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minerboob
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:27:00 -
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Just purchased a video card and a monitor as my laptop will soon not be able to run eve anymore. That means not going over to my friends house and being able to play. Also many people will not get to see the game so I will not be able to recruit more people into it as easy. Everytime I go somewhere with my laptop people ask me. "Whats that your playing." Most people have no idea about EvE. Anyway.. wish I didn't have to spend half my tax return to keep playing. At least it will look nice now. 
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:28:00 -
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You mean I have to upgrade my computer? But it has all the top software from 1998 in it!
 Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Ash Vincetti
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
You mean I have to upgrade my computer? But it has all the top software from 1998 in it!
Showoff!
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Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Cors on 14/02/2009 00:34:38
A 30$ Graphics card can do you.
And any monitor out there will do you. Even a 10 year old CRT.
Why are you complaining?
Computer games as a hobby are NOT cheap. They are cheaper then going to the bar once a month though.
High speed internet connection 20$/month
Computer hardware per year, 250$(You can get by with less if you are intelligent with your hardware upgrades, or you can buy a whole new computer once ever 4 years.
Eve Account 15-20$/month.
That's 60$/month total for an entry level EVE player long term. That's ONE trip to the bar a month. That's less then most of us pay for our cell phones, or our cable TV. Hell, that's only 2 Pizza Orders.
If you can't afford this, then you need to have a serious look at your finances.
As for recruitment of new players, not an issue after it hits the stores. We'll have WAY more then enough players then.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:35:00 -
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it called eveinabox
This week EvE Life: Wormhole Wars 01/Feb
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:37:00 -
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300$????
A 40$ Card will do. Stop F ucking complaining |
Arkeladin
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob
Just purchased a video card and a monitor as my laptop will soon not be able to run eve anymore. That means not going over to my friends house and being able to play. Also many people will not get to see the game so I will not be able to recruit more people into it as easy. Everytime I go somewhere with my laptop people ask me. "Whats that your playing." Most people have no idea about EvE. Anyway.. wish I didn't have to spend half my tax return to keep playing. At least it will look nice now.
If you spent $300 US for a video card just to play EvE MAN< are you EVER doing it wrong.
For the Premium Lite client, you need a Shader Model 2 card. Think Geforce 7000 series, they can be had for $30-$40 dollars pretty much anywhere.
Did you even bother to check to see if your laptop's video card even supports Shader 2? Many do - any of the Gefoce Go series, or the ATI Radeon To Go series do...
To make a long story short, if you spent $300 just on EvE you failed hard. Really hard. If not - then quityer*****in, it wasn't just on EvE :)
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Malthros Zenobia
Cadian Special Operations Command
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:47:00 -
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I think my next PC upgrade is goingto cost me around $300 total.
This excludes the 90 I spent on a 9800gt recently that I'm going to just use on the next hardware setup. |
Gideon Kross
Caldari
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:55:00 -
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Heh... I pay nearly that for my yearly subs as it is.
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Shogun Archer
Gallente
Brotherhood of Soban
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.02.14 00:59:00 -
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I play on a TRS 80 and it runs great.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.14 01:06:00 -
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fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2009.02.14 01:08:00 -
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... i can totaly run it on my AMIGA
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.02.14 01:12:00 -
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 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Listen to the smiley, or else.
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Iain Cubair
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.14 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cors
Edited by: Cors on 14/02/2009 00:34:38
A 30$ Graphics card can do you.
And any monitor out there will do you. Even a 10 year old CRT.
Why are you complaining?
Computer games as a hobby are NOT cheap. They are cheaper then going to the bar once a month though.
High speed internet connection 20$/month
Computer hardware per year, 250$(You can get by with less if you are intelligent with your hardware upgrades, or you can buy a whole new computer once ever 4 years.
Eve Account 15-20$/month.
That's 60$/month total for an entry level EVE player long term. That's ONE trip to the bar a month. That's less then most of us pay for our cell phones, or our cable TV. Hell, that's only 2 Pizza Orders.
If you can't afford this, then you need to have a serious look at your finances.
Agree. I do find computer games a rather cheap hobby however - especially eve online. No fancy hardware required, no expensive joysticks, throttles, foot pedals etc. Runs perfectly on a 3 year old computer.
If I only say one day a month: I'm gonna play eve-online instead of going out to a bar, go to the movies + drink/hamburgers or take a trip on my motorbike I can easily pay for my monthly account.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.02.14 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob
Just purchased a video card and a monitor as my laptop will soon not be able to run eve anymore. That means not going over to my friends house and being able to play. Also many people will not get to see the game so I will not be able to recruit more people into it as easy. Everytime I go somewhere with my laptop people ask me. "Whats that your playing." Most people have no idea about EvE. Anyway.. wish I didn't have to spend half my tax return to keep playing. At least it will look nice now.
Look lad, you could go to the computerstore and tell them you wanted the most cheapest and oldest graphic card they have in store, and you would get a card working with EVE online premium lite client! 20-40 dollar or pound would be a likely price I think. Here in Norway I could get such a card for 300 kroner!
What card did you get by the way??
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.02.14 03:08:00 -
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you know we joke about this, but i might actually buy my first pc tower in 5 years cause of this premium thing
i'm ok with it, but still working on a reasonable explanation for the missus on why i'll need to spend a few hundred dollars to shoot internet spaceships... |
Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.02.14 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
you know we joke about this, but i might actually buy my first pc tower in 5 years cause of this premium thing
i'm ok with it, but still working on a reasonable explanation for the missus on why i'll need to spend a few hundred dollars to shoot internet spaceships...
Tell her it's cheaper then you going to the strip club a few times. :) It's why my wife doesn't mind my EVE habit. She knows where I am at most times. Unlike he coworkers, who have husbands who head to the bar a few nights a week with buddies..
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.14 03:33:00 -
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Well, times changes. If everyone had the backwards though to not change anything we would still be cavemen. So deal with it :).
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Kumq uat
Gallente
InQuest Ascension
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.14 04:13:00 -
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You fail at Eve
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rValdez5987
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.02.14 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Vincetti
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
You mean I have to upgrade my computer? But it has all the top software from 1998 in it!
Showoff!
that pretty much sums up how i feel. I love you guys.
but really, if you cant run eve, (my 2002 laptop obviously wont) just do what i do when your on a business trip.... stock up on HD eve videos, and when someone asks what your watching, use that to get them interested. |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.02.14 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cors
Edited by: Cors on 14/02/2009 00:34:38
A 30$ Graphics card can do you.
And any monitor out there will do you. Even a 10 year old CRT.
Why are you complaining?
Computer games as a hobby are NOT cheap. They are cheaper then going to the bar once a month though.
High speed internet connection 20$/month
Computer hardware per year, 250$(You can get by with less if you are intelligent with your hardware upgrades, or you can buy a whole new computer once ever 4 years.
Eve Account 15-20$/month.
That's 60$/month total for an entry level EVE player long term. That's ONE trip to the bar a month. That's less then most of us pay for our cell phones, or our cable TV. Hell, that's only 2 Pizza Orders.
If you can't afford this, then you need to have a serious look at your finances.
As for recruitment of new players, not an issue after it hits the stores. We'll have WAY more then enough players then.
I wish high speed internet was only 20 USD where I live, sadly its 60 USD :(, dial up is only 20 USD, yeah I know kinda screwey but such is life where there is no competition here in the sticks :(.
I probably didn't have to upgrade my computer but I have though. At least now I'll get to see the premium graphics once I can get eve downloaded on that computer.
Now if only I could get high speed internet here for a discount, of course what is available here is often hurt by latency issues due to lack of proper infrastructure.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Dreamwalker
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Posted - 2009.02.14 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
it called eveinabox
Is that like **** in a box?
Originally by: Hexxx
Congratulations to him for having two brains cells to rub together and give himself a tingling sensation.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.14 05:31:00 -
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If its any consolation I won't be able to play at work anymore |
Pretzel Spark
Quatidion
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.02.14 05:51:00 -
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Twenty posts and everyone seems to have missed the point.
Originally by: minerboob
Just purchased a video card and a monitor as my laptop will soon not be able to run eve anymore. That means not going over to my friends house and being able to play. Also many people will not get to see the game so I will not be able to recruit more people into it as easy. Everytime I go somewhere with my laptop people ask me. "Whats that your playing." Most people have no idea about EvE. Anyway.. wish I didn't have to spend half my tax return to keep playing. At least it will look nice now.
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laptop
So $300 seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Unforgivin
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.14 06:59:00 -
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yes you cant hold onto that commodore 64 forever, sooner or later you must let it go
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Cierejai
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.14 07:01:00 -
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Where do you build these top of the line brand new computers for $300?
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.02.14 07:07:00 -
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disturbing that:
- A) You attribute EVE of all games to the reason for an upgrade
- B) You don't find the fact you are so behind the curve a clue you really aren't cut out for bleeding edge computer games as hobby
- C) You took the time to post yet another whine about progress
- D) You didn't think to just upgrade your laptop to something newer if that's the way YOU play?
You see, no one else cares about how you see the World. The majority see it that they have a pretty kick ass sweet gaming rig and they ALSO play eve.
My point is, to use a pun, you come across as 'the tail wagging the dog'.
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Shea Klant
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Posted - 2009.02.14 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cierejai
Where do you build these top of the line brand new computers for $300?
It's called www.newegg.com or www.frys.com
'Top of the line' is subjective. A 5 year old desktop and video card is pretty middle of the road for eve. Even three year old hardware is more than enough to run dual clients on a pair of monitors at 1900x1200 (That's what I'm running.). |
Julia Steaz
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Posted - 2009.02.14 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Julia Steaz on 14/02/2009 16:01:17
Edited by: Julia Steaz on 14/02/2009 16:00:48
Edited by: Julia Steaz on 14/02/2009 16:00:34
I just built a new computer for $1200. I paid it off in a week with all the MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY a fast computer has given me.
I had my last desktop for 7 years, and it was below-mid range when I bought it. And now I have a good computer that will last me for the next 8 years. $1200 / 8 = $150 a year. $150 / 12 = $12.50 a month. That's less than 0.50 cents a day for:
Intel Quad Core Q6600
BFG Nvidia 9800GTX OC+
4GB DDR2 RAM @ 1066mhz
I can run 4 premium Eve-Online clients with this setup.
A computer is an investment. You should be happy that Eve inspires you to expand ;)
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Rilwar
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.02.14 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Rilwar on 14/02/2009 16:18:14
Originally by: minerboob
Just purchased a video card and a monitor as my laptop will soon not be able to run eve anymore. That means not going over to my friends house and being able to play. Also many people will not get to see the game so I will not be able to recruit more people into it as easy. Everytime I go somewhere with my laptop people ask me. "Whats that your playing." Most people have no idea about EvE. Anyway.. wish I didn't have to spend half my tax return to keep playing. At least it will look nice now.
 Wahhhh, technology is advancing.
Wahhhh, I don't have the easy road.
Wahhhh, I have to spend money on a hobby that requires spending money.
Wahhhh, Wahhhh.
 Do you call your ISP every month and whine about having to pay the bill?
Do you whine and moan at the mechanic when he gives you a car repair bill, saying you payed for the car and having to pay to keep it running isn't fair?
 Shutup you sniveling little tool.
I bought a new CPU and Video card for my 2nd PC that used to have trouble running the classic client. I spent under $250 for the pair. It now runs premium without a hiccup. I did this upgrade when the SM Upgrade was announced.
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Aurik Ulanti
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.14 16:33:00 -
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I'm not very techy, so I wonder if my laptops nvidia gforce go 7600 (512mb dedicated ram) will cope. The laptop has c2d 2ghz prcessors and 2gig ram. Running vista though. I'm thinking of going back to xp as I think it needs less resources to work than vista. Also, does office 2007 work with xp?
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Khrillian
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.14 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob
Just purchased a video card and a monitor as my laptop will soon not be able to run eve anymore. That means not going over to my friends house and being able to play. Also many people will not get to see the game so I will not be able to recruit more people into it as easy. Everytime I go somewhere with my laptop people ask me. "Whats that your playing." Most people have no idea about EvE. Anyway.. wish I didn't have to spend half my tax return to keep playing. At least it will look nice now.
Say you're running a chinese farmer business and then the laptop will be tax deductible!
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Rilwar
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.02.14 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rilwar on 14/02/2009 16:44:24
Originally by: Aurik Ulanti
I'm not very techy, so I wonder if my laptops nvidia gforce go 7600 (512mb dedicated ram) will cope. The laptop has c2d 2ghz prcessors and 2gig ram. Running vista though. I'm thinking of going back to xp as I think it needs less resources to work than vista. Also, does office 2007 work with xp?
GeForce GO 7600 is SM 3.0 compliant, it will be able to run the client. Running it well may be an issue though, but only tesitng it will answer that for you.
2nd question: http://tinyurl.com/dmh8e2
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Northern Storm
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Posted - 2009.02.14 17:14:00 -
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Welcome to the 21st century
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari
Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.14 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lochmar Fiendhiem on 14/02/2009 17:52:39
OP thinks the world is still flat and we were all created some 5000 years ago by a magical man in the sky who is broke and needs our money, oh and to buy american cars.
EDIT: this was also when kenny planned out all their plans.
Originally by: Halkin
bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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minerboob
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Posted - 2009.02.15 00:53:00 -
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The 300 I had to spend was for an upgraded video card for a small form factor desktop (which I got for free) with no monitor. So I needed to get a monitor. All i'm saying is it sucks you would need to spend a LOT of money on a laptop that can run EVE now. 
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Manji Lee
Gallente
Galactic Express
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.02.15 01:18:00 -
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I'm not much of a person that would upgrade a rig on a regular basis. Matter of fact I recently upgraded my computer about some 5 months ago. And that is after having it over 5 years. Around that time, power unit and the motherboard starting to cough up. Everything else was running just fine. But, after some 300 down. It was running far cry 2 on max at 40 fps. Anyway, it wasn't surprising to me, to hear about the drop of sm1. It was kinda expected to happen. You can't really keep same old engine running forever.
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob
Just purchased a video card and a monitor as my laptop will soon not be able to run eve anymore. That means not going over to my friends house and being able to play. Also many people will not get to see the game so I will not be able to recruit more people into it as easy. Everytime I go somewhere with my laptop people ask me. "Whats that your playing." Most people have no idea about EvE. Anyway.. wish I didn't have to spend half my tax return to keep playing. At least it will look nice now.
A cheap (but reasonable) 19" LCD can be bought from newegg for about $160 to $180. Since you obviously already have a computer (since you're adding a videocard and not building a whole system), I'm going to presume you already had a monitor, too. Either way, that's not really attributable to EVE as an EVE-related expense.
So you probably spent $200 on a monitor and $100 on a card. A $40 card would have sufficed and a $100 card (unless you bought something way over the price it should be valued at) should last you quite a long time with EVE and give you far more than just the minimal performance.
I understand that not everyone has the same priorities or resources that I do and that building high end rigs every year to stay on top of things is something few people actually do, but some people are on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Having to upgrade a videocard is hardly a significant expense or ridiculous expectation. If you really want to get a lot out of a great game coming out in 2010, there's a great chance you'll need to upgrade your video card. That's just life.
And sorry if I don't feel too bad for anyone spending half their tax return on a videogame. Many of us won't get a return or will get much less than others do, because we are not considered important enough as a voting block to be included. So we get to subsidize the $400 and $800 rebates from the government to placate the mobs (and that's on top of subsidizing people for breeding via their child tax credits).
Don't get me wrong. I know that I make a great living and as such it is reasonable that I pay more taxes than someone who can barely afford to feed themselves, but I have a little bit of a problem subsidizing political kung-fu (to placate voters) for people who are not poor. People who make as much as $75,000 and will spend the money on a flat screen or car payments or a videogame. So... Yeah. I don't feel bad for you or anyone else on that front.
Seriously though, the amount you spent where EVE is concerned is far less than you represented it as.
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob
The 300 I had to spend was for an upgraded video card for a small form factor desktop (which I got for free) with no monitor. So I needed to get a monitor. All i'm saying is it sucks you would need to spend a LOT of money on a laptop that can run EVE now.
No you wouldn't. I'm pretty sure there are laptops around $600 brand new that would run EVE and there are definitely laptops under $1,000 that would do it. That's cheap for laptops and it's the price you have to pay anyway if you insist on gaming on a laptop. Or do you really think that developers should always have to target their requirements for the laptop crowd so we can all rock like it was 2002 and we hadn't all seen Britney's bloody crotch-shot already?
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/02/2009 02:22:43
I think the most cheapist out of date card or computer that you can buy today supports shader 2, and thus can run the next version. Even a year ago, budget laptops supported shader 4 so it should not be that hard.
Without it, I think there is a emulator for some ancient cards. Dunno if they work though.
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/02/2009 02:22:43
I think the most cheapist out of date card or computer that you can buy today supports shader 2, and thus can run the next version. Even a year ago, budget laptops supported shader 4 so it should not be that hard.
Without it, I think there is a emulator for some ancient cards. Dunno if they work though.
And a $30-40 card today will actually support at least SM3, ensuring they'll run even if CCP were to remove support for SM1/2 like they wisely first chose to do (before bailing on the idea from the whineage).
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