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Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2012.04.21 23:25:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
That's an odd thing for CCP Soundwave to say.
When CCP Soundwave actually hates something it is REMOVED FROM THE GAME in one patch with no attempt to balance out the negative effects it will have on viability of whole regions of space.
You know, the Drone Mineral Nerf.
So it's really strange that he hates it but seems oddly powerless to actually get rid of it. Given his willingness to send the economy into chaos because "mining needs to be important because it does".
And Drone Mineral Nerf was worse than a mistake.
It was removal of content.
Well, the main focus definitely seems to be getting rid of non industrial industry of the low/null materials. Back to needing a solid industry base to run large and high tech production. The moon minerals are simply too hardcoded to probably remove from industry so instead will be moved. Mining will likely end up being a roving system. The way described, it might also be safer since there will be scannable locations. Scanning requirements does give attentive groups time to hide.
As for the removal of drone poo, I did a bit on that here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98759 |
Celi Annor
LaMar Associates
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Posted - 2012.04.22 22:59:00 -
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200k |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.23 01:12:00 -
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Lord Dravius wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Lord Dravius wrote:Ai Shun wrote:evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer! Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else! Or were you after a reward without having to work for it? That's just like they lies they tell us in real life. Old money always wins. You can't go up against the hundreds of titans the alliances will throw at you. Yep, just the elite players of Band of Brothers. Only lost after their devhax were taken away. The current alliances still have have their version of T2 BPOs, tech moons. Also, your average big alliance now has more capitals than even existed back then.
also Google drone clusterfuck
what is it 190 rifters every secone's worth of money generated by Goonie tech moons? a Titan every day and a half?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.23 01:23:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:also Google drone clusterfuck
what is it 190 rifters every secone's worth of money generated by Goonie tech moons? a Titan every day and a half?
I'm told we could lose one a second, 190 sounds a bit too massive...
As for titans, they are subsidized but not (I think) straight-out paid for by alliance. There's enough rich people about to keep the CSAAs busy, or so I hear. Bringing blobs to tit-
Wait, titans has always been about blobbing, haha~
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Calorn Marthor
Standard Fuel Company
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Posted - 2012.04.23 14:43:00 -
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I have but one problem with the current Technetium bottleneck.
It is not the regional distribution - different areas with different value are fine.
It is not the fact that individals or small corps are not likely to have access.
It is not that moons are passive income.
My problem is that the total output of Technetium in the universe is FIXED.
It is highly unlikely that someone will stumble over an unused Technetium-Moon, so basically this goo is produced at a fixed rate - if all towers are operational (and the rate is probably something like 25,000 per hour).
Now this output determines the MAXIMUM T2 PRODUCTION of the galaxy.
And no one can do anything against it. The only way to save Technetium is to fly ships that need relatively small amounts.
The production can't be increased.
Even worse: the more valuable the stuff is, the more likely conflicts will arise that put Tech-Towers in reinforced mode and reduce the production EVEN MORE!
I hope the upcoming changes to moon materials address this issue.
Imo the moons could still stay as passive income sources for large entities.
But there has to be another way to get this material, even if that means much more effort (at current price levels it would even be profitable to run a POS that can only extract 1 Technetium per hour!)
Compare Technetium to Oil in the real world - once the price goes up, people can invent new technologies to get more oil - just they are not AS efficient. |
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