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Caiman Graystock Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:08:00 - [1] Edited by: Caiman Graystock on 08/02/2009 21:11:25 This has just been confirmed on EVE TV... twice per year you can re-spec your attributes, coming next expansion.
Terry Pratchett2	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:09:00 - [2] THE SKY IS FALLING! (I mean it!) That's both awesome and very scary...
Ambien Torca	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:09:00 - [3] Down with charisma and Achura oppression!
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:09:00 - [4] He said 'twice a year' and not 'every 6 months'.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:10:00 - [5] damm beaten to it i tip my hat This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
Viqer Fell Minmatar When Hippo Attacks Go Wrong	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:10:00 - [6] Edited by: Viqer Fell on 08/02/2009 21:11:07 Can't think of a **tier more bull ed up introduction to eve. Absolute e. Apocrypha is awesome but this sucks more ass than a large ass sucking machine. * *** ** * ** **** ** flaps
Atreus Tac Quatidion Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Ambien Torca Down with charisma and Achura oppression! finally i can train those god damn leadership skills __________________________________________________________ -Cheers- Atreus Tac
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Viqer Fell Can't think of a **tier more bull ed up introduction to eve. Absolute **e. Apocrypha is awesome but this sucks more ass than a large ass sucking machine. I'm with Viqer on this.
Caiman Graystock Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Gnulpie He said 'twice a year' and not 'every 6 months'. Semantics
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:13:00 - [10] Thank god, I started EVE with 3 base perception and am about 20m sp short of my peers :p EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Viqer Fell Minmatar When Hippo Attacks Go Wrong	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:17:00 - [11] Edited by: Viqer Fell on 08/02/2009 21:17:50 I added more drunk swear words to my original post. Sorry but I have spent 5 years with my charisma as my big handicap (yes i started with very high charisma) and to change my character attributes would be awesome but ffs I dont want to because I belive that it falls into the metagaming **er category. Sadly when I bought the game as my first MMO i thought charisma would be useful lolz I recognise that Viqer has ** attributes but i have spent 5 years with him. Screw the meta gaming freaks who think that re-speccing is good. It goes against the very spirit of the game.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:19:00 - [12] Edited by: Akita T on 08/02/2009 21:20:19 Hmm... now, it depends... HOW exactly can you respec them ? Because I'm aching for a 39/0/0/0/0 character I mean, seriously, I do have half a year of skills I'd like trained in just about any primary attribute, so, hells yeah. Hooray to min-maxing from now on ! Fake P.S. : Of course, I'll bet it's just "redistribute your 5 custom skillpoints", HAH ! Real P.S. : As much as I'll love the benefits I'll be reaping, I have to admit the idea is "FAILSAUCE". _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Viqer Fell Minmatar When Hippo Attacks Go Wrong	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:21:00 - [13] So now it doesnt matter *****s what your attrihbutes are. You can just change them whenever you want as long as its not more than twice a year. ffs i hate this ty idea. ***s ** and more swear words
Stretchmeat Crotchquake GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:22:00 - [14] Is everyone who didn't pick Achura still stuck with their base attributes?
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:22:00 - [15] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/02/2009 21:23:27 Implants are capped at +5. Good. Ghost training was removed. Fine. There is no useful skill queue system in sight. Not so fine. CCP clearly has no intention to streamline peoples' ability to character farm, or so I'd have thought until this skill re-speccing proposal. I'd support a limited ability to fix a character's attributes, but the twice a year figure seems excessive. Those of us who only have one functional character may not have known what they were doing when they made it, but didn't realize they didn't know what they were doing until long after simply rerolling the character ceased to be a rational option. Guilty, although the generally even spread of my attributes probably hasn't hurt me much in terms of time lost. It's only been in the last year when I developed a skill plan approaching any appreciable degree of specialization.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:23:00 - [16] Why have attributes at all then? Attributes make no sense if you can respec them to have them at maximum for what you are skilling at the moment. Bad move CCP.
Thjothvitnir Thund Gallente Guardian Heroes Inc. Gunmen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:27:00 - [17] So I didn't mis-hear? I thought for sure my ears were tricking me. This is such a horrible idea. I just had to listen to one of the CEO's in Teamspeak rant on why this is a bad idea for the last 15 minutes, and I have to say I agree. EVE is a universe where your actions actually have consequences, and being able to just go in and fix yourself as a matter of course, even if it's limited to twice a year, is just stupid.
teoliit	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Viqer Fell So now it doesnt matter *****s what your attrihbutes are. You can just change them whenever you want as long as its not more than twice a year. ffs i hate this ty idea. ***s ** and more swear words Why should it matter? It's a stupid system that just gets in the way. Implants are good though. More isk -> faster training Horrible info @ character creation leading to gimped training for the rest of the game is bad design
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:44:00 - [19] I rolled +5 chrisma bonus points into my character not knowing any better, I would like willpower now. ============= Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today
Benedic The Aftermath	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:45:00 - [20] hah, no more achuras catching up.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:45:00 - [21] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/02/2009 21:23:27 Implants are capped at +5. Good. Ghost training was removed. Fine. There is no useful skill queue system in sight. Not so fine. I could have sworn yesterday that about the same time the attribute respec was mentioned, a skill queue was coming in Apocrypha as well. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Deva Blackfire coracao ardente	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:48:00 - [22] weee bye bye charisma (and maybe some memory... duh useless attrib). Welcome more perception (per4 sucks for starters)
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/02/2009 21:23:27 Implants are capped at +5. Good. Ghost training was removed. Fine. There is no useful skill queue system in sight. Not so fine. I could have sworn yesterday that about the same time the attribute respec was mentioned, a skill queue was coming in Apocrypha as well. It only covers 24 hours windows of time. Useful for new players or people branching out who need to train a bunch of skills that take a couple of hours. It's a start but I'm still rooting for the addition of an unlimited queue that stays active as long as the subscription is active.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:52:00 - [24] Edited by: Abrazzar on 08/02/2009 21:52:23 Originally by: Dirk Magnum Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/02/2009 21:23:27 Implants are capped at +5. Good. Ghost training was removed. Fine. There is no useful skill queue system in sight. Not so fine. I could have sworn yesterday that about the same time the attribute respec was mentioned, a skill queue was coming in Apocrypha as well. It only covers 24 hours windows of time. Useful for new players or people branching out who need to train a bunch of skills that take a couple of hours. It's a start but I'm still rooting for the addition of an unlimited queue that stays active as long as the subscription is active. You can queue up 23 hours 59mins in skills and then drop on this three year deathstar operation 5 in the end to get trained after those 24 hours. At least that's how I understood it from the dev interviews. This will allow you to queue in your next skill when your current skill is finishing while you're asleep/at work whatever. -------- Ideas for: Mining
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.08 21:55:00 - [25] Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 08/02/2009 21:59:07 It's all about making the world warm and fuzzy, CCP only cares about two things, and one of them is new subs, if you listened there were lots of new things they wanted to add, all very WOW'esqe new player friendly stuff that sorta kicks the older players in the nuts a bit sometimes cause they never had it as good. I had to reroll personally after 3 months in, that's how crap my attributes were.
Sazkyen	Posted - 2009.02.08 22:00:00 - [26] Finally, I couldn't wait to up my charisma a bit. Always wanted max charisma.
Alexander Universe	Posted - 2009.02.08 22:11:00 - [27] It should be possible to re-spec the attributes only once, and only those 5 attributes you got to change when you created the character. That would make the failing on making your character when new to the game less harmful and it would ruin anything in game. It would be win-win.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.08 22:13:00 - [28] I'd just like to second the post above me. The devs worry me though, if the stuff isn't already coming, for my tastes at least I think there's some really crap content patches coming after we get past the highs of Apocrypha and Ambulation.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.02.08 22:15:00 - [29] Edited by: MotherMoon on 08/02/2009 22:15:22 Originally by: Viqer Fell So now it doesnt matter *****s what your attrihbutes are. You can just change them whenever you want as long as its not more than twice a year. ffs i hate this ty idea. ***s ** and more swear words dude, it's going to be those 5 points you spend. so like you can put 3 more into something and then 2 to something else. it's not like you can change race and background.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.02.08 22:16:00 - [30] Originally by: Alexander Universe It should be possible to re-spec the attributes only once, and only those 5 attributes you got to change when you created the character. That would make the failing on making your character when new to the game less harmful and it would ruin anything in game. It would be win-win. He said "...like at character creation..." which kinda implies that it's only those 5 points you can distribute then. If it's limited to that this feature is actually quite tame.

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