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Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 08/02/2009 13:04:13
Originally by: StevieSG Verone looks like data from star trek. that is all.
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Vini Shius
Eve University
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Posted - 2009.02.08 13:13:00 -
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You guys work with off the chart productivity levels, certainly a result of agile and sweet methodology. Must be nice working for CCP.
I'll be eagerly waiting for Apocrypha this March.
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Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.08 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sekket Doesn't a DVD only hold about 2 gigs total anyway?
4.7GB for single layer 9GB for dual layer (approximate)
And really, for me 1.5GB is a non-issue. Heck, buying GTA IV (about 8GB if I recall right) off Steam was a non-issue. I'm just thinking about new user experience and the potential reaction in reviews (another reason for a new retail box - to get the press to (re)review the game, promoting it to new players).
But in any case, the logic of doing it like this is now more clear. I personally think it's still a bit silly that you can end up patching 1.5GB on day 1...
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Sensor Boosting
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Posted - 2009.02.08 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: MOS DEF People don`t use 56kbit modems anymore ya know.
thats where you are wrong, not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to receive broadband access
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CCP Explorer

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Posted - 2009.02.08 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jarnis McPieksu But in any case, the logic of doing it like this is now more clear. I personally think it's still a bit silly that you can end up patching 1.5GB on day 1...
Of course it would have been more preferable to have a smaller patch; in an ideal world we would have printed the boxes and then at the last moment dropped a client into the ISO image, made the DVDs, boxed them and shipped to retailers in a matter of 1-3 days. But such is not the retail world yet. |
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Dr Resheph
Amarr YOU ARE NOW READING THIS LOUDLY
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Posted - 2009.02.08 14:24:00 -
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Can you explain what the difference is between the Hi and Lo setting on SM2 and SM3? |

Helison
Gallente Times of Ancar
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:19:00 -
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Is there any way, that you could upload a full Apocrypha client one week before deployment including all graphics? Sure, there might be some changes to the code afterwards, but this should be fixed with a small patch on patchday. This way it will be possible to get the patch/new client also to PCs with a bad connection or with a download-limit (yeah such connections are still existing!).
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Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:00:00 -
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Why are people complaining about the size of the patch?
Download the patch to your HDD, and install to each install.
Someone is complaining about ONE download.
I have to download the patch, and install to 15(YES FIFTEEN) Client installs.
Why?
Because I have 5 accounts, and each account has it's own install. I dont' HAVE to do this, but I've found things run smother when I do. And since I play on 3 different PC's, 5 complete installs in each(6 on my main as it also has test.
In todays internet society, downloading over a gig is nothing.
If it takes a day for you due to an exstreamly slow connection, go to a friends. Your friend downloads it once, faster then you, burn to DVD, and take it home.
I mean seriously. it's less then 2 gigs. Big deal. I download more then that a DAY just streaming music. And that's only at 25kb/s.
If you are on a decen internet connection, you shoudl be able to get at LEAST 100kb/s download speeds. That'd cut the time by 75%.
As for the complaints about Retail version, big deal.
Every game I download, no matter WHO makes it, by the time I buy a boxed retail version, it needs to be patched. And that's for a Standalone GAME. Not an MMO that pumps out content updates at least twice a year.
Sheesh. Quit giveing CCP grief, and let them get back to playing EVE and BUILDING EVE. |

Vir Hellnamin
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:45:00 -
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CCP Explorer,
would it make sense to try to have some sort of "download before patch day, but not being to patch" type of distribution method for these large expansions?
Or, has the delivery system moved totally of the EVE servers? -- V.H.
"Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi [GRD]
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Aleyra Mel
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer Everybody. There will be one client in Apocrypha with a single set of art assets. The client can then render those art assets using either SM2 or SM3. To minimize the download on patch day then I recommend to update to Premium to have on the hard drive all art assets that are available pre-Apocrypha to reduce the patch size on deployment day.
Having a SH2 card, will their be a problem if i download the current premium client and install it? Will i be able to play EVE before apocrypha patch? Or the client wont start cause my card doesn't support SH3? |
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CCP Explorer

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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Aleyra Mel Having a SH2 card, will their be a problem if i download the current premium client and install it? Will i be able to play EVE before apocrypha patch? Or the client wont start cause my card doesn't support SH3?
The current Premium client (Quantum Rise 1.0.5) will automatically switch to Classic mode if your graphics card does not support SM3. You can also explicitly set it by adding
trinityVersion=dx8
to the prefs.ini file (located in C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility\settings\).
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Dr Resheph
Amarr YOU ARE NOW READING THIS LOUDLY
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Resheph Can you explain what the difference is between the Hi and Lo setting on SM2 and SM3?
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ChalSto
LOCKDOWN. HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:16:00 -
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This may seem a stupid question, but:
Will I still be able to play EvE on an ACER Aspire 1690 Series?  Originally by: Agmar ----------------------------------------------- "The North is so ghey that even the NPCs fly ravens." |

B'atou
Gallente RATS Corp Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.09 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: ChalSto Will I still be able to play EvE on an ACER Aspire 1690 Series? 
If it's the Notebook with the ATI X600 Graphics Accelerator, imho yes, you should, because it supports Shader Model 2.0 |

Zex Maxwell
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.09 17:54:00 -
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Now, is Lite client on the sisi server now? I have a PC that can test it.
I am the customer that had the odd red color from the old premium/classic clients. and i would like to nip this problem butt now before it goes live. |

ChalSto
LOCKDOWN. HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.09 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: B'atou
Originally by: ChalSto Will I still be able to play EvE on an ACER Aspire 1690 Series? 
If it's the Notebook with the ATI X600 Graphics Accelerator, imho yes, you should, because it supports Shader Model 2.0
its the X700 thingy Originally by: Agmar ----------------------------------------------- "The North is so ghey that even the NPCs fly ravens." |

Tammaria Snegallja
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Posted - 2009.02.10 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tammaria Snegallja on 10/02/2009 19:32:05
Originally by: Cors If you are on a decen internet connection, you shoudl be able to get at LEAST 100kb/s download speeds.
What a coincidence, just today I find some numbers:
In Germany, 92% of the households have the possibility to get a broadband connection with at least 1 Mbit/s. For 2 Mbit/s it's 70%. (Source: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Bundesregierung-definiert-Breitband-neu--/meldung/132267 )
Now I'd say for those 6.5 million people a 1.2 GB download is nothing to shrug off.
(Usual speeds below 1 Mbit/s in Germany are: 768 kbit/s (rare, 3.5 hours to download the patch at full speed), 384 kbit/s (common, 7 hours), 64 kbit/s (rare, 42 hours) and 56 kbit/s (common, more than 50 hours).)
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Erovicious
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Posted - 2009.02.17 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer The box includes a lot more than the DVD, such as ETC codes.
Is the value of these ETC code(s) listed somewhere? Ie, with buying the box I get X(30,60,90, etc) days of play time? As a current subscriber, but not a psycho eve player with a billion accounts that has to patch 15 times (like above poster - Good lord man), i'm struggling to find a fiscal reason to buy the box.
With limited RL budget to fit game playing into, fiscal is all that matters to me. If I can take my cash where I'd normally be buying game codes and maybe throw a few more bucks at it and get a neat box and DVD - and get an equal (or close) amount of play time in ETC's - I'm in. If it isn't close, no sale.
*Ero*
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maranne marachian
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Posted - 2009.02.17 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: maranne marachian on 17/02/2009 06:13:32 Edited by: maranne marachian on 17/02/2009 06:12:57 its 60 days playtime in alot of places the box is already cheaper than an ETC too...
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Kerc Kasha
Caldari Valiant Research Associates Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:00:00 -
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Quick question Explorer, will CCP provide a patch to update from the test versions to the final Release Candidate next month? Because frankly my download limit(Stupid Australian ISP's) would prefer me not slamming another 2gbs down :(
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Thenoran
Caldari Hegemony Enterprises HEGEM0NY
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Posted - 2009.02.17 18:40:00 -
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There is one problem, my C: drive, which I use purely for Windows, only has about 700-800mb of free space on it. I've kept it that way, with everything else at D: drive so that if Windows dies (again), I won't lose a lot of programs and stuff. However, the EVE Client downloads all patches to AppData/EVE which is still on C: and thus 1.2gb won't fit there.
Is there any way to move the patch location? Or should I just download it manually from the 'EVE Patches' link on the website and cancel the auto update? ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sensor Boosting
Originally by: MOS DEF People don`t use 56kbit modems anymore ya know.
thats where you are wrong, not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to receive broadband access
Then you should move somewhere that has it, or in the event that you cant afford broadband, you should find ways to make more money and stop playing eve.
Life isn't fair, deal with it, or die already.
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Ydyp Ieva
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.02.17 22:48:00 -
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At least with how it is done now, CCP can still push back the release of the new expansion without bringing the box launch into danger.
But I agree with those that say buying a box then comming home and downloading a 1,5 GB patch isn't the best impression. If it was a SP game I would bring the box back to store and say screw the game (even if it is a game all my friends recommended). On a MMO it is a bit different, but still 1,5 GB download can be hard pressed on new people. ----------------------------------
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Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2009.02.28 20:34:00 -
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Well, the biggest problem is not how much data you have to download, but how quick that data gets to your machine. Using a downloader with BitTorrent is a wise move. I've downloaded plenty of ISOs through BitTorrent (mostly Linux ISOs) on the day those were launched and the truth is, the more pleople downloading, the better.  I'm really waiting for M10.  ----
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dmian Well, the biggest problem is not how much data you have to download, but how quick that data gets to your machine. Using a downloader with BitTorrent is a wise move. I've downloaded plenty of ISOs through BitTorrent (mostly Linux ISOs) on the day those were launched and the truth is, the more pleople downloading, the better.  I'm really waiting for M10. 
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.02.28 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 28/02/2009 21:06:30
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Dmian Well, the biggest problem is not how much data you have to download, but how quick that data gets to your machine. Using a downloader with BitTorrent is a wise move. I've downloaded plenty of ISOs through BitTorrent (mostly Linux ISOs) on the day those were launched and the truth is, the more pleople downloading, the better.  I'm really waiting for M10. 
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11 days is a necro?, yeah .
Tbh, it's nothing that is called necroing a topic today, simply because within 3 months it's not really a necro.
Topics with no activity in 3 months gets locked automaticly after 3 months anyways.
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