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Master Zeuth	Posted - 2009.01.20 23:42:00 - [1] Curious on what the chances are of new playable races(no not jovians either)? And if so a time frame? 6 months/1 year/decade?
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.20 23:43:00 - [2] Edited by: Qordel on 20/01/2009 23:43:48 Exactly how would you write a new race into EVE that just magically appears after all of the established back story at this point? --
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2009.01.20 23:45:00 - [3] Originally by: Qordel Edited by: Qordel on 20/01/2009 23:43:48 Exactly how would you write a new race into EVE that just magically appears after all of the established back story at this point? Hey guys! Look what I found in this wormhole! ---- ≡v≡
Clair Bear Perkone	Posted - 2009.01.20 23:48:00 - [4] Fedo mutations. Here's our chance to one-up Achura with an even LOWER charisma and ever more hideous logon portrait. Every minmaxer will roll at least one.
Master Zeuth	Posted - 2009.01.20 23:52:00 - [5] Originally by: Qordel Edited by: Qordel on 20/01/2009 23:43:48 Exactly how would you write a new race into EVE that just magically appears after all of the established back story at this point? It could be done easily as long as it doesn't conflict with the current lore. Theres alot out in New Eden that is still unknown so another race or two wont break the storyline. Also with the addition of wormholes could infact bring in new races considering thats how New Eden became what it is now.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.01.20 23:55:00 - [6] You kids and your future new race alts
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.20 23:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Master Zeuth Originally by: Qordel Edited by: Qordel on 20/01/2009 23:43:48 Exactly how would you write a new race into EVE that just magically appears after all of the established back story at this point? It could be done easily as long as it doesn't conflict with the current lore. Theres alot out in New Eden that is still unknown so another race or two wont break the storyline. Also with the addition of wormholes could infact bring in new races considering thats how New Eden became what it is now. Right, but how are you going to write it in as to why they just magically appear in the currently known 5,000 systems? Unless wormholes are going to lead us to an entirely new set of dozens or hundreds or thousands of solar systems with an explanation as to why they had previously not bothered to set out into any of the currently known 5,000. --
Master Zeuth	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Qordel Right, but how are you going to write it in as to why they just magically appear in the currently known 5,000 systems? Unless wormholes are going to lead us to an entirely new set of dozens or hundreds or thousands of solar systems with an explanation as to why they had previously not bothered to set out into any of the currently known 5,000. So pretty much what your stating is that just because its not currently in the storyline that nothing else can be added? Plus there are cases if you run missions or read datalogs that drop from rats of reports of UFOs though most people dont notice these because most dont actually take the time to read them. Also to my understandings wormholes will be more or less natural and not man made which means how could these races reach any one of the 5,000 known systems before hand?
Vendrin Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Qordel Edited by: Qordel on 20/01/2009 23:43:48 Exactly how would you write a new race into EVE that just magically appears after all of the established back story at this point? You mean like the Jin Mei, Achura, and Vherokior? Which we still don't have an explanation for?
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:14:00 - [10] Originally by: Vendrin Originally by: Qordel Edited by: Qordel on 20/01/2009 23:43:48 Exactly how would you write a new race into EVE that just magically appears after all of the established back story at this point? You mean like the Jin Mei, Achura, and Vherokior? Which we still don't have an explanation for? Those are merely bloodlines. Not exactly the same as "oh, hey look at this fifth race over here!".
Master Zeuth	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:18:00 - [11] Originally by: Qordel Those are merely bloodlines. Not exactly the same as "oh, hey look at this fifth race over here!". Bloodlines are races? Or am I wrong here? These different races fight for the same faction? Yes?
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Master Zeuth Originally by: Qordel Those are merely bloodlines. Not exactly the same as "oh, hey look at this fifth race over here!". Bloodlines are races? Or am I wrong here? These different races fight for the same faction? Yes? That's not the way I have always understood it, but perhaps you're right. --
Kaahles n0thing Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:23:00 - [13] Edited by: Kaahles on 21/01/2009 00:24:07 Guys be creative... New Scanner technology just made it possible a short time ago to even detect those wormholes which are pretty unstable and switch their location at random. After a few weeks of work scientists modified the propulsion and shield systems of most ships to make it possible to travel through those wormholes. And then... a new race.. omg how could it happen we never met them? They just haven't developed FTL yet? They don't have our amazing scanners? There was a giant fleet of generational ships caught in the wormhole decades ago while trying to reach the other side and now they are finally free because some explorers found them and where able to rescue them? The just don't care about wormholes and never bothered to investigate them? The possibilities are endless on how to introduce them the problem is just... a new race, that never visited new eden before would bring some unique technology with them. Stuff like new weapon system, own ships and hell who knows what kind of fancy entertainment stuff. So we would need new ships and modules and maybe even weapons, to develop them would take a lot of time and manpower... Oh wait... did anyone say who developed the new T3 stuff yet? Possible: yes / likely to be soon: no just my 2 cent edit: some spelling stuff ----------------------------- OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Contract me all your stuff so I can save it!
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:24:00 - [14] Plenty of ways a new race could be introduced like coming across a unknown civilisation or maybe a separatist group from the existing factions like could set up shop in some new regions and begin to form their own culture with unique ship and combat philosophy.
Master Zeuth	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:45:00 - [15] The addition of a new playable race would in fact mean the addition of 2 races so it would be able to counter the other. This would be a major addition probably the largest since it would have to be new space, 2 new styles of weaponry(since right now each faction has 2 distinct forms of weapons ie Matari=AC/Artillery, Gall=Blasters/Drones, Caldari=Rails/Missiles, and Amarr=Pulse/Beam) Also the addition of 20 t1 ships plus x amount of t2/t3 variants. I would think that would be more worth the man hours then WIS. But maybe thats just me.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:50:00 - [16] not happening , be done with your achura
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2009.01.21 00:59:00 - [17] I would totally roll an Ogrechura
Lt Shard Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2009.01.21 01:22:00 - [18] Short answer: 0%
Finnroth Caldari The Guardian Agency Guardian Federation	Posted - 2009.01.21 01:31:00 - [19] Could it be done? Lore wise pretty easily, there's enough stuff you could that explain with. Will it be done? Probably not, there's a ridicolous small chance that they will implement Jove one day, but beyond that i don't think they will do something like that. The older the game gets, the more complicated it is to establish a new race within the current boundaries. There's just a huuuuuge amount of ships and stuff to do, you would have to give them unique abilitys like special EWAR, maby even a new damage type to be able to still use the current system and so on and so forth. Additional to that, you would have to make a whole lot of new content for WiS aswell. So long story short: We will probably never see new races.
SengH Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.01.21 01:36:00 - [20] I'd say the chances of CCP finally giving up and canning minmatar as a playable race is higher.
Heyte	Posted - 2009.01.21 01:41:00 - [21] Edited by: Heyte on 21/01/2009 01:41:43 Originally by: Master Zeuth Originally by: Qordel Those are merely bloodlines. Not exactly the same as "oh, hey look at this fifth race over here!". Bloodlines are races? Or am I wrong here? These different races fight for the same faction? Yes? His point is, the bloodlines just sprang out of nowhere. They suddenly moved from their planets into space immediately, rather then gradually. This is all lorewise. Also, for new races, if they were to make one, here's hoping terrans.
Frozen Fallout Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.01.21 01:52:00 - [22] Edited by: Frozen Fallout on 21/01/2009 01:53:49 Originally by: Qordel Edited by: Qordel on 20/01/2009 23:43:48 Exactly how would you write a new race into EVE that just magically appears after all of the established back story at this point? My question is if they are not going to introduce a new race to New Eden then what the hell are the rats that we will be killing with this whole new AI in these worm holes? My guess is the new rats and story line arcs are going to be about a new race now if this will be playable or not is another question but adding new races in a space game will never be a problem. I am guessing star gates don't reach every system in EvE. I know they don't lead to any new Galaxies so there are an infinite amount of places to pull races from, from a writers point of view adding is always easier then taking away from an established story element.
Spurty Caldari Technologic Dance	Posted - 2009.01.21 01:58:00 - [23] Edited by: Spurty on 21/01/2009 02:02:46 #!/usr/bin/perl @foren=("Civ","Det","Ach", "Int","Gall","Jin", "Ama","Ni","Khan", "Brut","Seb","Vher"); @surn=("ire","eis","Ach", "aki","ente","-Mei", "rr","-kunni","id", "or","iestor","okior"); $x=0; foreach $first(@foren) { foreach $last(@surn) { $x++; print "$x : $first$last\n"; } } exit 0; Have a poll, pick 3! (Ignore the existing ones turning up, its part of the sequence) 1 : Civire 2 : Civeis 3 : CivAch 4 : Civaki 5 : Civente 6 : Civ-Mei 7 : Civrr 8 : Civ-kunni 9 : Civid 10 : Civor 11 : Civiestor 12 : Civokior 13 : Detire 14 : Deteis 15 : DetAch 16 : Detaki 17 : Detente 18 : Det-Mei 19 : Detrr 20 : Det-kunni 21 : Detid 22 : Detor 23 : Detiestor 24 : Detokior 25 : Achire 26 : Acheis 27 : AchAch 28 : Achaki 29 : Achente 30 : Ach-Mei 31 : Achrr 32 : Ach-kunni 33 : Achid 34 : Achor 35 : Achiestor 36 : Achokior 37 : Intire 38 : Inteis 39 : IntAch 40 : Intaki 41 : Intente 42 : Int-Mei 43 : Intrr 44 : Int-kunni 45 : Intid 46 : Intor 47 : Intiestor 48 : Intokior 49 : Gallire 50 : Galleis 51 : GallAch 52 : Gallaki 53 : Gallente 54 : Gall-Mei 55 : Gallrr 56 : Gall-kunni 57 : Gallid 58 : Gallor 59 : Galliestor 60 : Gallokior 61 : Jinire 62 : Jineis 63 : JinAch 64 : Jinaki 65 : Jinente 66 : Jin-Mei 67 : Jinrr 68 : Jin-kunni 69 : Jinid 70 : Jinor 71 : Jiniestor 72 : Jinokior 73 : Amaire 74 : Amaeis 75 : AmaAch 76 : Amaaki 77 : Amaente 78 : Ama-Mei 79 : Amarr 80 : Ama-kunni 81 : Amaid 82 : Amaor 83 : Amaiestor 84 : Amaokior 85 : Niire 86 : Nieis 87 : NiAch 88 : Niaki 89 : Niente 90 : Ni-Mei 91 : Nirr 92 : Ni-kunni 93 : Niid 94 : Nior 95 : Niiestor 96 : Niokior 97 : Khanire 98 : Khaneis 99 : KhanAch 100 : Khanaki 101 : Khanente 102 : Khan-Mei 103 : Khanrr 104 : Khan-kunni 105 : Khanid 106 : Khanor 107 : Khaniestor 108 : Khanokior 109 : Brutire 110 : Bruteis 111 : BrutAch 112 : Brutaki 113 : Brutente 114 : Brut-Mei 115 : Brutrr 116 : Brut-kunni 117 : Brutid 118 : Brutor 119 : Brutiestor 120 : Brutokior 121 : Sebire 122 : Sebeis 123 : SebAch 124 : Sebaki 125 : Sebente 126 : Seb-Mei 127 : Sebrr 128 : Seb-kunni 129 : Sebid 130 : Sebor 131 : Sebiestor 132 : Sebokior 133 : Vherire 134 : Vhereis 135 : VherAch 136 : Vheraki 137 : Vherente 138 : Vher-Mei 139 : Vherrr 140 : Vher-kunni 141 : Vherid 142 : Vheror 143 : Vheriestor 144 : Vherokior BrRAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiNNNNNNZzzzzzzzzzzz
Spurty Caldari Technologic Dance	Posted - 2009.01.21 02:00:00 - [24] Yes, I know that some of these combinations are male+male and female+female, its sci-fi, anything can happen! BrRAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiNNNNNNZzzzzzzzzzzz
Sythyss Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen	Posted - 2009.01.21 08:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Master Zeuth Originally by: Qordel Those are merely bloodlines. Not exactly the same as "oh, hey look at this fifth race over here!". Bloodlines are races? Or am I wrong here? These different races fight for the same faction? Yes? wow....lol bloodlines are NOT races. get your facts straight ---------------------------
Heyte	Posted - 2009.01.21 08:44:00 - [26] Edited by: Heyte on 21/01/2009 08:45:20 Well, terran are male/female. They're ordinary humans from earth. Earth would be on scale with jovians or perhaps more godly. Or perhaps dystopic and corporate, if the peaceful originally new eden never allowed a head start for these humans. Or... maybe they'll be like the ladder with the addition of being akin to those turkish/chinese/english humans from south park (the ones that came from the future).
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.01.21 08:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Master Zeuth Curious on what the chances are of new playable races(no not jovians either)? And if so a time frame? 6 months/1 year/decade? Absolutely unlikely. Chances are zero. And why would we want new races anyway? How would they fit into the storyline? And how would they fit into the industry? What role would they fill? Making a new race makes no sense, is immense work and has no benefits at all. If there would be expansions regarding races then they might come with more a couple more bloodlines. For example would it be not unreasonable to introduce shady (piratebased) bloodlines for each of the races.
Heyte	Posted - 2009.01.21 08:50:00 - [28] Edited by: Heyte on 21/01/2009 08:50:51 Making a new race is a matter of - 1. New models. 2. New textures. 3. New attribute and skill mash up and new numbers to accomodate art. 4. New 2d art. That's it. Adding new features like wormholes to eve is a matter of: 1. New method. 2. New models. 3. New textures. 4. New gameplay elements, new environment spawn points, new background art. So really what ccp decides to add is just a matter of what they decide to add. Not what's easier. Did anyone ask for wormholes prior to this? I'm pretty sure ccp just said at an executive meeting at one point, "Let's add wormholes, that'd be cool. Oh, we'll throw in a bunch of new elements. Represent a new point to work on. Notify the public in, from this schedule... 2 months time, once we're well into it and there's no going back." Democracy only thins the chaos to something 'manageable'. Inevitably, there's still chaos in what occurs. Chaos always prevails.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.01.21 08:53:00 - [29] As long as they're not aliens - Infectious -
Quark Zulu	Posted - 2009.01.21 09:19:00 - [30] Devblog by Oveur November 3. Quote: Frankly, having such huge things like Walking in Stations, player housing, new races, planetary interaction, new environments, professions, new tech levels, and improving all the current functionality with an infinite universe in which to design, weære having difficulties putting them all in. Apocrypha meaning being hidden away. My bet is that the Jovian¦s are coming to a PC near you on March 10. Cheers

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