And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!

Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?

dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ?

Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....

Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....

I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....

I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....

I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....

You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it.

Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....

Indeed. I can't claim a whole system in null just because I want it. I'll need to get some friends, try and take it off an existing group. Or perhaps organise a deal with somebody. Or work within the sandbox to try and achieve it.

What I should not do is come to the forums and bleat because somebody else was willing to put in the organisation and effort to get something and I can't have it

You make it sound like one person is getting all the goo from the moons they have.

Also,
You're more than welcome to go out and drop a pos on a moon and mine it.
You'll need to work out if there's profit in it first though.

This is also doable solo although it's considerably easier if you have friends.

What, so it is impossible to claim a system anymore? When did CCP remove that feature?

Oh.

Right.

You're in the lazy "gimme" brigade. Sod off and go play WoW. It might be more suited to you. There they give you candy for logging in and Epics for managing to turn your character around.

GD Troll Top 5 - April 2012

1. scooter Kondur (Hall of Fame member #192)
2. Indawmarmar Fazmararardurrwhine
3. evereplicant
4. DarthNefarius
5. masternerdguy

Congratulations! You have reached a spot among legendarily bad posters.

You can improve your chances to claim #1 fame by adding even more CAPITALIZATION and stupid. Your strength is unreserved 0.0 hatred, combine that with general PVP hatred and some Mittani bashing, and you might be well on your way to the top spot!

Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....

By that postt you should of been way above me.. i demand a recount.. I love pvp just dont like lamers, losers and bears... i think that fits in nicely with 0.0, pvp and mittani? amirite?

Dont worry about what im doing, i mean if you are counting trolls, you need to get out more and worry about where yur life is heading..

UPDATE!

Issler Dainze took over your spot by a STORMING attack on GD, resulting in immediate locks. Unfortunately your post includes too much sensible content to hold position - better luck next month.

I thank you for the honourable mention, it's nice to get some recognition. Unfortunately I still feel I have a long way to go :/

We shouldnt just talk about techs months even prom and dyspro moons

Indeed. I can't claim a whole system in null just because I want it. I'll need to get some friends, try and take it off an existing group. Or perhaps organise a deal with somebody. Or work within the sandbox to try and achieve it.

What I should not do is come to the forums and bleat because somebody else was willing to put in the organisation and effort to get something and I can't have it

And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!

It is not a point of working for it at all. So calm down and take some valium sonny. The plain FACT is that these alliances have built up a massive resource over yes a few years, but eve a few years ago was a completely different beast! and whole lot less players, capitals etc etc. Eve is now saturated. It is IMPOSSIBLE and thats a FACT for anyone to build up an alliance with out being a pet, and then geting no moons anyway for being a pet. People simply dont have 100s of caps, supers, titans thats now needed to take a moon in their back pocket jeez! Dont you understand that simple matter?
I remember when all you had was a 50-100 man fleet of BS to kill a POS and some dreads. Not like that anymore! Each BS has now been replaced by a titan or a super FACT
All the large alliances are people who have played the game for along time (well the leaders mainly) but people like NCDOT have all the old tri players from years ago etc. They have just been recycled into another alliance. Its difficult recruiting nevermind trying to build up an alliance to takeon the big boys.

I mean look at Evoke, NCDOT, Raiden all very very established alliances wiht supers, titans etc all struggles to keep the tech moons in Venal, and its not come to a stage where there is a pact in place! So please GTFO coming out with get an army and go take a moon BS!

I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....

It is not a point of working for it at all. So calm down and take some valium sonny. The plain FACT is that these alliances have built up a massive resource over yes a few years, but eve a few years ago was a completely different beast! and whole lot less players, capitals etc etc. Eve is now saturated. It is IMPOSSIBLE and thats a FACT for anyone to build up an alliance with out being a pet, and then geting no moons anyway for being a pet. People simply dont have 100s of caps, supers, titans thats now needed to take a moon in their back pocket jeez! Dont you understand that simple matter?
I remember when all you had was a 50-100 man fleet of BS to kill a POS and some dreads. Not like that anymore! Each BS has now been replaced by a titan or a super FACT
All the large alliances are people who have played the game for along time (well the leaders mainly) but people like NCDOT have all the old tri players from years ago etc. They have just been recycled into another alliance. Its difficult recruiting nevermind trying to build up an alliance to takeon the big boys.

I mean look at Evoke, NCDOT, Raiden all very very established alliances wiht supers, titans etc all struggles to keep the tech moons in Venal, and its not come to a stage where there is a pact in place! So please GTFO coming out with get an army and go take a moon BS!

So you acknowledge the fact that it took years for the current powerblocks to form and rise to where they are now. But you are somehow special and you want to be there right now without going through the same process.

So are you essentially saying you believe the current moon mineral situation is "fine" in your eyes?

Moons all need to come to high sec.

How about a new rule, each corporation is allowed a maximum of 300 members and each alliance can only consist out of 4 corporations.

You can play around with those numbers, if you don't feel they're adequate, but it will make Null fun again ( i think ).

If there's a hard cap to how many players an alliance can have, there will be more alliances and more corporations fighting over the same space, making null something entire blogs are written about once again.

Right now ( so far as i can tell ), there's about 3 maybe 4 alliances that control most of null and a few alliances that control the rest off and on.

Those 3 or 4, are simply to big to take on.
Once that's no longer the case.............. well, i think i said enough.

What exactly are you a doctor of?

This pretty much puts things into perspective for all though deluded morons saying "Get a gang together and go take some of the pie"

Yeah, I would love to see how that works out when 20 caps are dropped on you just for the lols, get a grip you lot, lets remember that these guys make a living from holding space, it's what they use to feed their families, Goo is the major contributor to RMT, they take this stuff more than seriously, it's not a game to them.

Moons all need to come to high sec.

Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?

This is the single most idiotic reply I've ever read. EVER.

Someone's never left high sec / jita 4-4 I see

what up n c bro

It has been said, many other comments of moons, but watch the eve keynote.

Soundwave hates the moon ATM, "set up pos, and cha ching, cha ching"

They want moon mins to be alot more findable when they instigate more involved mining.

That's an odd thing for CCP Soundwave to say.

When CCP Soundwave actually hates something it is REMOVED FROM THE GAME in one patch with no attempt to balance out the negative effects it will have on viability of whole regions of space.

You know, the Drone Mineral Nerf.

So it's really strange that he hates it but seems oddly powerless to actually get rid of it. Given his willingness to send the economy into chaos because "mining needs to be important because it does".

And Drone Mineral Nerf was worse than a mistake.

It was removal of content.

Drone nerf fallback = Mining
Moon mineral fallback = ?

If there was another system for doing it already in place then yes, I can see it happening regardless of the consequences, but there isn't and coming up with something new isn't something they do quickly.

Drone nerf fallback = Mining
Moon mineral fallback = ?

If there was another system for doing it already in place then yes, I can see it happening regardless of the consequences, but there isn't and coming up with something new isn't something they do quickly.

NC. didn't want those tech moons in Venal, let them be.

In order to fight for tech moons you need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet you need tech moons (or bots which are illegal).

Enough said

Luv2Hotdrop Titans.

eve isnt broken, stop trying to fix it

Tech moon imbalance/bottleneck is an admitted problem.

Problem = things aren't right = EVE broken/borked.

CCP has already admitted that it is a problem and needs fixing.

Your argument is invalid.

What's a tech moon?

Tech is CCP's way of paying off large Alliance's leadership for wasting their lives on this game...

When my alliance wanted something you know what we did? We went out and got it. That's how it works. You make friends, you get nice things. If something is valuable, of course the large alliances will take them. They have the manpower to take and hold the moons they have. You don't. CCP doesn't want balance. They don't want everyone to have a piece of the pie. They want you to look at someone else, say you want what they have, and then try to take it. Balance is bad, and monkeys are good.

And I loves me some stealth bombers and projected A.O.E? Yes please!

When my alliance wanted something you know what we did? We went out and got it. That's how it works. You make friends, you get nice things. If something is valuable, of course the large alliances will take them. They have the manpower to take and hold the moons they have. You don't. CCP doesn't want balance. They don't want everyone to have a piece of the pie. They want you to look at someone else, say you want what they have, and then try to take it. Balance is bad, and monkeys are good.

In a game of power, greed, wealth and internet status, we should just understand that there are allways those that have and those that have not.

Moongoo is a ****. Good for you if you have it, dont think about it if you dont. Because frankly there arent that many well organised groups of players that can compete with any of the current owners within the latests gamemechanics.

So just shrug it off, deal with it one way or the other. It is what it is until things get changed and that isnt going to happen for a long time.

Besides, wanting those moons is all about greed aswell so what's the difference ?

Lol you're funny.. The funny thing is you are what they call a pet. You are lower than scum to your overlords.. Here's some crappy space to be a meat shield oh but you want a tech moon? Yeah right get lost.. Try to take one? Byebye

Make 12 new HAC's, 8 new Command Ships, 4 new Marauders, T2 carriers, T2 dreads

Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?

That's just like they lies they tell us in real life. Old money always wins. You can't go up against the hundreds of titans the alliances will throw at you.

Yep, just the elite players of Band of Brothers.

You do realise that a single tech moon makes around 10 billion isk a month right? Requires almost daily maintenance by a hauler, someone to fly it safely to where it can be used/sold. The space must be defended, patrolled, sov payed for, man hours of gametime fuelling and boring as hell silo maintenance right? You know all this because you know all aboue Eve yeah? Not to mention the warfare it took to gain that moon and hold it.

You also know that the income from however many tech moons is then used to pay for sov, pay for replacements in huge fights, pay for new upgrades, stations and teh general day to day running of a large alliance which is phenominally expensive. You know all this am I right?

This isk is used to support literally thousands of people.

A single player can easily make 20 to 30 billion isk a month running incursions, if he has the time. In hisec. Virtually risk free. No overheads apart from a ship. No responsibilities to look after anyone but his own wallet.


Yep, seems fair to me to say that nullsec alliances should be punished for making isk. Not as though they have to work for it or risk anything.

LOL@Whining that high sec is where all the money is.

Im not whining in teh slightest, I make plenty, my corp makes a hell of alot of isk right here (no we dont have a tech moon..), I was just pointing out that technetium doesnt actually make that much isk in teh big picture, and it certainly doesnt create isk out of thin air like incursions do.

LOL@Whining that high sec is where all the money is.

How's the ratting and mining in the space where you are? I only went down once or twice chasing escalations.

That's an odd thing for CCP Soundwave to say.

When CCP Soundwave actually hates something it is REMOVED FROM THE GAME in one patch with no attempt to balance out the negative effects it will have on viability of whole regions of space.

You know, the Drone Mineral Nerf.

So it's really strange that he hates it but seems oddly powerless to actually get rid of it. Given his willingness to send the economy into chaos because "mining needs to be important because it does".

And Drone Mineral Nerf was worse than a mistake.

It was removal of content.

Only lost after their devhax were taken away. The current alliances still have have their version of T2 BPOs, tech moons. Also, your average big alliance now has more capitals than even existed back then.

also Google drone clusterfuck

what is it 190 rifters every secone's worth of money generated by Goonie tech moons? a Titan every day and a half?