectre 85	Posted - 2012.04.19 01:38:00 - [99] - Quote jita 4-4 msg me. ill trade u the isk you need for some nice loot.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 603	Posted - 2012.04.19 01:41:00 - [100] - Quote lol! Tool. Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Katja Faith Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2012.04.19 01:41:00 - [101] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote: buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic. Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check.. WTF have you done to earn (yeah, EARN) anyone's respect? Buying ISK? Yeah, that'll earn you heaps of respect. Biomass, delete account, open new account with different credit card. Problem solved (until "your son" buys more isk).
Kietay Ayari Caldari State 337	Posted - 2012.04.19 02:44:00 - [102] - Quote c: This was a good threat. So many EVElets making sure criminals do not escape! I wish I was from beta and had -300m ISK. Ferox #1
Ai Shun 660	Posted - 2012.04.19 02:50:00 - [103] - Quote Pohbis wrote: CCP does IP-bans for some violations. They ban the kids account, they'll catch the fathers account in the same net. I would be very, very surprised if this happens. Two primary reasons: (a) NAT type devices that can potentially cover a large number of subscribers (b) IP re-allocation for non-static IP addresses If they were doing an IP-ban instead of handling it through account / other intelligence it would signal they do not know anything about the IP protocol and how various devices work on a public network. And I sincerely doubt CCP would be in that position.
Pok Nibin Viziam Amarr Empire 121	Posted - 2012.04.19 02:53:00 - [104] - Quote Shocking. Indeed. Indeed. Shocking. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to.
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 160	Posted - 2012.04.19 02:53:00 - [105] - Quote Caeled Vorchaz wrote: Tobiaz wrote: How big of a hole are we talking about here? The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still... Force your son to mine 300M worth of trit with a tial account alt. That is more then enough punishment ( 2 months ago with the crappy price of trit it'd been a much worse punishment ) To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
supersexysucker Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur 68	Posted - 2012.04.19 03:23:00 - [106] - Quote So wait, let me get this right.. You account shared (EULA says you cant) You are crying about the person you account shared with buying is It would seem one of two things You had a 0 wallet and are now -300m (so only 300m was bought You had a + wallet, and do not care about the rest of the money being taken Or SCAMMMMMM Also yes you are a ******... how did this kid buy isk? He haz plastic? I can't say I been to many RMT sites but I would think they only take like paypal, credit card... etc.. So really one or all of you are just retards... GJ getting your char like black listed from most corps lol is this kid like 25 LOL. Go cry where people care. CCP needs to like ban you for account sharing now... I want to see the tear thread from that.

CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance 1435	Posted - 2012.04.19 06:39:00 - [107] - Quote Please use the petition system to resolve issues such as these with our customer support. Thread locked. CCP Spitfire \| Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire


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