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evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:20:00 -
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This is a bit of a joke really. You have people whining about Incursions but we have this massive problem called tech moons, where alliances basically get billions of isk per month for holding a POS on a month.
You have people like goons who have 100+ moons, PL have loads, Russian Alliance have loads. I mean Goons muyst be making trillions just from Venal alone! Its ridiculous.
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!
Why yis it alliances as mentioned be allowed to bring 200,400,1000+ to fights with out ANY consequence? Becuase basically the insurance + the amount of stupidly high amount of free isk they make from their 100s of moons basically makes this completely risk free pvp.
When are you going remove those stupoid amounts of tech in Venal? When are you going to give everyone a chance to own these? I mean each alliance knows EVERY location of EVERY expensive moon. Drop 100 supers on to take it, and then drop 100 supers again should anyone even attempt to sniff the moon dust.
8 years in with eve and this is a major major issue now, wasnt so bad before but its wrong totally wrong, ppl whine about highsec bears this is 0.0 bears but 100x worse. Moons should be randomised or the output should be severely reduced and im mean severely like 75%.
Will CCP ever do anything? who knows sick of hearing 'talks' and playing a game that is now become saturated. I dont want a play a game that is controlled by just a few alliances. I am playing someone elses sandbox and mine is being controlled by someone elses. This game isnt really sandbox any more becuase they things you want to do are actually controlled by others. |
Jastra
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
73
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:21:00 -
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dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ? |
Ai Shun
686
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:24:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!
Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!
Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?
EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
JinSanJong
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:26:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer! Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else! Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?
Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers.... |
JinSanJong
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:27:00 -
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Jastra wrote:dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ?
I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it.... |
evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:33:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Ai Shun wrote:evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer! Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else! Or were you after a reward without having to work for it? Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....
This ^^
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Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
61
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:35:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Ai Shun wrote:evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer! Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else! Or were you after a reward without having to work for it? Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....
You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it.
But then on the other hand tech is definitely imbalanced and needs seeing to.
JinSanJong wrote:Jastra wrote:dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ? I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....
I think he's referring to a dev stating that moons are isk "printing machines". Don't quote me on that though. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
144
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:36:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Jastra wrote:dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ? I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....
EVE keynote, CCP Soundwave talks about ring mining as a possible new way for moon goo to be distributed - though this is 2013 at the earliest.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |
TriadSte
3rd Division
64
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:38:00 -
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The issue is that some alliances are so large and have the sheer amount of super and titans available that to fight would be unwise.
This does need addressing, Its a little like Microsofts Grand Duke Bill Gates. He has alot of monopoly in his field and the powers that be keep fining him and telling him that he cannot buy everything that poses a threat to his company.
I believe that tech moons should indeed be thought out alot better then it currently is. That's pretty much all you do in null...protect what's yours and roam when your bored. Do a few plexs maybe...
It needs shaking up, Null is stale like bread....it needs refreshing, toast that bread up rub in some garlic throw a few sliced tomatoes on there with a few slices of mozzarella under the grill 2 minutes done.
Empire - boring
Low Sec full of complete tw*ts who think they're tough but don't come to null because they like to camp care bears on gates.
Null - boring
WH - interesting but again needs some more flavour throwing on there.
I think CCP need to go back to the drawing board and get some new content to play with for there customer base.
Back on topic - apologies
Tech moon Major Major nerf tyvm
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Jastra
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
73
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:39:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Jastra wrote:dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ? I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=986169
just scroll down a few pages and read.....
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TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
134
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:40:00 -
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You make it sound like one person is getting all the goo from the moons they have.
Also,
You're more than welcome to go out and drop a pos on a moon and mine it.
You'll need to work out if there's profit in it first though.
This is also doable solo although it's considerably easier if you have friends. |
Ai Shun
687
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:44:00 -
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Aruken Marr wrote:You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it.
Indeed. I can't claim a whole system in null just because I want it. I'll need to get some friends, try and take it off an existing group. Or perhaps organise a deal with somebody. Or work within the sandbox to try and achieve it.
What I should not do is come to the forums and bleat because somebody else was willing to put in the organisation and effort to get something and I can't have it 
EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
Ai Shun
687
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:46:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Ai Shun wrote:evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer! Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else! Or were you after a reward without having to work for it? Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....
What, so it is impossible to claim a system anymore? When did CCP remove that feature?
Oh.
Right.
You're in the lazy "gimme" brigade. Sod off and go play WoW. It might be more suited to you. There they give you candy for logging in and Epics for managing to turn your character around.
EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
1937
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:49:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Aruken Marr wrote:You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it. Indeed. I can't claim a whole system in null just because I want it. I'll need to get some friends, try and take it off an existing group. Or perhaps organise a deal with somebody. Or work within the sandbox to try and achieve it. What I should not do is come to the forums and bleat because somebody else was willing to put in the organisation and effort to get something and I can't have it
So are you essentially saying you believe the current moon mineral situation is "fine" in your eyes?
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:55:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:You make it sound like one person is getting all the goo from the moons they have.
Also,
You're more than welcome to go out and drop a pos on a moon and mine it.
You'll need to work out if there's profit in it first though.
This is also doable solo although it's considerably easier if you have friends.
Lol funniest post i have read in 8 years
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evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:01:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:JinSanJong wrote:Ai Shun wrote:evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer! Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else! Or were you after a reward without having to work for it? Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers.... What, so it is impossible to claim a system anymore? When did CCP remove that feature? Oh. Right. You're in the lazy "gimme" brigade. Sod off and go play WoW. It might be more suited to you. There they give you candy for logging in and Epics for managing to turn your character around.
It is not a point of working for it at all. So calm down and take some valium sonny. The plain FACT is that these alliances have built up a massive resource over yes a few years, but eve a few years ago was a completely different beast! and whole lot less players, capitals etc etc. Eve is now saturated. It is IMPOSSIBLE and thats a FACT for anyone to build up an alliance with out being a pet, and then geting no moons anyway for being a pet. People simply dont have 100s of caps, supers, titans thats now needed to take a moon in their back pocket jeez! Dont you understand that simple matter? All the large alliances are people who have played the game for along time (well the leaders mainly) but people like NCDOT have all the old tri players from years ago etc. They have just been recycled into another alliance. Its difficult recruiting nevermind trying to build up an alliance to takeon the big boys.
I mean look at Evoke, NCDOT, Raiden all very very established alliances wiht supers, titans etc all struggles to keep the tech moons in Venal, and its not come to a stage where there is a pact in place! So please GTFO coming out with get an army and go take a moon BS! |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
530
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:10:00 -
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GD Troll Top 5 - April 2012
1. scooter Kondur (Hall of Fame member #192)
2. Indawmarmar Fazmararardurrwhine
3. evereplicant
4. DarthNefarius
5. masternerdguy
Congratulations! You have reached a spot among legendarily bad posters.
You can improve your chances to claim #1 fame by adding even more CAPITALIZATION and stupid. Your strength is unreserved 0.0 hatred, combine that with general PVP hatred and some Mittani bashing, and you might be well on your way to the top spot!
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evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:15:00 -
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Roime wrote:GD Troll Top 5 - April 2012
1. scooter Kondur (Hall of Fame member #192)
2. Indawmarmar Fazmararardurrwhine
3. evereplicant
4. DarthNefarius
5. masternerdguy
Congratulations! You have reached a spot among legendarily bad posters.
You can improve your chances to claim #1 fame by adding even more CAPITALIZATION and stupid. Your strength is unreserved 0.0 hatred, combine that with general PVP hatred and some Mittani bashing, and you might be well on your way to the top spot!
By that postt you should of been way above me.. i demand a recount.. I love pvp just dont like lamers, losers and bears... i think that fits in nicely with 0.0, pvp and mittani? amirite?
Dont worry about what im doing, i mean if you are counting trolls, you need to get out more and worry about where yur life is heading.. |
Xpaulusx
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
40
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:20:00 -
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The problem really isn't the moons themselves, its the distribution of them. Concentrateing into pretty much one area is game balance IMO. Reditribute Tec Moons evenly threw out eve, problem solved. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
Exhale.
17
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:24:00 -
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Moon goo mechanics definitely need rebalancing. The most obvious is distributing it more randomly/evenly across null.
Also open up moon mining in wormholes. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
347
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:37:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Ai Shun wrote:evereplicant wrote:And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer! Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else! Or were you after a reward without having to work for it? Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....
And you're as dumb as the OP.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
531
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:46:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:Roime wrote:GD Troll Top 5 - April 2012
1. scooter Kondur (-) (Hall of Fame member #192)
2. Indawmarmar Fazmararardurrwhine (-)
3. Issler Dainze - new entry!
4. evereplicant (3.)
5. DarthNefarius (4.)
Congratulations! You have reached a spot among legendarily bad posters.
You can improve your chances to claim #1 fame by adding even more CAPITALIZATION and stupid. Your strength is unreserved 0.0 hatred, combine that with general PVP hatred and some Mittani bashing, and you might be well on your way to the top spot!
By that postt you should of been way above me.. i demand a recount.. I love pvp just dont like lamers, losers and bears... i think that fits in nicely with 0.0, pvp and mittani? amirite? Dont worry about what im doing, i mean if you are counting trolls, you need to get out more and worry about where yur life is heading..
UPDATE!
Issler Dainze took over your spot by a STORMING attack on GD, resulting in immediate locks. Unfortunately your post includes too much sensible content to hold position - better luck next month.
I thank you for the honourable mention, it's nice to get some recognition. Unfortunately I still feel I have a long way to go :/ |
evereplicant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
92
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:16:00 -
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Roime wrote:evereplicant wrote:Roime wrote:GD Troll Top 5 - April 2012
1. scooter Kondur (-) (Hall of Fame member #192)
2. Indawmarmar Fazmararardurrwhine (-)
3. Issler Dainze - new entry!
4. evereplicant (3.)
5. DarthNefarius (4.)
Congratulations! You have reached a spot among legendarily bad posters.
You can improve your chances to claim #1 fame by adding even more CAPITALIZATION and stupid. Your strength is unreserved 0.0 hatred, combine that with general PVP hatred and some Mittani bashing, and you might be well on your way to the top spot!
By that postt you should of been way above me.. i demand a recount.. I love pvp just dont like lamers, losers and bears... i think that fits in nicely with 0.0, pvp and mittani? amirite? Dont worry about what im doing, i mean if you are counting trolls, you need to get out more and worry about where yur life is heading.. UPDATE! Issler Dainze took over your spot by a STORMING attack on GD, resulting in immediate locks. Unfortunately your post includes too much sensible content to hold position - better luck next month. I thank you for the honourable mention, it's nice to get some recognition. Unfortunately I still feel I have a long way to go :/
dont mention if always happy to help out a fellow eve brosef
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Skydell
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
222
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:21:00 -
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If they follow EVE tradition?
After the damage is done.
See Inside POS doomsdays, See Nano nerf, see Sov mechanics, See just about every exploit ever in the game. |
Kievan Arakyd
MarSec Industries
STR8NGE BREW
22
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:36:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:
We shouldnt just talk about techs months even prom and dyspro moons
obvious troll is obvious. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:49:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Aruken Marr wrote:You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it. Indeed. I can't claim a whole system in null just because I want it. I'll need to get some friends, try and take it off an existing group. Or perhaps organise a deal with somebody. Or work within the sandbox to try and achieve it. What I should not do is come to the forums and bleat because somebody else was willing to put in the organisation and effort to get something and I can't have it
ah neat so ppl can solo incursions now?
Oh wait that CANT?!
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
237
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:01:00 -
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Tech imbalance is an acknowledged problem that they will attempt to fix. |
RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:05:00 -
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hey genius, moon goo don't create isk. |
March rabbit
Trojan Trolls
Red Alliance
155
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:14:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!
as an average joe in RL i WANT TO HAVE Canarian Islands! I WANT TO HAVE IT!
What? I can't??? 
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
617
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:15:00 -
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Didn't CCP say something about being able to mine moo goo in planetary rings? Aren't there going to be a zillion hulks on that when it's introduced? Somebody help me out here... wasn't it going into Inferno?
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