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Skeltem
Amarr Trans-Solar Works FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:12:00 -
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New Dev Blog.
This is really really good news and I can only say: At long last!
Thank you. ----------------------------------------- [21:01:41] Shigsy > U MAKED EXPLISION [21:01:43] Shigsy > FROM SHIP |

LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:15:00 -
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We aim to pleaseÖ
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:17:00 -
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Comments here |

Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:32:00 -
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nice - Rage is Recruiting
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:36:00 -
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At last!
Also: In before someone explains how this will destroy EvE.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:39:00 -
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Can I be the odd one out and go "I didn't want that, while it's certainly useful it advocates and rewards inactivity".
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Maulith
Brutal Seizure
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:39:00 -
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This will take all the fun outta eve, theres nothing like speeding home in rush hour traffic knowing your skill is about to finish, overtaking into oncoming traffic and weaving in and out of the cars! What a rush! 
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista

We aim to pleaseÖ
Originally by: Dev Blog The CSM was happy to hear we were developing a skill queue, but their songs of praise were rather short. I expect haikus.
So how exactly did the CSM have anything to do with getting a totally rad and neaded feature implimented that already was a development goal and had scads of threads discussing how to go about implimenting it ages before the CSM was a gleam in the ccp pr guy/gals eye? 
Originally by: Dev Blog The skill training system we came up with allows you to queue skills that will start training in the next 24 hours. You can enter in up to 50 skills in a queue, as long as they all start training within 24 hours. This leaves room to start a skill that will take 6 hours, followed with one that takes 12 to complete. With only 18 hours of training prepared, the queue still has room to start another skill.
CCP-><--Me
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Pattern Clarc
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: LaVista Vista

We aim to pleaseÖ
Originally by: Dev Blog The CSM was happy to hear we were developing a skill queue, but their songs of praise were rather short. I expect haikus.
So how exactly did the CSM have anything to do with getting a totally rad and neaded feature implimented that already was a development goal and had scads of threads discussing how to go about implimenting it ages before the CSM was a gleam in the ccp pr guy/gals eye? 
Originally by: Dev Blog The skill training system we came up with allows you to queue skills that will start training in the next 24 hours. You can enter in up to 50 skills in a queue, as long as they all start training within 24 hours. This leaves room to start a skill that will take 6 hours, followed with one that takes 12 to complete. With only 18 hours of training prepared, the queue still has room to start another skill.
CCP-><--Me
By bumping it up in the priority que.
It was originally scheduled for a 2011 release date ____
My Blog Is Awesome
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 04/02/2009 12:53:41
Originally by: Pattern Clarc It was originally scheduled for a 2011 release date
Yes, so they say.. But it still wasn't the CSM it was the playerbase. The CSM gets you nothing the players couldn't get for themselves. All your guys function is to be a handy target and middleman for player ideas not the architect. But hey thats politics and not for this thread. 
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 04/02/2009 12:53:41
Originally by: Pattern Clarc It was originally scheduled for a 2011 release date
Yes, so they say.. But it still wasn't the CSM it was the playerbase. The CSM gets you nothing the players couldn't get for themselves. All your guys function is to be a handy target and middleman for player ideas not the architect. But hey thats politics and not for this thread. 
Actually, CCP had quite a different opinion it seemed.
If it wasn't because of the CSM, the skill queue would probably not be in for another few years.  |

Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis At last!
Also: In before someone explains how this will destroy EvE.
IT WILL DESTROY =V=.
I love how people are still whining about the queue though in the thread. Haha. It isnt enufffff. |

Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 04/02/2009 12:53:41
Originally by: Pattern Clarc It was originally scheduled for a 2011 release date
Yes, so they say.. But it still wasn't the CSM it was the playerbase. The CSM gets you nothing the players couldn't get for themselves. All your guys function is to be a handy target and middleman for player ideas not the architect. But hey thats politics and not for this thread. 
Actually, CCP had quite a different opinion it seemed.
If it wasn't because of the CSM, the skill queue would probably not be in for another few years. 
Thats because they want a centralized area to have all player ideas and that is the CSM function. You personaly do not and never will have an effect as a CSM member to actually change the course of eve development. It was bumped up because ccp wanted to bump it up and the players agreed. If the players had not agreed then even if all the CSM members had unanimously been in favor a a skill queue it would never ever happen. Bet then agan that is not yoru function. You are a convinient middleman that ccp pr can use to structure the wanted features process and toss out to review and news sites as look at us we have player democrocy. Do I disagree with the CSM concept? Not really as it was a needed and quite frankly devious way to get the players to become moar reasonable and coherent in thier wanted feature threads. What ticks me off is that the CEM delegate think [i]They[i] did it and thats just not the case.  |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Malcanis At last!
Also: In before someone explains how this will destroy EvE.
IT WILL DESTROY =V=.
I love how people are still whining about the queue though in the thread. Haha. It isnt enufffff.
Anyone with a realistic view of the situation, saw it was going to be something like this. Anything else was wishful thinking. The new system still requires you to log in from time to time, but removes almost all of the negative sides of the current system. I'm more then happy with it. |

Datsun Achura
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:18:00 -
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CCP do listen 
Long overdue but very welcome |

Amandrace
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:24:00 -
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all I can say is, FINALLY! |

Serpensis
Gallente Value Added Traders
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:32:00 -
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Jeez, this will be nice :)
All those pesky rank 1 skills to lvl1 will be a dream to get going not having to switch every 6 mins. |

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:33:00 -
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Niec. I really lube CSM adn CCP. Tehy are 4TW.   |

Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Serpensis Jeez, this will be nice :)
All those pesky rank 1 skills to lvl1 will be a dream to get going not having to switch every 6 mins.
Yup, alt creation is going to be a snap now. Queue up all those pesky beggining skills and go do something useful with the next 24 hours. <3<3<3<3<3 |

DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: DrAtomic on 04/02/2009 13:46:17
Originally by: LaVista Vista
If it wasn't because of the CSM, the skill queue would probably not be in for another few years. 
Probs for getting it through but you allowed CCP to serve you a stale cookie.
Edit: see my detailed response here. - - -
Originally by: CCP Prism X I can invent ways to get free candy for you where the implementation is so bad that you'd never want to see candy again in your whole life.
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Sanguis Sanies
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:48:00 -
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excellent I'll finally be able to get all of those short (less than 1 day) skills out of the way by having them going whilst i'm asleep, then switching back to my long skills!  |

Dark Soldat
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:49:00 -
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col. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Thats because they want a centralized area to have all player ideas and that is the CSM function. You personaly do not and never will have an effect as a CSM member to actually change the course of eve development. It was bumped up because ccp wanted to bump it up and the players agreed. If the players and ccp had not agreed then even if all the CSM members had unanimously been in favor of a skill queue it would never ever happen. ...
The CSM could have just said 'Naah, we're not going to bring that up since only a few vocal minorities want it', left it at that and we would still be waiting in 2011. |

Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:04:00 -
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YES
Finally I am able to train those "not long enough for work day" skills while I work.
Like 14 hours skills... damn. They ended in the middle of a work day. So I had to train them in part each evening which was tedious administration and clicking during movies.
Thanx guys :) |

Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Zeba Thats because they want a centralized area to have all player ideas and that is the CSM function. You personaly do not and never will have an effect as a CSM member to actually change the course of eve development. It was bumped up because ccp wanted to bump it up and the players agreed. If the players and ccp had not agreed then even if all the CSM members had unanimously been in favor of a skill queue it would never ever happen. ...
The CSM could have just said 'Naah, we're not going to bring that up since only a few vocal minorities want it', left it at that and we would still be waiting in 2011.
Doubtful. All the ducks are lined up for a viable skill queue release now unlike an earlier time. No moar ghost training, tons moar employees to scrum up into teams, imminent release of the box game in all sorts of places that will bring loads of casual gamers who only shop in stores and don't frequent online review sites or magazines, totaly revamped new player experience with bonus extras for the new casual subscribers who are not going to be hardcore 23/7 eve players but do have lots of money to spend on subs for the hour or two a day they do get to play so bring them in and fund all the good stuff for the hardcore empire/low sec/0.0 and upcoming w-space players. Its all in the timing and if stroking CSM egos makes a better news bit then go figure that egos get stroked.  |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:29:00 -
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I can only say "about damned time"  And 24h before last skill start is a decent compromise between no queue and too much of a queue.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Malcanis At last!
Also: In before someone explains how this will destroy EvE.
IT WILL DESTROY =V=.
I love how people are still whining about the queue though in the thread. Haha. It isnt enufffff.
The 24 hour thing will be an especially huge convenience for new players who have lots of short skills. |

Dred 'Morte
New European Regiment R.U.R.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dred ''Morte on 04/02/2009 14:43:17 EXCELLENT
Now can I get a refund for the months of training that I have wasted because of the lack of this? 
my opinion towards the CSM is different now : ) you guys ARE needed! |

David Brent
The Office
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:46:00 -
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YES! Nice one CCP.... long overdue 
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Zaldoza
Caldari EVEfan.dk
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:48:00 -
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Excellent news guys i really like the solution you have choosen 
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